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HAPPY NEW YEAR

Dear Wieralee HAPPY NEW YEAR, and I wish you all the best )))---6AND5 (talk) 10:22, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

• @6AND5: Happy New Year to you too. It's very kind of you, thanks a lot :-) Wieralee (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Różanka - zdjęcia z folwarku

Witaj:-) Dzięki za zmiany nazw i cenne uwagi :). W pliku File:Różanka, oficyna parterowa, XIX w..JPG inną nazwę zaproponowałam. Himiltruda (talk) 14:34, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Problem z nadaniem licencji

Witaj, mam następujący problem, otóż jaką licencję na rozpowszechnianie mogę umieścić przy zdjęciach wykonanych po 1997 roku dot. „Sekcji Spadochronowej Aeroklubu Gliwickiego“. Zdjęcia, chcę umieścić tu [1] i znajdują się w posiadaniu sekcji lub członków byłych czy obecnych. Zdjęciom starszym niż 1997 rok, nadawałem licencję {{PD-Polish}}, z obecnie wykonanymi też nie ma problemu (załatwiam zgodę bezpośrednio u autora zgodnie z procedurami), a pomiędzy tymi okresami mam problem, bo nie mogę znaleźć właściwej licencji wymienionej w instrukcji. Pozdrawiam Wlodek k1 (talk) 11:35, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Wlodek k1: wydaje mi się, że tak samo, jak ze zdjęciami współczesnymi, ale nie jestem ekspertem... Poprosimy może bardziej kompetentną osobę :-) @Ankry: bardzo proszę, mógłbyś nam pomóc i odpowiedzieć na to pytanie? Wieralee (talk) 12:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

• Jeśli osobą zamieszczjącą zdjęcie nie jest autor, potrzebna jest zgoda autora przesłana do OTRS. I zamieścić z taką licencją, na jaką autor wyrazi zgodę. I w zasadzie (co nie jest wyraźnie zaznaczone w szablonie) taka zgoda jest wymagana dla *wszystkich* zdjęć niepublikowanych lub opublikowanych 1.03.1989 lub później (w zasadzie wszystkie zdjęcia publikowane po tej dacie są w USA (C) 70 lat od śmierci autora lub 95 lat od publikacji, jeśli anonimowe; niezależnie od ich statusu prawnego w Polsce). Zwracam uwagę, że korzystając z powyższego szablonu należy wskazać datę i miejsce publikacji zdjęcia. Ankry (talk) 22:23, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Wlodek 1: więc tak, jak myślałam: jeśli uzyskasz zgodę na C-C-3.0 lub C-C-4.0, to taka licencja np. {{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}} + OTRS. Pozdrawiam, Wieralee (talk) 22:31, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

== File:Menagarai por Amann (cropped).jpg == {{Autotranslate|1=File:Menagarai por Amann (cropped).jpg|base=Copyvionote}} LMLM (talk) 22:01, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

• @LMLM: it is not "my file". I've only cropped it. If the source file is Copyvio, that one, cropped (derivatived) file is Copyvio too... Wieralee (talk) 12:27, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. It was an automatic message. LMLM (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

A masz kotka!

Też jestem na Commons! Pozdrawiam z okolic Halibutta.

Paterm (talk) 09:53, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Ethel Bartlett & Rae Robertson

Hi, you just renamed a file with the wrong surname. The pianist's name is Rae Robertson. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 12:39, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Hi, I've got the name from the description. Thanks for alertness :-) Wieralee (talk) 13:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Move from Former factories in Hannover

Hi Wieralee, you moved several categories with comment Moving from Category:Former factories in Hannover to Category:Former factories in Melle / Wiehengebirge - probably a mistake ?? Please revert it by yourself. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 06:26, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Gerd Fahrenhorst: I've moved them, because they were in a redirected category Category:Former factories in Hannover. The redirected categories should be empty, because nobody can see its containment. So I've moved their contaiment after User:Dirk-Franz move. It's not a problem, I can move them back, but only in a situation when the upper category will exist -- I can't move them back to a redirection. Wieralee (talk) 07:02, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I undid Dirk-Franz's changes after contacting him and he told me it was a mistake, and I undid your move. So no further action is required. -- Gerd Fahrenhorst (talk) 11:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

"of" versus "in"

Please realise that not every vehicle IN (location) a certain place/country is a vehicle OF (registration) that place/country. Better revert the move of the category Police boats IN Finland. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:42, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Stunteltje: it wasn't my idea: look here and talk to an admin who had managed this movement. I'm only cleaning redirected categories. Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 20:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. Didn't realise that. I'll contact user:Butko. RIC --Stunteltje (talk) 20:54, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for this - normally the tag gets removed automatically. I didn't spot that it hadn't :-) Optimist on the run (talk) 19:09, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Optimist on the run: You're welcome :-) You can check Category:Redundant media renaming requests after renaming, sometimes the Commons Delinker got errors. Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 19:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Baranya location map svg.svg

Please do not put this map in the Category of Location maps. I am the creator, this map is not correct, should be deleted. Ther are a better really locataion map of Baranya county! --Texaner (talk) 22:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Texaner: No problem, you can roll it back. Greetings from Wieralee :-) (talk) 22:06, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Украинские 100 000 карбованцев. Аверс. 1994.jpg

Hi! You declined renaming of File:Украинские 100 000 карбованцев. Аверс. 1994.jpg. I requested renaming of it not because its name is in russian, but because it doesn't fit the name of all serie of notes (4th criteria). The same is abot other files with russian titles. --Tohaomg (talk) 12:40, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Tohaomg: It is not mine decision. We have file renaming rules and we must keep them. It is forbidden to change the language, I'm sorry. Only the uploader can ask for this. Wieralee (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

File:Szökőkút olaszországban.jpg

Sorry, I marked wrong reason, please move the filename. "Olaszországban" means "in Italy", and in Hungarian language big O is correct use, too. Excuse me for my poor English. --Regasterios (talk) 12:44, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Regasterios: it doesn't depend on the reason: the new name can't be the same (exept the capitalization). Wieralee (talk) 14:53, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I understand. I asked a new moving. --Regasterios (talk) 16:02, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Renaming of file

Hello, the request to rename the file File:בית המכס הישן בנמל יפו.JPG is NOT because it is in hebrew but because it is incorrect. the name בית המכס means "Customs House", and this is NOT the Customs House. (see he:בית המכס בנמל יפו) It's another building. Djampa (talk) 09:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Djampa: ok, ask for another name => but do not change the language. Such a change can make only uploaders, for other persons it is forbidden. Wieralee (talk) 09:45, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
  • סליחה אני לא יודע Djampa (talk) 08:05, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Jak zrobić, aby zdjęcia kategoryzować latami

Witaj, może przypadkiem masz taką wiedzę. Mianowicie mam następujący problem, otóż w kategorii https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sekcja_Spadochronowa_Aeroklubu_Gliwickiego , chciałbym zdjęcia posegregować latami, tak jak jest np. to tu: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:1992_in_aviation_in_Poland . Może to być również nowa podkategoria, kombinuję na różne sposoby, ale nie potrafię sobie poradzić z problemem :-( Pozdrawiam Wlodek k1 (talk) 09:51, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Wlodek k1: nigdy tego nie robiłam, ale chyba się udało... Zobacz Category:Sekcja Spadochronowa Aeroklubu Gliwickiego by year. Jak coś, eksperymentuj na tym do woli ;-) Wieralee (talk) 10:42, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• Wieralee jesteś WIELKA !!! :-) Wlodek k1 (talk) 12:47, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Cristina Nobrega, 2014.jpg

Hello Wieralee, can you delete all the exif data in [[File:Cristina Nobrega, 2014.jpg|20px]] this file please. thanks. Monart (talk) 20:30, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Monart: I haven't got such possibility. You can try to clean it at your computer, and re-load this file again using a link [2], but I do not know if it will work -- and I do not know if it is safe (copyrights). Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 20:49, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	thanks for your steady file moving! Purzelbier (talk) 09:12, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi! Thanks for this editions!I removed my previous marking to rename this file for believe he would eventually deleted by Spam, because another user told me he needed of this file. But you renamed the image and has removed the spam without deleted it! Greeetings ;-)!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leon saudanha (talk • contribs) 21:58, 07 February 2016 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Prof TPMS (talk) 08:41, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

File:A starving child during the Famine of 1921-22 in Ukraine.jpg

Niby czemu split? Poprzedni fotos jest marnej jakości (poza twarzą chłopca nie widoczne są cegły piecu), za to widać moiré rastrowy. Zachowanie takiego obrazu nie ma sensu. Pozdrawiam, Bogomolov.PL (talk) 19:12, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Bogomolov.PL: tak, masz rację. Miałam wrażenie, że na dolne zdjęcie zawiera więcej otoczenia, a nie lubię, kiedy coś "mi" ze zdjęcia ginie. Dzięki :-) Wieralee (talk) 19:18, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Delete

Xahiş edirəm - File:Araz.pdf --Araz Yaquboglu (talk) 15:28, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

File:Mercedes 540K Spezial Roadster.jpg

Thank you for removing this file to File:Mercedes 540K Spezial Cabriolet.jpg. I would pleased, if you could delete now the wrong file of the Mercedes 540K Spezial Roadster and replace in the comment Roadster by the word Cabriolet.--Hoss (talk) 16:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Hoss: I don't understand. It seems to be ok? look here Wieralee (talk) 17:46, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

• • Hello Wieralee, my mistake was to upload a Mercedes 540K Spezial Cabriolet with the wrong name Mercedes 540K Spezial Roadster. Another mistake is now to redirect from Mercedes 540K Spezial Roadster to the Mercedes 540K Spezial Cabriolet, because the Roadster is not a Cabriolet. Please delete this redirection file. Thanks --Hoss (talk) 18:30, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Hoss:  Done It's dvery ifficult to remove sth without the redirection, but it succeeded :-) Greetings from Wieralee (talk) 20:57, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Вопрос

Здраствуйте уважаемая Wieralee, извините, а где смотрят «заявки» для переименования категории, а не фотографии [3].--6AND5 (talk) 20:51, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

• @6AND5: the template is:
  

{{Move|new name of the category|verbal explanation|date (yyyy-mm-dd)|User=our login}}

for example: {{Move|1800 in Russia|to harmonize with the upper category in a set of categories|2016-02-17|user=6AND5}}

You should put the template inside the category and wait at least 14 days for discussion. After that time - if there's no opposes or there is a consensus in discussion, you can move a category.

When the category name is obviously wrong, for example it is in Russian, not in English (the files can have names in all languages, but the categories should be in English only), you can move it without discussion, using Ещё => переименовать, but it is not save, it needs a lot of experience to do it properly. It is safer to use the page User:CommonsDelinker/commands

Read the instruction page Category:Requested moves and Переименование категории. Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 21:16, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks, but You probably have not correctly understood or I'm probably not correctly asked a question. Например Вы здесь поменяли категорию [4]. А где Вы увидели, что надо поменять эту категорию, то есть на какой странице посмотрели, что увидели, что надо поменять эту категорию? --6AND5 (talk) 21:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
• Извините, более понятно скажу, где можно посмотреть список → Category redirect--6AND5 (talk) 21:38, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
• Вот наверно нашел, надо наверно здесь смотреть [5], спасибо--6AND5 (talk) 21:45, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
• @6AND5: конечно ;-) Wieralee (talk) 22:18, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Erratums in renames

Hi, you just renamed a couple file with different way how I wished (what can be ok), but you change the text 'Monument sign' (this is a category 'Signs of cultural heritage monuments') to 'Memorial plague' which is not pass to those (File:Memorial plague. Commercial building (No.7), Kiev Pechersk Lavra.jpg, File:Memorial plague. Kovnir's building, Kiev Pechersk Lavra.jpg‎, File:Memorial plague. Metropolitical building, Kiev Pechersk Lavra.jpg).

Maybe you want to write 'plaque'?

BTW. Thanks a lot for filmovers. Best regards - - Globetrotter19 (talk) 15:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Globetrotter19: yes, you're right. Typos have got its own sence of humour ;-) Thanks a lot. Wieralee (talk) 15:41, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Daewoo

Hi Wieralee, Thanks for moving 2 cats - Could I ask tho how you came across it ?, It's just I did put here Category:Daewoo_Lublin_3 not for anyone to move any and was surprised to see they were moved (Not complaining as helps better than nothing :), Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:21, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Davey2010: I didn't move any cat from Category:Daewoo_Lublin_3 -- as you asked, but didn't leave a message in subcategories. I was visiting them first ;-) There is a list with redirected categories which are not empty, so its a while :-) Wieralee (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Ooooh you renamed the category riiiiight , Sorry I thought you moved them, Oh well thanks for amending the subcategory for me :) –Davey2010^Talk 18:50, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Moving from Category:Files from the Asamblea Nacional del Ecuador Flickr stream (check needed) and Category:Files from the Asamblea Nacional del Ecuador Flickr stream

Please do not manually move categories when a bot is already in progress of moving them. You caused an edit conflict with my bot multiple times, preventing it from continuing it's task. Even if you weren't aware a bot was moving them, you should realize that if you're moving more than 750+ files, it's likely the job for a bot anyways. By moving it by hand, you missed the double category that the bot was automatically removing[6]. Thanks for trying to help though, it's appreciated. Riley Huntley (talk) 17:06, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

• @Riley Huntley: this category has got over 56000 files -- and I hadn't even tried to move any single file. The bot had finished his work -- for a longer period of time nothing happened in this category. I thought that there was a bot error, and a bot should not finish his work, it happens quite often. I wasn't aware that in the same time Fae was uploading new files to the redrected category... that is why it wasn't empty after the bot's work. Wieralee (talk) 17:37, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

• The moved category indeed has over 56000 files, the old categories should have only been at 1,000 or 2,000 remaining to be moved. The bot had certainly not finished it's work, my log shows that it had several edit conflicts with you; the timestamps of the log matching the timestamps of your edits. In any case, if you believed my bot stopped, a request should have been made for it to continue or have CommonsDelinker resume. Now I have to rerun my bot to remove the duplicates that would have been removed if done properly the first time. Riley Huntley (talk) 22:04, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Rename template proposal

Please see the proposal: Template talk:Rename#Change userlink template. --sasha (krassotkin) 09:43, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Dzięki za uwagi (nazewnictwo plików)

Ale pozwolę sobie się z nimi nie zgodzić: tzw. "nazwa opisowa" jest bez sensu: 1. I tak nikt nie szuka zdjęć jedynie po nazwach (a jeżeli szuka to znajduje głównie śmieci), ponadto tysiąc plików o nazwie "portal północny w katedrze" nic nikomu nie mówi. 2. Niewielu osobom powie cokolwiek nazwa polska typu "siódma_cegła_nad_piątym_łukiem_w_katedrze_notre_dame_w_reims", a potworków jezykowych w rodzaju znanego "voivodeship" tworzyć nie zamierzam - i tak po takiej nazwie nikt niczego nigdy nie odszuka. Przy okazji: w takich "opisowych" nazwach zazwyczaj jedyne użyteczne i najważniejsze przy wyszukiwaniu informacje (oiekt, miejscowość) są na końcu - wyszukiwarka więc tego nie zauważa. 3. Wszystkie pliki umieszczam w kategoriach wystarczająco wąskich do określenia przedmiotu zdjęcia (najwęższych jakie znajdę) - do tego kategorie właśnie służą.

W związku z powyższym nazw opisowych nie stosuję (nigdy), natomiast zawsze podaję w nazwie numer katalogowy mojego archiwum, co jednoznacznie identyfikuje zdjęcie (oczywiście jednoznacznie dla mnie) - wiele osób przysyła mi prośby o zdjęcia i numer ten umożliwia ich odszukanie i przesłanie właściwego w wersji bezstratnej (np. png na wiki przesyłam jpg, zazwyczaj mniejsze od największego z posiadanych, png jest zbyt duży - niektóre mają ponad 100 MB - więcej niż maks. dopuszczalne dla wiki).

(ps. Moje archiwum to już grubo ponad 100 000 zdjęć).

Niemniej to tylko moje uwagi, nie zaś mądrość objawiona. Pozdrawiam,--SteN (talk) 18:55, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Roweromaniak: z tego, co wiem, limit 100 MB jest już zniesiony, trzeba tylko zaznaczyć odpowiednią opcję w Preferencjach. Ostatnio przesyłałam już większe pliki. Co do ilości: ja też robię dużo zdjęć ;-) Co do nazewnictwa -- być może masz rację, co i tak niczego nie zmienia... Wytyczne są, jakie są. Chciałam tylko uświadomić Roweromaniakowi, że 1) któregoś dnia ktoś może rozpocząć pracę nad jego plikami - i legalnie zmienić wszystkie nazwy 2) przenoszący pliki mogą odrzucać jego prośby o zmianę nazwy, gdyż nie są one całkiem zgodne z zasadami. Chciałam pogłębić jego zrozumienie projektu, a nie zmuszać go do czegokolwiek. Wieralee (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Widzę, że specjalnie zmieniasz wyświetlaną nazwę użytkownika. Nie będę już zmieniać mojej wypowiedzi, kieruję ją Ciebie, niezależnie od używanych przez Ciebie imion ;-) Wieralee (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Roweromaniak: jeszcze jedna rzecz mi przyszła do głowy... jeśli chcesz zmienić nazwę użytkownika, możesz się zwrócić do stewardów. Po zmianie wszystkie Twoje wcześniejsze uploady i edycje będą podpisane nowym imieniem. Wieralee (talk) 23:15, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Nie rozumiem...

Dzięki za uwagę o podpisie - nie mam zamiaru zmieniać ani nicka ani nazwy. Nie wiem, skąd wziął się mój podpis SteN (moje inicjały) - pewnie to jakaś zaszłość historyczna. Na wiki byłem i jestem roweromaniakiem, tak jak na wszystkich stronach, gdzie piszę (i gdzie ten nick był wolny). Sprawdzę - może na którymś z "zagranicznych" kont mam inicjały SteN. Był - w moich preferencjach - widać pamięć mam już nie taką, jak mi się wydaje... Pozdrawiam, --roweromaniak (SteN) (talk) 19:39, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

ps. Choćbym chciał stosować nazwy opisowe (a nie chcę), jet to niewykonalne: nie mogę mieć plików pod innymi nazwami u siebie, innymi na wiki, innymi na fejsie, innymi na swoich stronach - nikt nad tym nie zapanuje. Mam jedynie nadzieję że nikt "legalnie nazw nie zmieni" - dla mnie oznacza to niemożność szybkiego dotarcia do swoich zdjęć na wiki.--roweromaniak (SteN) (talk) 19:39, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Foka szara mateusz wlodarczyk.jpg

Cześć. Problemem nie był język polski, ale nieaktualna nazwa wernakularna zwierzęcia. Jedynie przy okazji zaproponowałem zmianę na nazwę naukową. W takich sytuacjach raczej dobrze dopytać o co chodziło zgłaszającemu. Jacek555 (talk) 22:11, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Jacek555: to nie ma znaczenia, jeżeli nowa nazwa łamie zasady zawarte na stronie Commons:File renaming. Nie należy zmieniać języka. O taką zmianę może poprosić tylko uploader. Jeśli ktoś chce powiększać zasoby Commons w języku polskim, nie można mu tego psuć. Jeśli zaś chodzi o preferencje odnośnie nazwy zwierzęcia po łacinie, to oczywiście masz rację. Ale reszta nazwy powinna pozostać polska. Takie są wytyczne, które obowiązują wszystkich przenoszących pliki. Działając wbrew wytycznym przenoszący pliki ryzykuje utratą uprawnień. Możesz zaproponować nową nazwę, ale nie po angielsku. Pozdrawiam, Wieralee (talk) 22:18, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

P.S. Z tego, co wiem, autor zdjęcia (autor, a nie uploader) ma prawo zawrzeć swoje imię i nazwisko w nazwie pliku. Wieralee (talk) 22:19, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

File:2ScannedImage.jpg

Hi! Please, send a warning to User:Joe3. He is always removing the template npd. Thanks. --Regasterios (talk) 12:26, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Regasterios:  Done. Thanks :-) Wieralee (talk) 14:42, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I thank you. :) Regasterios (talk) 16:29, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Guttau/Hućina

Hello. Could you please explain this edit to me. The place has two official names in two languages and the category "Districts of Malschwitz" was also right. What are you talking about? Regards, j.budissin^+/- 15:16, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• @J budissin: slash "/" causes errors on many internet sites, so we do not use it in category names. Choose another character, please. Wieralee (talk) 15:33, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

??? There are dozens of categories with slash, where it's appropriate to do so. What about Category:Biel/Bienne? --j.budissin^+/- 15:53, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• @J budissin: the fact that such a category exists, does not rule out the fact that its use causes a lot of mistakes on many websites. You can read the history of avoiding slashes in names of Commons. If you would like, you can always rollback my editions. But the problem will still exist... Wieralee (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

I wanted at least to talk to you before. My problem is, that there is no other appropriate character for combining the names. --j.budissin^+/- 19:42, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• @J budissin: I've found something like this for bilingual names: Category talk:Álava-Araba, Category:Álava-Araba. Maybe it can work more properly? The decision is yours ;-) Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 20:19, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

The problem is, that we have some places, which have a double name anyway, like Category:Panschwitz-Kuckau, which would be Category:Panschwitz-Kuckau-Pančicy-Kukow then. --j.budissin^+/- 21:25, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• @J budissin: generally the category names should be in English. The files can have names in all languages, but category => in English only. So it should have the name used on English wiki.

Mostly people don't have problems with this rule. For example: I'm from Poland. Our capital city name is "Warszawa" in Polish. But in English it is "Warsaw". So the main category for our capital city name is Category:Warsaw. And we don't have any problems with this name, we understand the need for unificaton rules.

Inside the category you can place descriptions using language switches, for example {{pl|Warszawa - stolica Polski}} {{en|Warsaw - the capital city of Poland}} {{de|Warschau - polnischen Hauptstadt}}. Our browser will find all... Wieralee (talk) 23:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Those places don't have names in English, only in German and Sorbian. There is no reason to use the German name only in an international project, since both are official. --j.budissin^+/- 09:33, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

• @J budissin: I see en:w:Guttau... Wieralee (talk) 09:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Which is only the German name, one of two official names. --j.budissin^+/- 11:57, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Coins filenames

Hi!

Today you declined 3 rename request (:File:150 рублей 1990 реверс.PNG, File:3 рубля 1990 реверс.PNG and :File:150 рублей 1990 реверс.PNG). As you correctly stated, files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not English.

But in this case the files was named wrong: all 3 of them has "реверс" (reverse) in it's name although the obverse of the coin was shown. Sure it is possible to rename it to the correct cyrillic name (something like "File:150 рублей 1990 аверс.PNG") but if we want to harmonize the file names at the same time, it also makes sense to rename it like it is used in Category:Gold coins of the USSR or Category:Platinum coins of the Soviet Union.

Could you please have a look at it again? --DR (talk) 12:47, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

• @DR: we all have to respect the Commons language policy. When the uploader wants his files to be named in his native language -- we have to respect it -- and we can't change it. I know, there was an error, but you should fix it in original uploader's language. An error in name is not a base for translation...

Harmonization is a good reason when the files are used all together in the international templates. Look at the rules, please: "To harmonize the file names of a set of images (so that only one part of all names differs). Just because images share a category or a subject does not mean that they are part of a set."

Files on Commons are being renamed within a few minutes usually. When the file stays a few hours or longer and each renamer is not touching it -- there is always a reason. When the request is consistent with the principles (read the Commons:File renaming site), rename is very quick. Wieralee (talk) 13:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation and for the quick renaming. --DR (talk) 13:20, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

File:United States household income 2005.gif

My apology but in renaming File:United States household income 2005.gif I used the date from the image, which is incorrect. I am doing svg versions of these years and the chart matches 2004, not 2005. A note can be added that the chart is labeled incorrectly. The data comes out in March of the following year and the same problem existed with File:Distribution of Annual Household Income in the United States 2011.png which was labeled "2012 estimate" but what it meant is "2012 estimate of 2011 income distribution". Delphi234 (talk) 21:54, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Delphi234: put a large explanation into the description of this photo, please. It is not clear and visible -- maybe I really shouldn't rename this image... Wieralee (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
• @Delphi234: can you link a source for this? Wieralee (talk) 22:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
  •  Done Delphi234 (talk) 22:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

File:United States household income 2004.gif

Sorry - but I don't understand it. Why you have renamed this image? A look ON THE IMAGE shows very clear, that 2005 is correct (and if not, the whole image should be deleted). A renaming is in my opinion the worst of all possibilities. Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:04, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

You will see as soon as I upload the svg for it. I have done several years and will soon finish the whole set of about 20 of them and may upload them all at once. It is a near exact match of the 2004 data and not even close to the 2005 or 2006 data. Delphi234 (talk) 22:11, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Marcus Cyron: thanks for your suggestions. The description is fixed -- and is linked to a source data. Do you think it is enough? Or maybe Delphi234 should write more? What is your opinion? What shall we do? Wieralee (talk) 22:35, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Fine! :) Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

If someone has nothing to do they can upload a gif that has the correct label but in a few minutes this file is going to be marked as svg replacement available. It is not being used anywhere anyway. Delphi234 (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Cities and villages

@Wieralee: About this editWhere are the towns then? en.wiki is following that way, then commons is using different way?--Vin09 (talk) 08:45, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

How can we differentiate between city, town, and a village then?--Vin09 (talk) 08:45, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Vin09: it is a method that has been developed by the Commons community.

If you would like to move such a large and widely used category, which is a part of a larger set of categories, you should put a {{move}} template inside and wait at least 14 days for discussion. Only if there will be no opposition, you can move it. For examples look at the Category:Requested moves (all).

When anyone doesn't like the current system, he can always start a community discussion (look at Commons:Categories for discussion). Wieralee (talk) 12:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The Georgetown University

I have never heard Georgetown University referred to as "The Georgetown University." Why did you change these categories to use the indefinite article?-- Patrick, _oѺ^∞ 11:59, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Patrickneil: the mother-category Category:Georgetown University people has been moved by another user see here and the files and subcategories were left in a redirected category. Files and subcategories can't stay in a such category, because the content of redirected categories is hidden. So I'm only cleaning them. If you would like to know the reason for this movement, contact with user NeverDoING, please. Wieralee (talk) 13:14, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
  • Yes, sorry if I came off too aggressive. I tagged these categories with bad name, since the change was made incorrectly. If you're able, maybe you could help me put these files back?-- Patrick, _oѺ^∞ 17:01, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Move

I accidently move Category:Huntshaw to Category:Sockpuppets of Crouh as I was trying to see what the message is when you try to move a full protected page (Category:Sockpuppets of Russavia) but I accidently forgot to change the old name option in the form when I used another page to access the move form, this wasn't a proper "test action" as the page I was experimenting on was fully protected. The page should be moved back to its old title so the speedy tag should be reinstated. I'm really sorry for this silly mess I have created. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Crouch, Swale: yes, I know that it would be better to move it back, but I do not have such rights. So I fixed that in another way. Do not worry about me. If you don't like any of my edition, no problem, roll it back. Wieralee (talk) 15:10, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, done (reverted) once again apologies for my silly error. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:13, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

File:Milan wetzel.jpg

Hi, Wieralee, I was wondering if you could take a look at this image. The description is in Dutch and it looks like someone is asking for money In short, I do not like what I read there, furthermore the image is of low quality. If it would be me, I would delete it. On the Dutch wikipedia, an article was deleted too. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

• @Lotje:  Done. Thanks a lot. Wieralee (talk) 14:50, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Histoire artistique des ordres mendiants

Dobre,

I see that you deleted the category Histoire artistique des ordres mendiants. I don't know Commons very well, but I want to collect all the pictures from this book in a single category (all these pictures come from the same book !). I must say that I did'nt understand your modifications. Can you please show me the place in Common where I can gather these files.

--Hildepont (talk) 11:15, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Hildepont: I didn't delete anything. You have created a redirected category {{category redirect|Books in French}}. It means: "Please, move these files to a redirected category". So I had moved them to the "Books in French" category -- according to your request.

If you would like to create a new category, it can not have a redirection inside.

I had fixed them.

I hope it's all right now. Wieralee (talk) 11:51, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, it's now perfect for me. Thank you a lot for your help — and sorry for my inexperience ;) --Hildepont (talk) 21:43, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Posición T-4

Hi! The thing is that Posición T-4 is one of a group, numbered T-1 to T-5. They were part of the XYZ Line, also known as Matallana Line, a fortification system built during the Spanish Civil War. They formed the Viver sector. They don't have another name that I know. My mistake was to order automatic renumbering when uploading. The double jpg is because I added the correct numbers after the original jpg when trying to fix the first mistake. The most important think to make photos usefull is to name them after Posición T-4. By the way, while Posición T-5 is in quite good shape, T-4 has been almost completely demolished so these pictures are important. 19Tarrestnom65 (talk) 16:05, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

file renaming

Hello. Why [7]? There is a grammatical error. If you write "Tomba (tomba means grave) Gian_Battista_Castagnola" without "di" (di means of) is like writing "Grave John Smith" not "Grave of John Smith". Regards--Pierpao.lo (listening) 17:51, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Pierpao: from what I know the file names do not have to be full grammatical sentences, they can also be equivalents sentences or infinitives... But I have not renamed it manually => I was accepting this rename request [8]. Looks like a MW error => there was a long lag... I have not seen your edition :( It happens sometimes :( Wieralee (talk) 18:21, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a lot--Pierpao.lo (listening) 18:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:RCE-subject#default category

Hi Wieralee,

Directly adding the RCE-subject categories has quite some impact. I have reverted your edit and opened a discussion on the talk page to look for the best solution as I believe there are some issues with directly adding those categories. I would welcome your opinion in the matter. Basvb (talk) 09:37, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

• I've answered there. Thanks :-) Wieralee (talk) 10:50, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
• @Basvb: by the way: maybe you have got an idea how to empty the Category:Commons policies/ko? Thanks in advance, Wieralee (talk) 11:00, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Year

I've not requested for year in name. It is not necessary at File:Garuda_statue_at_Alipiri,_2012.jpg.--Vin09 (talk) 05:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Vin09: look at the rename template. You see: "It has been suggested by ..... that this media object be renamed to "File:.......jpg" or another more suitable name for the following reason:", etc. It means, that a filemover can change the requested name for more suitable one. I think the year is necessary here, because it is an old photo. After 4 years the landscape is always another... Is is more precise. We should describe photos as descriptive as possible in a few words. Why don't you like it? Wieralee (talk) 07:58, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks for the info.--Vin09 (talk) 08:03, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

 Thank you. for your Moves in Category:Book of Hours 1984 --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 13:36, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Long promotional filenames uploaded by Viktor O. Ledenyov

Thanks for renaming those files, eg [9].

I suggest that the redirect (eg [10] should also be deleted, for the same reason (blatant commercial promotion). Mitch Ames (talk) 13:56, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Mitch Ames:  Done. Thanks for the message. Have a nice day :-) Wieralee (talk) 07:56, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

My post was supposed to say "redirects" (plural), to include: [11][12][13][14][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22]. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Mitch Ames:  Done. Thanks :-) Wieralee (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:01, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:Velaga Venkatappaiah

The page named Category:Velaga Venkatappaiah was deleted on notability guidelines at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Velaga Venkatappaiah and also per Commons:Category scheme People#Categories for specific persons. could you check it.--Vin09 (talk) 04:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Vin09: the article Velaga Venkatappaiah on English Wikipaedia was deleted for "no-encyclopaedic person" reason. It means, that this person is too little known, and the achievements of this person are too small to be listed in the encyclopaedia. There are no encyclopaedic sources => this person is not mentioned in anthologies, dictionaries, yearbooks, other encyclopedias or other books issued by the serious and scientific publishing houses. A few articles in local or internet newspapers is not enough...  :(

You can create the article again, when you will find a few serious sources. Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 08:11, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

So, the images can stay or need to be deleted?--Vin09 (talk) 08:17, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Vin09: They can stay, I think => if the copyrights (licenses) are ok. Wieralee (talk) 08:20, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
• We will wait... Do not worry. Wieralee (talk) 08:31, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Dull images

What should be done with these dull images?

• File:Greater Guntur Skyline Main.png
• File:Greater_Guntur_Skyline.jpg
• File:Lodge center.png
• File:Annamayya park. Gunturu (entrance).JPG

--Vin09 (talk) 08:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Vin09: : you can put a {{low quality}} template inside it. Wieralee (talk) 08:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Paolo Monti images

Hi, Wieralee. I noticed that you moved some of those new Paolo Monti images to categories for things in Italy. You might not have noticed, but not all of those images are of things in Italy. For example, this file shows Spain, not Italy. If you were thinking of moving any more, please look more closely to be sure what location is actually shown in the image. If you did the moves from category redirects that went to "in Italy" categories, be aware that many of the category redirects were set up to redirect to categories with "in Italy" or "of Italy" in the name, even though not all of the photos are in Italy. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:16, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Auntof6: I'm not categorising these files... I'm only emptying redirected categories according to Federico Leva's redirects => [23]. Federico had promised that he will check all the categories on any photo from BEIC mass-upload. We'll see... Wieralee (talk) 07:54, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, please don't do any more of them unless you verify them, because the redirects are wrong (not your fault, I know), and because many of the categories are wrong even in Italian. (For example, I found several of the categories with Italian names that indicated things that weren't in the images.) Even if Federico is planning to check them, it's better not to let them get into wrong categories at all. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:51, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:Bammental train station

Możesz mi wyjaśnić dlaczego przeniosłaś pliki do innej kategorii?

“	Category names should generally be in English, excepting some of proper names, biological taxa and terms which don't have an exact English equivalent. See Commons:Categories for the exact policy.	”
—Commons:Language policy

“	Category names should generally be in English (...). However, there are exceptions such as some proper names, biological taxa and names for which the non-English name is most commonly used in the English language (...).	”
—Commons:Categories

Zwiadowca ²¹ 23:47, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Zwiadowca21: pod adresem Category:Bammental train station nie ma kategorii właściwej, jest tylko przeniesienie. Zgodnie z zasadami Commons nie powinny tam zalegać pliki, gdyż nie są one widoczne dla zwykłego użytkownika.
  

“	Ta kategoria została przeniesiona do Category:Haltepunkt Bammental Uwaga: Ta kategoria powinna być pusta. Wszystkie pliki powinny zostać przeniesione do poprawnej kategorii.	”

Zazwyczaj te przeniesienia robi bot, w wielu jednak sytuacjach bot się na niektórych kategoriach zawiesza => i wtedy przeniesienia trzeba robić ręcznie.

Nie wiem, dlaczego User:Nenntmichruhigip scalił kategorie w ten, a nie inny sposób. Podejrzewam, że -- jak wszyscy Francuzi i Niemcy -- będzie się pewnie upierać, że jest to nazwa własna, owo nieszczęsne "proper name". Chyba wszystkie ich kategorie są rozwiązane w ten sposób => zobacz kategorię nadrzędną Category:Train stations in Rhein-Neckar-Kreis, z którą kategorie podrzędne powinny być zgodne... Zgadzam się z Twoją sugestią, że byłoby lepiej, żeby Niemcy i Francuzi używali do tego przetłumaczonych nazw kategorii, ale -- z mojego doświadczenia -- nikt nie jest w stanie tego na nich wyegzekwować :( Możesz spróbować, ja już nie mam na to siły.

Pozdrawiam, miłego dnia :-) Wieralee (talk) 09:17, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Verschieben und Korrigieren meiner Kategorien

Hallo Wieralee, Ich wollte nur DANKE sagen für das Verschieben und Korrigieren meiner Kategorien--Vielen Dank und Grüße Woelle ffm (talk) 06:03, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for my banners

Thanks for my banners--Fernando.tassone (talk) 16:16, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Language policy?

Re: [24]. What is the languagy policy? Can you please elaborate on your decision to decline the rename request? Now there seems to be no other alternative than to request deletion. --Pxos (talk) 10:38, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Pxos: look here and here, please. Wieralee (talk) 10:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, so the new name should be in Finnish, then. Is that it? Will the request be carried out if I invent a new name that is in Finnish? --Pxos (talk) 11:16, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

• @Pxos: Yes, of course. Thanks for understanding :-) Wieralee (talk) 11:21, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

File Rename

I just need to know, it's okay to have a file called File:Wok cooking.jpg and File:Wok Cooking.jpg? --SimmeD (talk) 11:20, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

• @SimmeD: we have thousands of files that differ only in capitalization. This is not a problem for computers => for computer systems there are very different characters. We do not change these names unnecessary. When the file is being renamed, there is always a risk that something goes wrong and the file just disappears. We already have several dozen (or more) files, which we could not recover after renaming :( Read the above topic, too, you'll understand more. Thanks in advance! Wieralee (talk) 11:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
  • You're correct that it's no problem for computers, but for humans (that also insert the pictures) it might be. Like, the "C" and" "c" is not that different from a normal persons perspective, and might also result in an error (if the names at to much "look alike") --SimmeD (talk) 23:45, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
• @SimmeD: if you would like to help, you can rename files in this Category:Media requiring renaming without the related template. Wieralee (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
• I can't move files (since I'm not a file mover), but I can use the rename template. --SimmeD (talk) 11:52, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

File tagging File:Tulu Gowda Logo.jpg

{{Autotranslate|1=File:Tulu Gowda Logo.jpg|base=Image permission}} Steinsplitter (talk) 15:20, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Wanted categories

Hello. An administrator to check "Wanted categories" is necessary. Thank you. --Allforrous (talk) 01:24, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Allforrous: I'm an admin in another wiki project, not here. On Commons I'm a filemover only. But it doesn't matter: everyone can work with Wanted categories. You can create these categories (to create a category you can click on red link => and give one or more upper categories inside) or make a redirection to existing category ({{category redirect|name of existing category}}.)

I have looked there, but I don't see any unusual, it looks like always... Tell me, what's the problem, please. I will try to fix it. Wieralee (talk) 09:17, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

The only problem is most often keep current. For example: every four days or so. --Allforrous (talk) 11:29, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) One reason there are so many wanted categories is that many people who upload media include categories that don't exist. They might not exist because they exist under a different name, or it could be because they just haven't been created yet. (There are naming conventions that sbould be followed. For example, there is a category called Category:People of France, but sometimes someone will add a category called "French people" instead.) Another reason is that bots try to guess what the categories should be and often get them wrong. A lot of the categories in Wanted categories shouldn't be created at all, so if you decide to work on them, please be sure you understand the category structure and naming for the kind of category you want to create. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 22:39, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Mountaineer

	Millionaire's award
	Congratulations on breaking the million edits barrier! It's a long trail to get here without needing oxygen. Fæ (talk) 11:48, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Tradicional moroccian pancakes makeing in action, Essaouira, Morocco.JPG

You declined the renaming of File:Tradicional moroccian pancakes makeing in action, Essaouira, Morocco.JPG, with the reason "Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not correctly capitalized.", but it looks to me like it's also misspelled ("moroccian" instead of "Moroccan"). Could you reconsider? User:Armbrust (Local talk - en.Wikipedia talk) 11:58, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Armbrust: 1) look at Commons:File_renaming, please. Crit #2: Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not English and/or is not correctly capitalized. We have a sample name there: File:Rathaus_bremen.jpg should not be renamed on File:Bremen_town_hall.jpg. Bremen is a city in Germany...

2) it's nothing personal: You can wait a few days and put the rename template again... maybe one of less experienced renamers will rename it... but it will be not correct... A few such renamings -- and a filemover can loose his permissions :(

3) I think it can be renamed through Crit #1 At the original uploader's request. (Unless there is a compelling reason not to, uploader requests should be honored. This is a courtesy, not an absolute, however. If a file mover feels that a proposed new name is disruptive or inappropriate, they can suggest a different name or decline the request).

Thanks for sharing with me your thoughts. Wieralee (talk) 12:21, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

File:OpenOffice.org 3 indítóközpontja.jpg

Hi Wieralee, please, check this file. Is that license and summary good? I have never uploaded screenshot to Commons. --Regasterios (talk) 20:07, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Regasterios: IMO for this particular screenshot it is OK. But when the screenshot will contain a text or image pasted into OpenOffice window, the second license (for example: PD, cc-3 or cc-4) must be given. Wieralee (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for your help. --Regasterios (talk) 20:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Cellano vs Celano

Hallo Wieralee, you renaming File:Jean-Joseph-Xavier Bidauld - Vue de la ville d'Avezzano, au bord du lac de Cellano, royaume de Naples.jpg in to File:Jean-Joseph-Xavier Bidauld - Vue de la ville d'Avezzano, au bord du lac de Celano, royaume de Naples.jpg. But the source (Louvre) and the reference link (joconde) saying “Cellano”, not “Celano”. greetings Trzęsacz (talk) 21:58, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Marica Massaro: it was your request. Can you answer, please? Wieralee (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
  • @Wieralee: & @Trzęsacz: Here I am. Sorry for the delay. I see Joconde but Celano in French is Celano and not Cellano. The doubt is that it is a clerical error from the catalog of the Louvre museum how to report the source of the Abruzzo region. And Celano in french language is Celano If you need to rename Cellano will need to change the description that I had renamed in the time of the request the change of the file name. I hope I have clarified. Excuse me for the English language at the elementary level. Do you good day from Italy--Marica Massaro (talk) 15:02, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

@Marica Massaro: Thanks for the answer, if it is so, then it is so. --Trzęsacz (talk) 01:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Nymphes myrmeleon(o)ides

Thanks ! Chaoborus (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Vittore Carpaccio 079.jpg

I think your changes are fine. I had written the century first for ease of reading; a column of centuries would appear above each other. But your version is more elegant and works as well. Now, if only classical could come first with medieval second, so all would be in chronological order. Again, thank you. Henrytow (talk) 04:06, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Du erhältst einen Orden!

	Der Fleißorden
	Danke für die schnelle Hilfe Schorle (talk) 21:07, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

File:Hoff-Kirche-110708-032.JPG

Hello, could you please explain further your renaming from File:Hoff-Kirche-110708-032.JPG to File:Trzęsacz, kościół Miłosierdzia Bożego.jpg? You give the reason "To change from a meaningless or ambiguous name to ...". Is "Hoff Kirche" to you "meaningless" or is it "ambiguous"? Yours, --Turpit (talk) 21:10, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Turpit: it is meaningless:

1. look at Google maps: such a city/village does not exist
2. there was a Hoff city till 1945, but it is renamed :(
3. this photo is a present-day one
4. in Trzęsacz there are two churches:

Instead of that reasons, I usually try to keep two languages, but this time unfortunately I missed it :( If you would like, I will rename this file for bilingual name? Wieralee (talk) 21:39, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your explanation. However, since "Hoff" is an EN:Exonym for "Trzęsacz", I would hardly call it a "meaningless" description. Or is there a rule, that only the placenames exactly as used by Google Maps should be used here in Commons? Furthermore, there are not really two churches in this place, but rather one church and one church ruin. Yours, --Turpit (talk) 21:54, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Turpit: Thank you for your explanation. However, it is not an exonym, it is just an old name. Look at en:w:Hoff. I do not see any "Hoff" in Poland here. But we can discuss for hours... It is better to find a solution. Would you like me to rename it into File:Trzęsacz, kościół Miłosierdzia Bożego (Hoff-Kirche-110708-032).jpg? Or any other name? I can't just revert this edition, I haven't got such rights :( Wieralee (talk) 22:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

"Hoff" is an exonym for "Trzęsacz". Look at EN:Trzęsacz, Gryfice County, and you see there: "German Hoff an der Ostsee". Yours, --Turpit (talk) 21:06, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Turpit: you see: "Hoff an der Ostsee", not just "Hoff". it is another proof that it was a meaningless or ambiguous name... And it is the second time you don't you answer my questions :( Wieralee (talk) 09:12, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Reverted file renamings

Please help me! There is a user Ralf Roletschek who use bad names (14-05-06-budapest-RalfR-44.jpg, 14-05-06-budapest-RalfR-11.jpg and so) and revert multiple of my renaming question Sincerely, - - Globetrotter19 (talk) 15:16, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Gephyromantis leucocephalus.jpg

Thank you beyond words for correcting from File:GephyromantisMantidactylus leucocephalus.jpg! It's no excuse, yet I was getting very tired after moving 31 of these genus changes on Wikipedia. Best of everything to you and yours! Paine Ellsworth (talk) 08:10, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Filemover right

Hi again, Wieralee – I was just granted the filemover right on the English Wikipedia, and I'm curious about how rigid Commons administrators are about the edit-count requirement shown in the {{Tmbox}} at Requests for rights#Filemover? Over nearly seven years I've accrued less than 200 edits on Commons, many of which were move requests that have all been approved. I have a good handle on what should and should not be renamed, and I expect to run into similar needs to move files in the future. I would also like to help out with backlogs as they arise. So, in your opinion is an edit count of 1000–1500 really a hard and fast requirement? Paine Ellsworth (talk) 08:45, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Paine Ellsworth: just try! We'll see ;-)

We have a proverb: "who wants to - he does, who does not want - he seeks advice" ;-)

It is good to study the Commons:File renaming page, especially the section Which files should not be renamed? (especially footnotes) and to observe the Commons:File renaming/Recently declined rename requests: you'll see how it works in practise. Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 09:05, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your advice, Wieralee! I will continue to study these pages. Paine Ellsworth (talk) 10:02, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Wieralee, once again, beyond words, I am so grateful to you and for your evidently spot-on advice! I was generously awarded the filemover right here on Commons. You are proved to be a phenomenal counselor! Paine Ellsworth (talk) 07:58, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

• @Paine Ellsworth: I'm happy ;-) Wieralee (talk) 08:02, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

File:China Anqing Yingjiang.png

I asked to correct my misprint by renaming "ChinaAnqingYinjiang.png" to "ChinaAnqingYingjiang.png" (to add a missing "g"). Unfortunately you not only added "g", but voluntary added spaces. It is a violation of renaming guidelines (see the 1st example in "Criteria to decline": there is an example of adding space into the name). I humbly ask to rename file EXACTLY as in my first request: without spaces in the name. --Slb nsk (talk) 09:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Slb nsk: you should read the file renaming template:

"It has been suggested by ... that this media object be renamed to "File:ChinaAnqingYingjiang.png" or another more suitable name for the following reason, ect.".

Each filemover can change the proposed name when it is not suitable. The name should have spaces to make it easier to find in the browser. Remember, you add files not for yourself but for other people all over the world and it should be easy to find and to use. We don't add spaces, when the change would only add spaces, this is done with other changes (in this case it is a typo). Wieralee (talk) 10:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

I remember, that names WITHOUT spaces are common for ALL locator maps of China, it is not my fantasy, you can see many examples from many years here, for example. Hence I ask you to follow the common rule and rename file into the name WITHOUT spaces. It is not a foto, it is a locator map, which is easy to find in category (in any browser). Such names are used in the Infoboxes, which are created semi-automatically. --Slb nsk (talk) 11:05, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Slb nsk: I think this is a problem with the justification for the request... Nobody knew it is used in templates: you haven't written it :(

@Pokéfan95: in such a situation, can you consider the renaming request again, please? Wieralee (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay, since Sib nsk explained why the filename should have no spaces, I will move the file. Thanks, ★ Poké⁹⁵ 11:28, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Pokéfan95: thanks a lot!

@Slb nsk: next time maybe it would be better to use Criterion #1 with a note "for using in templates" ... ;-)

Thank you all. Wieralee (talk) 11:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for recommendation. There are many counties in China without locator maps, hence I'll be able to use your advice ;-) --Slb nsk (talk) 11:42, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

File moving

Hi Wieralee, If a rename doesn't include the file format at the end (IE .jpg, .png etc etc) then can it still be moved to that format?, I've just declined all of Elekes Andor's renames only to find it'd conflicted with you and had completely ignored all of my declines ..., Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 20:39, 1 June 2016 (UTC) : @Davey: I don't see it here ? Something goes wrong :(

I was accepting this request because it is told on Commons:File renaming "Which files should be renamed?" page: #1. At the original uploader's request.[1][Unless there is a compelling reason not to, uploader requests should be honored. This is a courtesy, not an absolute, however.].

But I'm sorry I did not support your decision to decline: I haven't known it :( It wasn't intentional. I beg your pardon, Wieralee (talk) 20:43, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Davey: Sorry, I haven't understood your question... I think we were trying to rename in the same while. And your rename had interrupted my rename, so the bot did not moved the templates, and te templates were completely not accurate. And I had to remove it by myself. Sometimes it happens... Wieralee (talk) 20:52, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

What I'm saying is if you look here the uploader never included the .jpg at the end so I assumed if the uploader missed the .jpg off it'd be renamed "File:Unexpected Shopping - Les Halles (1)" instead of "File:Unexpected Shopping - Les Halles (1).jpg",

I don't have a problem with your moves or the conflicts :) –Davey2010^Talk 20:57, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Davey: I had noticed that it is impossible to change the extension intentionally (sometimes a bot is changing the extension: for example from .ogg to .oga; but not the user) -- and even if the extentension is not contained => the rename works quite properly. The bot is not taking off the template when there is an enter inside the template, I think. Wieralee (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

• Ohhh right - I wasn't sure so figured I'd ask :), Thanks for your help :) x –Davey2010^Talk 21:37, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Reply:Category:Evolutionary algorithm

Sorry.Fixed.Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 12:59, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Avicennia journal category for deletion

Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Avicennia (revista de ecología oceanología biodiversidad tropical). --Snek01 (talk) 21:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

File:Жнівеньскі Лондан 102.JPG

Hi Wieralee. Could you please explain what was wrong with my renaming request? --Judithcomm (talk) 22:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Judithcomm: We don't change the original uploader's language. You can add an English text in a description. Our Commons browser is searching both: in names and in descriptions, too. You can also read a discussion here and here. Yours, Wieralee (talk) 22:54, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Lakes in Mexico State

Ok, thank you by the note.--Marrovi (talk) 21:17, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

I'm this categoty Category:Salado River, Mexico, it's a similar case, because in Spain there is other River Salado.--Marrovi (talk) 21:35, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

• @Marrovi: ok, let's see it now: Category:Salado River. Wieralee (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Ok. --Marrovi (talk) 21:54, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Eklund > Wiklund

After renaming the picture file could you please also delete [this] RX-Guru (talk) 07:08, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Thx

for your renaming - zdraví :-) -jkb- (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Delete redundant image uploads

Hi Wieralee,

Thanks for renaming my incorrectly spelt image.

Could you also please delete all previous versions of these images:

• File:cmglee_Wikimania2016_Esino_Lario_Municipio_photosphere.jpg
• File:cmglee_Wikimania2016_Esino_Lario_Piazza_Italia_photosphere.jpg

which I accidentally uploaded multiple times, as my mobile browser seemed unresponsive and I unknowingly clicked Upload multiple times?

Thank you in advance,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 19:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Cmglee: they can be hidden, but never really deleted. All deletions on wiki projects are a kind of hiding (deleted files remain on the servers - and are always available for administrators). It is better to do nothing ;-) Yours, Wieralee (talk) 22:06, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Wieralee. That's all right then; just thought it's a waste of server space, especially as each is over 10 MB. Cheers, cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 12:22, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

thanks for taking care on Kazakhstan categories Zac Allan (talk) 12:32, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Kostol sv. Mikuláša

Hi, Wieralee, you declined my renaming request with reason "Commons is multilingual". I agree it is, but we have in Slovakia really lot St. Nicholas' churches, even in Bratislava we have 3 :) So it is dangerously ambiguous name, I appeal for change of your decision... Nice day from Bratislava.--kelovy (talk) 02:56, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Kelovy: no problem. You should change the name for new -- but in Slovak language, not in English. You can add a description in English: our browser is searching both: in names and in descriptions, too. For months we were accepting such requests, but we had a big discussion recently, so it is forbidden to change the original uploader's language now. Some of less experienced renamers can accept such requests, but it is not safe: they can lost their rights.
  

Have a nice day :-) Yours, Wieralee (talk) 08:13, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Aha, thank you for explanation :) Despite I do not agree with such agreement (because English is used worldwide and it is better to have names in one language), I have to accept it and will make new attempt for renaming :) Nice day again :) --kelovy (talk) 09:45, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Butterflies of the Netherlands

Hi, Wieralee, can you explain why you: Moved everything from Category:Butterflies of the Netherlands to Category:Lepidoptera of the Netherlands ?. And why you redirected Butterflies to Lepidoptera.. (this is not the same, moths and butterflies are both lepidoptera and it would make more sense to have those two categories under lepidoptera..) Bj.schoenmakers (talk) 16:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Bj.schoenmakers: look the history: [25] it wasn't my decision. You should ask User:Slimguy about it. I'm only cleaning redirected categories when they are not empty, as they should. Yours, Wieralee (talk) 19:43, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

11 miesięcy

Dokładnie 11 miesięcy temu—też późnym wieczorem—zaproponowałem Ci nominację na administratora tutaj na Commons. Odpowiedziałaś mi wtedy, że nie czujesz się jeszcze na siłach i że być może będziesz chciała kandydować za rok (może dwa). Obserwowałem Cię od tej pory od czasu do czasu i przyznam się, że nawet poruszałem potajemnie kwestię Twojej nominacji z innymi użytkownikami :-)

Z tego, co widzę, to wbrew swoim własnym przewidywaniom nie tylko nie zraziłaś do siebie prawie nikogo, a wręcz przeciwnie — Twoja strona dyskusji pełna jest podziękowań od mnóstwa osób. W związku z tym chciałbym Ci raz jeszcze zaproponować kandydaturę na administratora Commons; z tego, co wiem, posiadasz już wystarczające doświadczenie, a Twoją nominację powinna wesprzeć dość liczna grupa regularnych użytkowników. Co Ty na to? Dasz radę? Masz ochotę? Daj mi znać, a z ogromną przyjemnością Cię nominuję. Śmiało—potrzebujemy świeżej krwi i Twojego podejścia do pracy na Commons :-) odder (talk) 22:34, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Odder: bardzo Ci dziękuję. Jest mi bardzo trudno Ci odmówić -- tym bardziej, że zadałeś sobie wiele trudu i jest mi naprawdę przykro, że na próżno. Daj mi więcej czasu. Dużo, dużo, duuuużo więcej czasu :-) Jeśli zajdą okoliczności, że będę naprawdę potrzebować przycisków, sama się do Ciebie zgłoszę.

Jeszcze raz bardzo, bardzo dziękuję. Pozdrawiam ciepło, Wieralee (talk) 20:56, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Issues with file extension of a file that you moved

Hi, thanks for moving this file with the spelling correction. However, you have changed the file extension from .ogg to .oga because of which it is not being played in {{Audio2}} template. Can you please move to the right extension i.e. .ogg? Thanks. --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 10:40, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Psubhashish: it is impossible to change the extension intentionally -- all extensions have been changed automatically by Commons software: we can do nothing. Filemovers can not change an extension. You can find .ogg files on Commons, but it comes from old uploads. When you rename an old .ogg name, all extensions will change into .oga automatically. Do not worry about it ;-) Yours, Wieralee (talk) 10:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

But what is the issue with the {{Audio2}} template? I tried using the audio [[:file inside another file's description and it is not working. Can you please help fix it? --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 11:48, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Psubhashish:  Done The template doesn't like a word "File:" inside. Wieralee (talk) 12:26, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thank you so much @Wieralee: . As a gesture of thanking you I'd love to swap a postcard if you're interested. :) --Subhashish Panigrahi (talk) 13:32, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

• @Psubhashish: lovely :-) Thanks a lot :-) Wieralee (talk) 08:56, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Files rename request

Hi! I've created the renaming requests for the multiple files, that's in the category "Shikh Keshnash medieval cemetery". It's an old medieval cemetery in the borderline of Chechnya and Dagestan, almost destroyed by the dagestani people when chechens form that region were sent out by Stalin government in feb.1944. At these cemetery we can see the grave of one of the most interested chechen warlords of era - Shikh Okotsky. Can you rename these files? Category:Shikh_Keshnash_medieval_cemetery Thanks! - Zac Allan (talk) 15:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

And i don't understand why you ask me to add an English desc., and decline it. I can add a russian naming, but last time it has been declined by the wiki saying that something is wrong and it's too long to process. - Zac Allan (talk) 15:32, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

It will be like this:File:Старый надгробный камень на средневековом нахском кладбище Ших-Кешнаш, предполагаемом месте захоронения выдающегося военачальника чеченцев Шиха Окотского в 1596 году(5).jpg

• @Zac Allan: English description doesn't mean English name. A name is a name, a description is a description. It is not the same. I have added a description for you here. Can you see the difference?

Read this talk, please. It is the same situation.

If you have still any questions, I will try to explain.

Thanks for your message :-) Greetings from Wieralee (talk) 15:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

OK, so, as far as i got, i have to search for the russian-chechen interpreters to translate for me this small phrase to put into request? If so, can you help me to machine-add the requests or even just change it without putting in the request, if possible? Author of these pictures is agree with me that the name of them is not so good. - Zac Allan (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Zac Allan: you don't understand me at all... Have you read my message above?

1) you can NOT rename it for English name

2) it should have the name in the language of its original upload

3) you can add an English description (like here)

4) you can ask for renaming, but do NOT change the language!

5) an uploader can ask for renaming for himself -- his request for changing the language may be honoured, but not for sure...

Yours, Wieralee (talk) 17:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Zac Allan: вы не понимаете меня вообще... Вы читали мое сообщение выше?

1) вы не можете переименовать его на английском языке

2) он должен иметь имя на языке своей первоначальной загрузки

3) Вы можете добавить описание на английском(как здесь)

4) вы можете попросить переименованием, но не изменить язык!

5) загрузчик может попросить переименовать сам - его просьбу о смене языка могут быть выполнены, но не уверен ...

С уважением, Wieralee (talk) 17:15, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

• • Да, сложное у нас получается общение :). Я всё сращу понял, не нужно писать на русском, просто сложно перевести это... Перевёл я на чеченский с помощью чеченцев знакомых. File:Юккъерчу бӀешерийн Ших-Кешнаш цӀе йолу нехан кешнашкара шира чурт, схьахетарехь кхузахь 1596 шарахь дӀавоьллина нохчийн гӀарваьлла волу тӀеман куьйгалхо Шихмурз. :). Can you process the rename now with this name? Or do i need to request it? - Zac Allan (talk) 17:35, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Zac Allan: Большинство ваших запросов, чтобы изменить имя на самом деле не нужны вообще. Наш браузер выполняет поиск как на имя и описание. Просто добавьте что-то в описании - и сразу же он будет отображаться в поисковой системе. Нет необходимости, чтобы изменить имя, если оно содержит ошибки. С уважением, Wieralee (talk) 18:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Спасибо за помощь и за разъяснения! В любом случае, я стараюсь переименовать файл, так как мне очень не нравится "кривое" название, я убеджён, что название должно быть само по себе понятным. - Zac Allan (talk) 21:59, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
• @Zac Allan: Я думаю, что это пустая трата времени. Вероятно, через год или два, наши файлы не будут иметь имя, только номер, как и в викиданные - и они будут иметь только описания на нескольких языках. Смотрите здесь: [26]. Но это ваше время :-) Спокойной ночи, Wieralee (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Not good

So, you’re still granting renaming requests that go against the spirit of COM:FR, I see. You should know that

1. filenames are not descriptions (so, the bar of what is ambiguous is set much lower);
2. if the new name you chose or accept isn’t 100% perfect (as in this case) you made two mistakes: You still damage filename stability, and you still have ambiguous filnames.

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 02:07, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Tuvalkin: perfect file name does not exist -- someone can always find a better name. Saying "new name you accept isn’t 100% perfect" you are saying "no moves at all".

Look at Commons:File renaming into examples for Criterion#2: we should accept renamings like:

"File:Smartphone.jpg" => "File:Samsung Galaxy Note series (Original, II, and 3).jpg"

"File:Paris 319.jpg" => "File:Paris 75018 Rue Norvins no 018 Le Consulat z.jpg"

This is the same situation:

"File:SintraTicket1.JPG" => "File:Bilhete do elétrico histórico de Sintra, março 2014. (1).jpg"

To decline this request, I have to explain my decision...

If you do not like renamings with Criterion#2, you can start a discussion and voting to change the Commons:File renaming rules. Maybe it is the best solution for all of us. I'm a filemover and I would be happy to have stiff, clear rules, not only hundreds of interpretations :-(

Yours, Wieralee (talk) 10:31, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

User:Wieralee, the filename Bilhete do elétrico histórico de Sintra, março 2014. (1).jpg is bad at least for two reasons:

1. It includes "(1)" (and there’s another similar image with "(2)", I know); this is a numbering system (incipient as it is), and that numbering is as meaningless as things like DSC0026483.jpeg which are so bad that’s even a blacklist to filter them out upon upload.
2. It includes two periods (for no good reason, grammar-wise), which may trigger bogus virus alerts.

I think you should have simply declined the request: "SintraTicket1.JPG" is a valid filename for the content in question (even with that "1") — don’t forget that one thing are filenaming guidelines (upon upload of new files), another are file renaming concerns.

As a filemover, my rule is: Files should not be renamed/moved, because filename stability trumps almost every other concern. Since some filenames are so wrong they really need to be changed, COM:FR lists the exceptional situations when renaming/moving has to be allowed. (And no, I don’t want to change COM:FR; every time it is changed it gets dumber at the hands of photography fetishists who have nor care nor abilities to curate a free media repository — when they get tired with this toy and go back to Flickr, then maybe some work can be done.)

-- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:22, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

• P. S. There is my discussion with this user above. It is in Russian, so I translate a few sentences for you:

• • @Zac Allan: Most of your requests to change the name is not really needed at all. Our browser searches as name and description. Just add something in the description - and soon it will be displayed in the search engine. There is no need to change the name if it doesn't contain errors. Yours faithfully... Wieralee (dyskusja) 18:41, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your help and for the clarification! In any case, I try to rename the file because I do not like "crooked" title, I know that the title should be understandable by itself. - Zac Allan (dyskusja) 21:59, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
  • @Zac Allan: I think it's a waste of time. Perhaps in a year or two, our files will not have a name, just a number, as in Wikidata - and they will only have a description in several languages. See here: [27]. But this is your time :-) Good night, Wieralee (dyskusja) 22:23, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

User:Wieralee, you don’t need to translate Russian for someone named Tuvalkin: Я прекрасно понимаю. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:22, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes I have ru-1 in my profile Babel, but I can understand written Russian without difficulty. (While Zac Allan has en-4, «English at a near-native level», and yet he speaks like Borat… Go figure.) -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 23:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Tuvalkin: you are writing many interesting things, but... Let's look at Commons:File renaming page (about re-naming). I don't see information "DO NOT MOVE FILE IF IT IS NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY" there... I don't see information "New names should not contain dates because it can cause anti-virus alerts". On the page Commons:File naming (about naming) I see: "When the year, date or version may be of importance, it is good to include it in the file name"...

I dream to see the instruction "when the name doesn't contain errors, do not rename it -- use description instead" on the Commons:File renaming one day... But it is only a point of view of a few renamers... it is a "rule" I can read nowhere, I'm afraid...

I need to have concrete rules which I can quote for requesters: the reason "User:Tuvalkin have told it" is not reliable, I'm sorry. Show me the sources which I can quote, please.

Thanks for your time. I really appreciate it. Yours, Wieralee (talk) 00:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

User:Wieralee, two things:

1. Like I said, COM:FR was already stupidified. Yet filename stability is a basic concern in any media repository — I don’t need a guideline to tell me that, just like cliff edges don’t need signs saying «Don’t jump!»: You simply know when it’s not safe to jump. (Using this analogy, in my view COM:FR should be the emmergency pack labelled «Parachute inside»…)
2. Dots, not dates. Educate yourself.

And now this discussion ends. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Foro Romano

Hi, Wieralee. I've reverted your moving from Category:Foro romano to Category:Forum Romanum for File:001229 10 foro romano.JPG, because "Foro Romano" is the name of the street, from "Via della Curia" to "Via di San Teodoro", since 1911; <category:Forum Romanum> instead indicates only the archaeological site. See here for the document. Bye. --Lalupa (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Lalupa: look here after your revert. You have put file into a redirected category... Redirected categories should be empty, because nobody see their contaiment. If you don't like this movement, you should talk to User:DenghiùComm [28], I think... Greetings from Wieralee (talk) 20:23, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Tomasz Wójcik

Serdecznie dziękuję za życzliwe uwagi dotyczące moich plakatów.
Żeby przekonać się o moim autorstwie, wystarczy zajrzeć na moją stronę autorską cytowaną w Wikipedii. Wiedząc od mojego przyjaciela wikipedysty o skomplikowanej procedurze OTRS, zdecydowałem się na założenie własnego konta w Wikipedii, aby móc sygnować moim nazwiskiem moje własne prace. Procedura OTRS wymagałaby pokonywania procedury za każdym razem, gdybym chciał uzupełnić moją kolekcję w Commons. W Wikipedii krążą miliony prac sygnowanych „own work”. Będę szczerze wdzięczny za poradę, co zrobić w moim przypadku. Ostatnio do sprawy włączył się wikipedysta Masur, grożąc szybkim skasowaniem. Czy mam zwątpić w zdrowy rozsądek? Mój przyjaciel wikipedysta zamieścił w Commons dziesiątki zdjęć z uwagą "own" i jakoś nikt nie kwestionował jego autorstwa.

Pozdrowienia – Tomasz Wójcik --Tomekwojcik.eu (talk) 12:45, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Tomekwojcik.eu: ze zdjęciami nie ma kłopotów, ale z innymi pracami graficznymi zawsze może być problem... Commons ma ponad 200 administratorów, dziś napisał do Ciebie Masur (to automatyczna wiadomość, nic personalnego ;-) ), jutro to może być ktoś inny. Napisz, proszę do któregoś z operatorów OTRS [29] posługujących się językiem polskim (Babel pl) -- i poproś o pomoc. Jeśli odpowie Ci niezbyt pomocnie, możesz napisać do kogoś innego ;-) Nie taki diabeł straszny, jak go malują :-) Cały problem w niezrozumieniu zasad: tak naprawdę system OTRS powstał po to, by chronić prawa twórców, a nie po to, by im utrudniać życie... Trzeba być jednak świadomym, że uwalniając prawa do utworu, zezwala się na jego użycie (także komercyjne) bez prawa do wynagrodzenia... Wieralee (talk) 14:59, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
• @Tomekwojcik.eu: Z szablonem {{Own}} to jest tak, że nie należy go używać do prac, które przed zamieszczeniem na Commons były opublikowane gdzie indziej. Ten kto zamieszcza w ten sposób prace opublikowane gdzie indziej, ryzykuje natychmiastowym skasowaniem obrazków i blokadą konta, jeżeli inni użytkownicy, a zwłaszcza administratorzy to zauważą. Inna sprawa, że w przypadku prac profesjonalnych, w zasadzie każdy w dowolnej chwili może zażądać przesłania pozwolenia. Czyli de facto szablon {{Own}} nadaje się wyłącznie do publikowania oryginalnych prac amatorskich.

Co do zamieszczania przez ciebie własnych, publikowanych gdzie indziej prac, są możliwe dwie drogi:

1. wysyłanie dla każdej pracy e-maila z pozwoleniem (akurat polskojęzyczne kolejki są obsługiwane sprawnie i nie ma w nich backlogów),
2. oznaczenie tych prac we własnym serwisie jako dostępnych na wolnej licencji, tej samej, na której chcesz je zamieszczać w Commons (tu ważne jest, by nie było wątpliwości, że strona zawierająca pozwolenie jest oficjalną stroną autora - może to być oficjalny profil autora w serwisie Flickr, ale już nie Facebook ani po prostu jakis blog) i podawanie na stronie opisu linku do tej informacji.

Ankry (talk) 11:59, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Jeszcze Tomasz Wójcik

Dowiedziałem się, że Wójcik wysłał oświadczenie o autorstwie do permissions, ale nie dostał odpowiedzi, a tygodniowy termin się kończy. Czy mogę prosić w jego imieniu o życzliwą pomoc? Ja trzy lata temu wycofałem się z pl-wiki, działam za granicą i tam spotykam się tylko z źyczliwością. Ale mam prośbę. Zajmuję się malarstwem XIX wieku. Lekkomyślnie załadowałem do Commons plik nie sprawdziwszy dość dokładnie jego autentyczności. Okazał się fałszywką. Czy mogę prosić o skasowanie? Oto on: François Cachoud - tableau 6.jpg Z góry pięknie dziękuję i serdecznie pozdrawiam --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Szczebrzeszynski: wiem o czym mówisz, niestety... ja też rzadko edytuję na samej wiki. Ale jest coraz lepiej :-) Mam szczęście zawsze trafić na pomocne dusze :-)
  

Co do grafik Tomasza Wójcika oznaczyłam je szablonem informującym o tym, że sprawa jest w toku (instrukcja jest na stronie Commons:OTRS/pl). A co do François'a Cachoud - sprawa jest w toku.

Gdyby kiedyś trafiła Ci się podobna sytuacja, możesz zadziałać sam ;-) możesz "ściągnąć" z pliku oznaczenia autora i licencji z adnotacją o pomyłce, a potem sam zgłosić do usunięcia (lewy boczny pasek => Narzędzia => Zgłoś do usunięcia).

Mnie się to często zdarza ;-) W ferworze uwalniania plików, zapominam nieraz o URAA -- i ściągam kłopoty ;-)

Jak coś, to jestem. Wszystkiego dobrego :-) Wieralee (talk) 09:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Prześlicznie dziekuję. To wielkie szczęście spotkać się z źyczliwoscią, tak daleką od Polskiej Normy Nieżyczliwości. --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 10:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Szczebrzeszynski:  Done. Usunięte na wniosek autora. Ankry (talk) 12:01, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Ankry: wielkie dzięki! Wieralee (talk) 12:04, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Przemiła Koleżanko, rączuchny opadają. Masur zmusił Tomka Wójcika do wystąpienia do permissions, a od dziesięciu dni nic się nie dzieje. Kiedyś to trwało dzień-dwa. W de-wiki OTRS dostaje się w dwie godziny. Co się dzieje z pl-wiki? Pięknie pozdrawiam --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 15:02, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Szczebrzeszynski: okres jest wakacyjny, a wolontariuszy niewielu, niewielu... Na pewno w niedługim czasie ticket będzie zarejestrowany :-) Wieralee (talk) 18:04, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
• @Szczebrzeszynski: Ze zgodami przysyłanymi przez osoby widoczne na zdjęciu jest problem: trzeba wykazać, że osoby te nabyły prawa autorskie od fotografa. Jeżeli tego nie uczyniły, zgoda jest nieważna. Natomiast jeśli nie potrafią wykazać przeniesienia praw, zdjęcie łapie się na COM:PRP. Chyba, że mamy do czynienia z ewidentnym selfie... Ankry (talk) 17:46, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Infobox do opisu zdjęć

Witaj, gdzie znajdę infoboxy do opisu zdjęć? Szukałem ale nie znalazłem. Pozdrawiam Wlodek k1 (talk) 13:18, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Wlodek k1: trochę tego jest, np:
  • Template:Artwork, przykładowe użycie File:Stanislaw Wyspianski.jpg
  • Template:Photo Information
  • Template:Art Photo
  • Template:Photograph

Możesz też na ich podstawie zrobić sobie własny szablon, np. "Template:Photo Wlodek k1" ;-)

Powodzenia! Wieralee (talk) 15:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Wieralee: bardzo dziekuję :-) Wlodek k1 (talk) 16:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Re: Zmiana nazwy

A to jest jakiś problem? Nie wiedziałem. Możemy przecież użyć przecinka albo poziomej kreski. --WTM (talk) 22:27, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

• @WTM: nasi programiści twierdzą, że to od wielu lat nie ma znaczenia, ale tutaj wydają się twierdzić inaczej... Ciężko mi się do tego odnieść, z informatyką mam niewiele wspólnego :-) Wieralee (talk) 22:33, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

File:De-Giessen pronunciation in German.oga

you did the renaming; but .oga? ...Sicherlich ^talk 12:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Sicherlich: it is impossible to change the extension intentionally -- all extensions have been changed automatically by Commons software: we can do nothing. Filemovers can not change an extension. You can find .ogg files on Commons, but it comes from old uploads. When you rename an old .ogg name, all extensions will change into .oga automatically. Do not worry about it ;-) Yours, Wieralee (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

okay. Interesting. Thx for the info! ...Sicherlich ^talk 14:17, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

File:Memorial sign to Vasily Andreyevich Voronin in Bratskoye.jpg

Hi. I noticed that you renamed this file from Ukrainian transliteration (Bratske) to a Russian one (Bratskoye). Would you please rename it back to Ukrainian transliteration, as there is no reason to use a Russian name for a photo of a sign in Ukrainian in Ukraine uploaded under a Ukrainian name. Same for File:Monument to Mirgay Farkhutdinov in Bratskoye.jpg which also got a Russian name. Thanks — NickK (talk) 12:16, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

• @NickK: the problem is that these files were uploaded with meaningless, not descriptive names. The naming policy tells that Commons is multilingual, so we should not change the language chosen by the original uploader. The problem is that I don't know what language is User:Karbashevsky speaking: his user's page and his Babel does not exist :( The rule is not Ukrainian city => name in Ukrainian language. The rule is Ukrainian city => name in the language of original uploader.

I have renamed this two files, but I still have got doubts. Yours, Wieralee (talk) 13:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Vasyatka1: your requests have made problems... Can tell us more about this renames? Wieralee (talk) 13:29, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm OK with both variants, Wieralee. The only difference between the toponym names was Russian and Ukrainian styles of transliteration. For instance, you can see this difference in article Kiev in English Wikipedia. That's it. The initial filename was meaningless (this should be clear for everyone), now it's not. Thank you for your kind involvement. --Vasyatka1 (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Załadowana nowa wersja zdjęcia nie ukazuje się

Witaj mam problem. Załadowałem nową wersję zdjęcia, a cały czas mi się ukazuje stara. Nie wiem jaki popełniam błąd np. tu Andrzej Młyński. Pozdrawiam Wlodek k1 (talk) 10:43, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Włodek1: ja też nie widzę różnicy. Myślę, że może trzeba nazwać to "nowe" zdjęcie u Ciebie na dysku inaczej i dopiero spróbować zrobić podmiankę... Jak chcesz, możesz wysłać mi to "nowe" zdjęcie na maila (na mojej stronie użytkownika), mogę spróbować nadpisać z innego IP. Pozdrawiam, Wieralee (talk) 12:53, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
• @Włodek1: ale wyostrzenie widzę... Może to problem z odświeżaniem ciasteczek w Twoim komputerze. możesz wymusić odświeżenie poprzez Ctrl + F5 albo przez Ctrl + R albo też kliknąć na stronie zdjęcia u góry na "więcej" (za edytuj) i wybrać "Purge" lub "Odśwież". Wieralee (talk) 12:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Wieralee: zdobiłem Ctrl + R i zadziałało :-). Pozdrawiam Wlodek k1 (talk) 13:48, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Please leave catalog numbers in file names Peace Palace Library

Dear Wieralee,

Sometimes you change filenames of images donated by the Peace Palace Library without a discussion, for instance portrait of Spinola or Danckerts (now File:Dankaerts_Historis_-_Maastricht_map_-_9350.tiff, i had to put the number back in). Do you have a list of your filename changes? I understand your irritation and agree that the names are ugly, these uploads had to be done in a race against the clock without descriptions (!), the only way in 2014 or not upload them at all. I prefer to have a descriptive filename including a library/donor number for cross reference, which i have done with all my later uploads (~260.000). But

• Could you please please keep the reference number in the filename?

Then i can check whether all my sheep are (still) there, otherwise i miss this image number in the list of uploaded files and i conclude i have lost images, somebody else might have added new images, etc. Thank you, Hansmuller (talk) 20:20, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

PS See what i mean Category:Prints_from_Dankaerts_Historis_at_the_Peace_Palace_Library?

• @Hansmuller: no problem, I will try to avoid this category in the future :-) It was User:OSeveno's request. If there will be a problem with renaming again -- we can always rename a file again. Just put a rename template inside: {{rename|new name|number of Criterion|verbal explanation|user=Hansmuller}}, for example: {{rename|Dankaerts_Historis_-_Maastricht_map_no_9350.tiff|1|mass upload harmonization|user=Hansmuller}}. Wieralee (talk) 22:05, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
  • You don't have to avoid this category, that's not what i meant, just don't hastily destroy useful information and order while improving titles. (The criterion for renaming was not met (not a useless number, see the category overview)). I hope people will help describing the images of the Peace Palace, i worked on them (i did some 500, still a few hunderd important historical images to go, like these Danckerts ones) the last few weeks, it drives me crazy). The filename system with the donor number after author and title puts the images in their category in the order of the pages in the book! Hansmuller (talk) 08:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

PS Mass uploaders all use a system like this, i also used it for Naturalis, for example Category:Songbird specimens at Naturalis Biodiversity Center or User:Husky's Category:Media from Atlas of Mutual Heritage.

PS2 Thanks for your explanation, i have permission as a file mover. Hansmuller (talk) 08:34, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Sir
I would like to thank you for your approval on renaming the file of Stefan Winer (historian).
Hopping for further co-oprating for the best of WIKIMEDIA.
Best regards
--Mharfouche (talk) 15:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Cat-a-lot

Thank you for your help moving the subcategories of the second/third/whatever Roman Republic. I have Cat-a-lot activated and can use it to move all the images in the folder but I can't figure out how to move all the subcategories to the new name. Could you describe the procedure or is there a guide you could link me to? — LlywelynII 09:38, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Llywelyn: using "cat-a-lot" you have to remember a few things:

• you have to switch it on in preferences

• you have to mark files you wish (into green) by clicking on the name (but not on the letters, click near at the blank place, you can use "shift" cap to click the first and the last)

• "move" and "remove" option works only in category where the file currently is

• "copy" works anywhere, but it adds next categories only.

If anything still goes wrong, write to me, will find the problem ;-)

Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 09:46, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Found it. I could already move the individual files but moving categories is inexplicably defaulted off. You can activate it in Cat-a-lot's own preferences, though. — LlywelynII 09:51, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Llywelyn: Nice to hear :-) Wieralee (talk) 10:02, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for cleaning up the village category for the canton of Lucerne. Pingelig (talk) 14:36, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Gothic revival architecture

Followup to your participation at Commons:Categories for discussion/2012/01/Revival architectural styles: I've gradually been moving individual "revival" categories to "Revival", but there are so many of them — over 1,400 in total! I've just now given up on the manual moves and made a massive CommonsDelinker request, and SteinsplitterBot has already begun moving the categories and their contents. At the rate things are going, we may see everything moved before a significant amount of time has passed, but then of course we'll have to start on the Romanesque revival categories. Thanks for your help in the discussion and followup! Nyttend (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Nyttend: oh, sorry. I didn't noticed. Thanks for an information :-) Wieralee (talk) 14:39, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

rename request

My rename request was not to demean the Polish, but to match the other titles in the series. Please have a look and consider my rename again, thanks!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:25, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

1. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis blue.gif
2. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis bronze.svg
3. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis burgundy.png
4. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis dark blue.svg
5. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis green.svg
6. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis pink.png
7. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis red.gif
8. File:WikiProject Scouting fleur-de-lis transparent.png

• @Kintetsubuffalo: Harmonization is needed only for sister projects or for using in templates. Read the Commons:File renaming page, please: Just because images share a category does not mean that they are part of a set. Renaming more than 100 files into one language only because it will "look better" does not comply with renaming guidelines. You can use a description instead: our browser is searching both: in the filename and in the description. Wieralee (talk) 10:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean by "Renaming more than 100 files into one language only because it will "look better""-I have certainly suggested no such thing.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:03, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Kintetsubuffalo: in Category:Fleur-de-lis symbols there are more than 100 files. And -- as I see -- you are trying to rename them step by step... I'm only trying to show you that it is not consistent with the renaming guidelines. Some of less experienced renamers can accept your requests, especially, when they see only one or two of them at the same time -- but it is not safe -- they can loose their remover rights :( I will not rename the File:Lilijka-fragm.svg, but you can try with another filemover, I will not decline twice... Good luck! ;-) Wieralee (talk) 11:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

I'm not doing anything step-by-step-those other were renamed 6 years ago, not a pattern on my part. Please assume good faith. I don't need to resubmit the request, I ask that you don't read motives into users when there is not a motive.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:54, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

In addition, you and I are looking at different categories. I am working on Category:WikiProject Scouting logos, I hadn't even looked at Category:Fleur-de-lis symbols until you pointed me there just now. Most of those in Category:Fleur-de-lis symbols are not Scouting logos, so I haven't added them and have no plans to do so.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:59, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Kintetsubuffalo: Anyway, the motives are not important if the renaming request does not meet the requirements...
  

I'm sorry if I offended you: it was not my intention. Have a nice day :-) Wieralee (talk) 12:03, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Categories of people by city

Beware! German user Slimguy made a mess by creating the new cats "people of" whithout moving from "People from" and thus losing all the Wikidata links . I had to temporarily delete all the new cats created by him then move the old to the new name. When you see a cat "people of" in counties and states alphabetically after Missouri check whether the cat "people from..." has the interlings coming from wikidata.... -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 12:42, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Blackcat: oh, I see. Thanks for the info. Wieralee (talk) 12:44, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Renaming file from Brooklyn Museum

The following rename request comply with the renaming guidelines: [30]:

Guideline #4: "To harmonize the file names of a set of images: so that only one part of all names differs."

There is a set of images, which only differ in the number:

• File:S03_06_01_003_image_961.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_962.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_965.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_968.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_969.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_970.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_971.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1663.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1666.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1668.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1708.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1707.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1710.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1715.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1732.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1733.jpg
• File:S03_06_01_003_image_1755.jpg
• etc.

The only one which differs in the name is File:S03_06_01_003_image_966).jpg. Therefore, the bracket has to excluded, so that the name is harmonized.

Guideline #6: "Non-controversial maintenance and bug fixes, including fixing double extensions, invalid or incorrect extensions, character handling problems, and other similar technical issues."

Deleting the bracket is just a bug fix. If the number of opening and closing brackets is not the same, some programs cannot handle the text correctly and exit with an error.

In addition, it's not a controversial maintenance. Nobody wanted to allocate the bracket. It was just a single mistake, when more than 1000 images were imported. --Eulenspiegel1 (talk) 15:09, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Eulenspiegel1: look at the Commons:File renaming page:

Just because images share a category does not mean that they are part of a set. There are two scenarios that this criterion is designed for. First, certain complex templates (such as those that use BSicons); second sets for sister projects, like Wikisource, Wikibooks and others.

The original uploader had chosen bad, completely meaningless names. If you would like to rename them, propose a good name, please. A name, which would describe quite good things on the photo. Wieralee (talk) 16:03, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Eulenspiegel1: sometimes you are asking for rename in very cosmetic cases (like missing bracket). The problem is, that rename is not a safe operation. Some files disapear after renaming... and sometimes we can restore it, but sometimes we can't. Look at today's example, please: File:Əziz Əliyev 6.jpg. That is why we are trying to avoid renaming if it is not really usefull. Wieralee (talk) 16:17, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Du erhältst einen Orden!

	Der Fleißorden
	Thank you for your efforts caused by my slackness at Category:Craftspeople in Guédelon Schorle (talk) 16:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Grotesques v. Gargoyles

Hi Wieralee. I notice that you have been moving certain files from 'Grotesques' to 'Grotesque (gargoyle)'. Gargoyles are types of grotesques (usually on a wall), that incorporate water spouts, typically using the mouth as a water drain. Some of these files changed have been a lampost, a wall plaque, and sculptures, none of which have anything related to liquid draining through the grotesque's mouth, even though a file might state, through erroneous description implication, that it is a gargoyle. The problem probably lies with the change by User:Lobsterthermidor from 'Category:Grotesque' to 'Category:Grotesque (gargoyle)' apparently for purposes of differentiating from 'Grottoesque (Renaissance decoration)', which I think hardly needs it as a page note points this out. The parent category should be 'Grotesques' with sub cats including 'Gargoyles' et al, and a see link to 'Grottoesque (Renaissance decoration)' as is. Grotesques are certainly not a category of gargoyles, but the other way round. Acabashi (talk) 21:19, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Acabashi: it wasn't my decision, look here (as you noticed ;-)). I'm only cleaning redirected categories, because they should be empty. Files placed in redirected categories are hidden, nobody can see them... So I'm emptying them.

If you would like to change the caterization, no problem, do your best. I can help you if you want. But you have to tell me what to do :-)

Have a nice day :-) Wieralee (talk) 09:06, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi, Wieralee. In case you didn't know, there is a bot that cleans the redirected categories. (I see it a lot because the bot categorizes things into some categories that I watch.) There's usually no need to do it by hand. --Auntof6 (talk) 09:49, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Auntof6: that is the theory ;-) In practice: in some cases bot can't do it automatically, and it have to be done manually ;-) Wieralee (talk) 11:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Category:Railway stations in Merthyr Tydfil County Borough

Before you go further, there is a discussion on this topic at User talk:Blackcat. I think a CFD may be required here. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 11:53, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice

A very very warm thank for your kind advice about file renaming. That was very helpful for me. Ibrahim Husain Meraj (talk) 08:52, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

About renaming File:Chibizhizhan.png

Hi. I found that you declined my renaming request. I know that Commons should be multilingual, however the former name "File:Chibizhizhan.png" is neither Chinese or English. Its correct English name should be "w:en:Battle of Red Cliffs", and "Chibizhizhan" is the pronunciation of its Chinese name "赤壁之战". But there are many ways to latinization the pronunciation of Chinese characters, "Chibizhizhan" just one of those ways. Because the cutlines on the image is in traditional Chinese, so that I submitted a renaming request to move it to "File:赤壁之戰示意圖.png", meaning "The Map of Battle of Red Cliffs". If possible, please help me renaming this file. Thanks. --Techyan（Talk） 11:08, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Techyan: it is not personal. We have a rule: an original uploader decides about the filename language. Commons is multilingual and the files can have names in any languages. Only Categories should be in English.

It is not a problem: you can add an English description. Our browser is searching both: in the filenames and in descriptions.

If you would like to change the name, don't change the language if you're not an original uploader.

That's all. Good luck :-) Wieralee (talk) 13:47, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

Moving

Btw of this and similar, yesterday Cat-a-lot gave me a persistent condition of error when I attempted to move the remainng 260 files in the old category; that's why I left the job unfinished. Have you experienced anything similar too? -- SERGIO ^{(aka the Blackcat)} 08:36, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

• @Blackcat: Yes, but only today. There was a message: an "anti-vandalism block" or something like that? Too many editions in time. Nonsense. I think it is good for IP users, but not for all. Wieralee (talk) 08:42, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Rozdzielanie grafik / Zna Pani kogoś kto się tym zajmuje ? / User "Sfu" zagląda tu już sporadycznie

File:Cewice, stara szkoła (Altes Schulgebäude).jpg

File:Nowogrodziec, kościół,.jpg

File:Skałki Twardowskiego w Krakowie.jpg

File:Molo in Sopot.jpeg

File:Góra Donas.jpeg

File:Sp1 Gubin.jpg

File:Młyn.jpeg

File:Prochenki,Gmina_Olszanka,Polska,UE. - panoramio - Roman_Eugeniusz (41).jpg

File:Prochenki,Gmina Olszanka,Polska,UE. - panoramio - Roman Eugeniusz (59).jpg — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.176.7.227 (talk) 23:51, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Spływ - panoramio.jpg 85.176.0.179 13:28, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

• @85.176.0.179: do rozdzielenia zdjęć potrzebne są uprawnienia administratora -- robi się to poprzez usunięcie pliku i odtworzenie każdej z wersji z osobna. Szczerze mówiąc, nie obserwuję swoich wniosków, ale mam niejasne wrażenie, że kolejka Category:Media_requiring_a_split_up co jakiś czas jest opróżniana ;-) Wystarczy umieścić w pliku u góry szablon {{split}} bez żadnych parametrów, by plik trafił do kolejki do rozdzielenia.

Przy okazji: bardzo proszę, unikaj kropek w nazwie pliku, czasami mi się obrywa za zaakceptowanie takiego wniosku :-)

Pozdrawiam, miłego dnia, Wieralee (talk) 13:43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Hola

Me gustaría hablar contigo. Un saludo. Brunhilda1984 (talk) 16:10, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

A mí también. Why don't we make a category for "X as food" (whatever the name of x is in English) instead of adding into Category:Eruca vesicaria subsp. sativa all the pics of a simple salad ingredient that we call "roka" in my country? Please take an initiative. --E4024 (talk) 07:32, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

• @E4024: I did my best, but I don't know if I guessed your wish ;-) Mutlu Yıllar! Wieralee (talk) 11:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Rename of foreign photos

Please do not rename any of my files. If you want to have another filename, you can upload it again. --Ralf Roleček 15:33, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Ralf Roletschek: I do not manage such renamings by myself. I'm a filemover -- and I fulfill requests if they are consistent with Commons:File renaming rules. The requester of this movement was User:Peulle. He had marked your file as a meaningless one => inconsistent with Commons:File naming policy. You can talk with him, you can talk to me, but if the names of your photos will not be precise and descriptive enough, they can always be renamed :-( Wieralee (talk) 16:42, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

Bad move

Please review en:Sunbeam Motor Car Company and then undo this move. Andy Mabbett (talk) 17:05, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Eddaido: can you tell us more about this movement reasons, please? Wieralee (talk) 17:14, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

petrol tank on a Sunbeam motorcycle

I will resile if I am pointed to photos of two or more cars or advertisements for cars showing this badge as being used for cars. Motorcycles and Cars are independent businesses after WWI with quite different owners. Prior to that they were independent businesses from 1905 though they may have had much the same (not identical) shareholders. Eddaido (talk) 19:59, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Eddaido: I don't understand :( Are you sure that the new name is accurate?

User:Pigsonthewing is sure that you are mistaken. Wieralee (talk) 20:13, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Now I don't understand. "I will resile if I am pointed to photos of two or more cars or advertisements for cars showing this badge as being used for cars." How can I be more clear? Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 23:32, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Eddaido: just tell me "yes" or "not", please: should this movement be undone? Wieralee (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

This movement must not be undone. I do not know why the editor has developed this opinion. It is completely mistaken. However in case I am mistaken I have asked for evidence to show I am mistaken. Have added a nice image from a motorcycle. Thanks Eddaido (talk) 23:47, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

• It is possible to get confused. Have a read of this: en:Sunbeamland Eddaido (talk) 23:54, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Scheduled Ancient Monuments -> Scheduled monuments

Why are you changing the terminology used by Historic Environment Scotland? has there been a discussion of this? Rodhullandemu (talk) 15:43, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Rodhullandemu: I do not manage such renamings by myself. I'm only cleaning redirected categories. This was User:Fuaran buidhe's decision. Maybe I should wait some time... If you would like, I can roll it back.
• @Fuaran buidhe: can you tell us more about this movement reasons, please? Wieralee (talk) 17:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Help for File:Informatin Page of PRC Seafarer's Passport (New).jpg

Please help me remove the old version of File:Informatin Page of PRC Seafarer's Passport (New).jpg because it contains privacy information which were not hidden very well. Thank you!--Whisper of the heart (talk) 18:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Ankry: Thanks for a help! Wieralee (talk) 23:56, 12 November 2016 (UTC

Guidon (In Spanish)

Both forms are correct, Guión or guion are correct. In Peninsular Spanish and Argentina, Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela ortographies guión has been correct, the rest of Spanish language countries use guion. Since 1999 Spanish Language International Agreement both forms are correct. For an international context I recomend you GUION without diacritic

Panhispanic Dictionary of Ortography Dudes (Coedited by all Academies of Spanish) at Real Academia Española website (Spanish Language Academy of Spain) [31]:

guion o guión. ‘Escrito que sirve de guía’ y ‘signo ortográfico’. La doble grafía, con o sin tilde, responde a las dos formas posibles de articular esta palabra: con diptongo (guion [gión]), caso en que es monosílaba y debe escribirse sin tilde; o con hiato (guión [gi - ón]), caso en que es bisílaba y se tilda por ser aguda acabada en -n. La articulación con diptongo es la normal en amplias zonas de Hispanoamérica, especialmente en México y en el área centroamericana; por el contrario, en otros países americanos, como la Argentina, el Ecuador, Colombia y Venezuela, al igual que en España, esta palabra se articula con hiato y resulta, pues, bisílaba. Debido a esta doble articulación, y con el objetivo de preservar la unidad ortográfica, en la última edición de la Ortografía académica (1999) se establece que toda combinación de vocal cerrada átona y abierta tónica se considere diptongo a efectos de acentuación gráfica. Por ello, en guion y otras palabras en la misma situación, como ion, muon, pion, prion, Ruan, Sion y truhan, se da preferencia a la grafía sin tilde, aunque se permite que aquellos hablantes que pronuncien estas voces en dos sílabas puedan seguir tildándolas.

Guion or guión. ' Written that it uses as guide ' and ' orthographic sign '. The double grafía, with or without diacritic, answers to both possible ways of articulating this word: with diphthong (guion [gión]), I marry in that it is monosyllabic and must be written without diacritic; or with hiatus (script [gi - ón]), I marry in that it is bisyllable and is labelled for being sharp ended in-n. The joint with diphthong is the normal one in wide zones of Spanish America, specially in Mexico and in the Central American area; on the contrary, in other American countries, as the Argentina, the Ecuador, Colombia and Venezuela, as in Spain, this word is articulated by hiatus and proves, so, bisyllable. Due to this double joint, and with the aim to preserve the orthographic unit, in the last edition of the academic Spelling (1999) It is found that any combination of closed unaccented vowel and opened keynote considers to be a diphthong to effects of diacritic. For it, in script and other words in the same situation, as ion, muon, pion, prion, Rouen, Zion and knavish, gives preference to the graphia without diacritic, though it is allowed that those speakers who declare these voices in two syllables could continue labelling (diacritic) them."

Regards--Heralder (talk) 01:00, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Heralder: but you have asked for rename: "guidon". Is it correct? Wieralee (talk) 01:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

• I made a mistake in English the small military flag is GUIDON guindon is wrong. I discovered it after I began to change the correct ones for this reason I reverted the first reversion petitions. I'm sorry--Heralder (talk) 01:16, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Renaming Spanish Military and Police Units

Ok thanks for your info. This and past year there are a lot and continuous changes of Spanish military and police Unit names, so it is not due, like other cases, for a mistake. In any case I'm sorry for the continuous changes. --Heralder (talk) 19:20, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Heralder: it's easier to rename from Criterion #1, that's all ;-) Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 19:32, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Disambigs

Hi Wieralee! Thanks for your kind message and your attention to my edits. I find no problem to undo that edit, but my intention is to avoid mistakes committed by Portuguese language editors, mainly the Brazilian ones, once that words are absolutely ambiguous here in Brazil. Regards, Sturm (talk) 17:39, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Sturm: you can add a description table inside the category, for example:

* {{en|This category holds pages and files about the state of [[São Paulo (state)|São Paulo]] in southeastern [[Brazil]].}}
* {{pt|Esta categoria reúne páginas e arquivos sobre o estado de [[São Paulo (state)|São Paulo]], [[Brazil|Brasil]].}}

Thanks, Wieralee (talk) 17:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

I mean... take a look, for example, Category:Praia. Its a category for the capital of Cape Verde, an island nation in the Atlantic Ocean west of Senegal, but its also a Portuguese word for "beach". Unfortunately, you will find more pictures for Brazilian beaches there instead of Cape Verde capital the ones. That's what I am trying to avoid moving that specific categories. Regards, Sturm (talk) 17:47, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

I know that small disambig, but nobody cares/read it. Everyone just see/respect the "autocomplete" for categories. Sturm (talk) 17:48, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Modification de catégorie

Bonjour,
Tu modifies Category:Église Saint-Germain de Grand-Nâves vers Category:Église Saint-Germain de Grand Nâves sans explication. Si je ne m'abuse la forme respectueuse des conventions typographiques des communes en France prend la forme avec un tiret (notamment : ici ou encore là) d'où ma correction. --B-noa (talk) 16:30, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Je viens de comprendre mon erreur, j'avais oublié de transférer la catégorisation. Mea Culpa. --B-noa (talk) 16:38, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Military trucks

I hope you can spend a second at "File:M135_Meskens_crop_2.jpg" (and others), so I understand (I was pretty tired last night). After I put the pics in a catagory, I changed the name of the cat, making all the pics wrong? You came through with a program that fixed them all in one shot? When you see one wrong, do you go to my contribs, or do the pics connect somewhere else? When I opened a cat would it be empty? When I opened a pic would the cat link have been red? (If one of those happened I would have noticed today). Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 15:51, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Sammy D III: sorry, I don't understand :(

You have chosen a redirection, not an existing category. All files in redirections have to be located in proper categories, that's all. I did it using Cat-a-lot option (you can switch it in your preferences). Wieralee (talk) 16:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I'm not clear. Those categories were good before I showed up and messed them up. I had a lot of uncategorized pictures, started there, and got carried away.

I don't think I did anything to any of the 5-tons, I had them ok a while ago. I did move other stuff from one category to another and even made a couple of categories. I have problems so I check a lot, they all looked good.

The last thing I did was to rename some categories, then I went to bed. I did not change the category name on the pictures themselves. Could this be where the "redirections" come from?

If one picture in a category is wrong, you check them all, that makes sense. But you found pictures from different categories. How? Do you see one wrong and check everything I have done, or are there some other connections between the categories?

Thank you for taking the time. Sammy D III (talk) 18:56, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• @Sammy D III: there's a bot report of errors: User:RussBot/category redirect log. Wieralee (talk) 20:01, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. Have a nice day. Sammy D III (talk) 20:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

File:Sea Tower - Gdynia - Gdańsk - Trójmiasto - Danzig 2007 - panoramio.jpg

Dzień dobry. Może Pani będzie w stanie pomóc. Od wielu lat porządkuje tu zdjęcia i kategorie (z przeróżnych IP) niestety coraz częściej dochodzi do konfrontacji z ludzkim debilizmem ... aż dziw bierze że tacy ludzie o takim poziomie "wiedzy powszechnej" otrzymali tu uprawnienia. Ile razy można takim "orłom" jak (user:Armbrust) tłumaczyć że Gdynia to nie Danzig (File:Sea Tower - Gdynia - Gdańsk - Trójmiasto - Danzig 2007 - panoramio.jpg), lub tego że do współczesnych fotografii dot. polskich miejscowości nie wpisuje się przedwojennej przynależności administracyjnej (File:Kuhstall in Tressin (Landkreis Greifenberg).jpg). Landkreis Greifenberg to byt historyczny (Powiat ziemski Gryfice) czyli coś zupełnie innego niż "powiat gryficki" i w dodatku posiadającego zupełnie inne granice niż przed wojną. Ale oczywiście "zagranicznej gimbazie" nazwa "Troszyn, obora (Kuhstall in Tressen)" się nie podoba ... bo gimbaza jest nieomylna dzięki uprawnieniom ? Kolejny "orzeł" to (user:Srittau - przedstawiciel "narodu wynalazców i artystów"), któremu trzeba tłumaczyć ... tak tak że bociany nie mieszkają w domkach i ich nie budują tylko w gniazdach, pewnie kolejny ekspert od niuansów jęz. polskiego, ale nie mnie mu "wiedzę" do upartego czerepu wlewać. Kolejny kwiatek tego "mędrca" (File:Hagenow Storchen Nest.JPG), pewnie niemiecki gimnazjalista zapomniał o tym że w jego kraju znajdują się tak miasto jak i gmina o nazwie "Hagenow", ale co tam przecież on wie lepiej (original name is correct). Kolejny przykład jest bardziej złożony, a utorem jest kolejny "geniusz" a zarazam przedstawiciel "narodu wynalazców i artystów" (User:Ulamm) - twóca kategorii [Category:"Belarusian" Gothic in Poland] ... czegoś co nie istnieje, był to wówczas gotyk litewski. W Polsce nie ma żadnego białoruskiego gotyku a wprowadzanie wymyślnych kategorii na podstawie kontrowersyjnych artykułów na wikipedii (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei%C3%9Frussische_Gotik) jest szerzeniem fałszywych informacji i propagandy w stylu ziomka usera:Ulamm, "doktora" Josepha Goebbelsa ("Kłamstwo wykrzyczane 100 razy staje się prawdą"). Podobnie ma się rzecz z białoruskim gotykiem na Litwie ... sprawdzałem w wydawnictwie Ossolineum "Zasięg gwar polskich, litewskich i żmudzkich na Litwie" ... obiekty litewskie tego "białoruskiego" gotyku leżą na obszarach gwar ... polskich i litewskich. Współautorem tego genialnego tworu jest (user:Чаховіч Уладзіслаў) to ten który wrzuca na łamy wikipedii commons portrety polskie szlachty (Sapiehów, Radziwiłłów, Potockich i setek innych ... podpisanych wbrew oryginałom (zawsze po polsku lub Łaciną) ... po białorusku (nawet te z polskich galerii). Kolejnym ciekawym kwiatkiem usera:Чаховіч Уладзіслаў jest ta oto kategoria: (Category:Belarus-Germany borderCategory:Belarus-Germany border) boczny przypis jest mojego autorstwa ... dziwi mnie to że do tej pory nikt z odpowiedzialnych nic z tym nie zrobił, przecież to bzdura do kwadratu ... a dla pana (Чаховіч Уладзіслаў) mrzonki o ponownym zainicjowaniu paktu Ribbentrop-Mołotow wiecznie żywe. Nie wiem do kogo to wszystko zgłosić a jest to dopiero czubek góry lodowej (osobnego rozdziału wymaga jeszcze radosna twórczość "narodu wynalazców i artystów" czy też "narodu potomków żołnierzy orkiestr pułkowych, formacji tyłowych, kucharzy i sanitariuszy"), może Pani ma jakiś pomysł do kogo się z tym zwrócić tak żeby sprawa się ruszyła. Idealnym rozwiązaniem byłoby wstawianie lub przekierowywanie wniosków o zmianę nazwy pliku (dot. Polski) na stronach polskich userów, którzy się tym zajmują. Szkoda czasu na tłumaczenie "oczywistych oczywistości" upartym stachanowcom lub oszołomom z uprawnieniami. pozdr. 85.176.0.149 12:53, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

• @85.176.0.149: Problem jest o wiele szerszy. I jest to problem zarówno techniczny, jak i mentalny...

Zajmijmy się najpierw technikaliami, bo to jest bardziej przejrzyste. To, jak się plik nazywa, nie ma żadnego znaczenia z punktu widzenia Commons. Dyskutuje się o tym, żeby w ogóle zabronić zmiany nazw :( Nazwa pliku jest na Commons rozumiana jako adres pliku i de facto podobnież "nie ma większego znaczenia". Całość informacji powinna być zawarta w opisie pliku i ten można dowolnie zmieniać. Wyszukiwarka Commons przeszukuje opis tak samo, jak nazwy i podobnież nie ma z tym problemu.

Jest trend, żeby ograniczać zmianę nazwy, jeśli nie wnioskuje o nią original uploader, gdyż zdarza nam się niestety, że przy zmianie nazwy pliki po prostu giną. Nie ma ich wtedy z czego odtworzyć. Original uploader zazwyczaj "posiada" oryginał i może go wgrać, ale my, removerzy takiego komfortu nie mamy. Robione są niby back-upy Commons, ale my, wolontariusze, nie mamy do nich dostępu, a wnioski zgłaszane na Phabrykatorze "wiszą" nierozwiązane latami... Przeżyłam już kilka razy historię, gdy uploaderzy pisali do mnie bardzo niemiłe pisma z pretensjami, gdy wgrane przez nich pliki zniknęły na zawsze tylko dlatego, że komuś się zachciało przestawić wyrazy w nazwie... a ja ten wniosek zaakceptowałam :(

Niby też każdy może edytować projekty Wiki, ale istnieje coś takiego, że użytkownik nie logujący się i edytujący spod IP traktowany jest jak ktoś, co robi coś złego, skoro nie chce odsłonić przyłbicy => zauważyłam, że wnioski o zmianę nazwy spod IP także traktowane są przez niektórych filemoverów gorzej...

Co do Niemców i ich pretensji do nazywania polskich miast przedwojennymi nazwami niemieckimi... próbowałam kiedyś coś z tym zrobić, co omal się nie skończyło moją blokadą. Niestety, nikt z Polaków mnie nie poparł, a Niemcy -- w ilości kilkunastu osób stanęli za sobą murem. Z drugiej strony -- my także wgrywamy pliki o nazwach "Wilno", "Mińsk" czy "Wiedeń" -- i nie widzimy w tym niczego złego.

Biorąc to wszystko pod uwagę -- póki Polacy nie utworzą jednolitej grupy -- i zaczną wzajemnie się popierać (i w ogóle zabierać głos, bo zazwyczaj jest to "poparcie milczące"), w pojedynkę nie wygramy z silnymi grupami niemieckimi czy francuskimi. Na Commons mamy demokrację -- i decyduje większość, która głosuje. Wieralee (talk) 13:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

• @85.176.0.149: myślę też o czymś innym... Jeśli utworzy Pan/Pani konto użytkownika -- i "uzbiera" trochę edycji, może Pan wnioskować o uprawnienia filemovera, które nadawane są na wniosek, o ile nie ma przeciwskazań. Wtedy będzie Pan/Pani mógł porządkować pliki samodzielnie, bez składania wniosku o zmianę nazwy. Będzie Pan/Pani odpowiadać wtedy jedynie przed uploaderami, którzy jednak mogą zawsze zakwestionować zmianę nazwy -- i przywrócić starą nazwę. Wieralee (talk) 14:09, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
• @85.176.0.149: To jest np. plik, który "zniknął" przed chwilą [32] Wieralee (talk) 14:12, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
  • Dziękuje Pani za odpowiedź. Jeżeli taka grupa polska na commons powstanie ... to chętnie zacznę działać jako osoba zalogowana, jednakże bez żadnych uprawnień, jestem już osobą starszą i zbytnio się cenię by prowadzić dyskusje z niemieckimi stachanowcami i potomkami brunatnej generacji "narodu potomków żołnierzy orkiestr pułkowych, formacji tyłowych, kucharzy i sanitariuszy" notabene dalej zadufanych w swej nieomylności i wyższości nad "untermenschami" lub "oświeconą młodzieżą pamiętnego roku 1968". Nie każda niemiecka nazwa jest zła ale te błędne typu "Gdynia to Danzig") zaakceptowane usera:Armbrust to już szczyt ludzkiej głupoty lub kategorie typu granica niemiecko-białoruska lub "białoruski" gotyk w Polsce i na Litwie. Proporcje stosowania nazw polskich na dawnych kresach i obszarze II RP w porównaniu z Niemcami są śmiesznie niskie ... u nas nikt nie wpadł na pomysł żeby tworzyć kategorie dla historycznych nieistniejących powiatów ... niemieccy stachanowcy owszem. Coraz częściej (jeszcze jako IP) wstawiają kompletne polskie kategorie (nawet te ze współczesnymi!!! plikami) pod "East Prussia" lub "West Prussia" gdzie miały znajdować się wyłącznie pliki godeł, flag, herbów prowincji i ewentualnie mapy. Co do demokracji ... to jest to raczej dyktatura "niemieckiej buty i tępoty". Cytat:"Co do Niemców i ich pretensji do nazywania polskich miast przedwojennymi nazwami niemieckimi" - miasta rozpoznawalne można zaakceptować, wioski z trzema drogami polnymi na krzyż już nie a przynajmniej nie w jedynej formie niemieckiej - patrz przykład z "Hagenow". Proszę wybaczyć mój ton ale po prostu przelało się i względem Niemców na pewno nie będę się już chować za parawanem ich poprawności politycznej. Pospolite stwierdzenia typu "polskie obozy koncentracyjne lub zagłady" wymyślone przez kryptoneonazistowski "Bundesnachrichtendienst" wbrew tego co słyszymy w Polsce osiągają coraz szersze spektrum. Kilka lat temu "niemieckie grupy milczącego demokratycnego wsparcia" na angielskojęzycznej wikipedii wystartowały kolejną promocję ich wizji historii przykład tu (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi%C4%85z%C3%B3w) a konkretnie zdanie: "After World War II the region was placed under Polish administration and ethnically cleansed according to the post-war Potsdam Agreement. The native German populace was expelled and replaced with Poles." Proszę szczególnie zwrócić uwagę na "ethnically cleansed / czystki etniczne" to obecnie największe zbrodnie na ludzkości i z tekstu jasno wynika że ... to my (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/80.136.84.99) - tu dalsze przykłady. Zmieniłem już setki edycji wprowadzając taką formułkę "evacuation command of german-nazi administration, escape before Red Army or expelled ? Please give accurate sources for exactly (!!!) this town /village" ... po czym grupa niemiecka ponownie revertuje. Jestem w stanie podać więcej przykładów. Na commonsie zostałem nawet zabanowany jako IP na pół roku przez "grupę niemiecką" za poprawianie kategorii typu "Built in XXXX" na "Built in XXXX in Poland" dla okresu 1772-1945 ... gdyż owe nieruchomości znajdują się w obowiązujących prawnie granicach Polski. Nie zamierzam Pani tu wciągać w kłopoty, może jednak zna Pani kogoś z polskiej Wikipedii, Commons lub angielskiej wiki kto mógłby pomóc i przyhamować grupy niemieckie. Nie zabieram Pani więcej czasu i dziękuję z góry za ewentualną pomoc. pozdr. 85.176.0.149 15:33, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Category:Bild_från_familjen_von_Hallwyls_resa_genom

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Discasto _talk 14:55, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Mass renaming Czech Republic → Czechia

Stop right now, please. Such mass moves should be made only after a consensus to do so is achieved in a public discussion. --Mormegil (talk) 14:18, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

• @Mormegil: OK. There's an official communicate that the the Czech Republic has changed its official name, so I see nothing to discuss. But no problem, I can stop. Wieralee (talk) 14:22, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

“Official name” is not an overall-overriding principle on Commons. Iran is officially “Islamic Republic of Iran”, but we don’t use that. Similarly, “Czechia” might now be “official”, but that does not mean we need to shuffle such a huge number of files and categories around. Cf. also all the discussions on enwiki. The huge question is what to do now. My opinion would be to revert everything to the original state and then possibly start a rename discussion. But the revert would be a lot of work. Are you willing to do that? --Mormegil (talk) 14:34, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

• @Mormegil: yes, I will, if necessary. Just tell me that I have to revert it -- and I will do it. Wieralee (talk) 14:38, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Do not hurry with renaming, do not hurry with needless reverts. We can be sure that an absolute consensus is absolutely not achievable. However, the heavily prevalent consensus is to prefer geographic (non-political) names (if exist) for country categories. Thus, there is a question, whether Czechia should fall under the general consensus, or the special counter-consenus for this "republican" exception should be supposed as persistent, or some special reasons. "Islamic Republic of Iran" is not an adequate analogy because it is not the non-political geographic name of the country of Iran. Even South Africa use the "short" name. Full political names are used if necessary to distinguish (two republics of Kongo, Central African Republic to distinguish from the broader region, Republic of Macedonia to distinguish from the whole Macedonia etc.). If the only reason is that some English-language speakers didn't notice Czechia yet and are not familiar with its official geographical name, such a reason should be not overvalued. --ŠJů (talk) 03:41, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas Wieralee!!
	Hi Wieralee, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on Commons!    –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 10:37, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

redukcja kurzu

Mogłabyś jeszcze wykonać redukcję kurzu w , , , , , ? Jakub Kaja (✉) 06:39, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

• @Jakubkaja: ok, zrobię to wieczorem. Robię to w jednym z bezpłatnych programów, jeśli chcesz poznać szczegóły, napisz do mnie na maila. Pozdrawiam, miłego dnia :-) Wieralee (talk) 09:30, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Ponczki.jpg

Witam, wbrew pozorom "po amerykańsku" było to całkowicie poprawnie -> en:Pączki#Etymology and pronunciation -> In English, paczki serves as both the singular and plural term, though some speakers use "paczkis" for the plural. Whereas sometimes the Polish spelling with the Polish letter ą is retained in English language publications, many sources anglicize to paczki.

Tak to bywa :). My lubimy spolszczać obcojęzyczne wyrazy np. nazwiska jak Szekspir lub: American-style doughnuts with a hole are sometimes known in Polish as donaty (co ma niewiele wspólnego z oryginałem) i często zapominamy, że działa to także w drugą stronę...

Pozdrawiam Electron ツ ➧☎ 12:10, 29 December 2016 (UTC)