Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/10

I'm Mohamed from Morocco and I want to sign up in your site Wikipedia

I'm not logged in but I wish 196.70.123.179 01:34, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Start here: Commons:First steps/Account (for Commons, the site you are on). Or, if you really meant "Wikipedia", en:Special:CreateAccount for Wikipedia in English, ar:ويكيبيديا:لماذا_إنشاء_حساب؟ for Wikipedia in Arabic. You can open an account on any of these, and it will work on the others. - Jmabel ! talk 03:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Did not recieve certificate of participation

I had participated in Wikimedia Commons: Living heritage through your lens, photography contest and successfully sent some pictures. A link was provided to recieve the certificate of participation, I filled it. But however i haven't recieved my certificate yet. It has been days. What should I do? Thank you. Photography0008 (talk) 07:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, you received one on your talk page over 10 days ago. Is this the one you are looking for? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

I finally recieved it. Thank you for your support! Photography0008 (talk) 15:11, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Sichtbarkeit von Dateien

Habe über Wikidaheim Fotos plus Beschreibung hochgeladen. Fotos etc sind aber bei Wikidaheim nicht sichtbar. Habe keine Option gefunden, die das Einbinden auf Wikidaheim ermöglicht - auch nicht bei den unzähligen Hochlade-Assistenten und Hilfeseiten. Bitte um Antwort - Danke! Wienerin1160 (talk) 15:29, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Visibility of files

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I uploaded photos and descriptions via Wikidaheim. But photos etc are not visible on Wikidaheim. I haven't found an option that allows you to integrate it into Wikidaheim - not even with the countless upload assistants and help pages. Please reply - thank you!

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 15:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Wienerin1160: Hallo und herzlich willkommen. Ihre Fotos befinden sich in Category:Media from WikiDaheim 2023 in Austria needing check und können verschoben werden, während die Jury ihre Arbeit erledigt.

Hi, and welcome. Your photos are in Category:Media from WikiDaheim 2023 in Austria needing check and may be moved around as the jury does the work.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 15:45, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

ich habe dir auf Fotos/Dateien, welche ich auf Wikidaheim hochgeladen habe erscheinen nicht auf dieser Seite geantwortet / replied on. lg --Herzi Pinki (talk) 20:28, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Image admissibility

I've read through the documentation on Wikipedia relevant to image uploads and licensing and I had pretty much convinced myself that "public domain" would fairly apply to the image I want to share, but when I used the Wizard at Commons, an explanatory diagram indicated a narrower definition of what can be accepted. Can someone help me determine whether and how this image should be submitted?

https://64.media.tumblr.com/2f65c8506132203ba6da7ead983ca3c1/34c504f68c98a0c7-ef/s1280x1920/23add087a49cff74ebc613276da95249e11a5401.jpg

It's all over the web; this is just one URL.

P.S. I would be uploading a cropped version of the image shown there.

Al Begamut (talk) 14:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Al Begamut: That would violate this license from Off The Map for Vince Muci's photo per this backgrounder.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 15:23, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

(edit-conflict) That image may be "widely available to the public", but that has nothing to do with a "public domain license". Unless you are the photographer, or the actual photographer has explicitly written that they are releasing it, or it is many decades old, it is not acceptable on commons. DMacks (talk) 15:24, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

@Al Begamut: I recommend reading public domain. And @DMacks: public domain is not a license. A license is granted by a rights-holder and grants certain subsidiary rights. For a public domain image, the rights are general, and no one in particular owns them. Jmabel ! talk 19:12, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

While it's obviously true that "public domain" is a status, rather than a license, it does affect licensing especially as pertains to commons policy. And "PD" tags are often explicitly referred to as "license" tags. DMacks (talk) 07:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading

Hotcat?AMC? Chica Scribbles Pages (talk) 10:20, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

what is the problem? --Herzi Pinki (talk) 14:30, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Use of an image

Hello, I'm interested in using an image for publishing that is listed as open domain. Is it possible to obtain a higher resolution image than what is available on the site for printing and/or publishing purposes? I'm sure I would have to contact the source, but in this case the source is listed as "Air service, United States Army photograph". Any way to get more specific with the source location? Geogan57 (talk) 13:03, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Geogan57: Hello, A search returns 610 images with the string "Air service, United States Army photograph". Anyway, many seem sourced from an history work available at the U.S. National Archives. You could see if your image is on their website and ask them if they have a better version. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

License for NAVA meeting flags

I made a SVG version of the flag of the 34th NAVA meeting (in Lansing, Michigan). I'm not quite sure what license to give the image. The Talk page for NAVA has 1 topic started by Zscout370 which claims that we "got authorization from NAVA to use the meeting flags, past and present, on Wikipedia." He also states that you "can use the license at Image:Flag of NAVA.svg on the images." Leopard969 (talk) 16:54, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Upload my copyrighted company logo

Hi, I am trying to upload my company logo to the sandbox page that I am working on but no luck. I have the necessary copyrights for the image I am uploading and need help on how can I do it. Thanks in advance for the help. Thakergroup (talk) 07:39, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@Thakergroup: Please do not upload such images; they're out of scope. You might wanna change your name too, as it indicates you're a paid editor, and you're not here to help the project. See the username policy for context. 20 upper 07:56, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@Thakergroup and 20 upper: actually the relevant username policy is Commons:Username policy. This is Wikimedia Commons, not the English-language Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 15:31, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

In particular, unlike the English-language Wikipedia, Commons does allow organizational names as account names, but you need to verify the account. Please see the page I linked in the previous comment. - Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Also, absolutely do read en:WP:COI (on conflicts of interest) and, as noted above, en:WP:Paid editing. You are likely to find yourself blocked on en-wiki if you don't overtly declare your conflicts of interest. Also, this account name should not be used on en-wiki, because while it can be "made good" by verifying on Commons, en-wiki simply does not allow such names. - Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Wizard Upload difficulties

I can't upload files or photographs anymore with the upload wizard. Before I was able to fix the issue by uploading a file by mobile after which the upload wizard seemed to work again, but now that doesn't work no more either. Can anyone help out? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:55, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I also tried the Basic Upload, it doesn't work either. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I found a work around, I need to upload the file from another computer, then it works. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 15:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

License review es valido

Buenas,que pasa si la Licencia Review (LicenseReview) es valido,por ejemplo File:Macrophage Polarization (M1 and M2 Macrophage).jpg ese file es chequeado y review por un administrador de Wikimedia Commons?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:06, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: el imagen estaba aceptado, el mismo como una foto tomada por quien lo sube. - Jmabel ! talk 23:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Can I upload a picture of a news article from a newspaper?

I have searched 'newspaper articles' and I see there are quite a few pictures of articles already uploaded but I want to be sure. I don't see it listed as an ok picture to upload and as it is not created by me I think it is best I ask first. Otari (talk) 04:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Most of those images of enrire articles are in the public domain due to copyright being expired. Beeblebrox (talk) 04:30, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess a news article from 1996 would still be subject to copyright? I have the photo (scan) of the article from the newspaper but I can't link to

the actual article on a website because the newspaper doesn't exist any more. Otari (talk) 04:36, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@Otari: Yes, an article from 1996 would almost certainly still be under copyright and most likely would not be allowed.

(Just to be clear, if you want to cite a news article as a source on Wikipedia, you don't need to link to an online version. All you need to do is provide bibliographic information such as the title, author, and date of the article, and the name of the newspaper.) Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 07:49, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. Otari (talk) 09:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Crear logos oficiales bajo mis derechos del autor

Buenas, se puede crear logos oficiales (laptop/computadora) bajo mis derechos del autor, es recomendable usar el Cc-Zero?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 11:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Es complejo. Primero: la mayoría de logos oficiales tienen derechos de autor, y no podemos aceptar ning&ucute;na versión (sería una "obra derivada" y los derechos de autor originales todavía se aplican). Otros son tan simples que no hay derechos de autor, y no tenemos ningúna razón para crear una ficha original: podemos usar el original.

Pero hay algunas veces cuando nosotras podemos usar algo por el estilo. Por ejemplo, para escudos de armas, típicamente el blasón es en el dominio p&ublico pero cada interpretación individual tiene su mismos derechos de autor. Estos rendiciones pueden ser útiles para Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 15:30, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I am the grandson of Zenon Bancer ( id pics included ) and I would like to post some pictures of my dear grandpa when he was still living. These are pictures of only my grandpa and no one else

I have a lot of pictures that would really make this profile https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenon_Bancer because his family for whatever reason has failed to do so. These are SFW pictures of my grandpa in the US (NYC in the late 80s and early 90s) When he was working for Marek Cecula https://ceramicartsnetwork.org/ceramics-monthly/ceramics-monthly-article/Marek-Cecula-Global-Clay-Prophet. Marek is a good man and he gave me a job at his Soho NY Prince st and Sullivan St ceramics studio in which I worked from the age of 16 until the age of 18. The reason why I didn't tend to my grandfather during his battle with blood cancer was because I was battling my own massive UTI infection and was unable to go from one hospital to another, I am sure his family has a different outake on the situation but it's mainly because my mother divorced their son Piotr BakBancer due to heavy cheating, and spousal abuse and child abuse but I regress. Anyway this is about my grandfather and not his family. Here are the pics of my state ID Poland and my disability ID Poland, I am a dual citizen of United States of America and Poland : https://files.catbox.moe/3tm0m9.jpeg and https://files.catbox.moe/ce1ond.jpeg I used a free upload pic service because I am unable to attach pictures to this question here at wikimedia,org RalphAB (talk) 12:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

@RalphAB: Hi, and welcome. I'm sorry for your loss. Who took those pictures of your grandpa? Did you inherit the copyright from that person?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 15:31, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

up a picture.

hola, perternezco a la hermandad de la Pastora de Capuchinos y no me deja subir una foto realizada por mi de la virgen. Buongiovanni (talk) 18:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

¿Como no? Usaba Commons:UploadWizard o otro método? Si no, esto sería lo más fácil y general. - Jmabel ! talk 19:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Crear y descargar Logos no oficiales

Buenas, se puede crear y descargar (hacer Upload) Logos de Alcaldias, Concejos Municipales, etc no oficiales bajo mis derechos del autor (por ejemplo desde mi laptop/computadora) AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:49, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: La respesta es la misma como yo te daba arriba para los escudos de armas. - Jmabel ! talk 22:26, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Ok,pero que pasa si la Alcaldia,Concejos Municipales usara mi logo no oficial,mi logo usará de forma permanente en Wikimedia??

AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:59, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Parece un caso hipotético extraño. ¿Te preguntas qué pasa si diseñas un logo no oficial y la Alcaldia y Concejos Municipales lo adoptan, pero sin hacerlo oficial? Su uso lo convertiría al menos en un logotipo "de facto", lo que estaría dentro del alcance Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 15:26, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Ok,gracias

AbchyZa22 (talk) 16:25, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Buenas, se puede descargar logos no oficiales pero inspirados por otros??

AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:19, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: ¿para qué? Si no se los utilicen en el mundo real, ¿como son educativas? ¿Como son en el alcance de Commons? - Jmabel ! talk 18:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Fixing images with undefined/incorrect colour space declarations

Hi. There are a few hundred uploads by User:ThailandPhoto that have the colour space undefined or incorrectly defined, resulting in weird colour rendering on many browsers. See the original version of File:Bangkok Benjakiti Park 2.jpg, for example, which shows up like this. It seems like the fix should be a fairly simple matter of editing the metadata to have the correct colour space declared, which should be possible to batch process using a command line application, but I have no idea how to actually do that. Any advice? (I previously asked at COM:BR, but given the lack of response there it seems some manual work is in order.) --Paul_012 (talk) 20:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Ah, it appears that these are CMYK Jpegs, which have limited support. Help:JPEG#Color model and Commons:Village pump/Archive/2016/10#JPEG files with CMYK colour profile both suggest that they'll need to be manually converted (with some unavoidable quality loss). Would still appreciate if someone knows a way to batch-process these. --Paul_012 (talk) 08:27, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

ImageMagick or GraphicsMagick will easily do this, but I don't know how to apply those to uploaded photos on Commons. I suspect it would mean download; convert on someone's computer; batch upload for the overwrite. - Jmabel ! talk 18:14, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

I uploaded a pdf document and I do not know why it has been deleted.

I an new user and I uploaded a a document on a new topic and I believed that I was not going against any of the regulations but it seems I have since my document has been requested fir deletion. I would like to know why and how I can get it back up. Could someone explain this to me please. Thank you. VolunteerKayla (talk) 09:48, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@VolunteerKayla: The file (File:The Baytree Centre Wikipedia Page.pdf) was nominated for deletion because it's not the kind of thing that Commons is for. Specifically, Commons:Project scope explicitly excludes "Encyclopedia articles" and "Files that contain nothing educational other than raw text". File:The Baytree Centre Wikipedia Page.pdf is both of those, so it's not something that should be hosted on Commons. --bjh21 (talk) 10:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Bjh21 Thank you for your reply! I understand now but is there another part of Wikipedia where I could upload it where I would not be violating any regulations? VolunteerKayla (talk) 14:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@VolunteerKayla: As Omphalographer explained to you twice on Commons:Deletion requests/File:The Baytree Centre Wikipedia Page.pdf, if you want to create a Wikipedia article, you'll have to do that on Wikipedia, following Wikipedia's procedures. For the English Wikipedia, en:Help:Your first article is the place to start reading about that. You'd need to (1) be confident that your subject is notable as defined by Wikipedia and (2) write the article in Wikipedia rather uploading a PDF file. If your subject isn't notable, then there's no place on Wikipedia for an article about it. --bjh21 (talk) 16:17, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Upload problem

A file from iNaturalist I uploaded File:Pinus roxburghii, Punakha, Bhutan 1.jpg is having display problems; I've tried uploading it 4 times now, and each time, the top version is broken, and the previous versions show thumbnails with the previous upload's thumbnail appearing. When uploading, it kept on giving error warnings (can't remember exactly what, a load of gibberish!!). Can anyone solve it, please? Thanks! - MPF (talk) 22:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Seems to have resolved itself, the pic is showing now

Resolved

I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. MPF (talk) 23:27, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Befuddled!

I search for Pablo Casals and get a stream of unrelated images. Worse, attempting to use the 'search' windows does not help, and the 'slide show' feature seems to have disappeared. I want images of Pablo Casals {the cellist} taken in Israel in 1973: how do I go about searching for them? Cheers! Shir-El too (talk) 19:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Shir-El too Have you looked at Category:Pau Casals? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

No, I haven't. Will try again and see what happens. Cheers! Shir-El too (talk) 19:39, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much! However, there is too much room for confusion. Some images did come up under 'Pablo Casals' - so shouldn't there be a link or notice to also search under 'Pau Casals'? That may have been his birth name, but it WASN'T the name he was most known by. Cheers! Shir-El too (talk) 19:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

If you had looked at Category:Pablo Casals, you would have found that it is a redirect to Category:Pau Casals. There's more than one search tool on here, so I don't know which one you are configured to use, but only a handful of people have any control over what results the search engines produce. That's one of the reasons that, besides using a search engine, it is often really worth going straight for any obvious category: categories are curated by humans, and some things humans often do better than computers. - Jmabel ! talk 21:03, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Shir-El too: FWIW, when I search on "Pablo Casals" the first hit I get is the page Pau Casals, which would take me at one further click to Category:Pau Casals. Did you have that page at the top or your result and ignore it, or are you on a different search engine that did not give you that page as a first hit? - Jmabel ! talk 21:06, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: I honestly don't remember. Using the link @Gråbergs Gråa Sång sent me I did find specific results, though not what I hoped to find. Maybe I'm too spoiled by Google and DuckDuckGo: they're easy to use. Thank you anyway, and Happy Helping! Cheers! Shir-El too (talk) 08:43, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

video

Hello,how to upload a video in (avi)format to Wikipedia?Regards Viktoras Vinogradnas Viktoras Vin. (talk) 19:49, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

With Video2Commons, but the tool is currently HS. Commons only accepts free formats, so only WEBM and OGG. You can use f.e. [1] to convert your video. Yann (talk) 19:54, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Yann: I have no idea what you mean by "HS", so I'm going to guess the user won't know either. - Jmabel ! talk 21:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Hors service ? : not functional. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, sorry for the acronym. Yann (talk) 18:58, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Hidden categories

Often in the "Categories" box at the bottom of images I see so-called "hidden" categories, e.g."CC-BY-SA-4.0" and "Self-published work". These are in a slightly smaller font, but patently they are NOT hidden, since they are displayed. So, in what sense are they "hidden"? Just curious. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 22:25, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@ITookSomePhotos: They are hidden for those who are not logged in. Also, if you are logged in you can set a preference to not show them (Appearance → Show hidden categories). Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 02:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

OK, thanks. ITookSomePhotos (talk) 19:50, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

how do i know if a picture is copywrite or not

im trying to upload a picture but idk if its copywrite or not Ilovespeaknow (talk) 05:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ilovespeaknow The rule of thumb is that any random picture you find online probably can't be used on Commons. Details at Commons:Licensing. A more detailed answer needs more details. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:20, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

If this means trouble, it might have to be removed...

Dear team, I just started contributing and theres one image that might be a problem. I attended a WikiCon in Austria and we had the permission to take pictures at a museum we visited. I took a picture of a picture which was on display there and shows a Tardigrada. The picture was taken with the help of an electron microscope and would be excellent to illustrate what is possible in this realm. What to do now? Call the muesum and ask for official permission - and a name to be published with the picture? Delete it to keep out of trouble? I'm not an expert regarding all the copyright and licensing stuff, so I ask for your opinion. If you think speedy removal is the only option, let me know what would have to be done in preparation to allow the display of pictures taken of exibitions (which permit fotos to be taken). Thank you in advance, best Llydia

This is the picutre I spoke about: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:400-fache_Vergr%C3%B6%C3%9Ferung_eines_B%C3%A4rtierchens_(Tardigrada).jpg Llydia (talk) 08:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

@Llydia: you'd probably do better to ask that at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 15:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Remove new versions of photo?

Graphic content warning. I tried to upload a new version of this image with blurring on the genitals, however, didn't realise this was actually going to override it, so I reverted. Is it possible to remove my version and the revert, so it is restored to the original file? Zenomonoz (talk) 03:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Zenomonoz: You can revert to a specified version by clicking "revert" in the file history table. The file looks like it's back to the original version to me, so you don't need to do anything further. (It's OK for the history to have mistakes in it.) If you want to upload a censored version of the photo, you can put {{own based|Self Fisting.jpg}} in the source field. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 05:43, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I managed to do it. If you have time, please check I did it correctly in case some of the image details are wrong. Zenomonoz (talk) 05:59, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Zenomonoz: Looks good! —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 18:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Rulers Without Numbers or Units Considered Harmful

please pardon the voice dictation on my mobile device.

I've been browsing images such as this,

, and as you can see, this biomedical photo helpfully includes a ruler for scale.

I found at least one other, where enough of the ruler markings were visible that I could suss out the units I needed to know, but I was wrong on the first guess.

Therefore, I humbly suggest that incomplete rulers or measuring apparatus that does not fully declare its units and scale are rather confusing to viewers and may result in incorrect interpretations. Might as well use a subway or laundry token.

We are an international operation, and there are chiefly two units of measuring distance in use, so we do have a 50/50 chance of getting it right, but why the ambiguity?

Proposals: catalog all such images we can find; place errata in the image descriptions, wherever possible, and if completely ambiguous, then we will notify the uploader, who may know more background or context. in the likely event that an uploader is not responsive, let's crop these rulers out of images, so they cannot confuse, and they cannot tarnish the image's artistic/educational aesthetic.

Elizium23 (talk) 11:20, 5 October 2023 (UTC) Elizium23 (talk) 11:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Elizium23: Generally, metric rulers I have seen have gradations of 10 and imperial rulers have gradations of multiples of 2, but this one has 5. Perhaps @Hardwareonkel could comment on the ruler for that photo, or we could guess at metric given their use of the German language.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: You're not looking quite hard enough. At the top edge of the image, half of the larger ticks extend off the edge of the image, and half of them stop just barely short of the edge, so it is actually marked in groups of ten, subdivided into fives. I expect they're millimetres, but I've got at least one ruler marked in tenths of an inch, so I wouldn't be entirely confident. --bjh21 (talk) 16:12, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

that's perfect... problem solved, I mean no problem close thread Elizium23 (talk) 06:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@Elizium23 The ruler is in Millimeter so the largest fragment is about 8mm. I have been provided with this material beeing put into a little plastic tube with glycerin inside. I wanted to keep it but recognized, the are falling apart. This leads me to the assumption that this "stones" were one a larger part as they were still in the gall bladder. Most probably they were larger because at least 5-8 particles are not on the photography but fell off from another larger part before. Unfortunately I do not have a larger photo at the moment. Maybe I can find the orginal somewhere. Hardwareonkel (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

upload photo for my page

I created a Turkish Ned Luke page n i must upload Ned Luke's twitter-x pp to wikipedia but i cant... I wanna do, i should do this. Ceyhunnn K (talk) 08:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ceyhunnn K No you shouldn't. Just because a picture is online/on twitter, it doesn't mean it's acceptable on Commons or Wikipedia. "We" have basically 2 ways to "get" a picture of a living person like Ned Luke, either someone takes a picture of him with their own camera and uploads it on Commons themselves, or Ned Luke takes a selfie and uploads it on Commons himself. We can't just take nice-looking pics and use them, the photographer (in some cases, their employer) has to give their clear permission. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I cant add it. I trier to add his twitter link, fail. Download n tried to add n fail again. Link is: http$://images.app.goo.gl/oo9hAdVfU2yaeZVD7 of photo. Could u show me how to do pls?

-Thanks in advance.

(i added $ for s on the link bcoz of google block.) Ceyhunnn K (talk) 09:32, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Like I said, we can't use that. Laws and copyright. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:46, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Well ok. So it must be from a camera not from a link huh? How about downloading n uploading, changing name of the pic (in gallery n wikipedia)? Ceyhunnn K (talk) 15:16, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ceyhunnn K: No. That's like asking, "Is it OK if I steal something as long as I hide the fact that I'm stealing?" Copyright is a form of ownership. We don't post images that someone else owns the rights to and hasn't granted a free license. - Jmabel ! talk 15:39, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Ahh ok i see but please just help me at this thing. Without a pic the page looks like didnt developed n empty. U got it? Thanks! Have a nice day. Ceyhunnn K (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Many pages of living people do not have photos. This is a pretty common situation. There are a lot of people in the world, including a lot of famous people, for whom there is no picture that is either free-licensed or in the public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Just like Rock always breaks Scissors, preventing copyright infringement always overrides coolness. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Stop charging me

I did not ask for this. You charged my account. Lauren Tallman 2600:8801:118E:C900:619A:25B5:CF09:1F04 22:08, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I can assure you, Commons did not "charge" you. We do not even have a mechanism for doing such a thing. If someone who in some way charged you pretended to be Wikimedia Commons, it was pure and simple fraud. Plus, you are not posting here from any account, so there is no way here for anyone to work out if there was suspicious activity related to your account, whatever account that might be. - Jmabel ! talk 23:15, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Was your account charged by "Wikimedia" (the Wikimedia Foundation)? If so, you may have been asked to make a donation while browsing Wikipedia. If this is the case, please e-mail donate@wikimedia.org to ask about canceling a recurring donation. The Wikimedia Foundation owns and operates Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons (this site), and other related websites, but it is separate from the community of volunteers that provides assistance here. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 13:11, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Can I upload an image of an old exam paper?

I have photocopies of several exam papers dating from 1962. They were organised by the local authority for school leavers below the age of taking national exams and don't feature any logos, images or other decorations. Would I be able to upload photographs of them here? Llewee (talk) 23:25, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

• In short, it depends. If they are out of copyright and within project scope they could be uploaded here. What country? Copyright regulations vary in different countries. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 23:47, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
  • Infrogmation the UK--Llewee (talk) 13:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Can't upload video to Wikimedia Commons

I wanted to upload a video of the USSR anthem from 1943, but every time I try to upload it, it always says, "This file did not pass file verification". Where do I go to get my file verified? HELP!!!!!!!!! :((((((((((((( ILoveDenpaMen48 (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

• @ILoveDenpaMen48: In what format is the video? What tool are you using to upload it? - Jmabel ! talk 05:17, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

  mpeg ILoveDenpaMen48 (talk) 18:09, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

  I even converted it to other supported formats like .ogg and .webm, but nope! ILoveDenpaMen48 (talk) 18:21, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Attribution of a photo I just uploaded, plus entering it in this months silhouette challenge

I just uploaded a photo I took of the August 21, 2017 total solar eclipse in Nashville, Tennessee and would like to allow free use, but only with attribution. How do I do that?

Plus, I would like to enter in it for this month's challenge of silhouettes. How do I do that? MarthaLu42 (talk) 04:21, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@MarthaLu42: It looks like you already have given a license that allows free use, with attribution. See Template:Cc-by-sa-4.0 for how to modify that so that you can specify the name you want attributed (otherwise, people will probably just use MarthaLu42, since that's all they've got to work with).

Assuming you are on a computer, at the bottom of Commons:Photo challenge/2023 - October - Silhouettes, first read the instructions, then hover your mouse where it says, "[To submit your picture to the challenge click the link below]". I think from there (if you've already read the instructions) it should be obvious. - Jmabel ! talk 05:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, Anyone Can Be a Model

Article on Slate, for the interested, several specific pics mentioned (there may be a template for that). Does Commons have something like Wikipedia:Press coverage 2023, btw? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:48, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

We have {{Published}} for pictures that are actually used, but I don't think we have anything for pictures that are merely linked to. - Jmabel ! talk 16:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Public social media image

Hello, I've had an image deleted that I assumed would be okay. It's an image from a persons public social media. The press has already used images from the subjects public social media. Press guidance states images in a person public social media (not protected by privacy settings) can be used. See https://www.ipso.co.uk/media/1510/social-media-public.pdf so am I allowed to upload and use an image from someone's public social media for an article on here ? FashionLover66 (talk) 12:00, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@FashionLover66: There are stricter rules regarding copyright here: licensing policy. In short, images uploaded here must be free to use by anyone, for any purpose (including commercial purposes). Simply being made public on social media is not sufficient. There must be explicit permission from the copyright owner (likely the photographer) that complies with those rules. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 12:54, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

It does say if you make an image public on social media you are putting it into the public domain, which makes it free to use ? FashionLover66 (talk) 13:31, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Negative. Being "available to the public" is not the same as public domain. Public domain is a legal term that deals with intellectual property rights. GMG^talk 13:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@FashionLover66: That document uses the expression "public domain" in some general sense meaning publicly available. It does not use it in the particular sense it has in reference to copyright, which means an absence of copyright. The document explicitly does not address anything about copyright. See its page 9. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I've been blocked

i've created an account because I've been blocked. But I am still blocked. 174.216.148.86 15:35, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

If you were blocked on this site, you shouldn't be creating a new account, nor should you be posting without logging in, as you are doing right now. The only thing you should be doing is making an unblock request, with explanation of why you should be let back in, on the talk page of the blocked account. - Jmabel ! talk 16:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

How to remove images from the wrong category?

I detected that "Category:Saint-Barthélemy", which is supposed to contain media related to the caribbean island with this name, also contains some images related to a village in Switzerland called "Saint-Barthélemy VD", which obviously don't belong there. How can I help to fix this? Fx42 (talk) 19:47, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@Fx42: At the bottom of the description page of each image, replace "Category:Saint-Barthélemy" with "Category:Saint-Barthélemy, Switzerland". -- Asclepias (talk) 20:02, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Publishing a page

I have a local middle school that doesn’t have a Wikipedia page yet, the local high school has one however, how do I contribute to make a page??? Hi 2600:8805:A809:5800:E158:9DC4:2BAC:7F57 23:04, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

• You would probably do better to ask that question on the help desk of the relevant Wikipedia; you've asked at the help desk of Wikimedia Commons, and we really can't give you a solid answer to that. I'm assuming from the fact that you are writing in English that you mean the English-language Wikipedia; its help desk is en:Wikipedia:Help desk. - Jmabel ! talk 03:06, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Photo owned by an organization

If an organization holds the copyright to a photo, can they upload it to Wikimedia Commons and if so how do they go about it? Can any member of the organization upload the photo even though they personally didn't take the photo? Would they use the standard upload wizard? Fracton (talk) 01:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Fracton: If it is clear why they would own the copyright, they can first publish it on their own web site and indicate the relevant license there. Then anyone, connected to the organization or not, can upload citing that as a source.
• If that is not practical, or it is the sort of thing where they are likely to need to show proof of how they came to own the copyright, they should go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to provide a clear release of rights via email. This may end up requiring some correspondence back and forth to clarify the situation. - Jmabel ! talk 03:10, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

  Regarding the first option, would it be sufficient to put a sentence at the bottom of a webpage saying: "The image files on this page are hereby licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International" ? Fracton (talk) 20:03, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Fracton: Should be. Then cite that page as a source when uploading. The only difficulty would be if someone has reason to doubt that organization legitimately holds the copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks! Fracton (talk) 21:54, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Mystery change

Can anyone tell me what User:FrescoBot is changing [2] here? I can detect from the page source that it is something between "[[Category:Whitmore Hall (Sheldon Jackson College)" and the two square brackets that follow, but what? - Jmabel ! talk 19:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

A left-to-right mark. Found by pasting the string of characters into Commons:User scripts/Invisible charaters. -- Asclepias (talk) 02:26, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Missnamed File:Waterfalls in Berhtesgaden.jpg

According to the coordinates given, the location is far West of Berchtesgaden (which is in the Berchtesgaden Alps/Berchtesgadener Alpen), namely in the community of Kreuth (which is in the Mangfall mountains/Mangfallgebirge). So the name should be changed. Accordingly, I did already change everything seemingly wrong except the file name. But if the coordinates and the Category:FFH-Gebiet Mangfallgebirge anterior to my changes are both wrong, it's the other way round. --Silvicola (talk) 20:18, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Internal error when uploading audio file

I received an error that prevents me from updating the upload of my fileː here. It says [176da193-efc3-43bd-862a-27affe7961fe] 2023-10-07 13:33:01: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBUnexpectedError". This is the second time this has happened.

I've researched online, and as far as I know don't see the specific factor that triggered this server issue. I use the Brave browser, only have one extension (Google Translate), and the upload is 6.91MB, which isn't that big for an OGG file. Requesting assistance. SuperWIKI (talk) 00:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@SuperWIKI: That looks like a bug, please see mw:How to report a bug.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 03:07, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Screenshot of a report, CC BY 3.0 PL DEED

How would I go about uploading a screenshot of fig. 1? The sidebar states the compatible license, though, I don't know if I can upload a screenshot from a part of the doc. Thank you in advance! NotAGenious (talk) 15:58, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: } All I see is "Rights Reserved - Free Access", which means you are welcome to read it, but not to reuse it. What am I missing? - Jmabel ! talk 16:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Click on More. NotAGenious (talk) 16:24, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Rights:

Creative Commons Attribution BY 3.0 PL license

Terms of use:

Copyright-protected material. [CC BY 3.0 PL] May be used within the scope specified in Creative Commons Attribution BY 3.0 PL license, full text available at: ; - NotAGenious (talk) 16:25, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: In the absence of indication otherwise, it can be assumed that the free license applies to the figure. The free license should allow you to reuse the part you want. The template on Commons is Cc-by-3.0-pl. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Would there be a specific template I need to use, to indicate that I took a screenshot of a part of the paper? NotAGenious (talk) 12:23, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Existing screenshot templates seem to be for other types of situations. But, if you want, you can write a note in the page and place the file in one of the screenshot categories. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:12, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Just a note: Since the paper is available in PDF, I think it'd be better to extract the image from the document directly. However, when I tried to do this the colors were wrong (something to do with color profiles? I'm not very knowledgeable in this area), and my attempts to fix it were unsuccessful. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 03:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

I tried to extract the photo, but I lost some quality there, so I thought that a screenshot would probably be at least a bit better. NotAGenious (talk) 12:24, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: What would you want to call it? I managed to consult Commons:Extracting images from PDF#Extracting images from PDF and use Semadox PDF Image Extractor to get a 438 x 952 pixel png file. That should be converted to jpg for sharp display on our projects per phab:T192744.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 04:09, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G. Fantastic! The name would be Carcinocephalus szujeckii. NotAGenious (talk) 07:32, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: I present File:Carcinocephalus szujeckii.jpg.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:45, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks for your help! :) NotAGenious (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: You're welcome!   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:15, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

The XML in the uploaded file could not be parsed.

I'm getting this error while trying to upload a 20mb map file to commons. The problem seems to occur after I place the .png map base into the svg. Any advice? Ecrusized (talk) 21:34, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ecrusized: Hi, and welcome. "Using SVG as just a wrapper is undesirable" per {{Fakesvg}}.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 03:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

File:Ciel rouge avant la tempête Philippe.jpg

Bonjour, un utilisateur a proposé la suppression de ce fichier car il manque des informations comme le META ainsi que la date et la provenance de la photo. Or, je suis bien l'auteur de cette photo. Je voudrai retélécharger le fichier car je ne comprends pas pourquoi les informations ne sont pas apparues. Mais, lorsque j'essaie de le faire, un message me dit que le fichier existe déjà ? Bref, comment puis-je faire ? Cordialement. Enrevseluj (talk) 00:06, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Enrevseluj: Bonjour, Bien oui, le fichier existe déjà. Pourquoi le retéléverser ? Si c'est seulement pour ajouter des métadonnées comme celles de «File:Ciel rouge avant la tempête Philippe (Guadeloupe).jpg», qui ne semblent pas correspondre à la photo mais possiblement à la copie, ça ne vaut peut-être pas l'effort. Par ailleurs, si la photo est l'oeuvre de votre femme, pourquoi vous en attribuer le crédit ? -- Asclepias (talk) 02:17, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Bonjour, ma femme ne participe pas aux projets Wikimedia mais je lui demande parfois de m'envoyer des photos qu'elle prend pour enrichir les projets. Cela fait 15 ans que je suis ici, je trouve étrange cette suspicion qui apparaît d'un coup pour une photo prise de chez nous et dont je n'explique absolument pas pourquoi les données META n'apparaissent pas. Je ne sais pas comment on modifie ces fameuses données. Après si tout cela fait une affaire alors que cette affaire n'a absolument pas lieu d'être, tant pis, je trouve çà dommage car il m'a semblé important de saisir ce phénomène météorologique, mais j'ai autre chose à faire que de perdre mon temps pour une photo qui, pour la première fois de mes 15 ans ici, semble lever des suspicions. Cordialement. Enrevseluj (talk) 22:58, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

which file extension does this platform use

which file extension does this platform use? Bestonlinecareer (talk) 07:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Bestonlinecareer: Mostly jpg, but see COM:FT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Question about renaming/re-labeling photo

Question on how to go about with an erronously labelled photo.

File:AS09-23-3511.jpg

File:AS09-23-3511 (22038475332).jpg

1969 photo taken by the Apollo 9 mission. The description (probably provided by NASA itself at the time?) says it shows the Hindu Kush mountain range. In this function it is also used on the Wikipedia, i.e. on the Hindu Kush article for 3 languages including the English wikipedia. After trying (and failing) to align this photo to available topographic maps and sat images, I at some point realized it does not show the Hindu Kush range at all. It shows the Namcha Barwa Himal range, which is the easternmost outlier of the Himalayan range. The Hindu Kush, which is the westernmost outlier of the Himalayan range, is more than 2000 km away and not at all visible in this image. Should I just edit the description and remove the picture from the 3 Wikipedia articles? D-M (talk) 08:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done on Commons. Yann (talk) 09:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

http://v3.boldsystems.org/index.php/Public_RecordView?processid=SICOC449-18#

Who would you describe as the author of this photo? NotAGenious (talk) 09:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

This URL doesn't load for me. Yann (talk) 09:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious: The license holder is Smithsonian Institution, meaning they're the author. 20 upper 09:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I thought that I needed a specific name, but good to know that the institution is enough. NotAGenious (talk) 09:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@NotAGenious and 20 upper: actually, the photography credit on that page is more specific: "CBG Photography Group, Smithsonian Institution". - Jmabel ! talk 17:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Kirby

I took a picture of a Kirby statue in Japan at the Kirby Café. Can I upload the photo? Redjedi23 (talk) 09:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Redjedi23 As in [3]? Per COM:FOP Japan, I don't think so. I think you can upload a picture of the cafe exterior, if you have one and want to. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Similiar like that Redjedi23 (talk) 10:02, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

No, that's an interior, an probably doesn't even count as "public". Sorry. Note that the Japanese WP-article on Kirby [4] has no "live" pics of him at all. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:14, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

mogelijke verzending en eventueel de prijs van verzending

Geachte,

Ik zit met het probleem dat er niemand die uw inmaakkookketels wil versturen naar USA. Mijn zus woont daar en is Belgische. Ze heeft de traditie nog van het inmaken maar in Amerika kan ze deze ketels niet vinden. Ze moet het nog altijd op de ouderwetse wijze doen, op een gasvuur. Ik kan deze wel versturen met de post maar dat kost meer dan het produkt dat ik zou aankopen. Heeft u misschien een geschikte oplossing? Als jullie naar daar importeren zal dit wel altijd in grote hoeveelheden zijn en als jullie er zo een ketel zouden bijstoppen zou dit voor mij ook veel voordeliger zijn.

Vriendelijke groeten,

Bruyneel Nadia 2A02:1812:1D23:B200:8DB:E45B:51F3:890B 09:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello. This is a page to ask about how Wikimedia Commons works, so I think you're in the wrong place. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:59, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Can someone check that a file isn't copied

Specifically, this file from this geolocked website Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 14:39, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jo-Jo Eumerus: I tagged it as a copyvio for you.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

How do I propose that an illustration be replaced?

Map at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Scottish_Highlands_and_Lowlands.png does not correctly depict topography of Scotland. The lowlands is falsely depicted Tamatwi (talk) 08:45, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@Tamatwi Well, the creator hasn't edited since 2013, so that doesn't help us. You may want to seek input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland. If you do, try to be more specific to help others understand the problem. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

@Tamatwi Probably the right way to handle this is:

• Use {{Fact disputed}} on File:Scottish_Highlands_and_Lowlands.png, with an explanation of your issue. Obviously, any specific sources you can cite on the matter will be helpful.
• Upload your own version under a distinct filename. Again, citing sources is a good thing
• On Wikipedia, on the talk page of the article in question, propose changing out the map in favor of your version. Or make the edit yourself, and explain on the talk page. - Jmabel ! talk 15:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

borrado página Jvlivs

He borrado la página que subí y he creado una nueva. Espero que estos cambios sean suficientes para poder subir la página OK. Ventodeoutono (talk) 09:26, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ventodeoutono: El problema acerca de File:Jvlivs.pdf no era el texto en la página del wiki. La ficha misma era fuera de la alcance de Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

#flickr2commons

Why does this program act in this way? Some of the files I uploaded lack a license. Is there a bug here? 20 upper 17:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@20 upper: I'm not certain, but I'm guessing it is because PD-mark isn't a valid license on Commons. It's a statement, without rationale, that "This work has been identified as being free of known restrictions under copyright law, including all related and neighboring rights." We require a rationale for a file being PD. (Note that someone can effectively put their own work into the public domain on Flickr by marking it with CC-0, but that's a different thing.) - Jmabel ! talk 17:58, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, that's the reason. The flickr image has a vague PDM tag instead of a specific tag. Commons accepts it at certain conditions, but it requires a check of the facts, a specific rationale and an additional step by a license reviewer. This case looks fine and the uploader can use the template:PD-author-FlickrPDM. License review can take a long time, but the file should be fine if it has a proper tag. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:39, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

I am having extreme difficulty uploading a jpeg file

I recently tried to upload a file. BUT, I made an error in the SPELLING of ISRAEL. I CANNOT correct it. Also I have recently changed my email address. (You have corrected the change) HOWEVER, after re-registering and a NEW member and trying again it BLOCKED my upload as already uploaded (with my old name and password. NOW I cannot FIX ANYTHING. Stuck in Limbo.... John John Wiwjorra (talk) 21:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

@John Wiwjorra: Without the name of the file or of the old account, I have no chance of sorting this out. This account has no prior edits on Commons (not even deleted edits). In the future: misspelling is not a good reason to delete a file. Files can easily be renamed, that is what {{Rename}} is for. - Jmabel ! talk 22:27, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Try John Webber CET John Wiwjorra (talk) 01:40, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Convenience link User:John Webber CET. - Jmabel ! talk 02:15, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

File:ISREAL HISTORY.jpg? Clearly out of Commons:Scope. Things like that simply do not belong here. - Jmabel ! talk 02:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Profile Picture

Hi, I am writing a wikipedia article about someone and I want to add an image of them to the article. All I could find was a profile picture on researchgate which I would like to add. Am I allowed to upload it to Wikimedia Commons, or should I find another way?

Regards, WanderingWolf WanderingWolf1 (talk) 04:16, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@WanderingWolf1: Hi, and welcome. You can probably not upload that picture; please read COM:NETCOPYRIGHT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 04:38, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Jeff G is correct, but is this someone alive? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:31, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Create paints of Holy Martyrs in my copyright

Can you create painting from photos of holy martyrs, for example Saint Joan of Arc in my copyright?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:06, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Paintings even if made based on photos will probably be considered original works protected by copyright. They are not slavish copies. Ruslik (talk) 19:13, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Derivative works potentially involve two copyrights, one for the original work and one for the newly introduced material. If the original work is in the public domain, then the legal status is entirely the same as if your work had been wholly original.

Note, though, that Commons is not intended as a general web host, and most user-created artworks are considered out of scope. - Jmabel ! talk 19:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Account

it's not letting me create an account DirtyJ84 (talk) 20:20, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@DirtyJ84: You already have an account. Why do you want more? Yann (talk) 21:24, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading original map that uses google satellite in background

Am I able to upload an original distribution map that I have created, that uses google satellite as the background. I am wanting to add a observation map for a species page that I am editing. AriLyd (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

@AriLyd: Nope. The Google Satellite content is copyrighted, making your file a derivative work. - Jmabel ! talk 02:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Descargar escudos de Armas con licencia libres

Buenas se puede crear y descargar (hacer Upload) escudos de Armas oficiales pero con licencias libres (por ejemplo escudos de Armas del Estado Barinas, Venezuela)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 09:33, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

• @AbchyZa22: Si la licencia es legítima, sí. - Jmabel ! talk 17:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
• @AbchyZa22: I'm mentioning the following only because you've asked quite a few questions here over the last few weeks. Your user page says you are a native English-speaker as well as a native Spanish-speaker. Virtually all of the people who monitor this page have fluent English; only a handful of us have even near-fluent Spanish. If you use both languages equally well, it would be greatly appreciated if you ask questions here in English so that pretty much anyone here can answer them, instead of only a couple of us. We do try to accommodate whatever language people need to use to ask for help, and I would not be asking this of you if you said even that you had good foreigner's English, but if you are a native speaker, then English is preferred. - Jmabel ! talk 17:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel: Ok, with respect to the coats of arms in Venezuela, I read the 1999 Constitution, the constitution of each state and the Organic Law of Municipal Public Power, all coats of arms and flags are public (that is, free licenses).

  AbchyZa22 (talk) 15:06, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Upload photo

I tried to upload a photo of the late Kenn Thomas that I took myself, using my own equipment. I checked the correct box but the photo is still rejected. Captain George Pollard, Jr. (talk) 02:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

@Captain George Pollard, Jr.: what upload tool are you using (Cross-wiki upload from Wikipedia, Special:UploadWizard on Commons, something else}? What error message exactly did you get? - Jmabel ! talk 04:08, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploaded file can't be found

I'm having a problem with a file I uploaded: File:Chicken tikka masala as a convenience meal.jpg

When I uploaded it, I got an error message about some back-end issue. I tried uploading it again but got a message about it being an exact duplicate, so I let it be.

Now the page shows up, but I can't see the actual file. Clicking on the link gives an error message about the file not being found.

What has gone wrong here? Can it be fixed on Commons or do I have to upload the file again? JIP (talk) 09:09, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, There was (is?) a glitch in Wikimedia servers for a few days. Try reupload over the same. Yann (talk) 10:03, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Looks fine now. - Jmabel ! talk 15:31, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Rapid way to revert images?

Is there a way to rapidly batch revert images to earlier versions?

(User:Wenflou has overwritten many of their 2010s sports photo crops with "deblurred" or "denoised" versions, where part of their process is AI upscaling, asking an AI to imagine what that person's facial features might look like at a higher resolution. But digital restoration goes against COM:OVERWRITE, they should be uploaded as separate files. I started going through these manually one by one, but there are around seventy left.) Belbury (talk) 09:59, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

• I believe you have to do them one by one, but I'd be interested to hear if there is anything quicker. - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

COMO SUBIR UN ARTICULO A WIKIPEDIA

como hacerlo Cristina Peinado (talk) 10:37, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

You are here at Commons, not at Wikipedia. Go to here. --Túrelio (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

How are direct crops uploaded

Earlier, I uploaded 1972 Marion Harding High School Quiver Volume 66 page 143.jpg. I wish to crop out just one portrait within the file, for use on enwiki. How should this be marked? Do I upload the crop without any extra tags? The shortcut COM:CROP is unhelpful. Mach61 (talk) 16:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

See Commons:CropTool. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

NVM, I figured out how to get a higher quality portrait off Ancestry than a crop. However the higher quality image will still be derived from the larger page. Does this need be marked (analagously; what extra steps, if any, would a person making a crop of an image without the CropTool need to do?) Mach61 (talk) 16:53, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

update:uploaded image and just referenced the original in the desc Bobby Floyd 1972 high school yearbook photo.jpg Mach61 (talk) 18:29, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Problem with a category infobox - updated info not displaying

Hi all, I am trying to correct some incorrect info that appears in the infobox (is that the term?) for a Commons category, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Leycester_Creek_railway_bridge,_Lismore. The issue is that the image displayed (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lismore,_NSW_-_panoramio.jpg) is not of the bridge in question, and also has incorrect coordinates (28° 48′ 07.7″ S, 153° 16′ 16.43″ E) that are correct for the bridge in the displayed image, but not for the nominate item (Leycester Creek Railway Bridge in Lismore, NSW, Australia). I believe this information is being drawn from wikidata via the page at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55886116, so a few hours ago I edited that page to display an image of the correct bridge (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Leycester-ck-bridge-2023-1.jpg), plus put in the correct coordinates which are 28°48′18″S 153°16′22″E. However the Commons category page is not (yet) displaying the revised information, either in the browser I have been using for the updates (which may have caching issues perhaps) or a different browser I have not used before. So I am wondering whether I have done something wrong, or there is just some lag in the system before the updated information will be displayed on the Commons category page concerned. Any advice appreciated! Regards - Tony Rees, Australia Tony 1212 (talk) 02:29, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

PS I am not familiar with the correct syntax for shortening Commons URLs at this time, so please forgive me for citing them in full in the text above. I may attempt to figure that out better before any further posts :) Tony 1212 (talk) 02:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Correct now!! Whether self updated or with some human help, I don't know! Cheers Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 03:12, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Ensuring page is active and how to raise wikipedia importance level

I have just joined and added some information to a page. I noticed that it was described as inactive and standard or low importance. It appeared the section to raise the issue and get it elevated was the 'talk' section but red rose sent me a link to the requirements for content which suggests the note I posted is not compliant. If so I apologise. However how does a page get elevated to be considered more important by Wikipedia. If my talk post is non compliant obviously no problem with deleting it. Help would be appreciated. Cameron Spade (talk) 09:03, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Note: I believe this is referring to wikipedia:en:Talk:Wisbech and Upwell Tramway. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 09:22, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes that is correct. I have sent a message also to Redrose64 regarding the page which I hope he can also assist with. Cameron Spade (talk) 09:49, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Cameron Spade: welcome to Wikimedia Commons. Please note this is a separate website to Wikipedia so you would probably find it better to ask your question on Wikipedia's equivalent help forum Wikipedia:Teahouse. Hope this helps. Thanks. FotoFree (talk) 10:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you FotoFree. I did not realise this was separate so thank you for that clarification. Will seek advice there. Cameron Spade (talk) 13:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

WLM map not updating to show uploaded photos

Hi - I uploaded a number of photos using the WLM map on 15th September. They all show on my Uploads page, but the map pins are still showing red and not linking to my images. These were my first contributions - is there anything else I need to do to make the pictures appear with the map? I have more pictures ready to upload but would like to be sure I'm doing things right. Thanks for your help, CornishYosser CornishYosser (talk) 14:32, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Note: I'm not too familiar with WLM but I tried adding "depicts" to the structured data for File:St Austell - Queen's Head Hotel - 20230913110232.jpg. I don't know if this will help. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 16:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that - it's still not showing up at present but I did read somewhere that the map can take a day or two to update so I'll check again later. CornishYosser (talk) 17:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

For use in a book

Hello. Can I use WIKI Media Common photos in a book I will be publishing? Thicklarry (talk) 16:24, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thicklarry Yes, most images are free. 20 upper 17:23, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. How can I determine which photos are free to use in my book, free of charge? Thicklarry (talk) 18:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Files on Wikimedia Commons are free to use by anyone for any purpose. Some files do have an attribution requirement, so you would need to attribute the author in a reasonable fashion. COM:REUSE is a helpful read. Abzeronow (talk) 18:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Do be careful to look at the specific licensing indicated on the file page for each image, because licensing requirements differ (though none of them require money). Also, remember that while we (Commons) do our best to be accurate about the copyright status of each image, we do not provide legal guarantees. If you are going to put out a book, and you have no expertise on copyright yourself, you would do well to have it reviewed before publication by someone who has that expertise. - Jmabel ! talk 18:43, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Thicklarry (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. Thicklarry (talk) 18:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Creative Commons

Are creative commons pictures allowed to be uploaded to wikimedia commons? DoggsWiki (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

@DoggsWiki: Depends on the specific license; see Commons:Licensing#Well-known licenses. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 21:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

New version

How to add new version of photo that is already uploaded? Cruz.croce (talk) 02:17, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Cruz.croce: Unless you are overwriting your own photo or have discussed this with the original author/uploader, that is very rarely the correct thing to do. Please read COM:OVERWRITE before overwriting anyone else's images.

Technically, if you look at the file history near the bottom of the file page for the photo, you will see a link, "Upload a new version of this file". Click it to upload a new version. - Jmabel ! talk 03:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

For use in Wikipedia pages about villages, towns, cities etc.

Hi. I maked the map of Okhtyrka Raion (Ukraine) and uploaded this to Commons to use file for pages about populated areas. But I have one problem: to start using this image, I need to make it so that on the map will be geographical marks and location of objects of pages on this map. But how? Trostianchanyn (talk) 08:49, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Trostianchanyn: en:Template:Location mark (and its equivalent in other Wikipedias). - Jmabel ! talk 21:07, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Renaming a category

I have tried to rename categories in the past but the advice online was to redirect the category to the new name and then manually move every individual image to that new category. I want to rename Category:Skitouring to Category:Ski touring (per its name in en-WP, which is also its COMMONNAME) but is there an easier way without having to manually move the individual images as well (i.e. there they are also automatically moved)? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 10:20, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello Aszx5000, the tool Cat-a-lot is the solution for this task. Its a mighty tool and should be used careful. Regards --Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 13:03, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I will certainly try it (and with care)! Aszx5000 (talk) 13:53, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Wow - watched the helpful video and it worked a charm! thanks again. Aszx5000 (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

how to upload information on wikipedia

How can i add information to a specific topic. 117.203.16.207 17:37, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

You are here at Commons, not at Wikipedia. Go to en:Help:Contents. --Túrelio (talk) 19:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

My log in email and kod

This is my [email address suppressed]] and I have an inlog code as well start with Oli....2. The dots just camouflge the real kod. How can i get in with these or should I have to brush up? Indianwaterway (talk) 19:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Indianwaterway: I have no idea what a kod is, but you were logged in when you wrote this, hence the successful signature. - Jmabel ! talk 21:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading a photo

My name is Duchess Harris and I am trying to upload a photo to my Wikipedia Page. Mocha54 (talk) 01:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@Mocha54: it looks like you have been directly editing the English-language Wikipedia page about yourself, and that you haven't declared the conflict of interest. I strongly urge you to read en:WP:COI and en:WP:Autobiography, make the relevant disclosures, and not directly edit the article about yourself in the future, or you are very likely to have your account blocked on the English-language Wikipedia.

None of that is directly Wikimedia Commons' concern, but I'm an admin on both projects.

Here on Commons we don't have that particular concern (much less of a problem of conflict of interest in providing a photo), but we do have the issue of copyright. As for uploading a picture of yourself:

• If you are uploading a selfie, it's simple: just use Special:UploadWizard, and it will be obvious what to do.
• If you are uploading a picture someone else took of you:
  • If the photographer signed the copyright over to you, you'll need to go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to send them a copy of the document that transferred copyright to you so it is clear that you have the right to grant a license to use the photo.
  • If, as is more typical, the photographer still owns the copyright, then there are three ways this can proceed:
    1. If the image has not been previously published, then the photographer can open an account here and upload it, granting a license themself as part of the upload process.
    2. If there is a website or web page clearly under control of the photographer (e.g. their own website, Flickr stream, publicly visible social media posting, etc.), then they can publish the picture there and indicate the license. Then anyone, including you, can upload the image to Commons, citing the relevant URL as the source.
    3. The photographer can go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to provide a license for the photo. Anyone, including you, can then upload the image to Commons, following the process described at Template:PP. Sometimes it is more convenient to upload first, so the email to VRT can reference the URL of the page; that's fine as long as the email is sent within hours after uploading.

In all cases, the actual uploading can be accomplished through Special:UploadWizard. Once the image is on Commons, it can be used in the article as described at en:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#How to place an image.

I hope that answers your [implicit] question. - Jmabel ! talk 02:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Update Logo

We have updated our School logo, and I wanted to make this change on our page here. The guide says logos cannot be uploaded, but clearly our old one is there. What is the best way to go about this? Many thanks MrRokison (talk) 16:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@MrRokison Logos are actually uploaded on WP itself, not Commons. Go here [5], chose Upload a non-free file > This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use. > This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc.

Then you can add it to the WP-article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:08, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@MrRokison and Gråbergs Gråa Sång: when Gråbergs Gråa Sång says, "Logos are actually uploaded on WP itself, not Commons," that's actually not quite right. If the logo is complex enough to be eligible for copyright, then indeed we cannot host it on Commons, unless the copyright-holder (probably the designer) is willing to free-license it. In the UK, the threshold for copyright is quite low; anything other than a text logo would probably be over the line. So:

• If it's a simple text logo, then you can simply upload it to Commons and use it in the article like any other image on Commons.
• Otherwise, if the copyright-holder is willing to grant a free license, they can go through the COM:VRT process to upload it on Commons (and use it like any other image on Commons).
• If neither of these apply then, yes, you need to do the upload directly on the English-language Wikipedia, and it won't be usable on other Wikipedias; if you want it on any other, they each have their own rules. For the English-language Wikipedia, you need to fill out a template that explains how and why this non-free image is being used. en:File:Flag_of_Seattle.svg and en:File:Seattle University seal.svg are good examples to follow.

Jmabel ! talk 23:39, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

I've send through a more up to date photo of a third party for their wikipage, but you haven't published it. Can you let me know why?

I've send through a more up to date photo of a third party for their wikipage, but you haven't published it. Can you let me know why? Robinokelly (talk) 16:22, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@Robinokelly Do you mean File:Mohamed Amersi sept23.jpg? You uploaded it as "own work", but now you write of it as a "photo of a third party". Do you mean, you are not the photographer, but someone else is? In that case please correct the information at the file description page and have the photographer send a permission as explained int VRT.

About "their wikipage". No, it is not their wikipage. If there is a page, then it is a biography about the person. There is no ownership of a biography in wikipedia. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 16:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@C.Suthorn: I hope you are not being willfully obtuse here. A photo of someone nearly always refers to the subject of the photo, not the photographer. And while of course no one has ownership of the page about them in Wikipedia, there is nothing unusual about someone, especially someone not terribly active in WMF projects, to refer to it as that person's wiki page. (The very use of "wiki page" rather than something like "page in the English-language Wikipedia" should tell you that you are not dealing with someone deep into working on these projects. Don't bite the newbies.) - Jmabel ! talk 23:21, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Meinem Sprachgefühl nach ist eine "dritte Partei" häufig keine Person (also Hochlader, Fotograf oder Modell) sondern eine juristische Person (Organisation der der Abgebildete angehört, Foto-Agentur, Museum, ...). Aber es kann alles davon sein, daher die Nachfrage. Und dass ein Neuling bei Wikipedia die Erwartung hat, dass das hochladen eines Bildes einer Person, dieses auch ("magisch") in den Artikel einfügt, finde ich in keiner Weise überraschend. In vielen anderen Online-Medien würde genau das passieeren. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 07:06, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Robinokelly: (1) when you are asking a question like this, it would be really helpful if you would link the image and article in question so people don't have to guess what you are talking about. (2) I assume you are talking about File:Mohamed Amersi sept23.jpg and en:Mohamed Amersi. Why would you expect that uploading a photo to Commons would magically make it appear in a particular Wikipedia article? As far as I can see, you haven't even proposed on the article's talk page that the image in the article be changed. I suggest you do that, and when you propose that, say that if no one objects in the next three days you'll make the edit yourself. - Jmabel ! talk 23:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

changing photo on my wikipedia page

All I want to do is change the hideous photo on my wikipedia page. This photo was uploaded by someone else. I want to add another photo. Would this be possible? I can use another photo taken by the same photographer and credit him. There appears to be a better one that I could add. Can you please tell me how I do this? Thanks so much for any help you can give me. Best Karen Hansentanner (talk) 01:50, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hansentanner: a link here to say what page and photo you are talking about might have made something clearer here, but I'll do my best without that. I'm going to guess that you are talking about a page about you on the English-language Wikipedia. If not, then some of what I'm saying might not apply.

Commons can only host photos that are either in the public domain or free-licensed (if you don't know what that means, follow the links). It is unlikely that there is a picture of you in the public domain (few pictures from recent decades would be PD), and only the copyright-holder can grant a license. Typically the photographer would be the copyright-holder. (Because you didn't link the current picture, I have no way to determine whether it is properly licensed or not.)

If the picture in question has never been published then the simplest thing would be for the copyright-holder to create an account, upload it themselves, and grant an appropriate license; I recommend {{CC-BY-SA-4.0}}. (Similarly if it was already published with a sufficiently free license.)

Otherwise (image already published, or photographer doesn't want to set up a Commons account), you need to go through the more complicated process outlined at COM:VRT where the copyright-holder can send confidential correspondence to establish who they are and that they are now offering the relevant license for the photo. Probably best to have them CC you, but the email has to come directly from them.

Once the image is uploaded to Commons with an appropriate license (and the VRT process is complete, if you go that way), it should be pretty routine to get it substituted on the English-language Wikipedia. Because of their policy on conflicts of interest, you should not just substitute it into the article yourself. Instead, request the substitution on the talk page of the article, requesting the change as a courtesy. If no one responds within 72 hours (some articles aren't particularly monitored), feel free to hit me up on my talk page and I'll take care of it. - Jmabel ! talk 02:14, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

thanks for this. The photo is of me on a page about me. The photo was by a photographer who takes photos for the Creative Commons. I want to change that photo to another one that is also listed on the Creative Commons (of me). It just doesn't seem to let me. Hansentanner (talk) 03:29, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

the page about me is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Foxlee

the photographer is

Samuel Wiki, CC BY 4.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Karen_Foxlee,_February_2019_01.jpg Hansentanner (talk) 03:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm trying to get the photo that I added above, as the new photo.(it is in the Creative Commons and preferable to the one that is currently there) if I can't use my own.

Thanks if you can help me find a way? Hansentanner (talk) 03:40, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

the page about me is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Foxlee

the photographer is

Samuel Wiki, CC BY 4.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0>, via Wikimedia Commons

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Karen_Foxlee,_February_2019_01.jpg Hansentanner (talk) 03:39, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to get the photo that I added above, as the new photo.(it is in the Creative Commons and preferable to the one that is currently there) if I can't use my own.

Thanks if you can help me find a way?

Otherwise I will just request it in the talk on that page. I see what you mean now. Thanks Hansentanner (talk) 03:46, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

You don't need to upload a photo. It is already there, you linked to it yourself. However "commons" is a generic term. The organization by the name "Creative Commons" uses it and Wikipedia uses it in the site name "commons.wikimedia.org". "Creative Commons" is an organization that provides licenses models. "commons.wikimedia.org" is the image repository of Wikipedia and all other sites of the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF).

Therefore the images only need swaped at the article at the english language wikipedia in the way Jmabel has already described. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 07:16, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done. If you'd been clear initially about what article & photo you were talking about, this could all have been solved in 30 seconds. - Jmabel ! talk 15:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

What copyright status do I put on logos/emblems of government agencies?

What do I put? None of the options seem viable for logos of government agencies who's logo would have not expired by copyright. Sci Show With Moh (talk) 02:35, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sci Show With Moh: Depends entirely on what country. For most countries, logos of government agencies are not normally in the public domain, although there are several countries where they are. What country are you talking about? - Jmabel ! talk 15:45, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Brunei. Sci Show With Moh (talk) 20:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Also, if the logo of the government agency is not in the public domain, then is there a way to post it to commons? Sci Show With Moh (talk) 20:10, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

If a logo or other image is not either public domain or free licensed by the copyright holder, it cannot be on Commons, which is for free licensed media only. (Some Wikipedias, such as the English language one, allow some use of copyrighted media under "fair use", but not here on Commons.) -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm posting on Commons to add the images to Wikipedia. How do I post images on Wikipedia English without the use of commons so that I can use copyrighted media under fair use? Sci Show With Moh (talk) 22:13, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

See en:File:Flag of Seattle.svg for a good example of doing it right. - Jmabel ! talk 22:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, but what I was wondering is how to post files on Wikipedia English without using Wikimedia Commons. Sci Show With Moh (talk) 00:45, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sci Show With Moh: You can use the file upload wizard. Select "Upload a non-free file" and then in step 3 of the next screen, select "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 00:56, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Is this also the method that should be used when posting city flags/emblems? Sci Show With Moh (talk) 02:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Sci Show With Moh: Yes. Please note that the wizard will mention some key points of the English Wikipedia's non-free content policy. You should ensure that your uploads follow them. If you have any questions about this specifically, I recommend asking at Wikipedia's media copyright questions page there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anon126 (talk • contribs) 21:23, 18 October 2023‎ (UTC)

greeting message with a request

Greeting to all the admin, hope you are doing well. i need a small help from you. I need to reactivate the page called Fincare Small Finance Bank. May i know how may i be able to do this. it would be really helpfull if someone helps me with this. thank you in advance. KarthikAryan48 (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

This is Commons; that page is on Wikipedia.

(Or at least it is for now; it will probably be deleted.) DS (talk) 12:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@DragonflySixtyseven: Why "it will probably be deleted"?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:00, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Because it's grossly inadequate as an article. The only reason I haven't deleted it myself is that I got involved in this discussion. DS (talk) 13:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

I am looking to update the interactive advertising bureau's logo

I have an updated SVG logo that I would like to update for my company

IAB2024 (talk) 20:54, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

It is important to delete the old logo from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Advertising_Bureau. Because other companies are using this older logo in their presentations etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAB2024 (talk • contribs)

• No, if the old logo was ever relevant, it is NOT important to delete the old version. Commons documents history as well as most recent versions. If the new logo is free licensed or public domain, you are free to upload it without deleting the old one. If any Wikipedia articles use the old version, you may edit the articles to replace the image with the current one. None of that requires deletion of old logo first nor at all. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 21:15, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@Infrogmation, I think this logo meets "This logo image consists only of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection", see [6] for an example of templates (and it seems to be in place in the articles anyway). It's fine to upload it on Commons without it being free licensed or public domain. Replacing an old logo with a new as lead-image on WP seems reasonable. Actually deleting the old image files on Commons, less so. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:37, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

How do I upload this to the wikipedia page for the company? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Advertising_Bureau) IAB2024 (talk) 14:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@IAB2024: Hi, and welcome. Please see en:H:PIC. However, why does your upload have such wide margins?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:51, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

You can display the Commons image in the Wikipedia article by editing the Wikipedia article page and replacing the name of the other file IAB MasterLogo Color-RGB.svg with the name of your new file IAB logo.svg in the "image=" line. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:01, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

How long does it take for subtitles on wikimedia commons to show up in wikipedia?

Hi, I recently added subtitles to TimedText:How Animated Cartoons Are Made (1919).webm.en.srt , and the same video is used in the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_animation. How long does it take for the subtitles to be availiable on Wikipedia? Insnesnakos (talk) 00:56, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Insnesnakos: I purged the en:Traditional_animation page, do you see the subtitles now? MKFI (talk) 06:23, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Ye, I see them now, thanks! Does the page have to be updated each time when new subtitles are made? Insnesnakos (talk) 12:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Insnesnakos: Only if you don't want to wait.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok, sorry to ask but how do I update it? Insnesnakos (talk) 14:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Insnesnakos: Please see COM:PURGE, en:WP:BYPASS, and en:WP:PURGE.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:56, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the links and your help. Insnesnakos (talk) 15:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Insnesnakos: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 15:44, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Ghosts of North Dakota

The makers of the blog Ghosts of North Dakota have released their photos into the public domain [7]. They've steadily released their original unprocessed photos (some, even the raw image files) piecemeal via individual Google Drive links (e.g., [8]) posted on their Facebook page. I'd like to get them uploaded here, but done manually this would be a rather inconvenient bulk operation with dozens of individual Drive links to go through. Does anyone with more experience have advice about this, and how they could be batch uploaded more easily? Shells-shells (talk) 05:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Files with URL in Arabic script

Hi, I could not find a query related to this topic. I tried to use URL to Commons to upload a file of the ongoing war in the Middle East, but when attempting to upload an Iranian TasnimNews file in Arabic script, I got the URL https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/media/1402/07/21/2971046/%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%BE%DB%8C%D9%85%D8%A7%DB%8C%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%85-%D8%AA%D9%87%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%85%D8%AD%DA%A9%D9%88%D9%85%DB%8C%D8%AA-%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%B1%DA%98%DB%8C%D9%85-%D8%B5%D9%87%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%81%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B7%DB%8C%D9%86#photo=57 and an error message. The same happened when I attempted the upload via the regular Wizard. Is there any direct way around this? Do I need to install Arabic script in the computer? Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@Iñaki LL: script shoudn't matter, but your link does not point to an image file, it takes to a website gallery. Try this to use this link in the upload tool: https://newsmedia.tasnimnews.com/Tasnim/Uploaded/Image/1402/07/21/1402072114520439728556034.jpg. MKFI (talk) 17:20, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

You are right, it seems I can get a numeric URL. Thank you! Iñaki LL (talk) 21:32, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Changing official Logo

Hi, I'm trying to update the company logo for this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WorldWinner There have been no updates on the page in years but we've gone through several changes, including a rebrand earlier this month. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia at all, so hoping you might have easy instructions PlayWorldWinner (talk) 20:35, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@PlayWorldWinner: Hi, and welcome. It seems you already uploaded such a logo but did not take all the advice at en:H:PIC - I fixed the usage for you in this edit. Please read en:WP:COI.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 21:27, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I'll try to be a quicker learner  :) PlayWorldWinner (talk) 22:45, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

@PlayWorldWinner: You're welcome!   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 01:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

username

Where do I find the form to use for a 'simple' username change? M.M.D. Photos (talk) 01:54, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@M.M.D. Photos: Hi, and welcome. You may use en:WP:CHUS or M:SRU.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 02:09, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Wanted to upload a Public Domain book

I have a scan of the Croatian book "Pastir Loda" by en:Vladimir Nazor which I wanted to upload so I can use it on hr.Wikisource. Nazor died more than 70 years ago, and the book was published in 1946. The upload form requires to state that the work was published before 1928 and that the author must have died more than 70 years ago. Shouldn't that be an or? Can I upload the book here? -- Denny (talk) 02:48, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Denny: No, it is correctly an "and". If it was published in 1946, there is a good chance that it is still in copyright in the United States, where our servers are located. Do you have a reason it wouldn't be? - Jmabel ! talk 03:27, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel: Thanks for the reply. It was not a work for hire, it was not published pseudonymously, etc., so I don't know why it would have the 95-years-after-publication rule applied to it, and not just the 70-years-after-death-of-author rule [9]. What can we do to check whether the 95-year rule would apply? (As far as I know it was never published in English or in the US, but I don't think that has any weight). --Denny (talk) 03:37, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

  I now found the Help page on public domain, and according to that, it would be PD, if I understand it right. There is no copyright notice in the book, although I am not sure that matters. I uploaded it using the PD-1996 template. I hope that is correct. If not, it should obviously be deleted. --Denny (talk) 04:06, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Denny: Hm, I don't believe this is actually public domain in the US, due to URAA copyright restoration. According to the page on copyright rules for Croatia: The URAA restoration date is 1 January 1996. At that time, the copyright term for works other than photographs was 50 years after author's death. Nazor died in 1949, so it would still have been copyrighted on that date. According to the Hirtle chart for US copyright terms, this means that the copyright in the US expires 95 years after publication, that is, after 2041 (1 January 2042). If this analysis is correct, then it is still copyrighted in the US and so cannot be hosted on Commons. (Note: If this file is deleted please list it at Category:Undelete in 2042 or add the deletion request page to the category.) Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 08:56, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

  I've nominated this for deletion. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 01:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Need to change the logo of Kellton Wikipedia page

I need to change the logo present on Wikipedia page of Kellton, Kellton has rebranded its logos across all Geography.

I need to know the process involved in changing the logos. Aniket1508 (talk) 06:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aniket1508: Hi,

The logo is not on Commons, but on the English Wikipedia under fair use exception. You can probably upload a new version there. Yann (talk) 09:07, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Aniket1508: Based on your account on Wikipedia, it appears you have already used the files for upload process there to request the previous logo that currently appears in the article. You can request the new logo there as well if you cannot or do not wish to upload it yourself.

I have tagged for deletion the copy of the previous logo that you uploaded here on Wikimedia Commons: If you say you are an "independent editor" (and are not connected to this company?), then I don't believe you can provide permission for the logo. Anon126 (✉ ⚒) 09:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Preserving a blog

My friend’s husband died recently. He had written an extensive blog on his film reviews. His wife wants to preserve them. One step we have thought of, is to set up a Wikipedia entry explaining the blog. But we don't know how. The next step, is if possible, to upload the whole blog to your archive. It should still be accessible to anyone. She will have the rights or ownershop of his blog. But how would we satisfy you, Wikipedia, of this? We are in Dunedin, New Zealand. YouYangsDave (talk) 08:46, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@YouYangsDave: Hi,

Wikimedia is the wrong place for this, but Internet Archive most probably is. Yann (talk) 09:04, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try. YYD. YouYangsDave (talk) 09:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Technical reason for 100 MB limitation on HTML upload form?

While Upload Wizard has a 4 GB limit, the HTML-based form has a 100 MB limit. It looks like no one has asked this before: is there a technical reason for this limitation? Elominius (talk) 09:34, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, This is mostly historical, but uploading a 100 MB+ file in one chunk will fail for most people. Yann (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

I see. This was a rapid response. Thanks, Yann. Have a wonderful day. Elominius (talk) 09:41, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

The Upload Wizard is also llimited to 100MB, but can circumvent the limit by uploading a number of chunks each smaller than 100 MB. Nearly all files are smaller than 100MB. Most files uploaded to commons are jpeg or png. Both file types are no larger than 20MB almost ever. The only file types that are typically sometimes larger than 100MB are tiff, pdf and mp4- But even these are mostly smaller than 100MB. The limit of 100MB could be changed at the web server. The limit of 4GiB however is a hard limit. MediaWiki stores the file size as an 32bit unsigned integer in the database. The maximum number that fits into a 32bit unsigned integer is 4G. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 23:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

MP4 format

MP4 is the most popular file extension for videos, just like JPG is for photos. While converting videos to WEBM is only a minor inconvenience, I guess there must be some good reason for the lack of MP4 support. How come MP4 is not supported? Elominius (talk) 09:37, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, MP4 is not a free format, and only free formats are accepted on Commons. See Commons:Requests for comment/MP4 Video. Yann (talk) 09:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Not exactly a Commons "problem" but

I stumbled on this "portrait" [10] of a Chinese emperor, used on many WP:s, and if it is what it says it is (2021 usergenerated work), I don't think it should be on any WP. There may be more. Started a discussion on en-WP at [11], your input is welcome. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

South africans community involve

I've notice so few involvements in wiki commons how cn i get involve how cn i meet up with a local team.we gt nice scenery especialy Eastern Cape.wiki loves earth.i havent seen them participate in this years photo competition Hettypeter (talk) 14:46, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Hettypeter: You might be interested in en:Wikipedia:Meetup/South Africa/South Africa 33. - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

photo deleting

hello, want to delete this photo, how do i do this? Lenny Brown1 (talk) 16:42, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Lenny Brown1, what photo and why? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:58, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Lenny Brown1 and Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Only admins can delete photos, but you can nominate the image for deletion. 20 upper 17:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Clipping an image

Is there a forum/help desk that can advise a technical idiot on clipping an image. I'm needing both "how to" advice, as well as any copyright implications. The image in question is this, [[File:The Old School House on Bagwell Lane (geograph 7253971).jpg]]. What I would like to do is remove that irritating boat on the right-hand side of the image, while losing as little as possible of the main building. I'm less fussed about the structures behind the main building, on the right-hand side. Any advice much appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 09:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

You could use the CropTool: https://croptool.toolforge.org/?title=The_Old_School_House_on_Bagwell_Lane_(geograph_7253971).jpg Magnus (talk) 10:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Magnus - Fantastic! Thanks hugely. KJP1 (talk) 10:57, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

From/in

Apologies for my ignorance, but what's the difference between "from" and "in" when it comes to categories about, say, paintings? For instance: paintings from Spain and paintings in Spain. Thanks. Alavense (talk) 11:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Paintings from Spain were painted in Spain. Paintings in Spain are in Spain today (or were there at the time of taken photo). Regards --Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR (talk) 12:39, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh, it makes sense. Thank you for your help, Wilhelm Zimmerling PAR. Kind regards. Alavense (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Delete old version of image for privacy reasons

Hi, i've uploaded a pic with visible car license plates. Maybe this is a minor problem, but i would prefer to remove that information. I've already uploaded a newer version with the license plates "removed", but i didn't find a way to remove (only) the initial version of the image. How should i proceed? Fl.schmitt (talk) 13:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Fl.schmitt: done. For what it's worth, we have literally hundreds of thousands of images on Commons where license plates are visible, though. - Jmabel ! talk 18:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

NO HE PODIDO CREAR UN ARTÍCULO

Hola, hemos tratado de crear la página principal del Congresista, pero no ha sido posible. Juan Pablo Salazar Rivera (talk) 18:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Eso es Wikimedia Commons. No tenemos artículos. Quizás buscas la wikipedia in español. - Jmabel ! talk 19:08, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Spelling mistake on Wikipedia photo

Please can you suggest what I should do? By mistake I titled the photo Bencleugh incorrectly - it should be spelled Bencleuch - with a C and not a G.

I have the painting in my living room,

Blair Thomson BJTsan (talk) 12:28, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@BJTsan: Done for this file. For future cases, you can use the method described at Commons:File renaming#How to rename a file. However, you can't claim the authorship and a copyright on the work of someone else. Please edit the description page of the file to indicate the actual author, date, source and status. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much ! ! ! I will do my best to edit the description regarding author, date and source (although this is a painting passed down from father to son for four generations). BJTsan (talk) 01:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikilovesmonuments

Today you sent me an invitation to the photo contest, I was following your guidelines, but I can't find the Philippines (where I am at the moment) listed. Elsewhere, participation is listed for 2023. Can you explain this to me, please? Thanks in advance! Ingo Verwackeltnochmal (talk) 09:48, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Du hast wohl noch ein anderes Benutzerkonto? Suchst du Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2023 in the Philippines? --Achim55 (talk) 10:25, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Kann sein. Ja, ich glaube ich hab mal eins eingerichtet vor Jahren. Jedenfalls war das ein Blattschuß, Volltreffer, danke! Verwackeltnochmal (talk) 11:00, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

InstantCommons problem

Hello. I am operating the wiki InkluPedia at https://inklupedia.de/ based on MediaWiki 1.39.1, PHP 8.0.30 and Debian (root server). Since yesterday InstantCommons is no longer working most of the time. After detecting the problem it was working for some minutes hours later, but after that the problem reoccured. There was no technical change in my platform. Only some hundred users are currently using this wiki daily, so I do no suspect mass usage of InstantCommons and a throttling of my wiki in Commons. Is this a known problem? Are other wikis affected too? Is there a MediaWiki log that I can check? --InkluPedia (talk) 14:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

E.g. this picture [12] is from Commons. At the moment there is no more problem. Even after a purge of affected articles/pictures. I did not change anything. --InkluPedia (talk) 17:25, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

File:On a Sailboat - Albert Gleizes, 1916 (New Orleans Mus of Art 2007.22).jpg

I accidentally uploaded this file a couple of months before I should have. The artist died in 1953, so it will be clear of copyright in January of 2024. Could someone temporarily delete it and restore it after the first of the year? (All of the files in the Wikipedia category Paintings by Albert Gleizes will also be able to be moved to the Commons after that date.) Thanks, Crawdad Blues (talk) 17:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Jacobfloresantos

Hi! I was trying to copy an image of this: Cambodia Customs Flag.png but it got deleted. can you plz help me restore this image? Jacobfloressantos (talk) 17:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

• Convenience link File:Cambodia Customs Flag.png. - Jmabel ! talk 18:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
  • No file by that name has ever existed on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 19:00, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
  • OK, it looks like what you did was to paste the text "File:Cambodia Customs Flag.png" into that page. That does nothing. If you want to upload an image, for a beginner I recommend Special:UploadWizard. Do make sure that the image that you intend to upload is either in the public domain or free-licensed and not already on Commons under another name. - Jmabel ! talk 19:04, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

    but how? I tried using view history but it was low resolution. Jacobfloressantos (talk) 21:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

    • @Jacobfloressantos: Again: there was never a file uploaded at the name you've indicated. All you did was make a meaningless edit on a previously blank page. If you have such a file, and it is public-domain or free-licensed, you can upload it. Or perhaps you meant some other filename than what you wrote, but I have no way to guess that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

      this was the image: File:Cambodia Customs Flag.png it was deleted so you were wrong. Jacobfloressantos (talk) 00:36, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

      • Weird. Earlier today that was showing only a single edit, yours, that put the text "File:Cambodia Customs Flag.png" there. I wonder what went wrong? Because your link here is identical to the one I created above. - Jmabel ! talk 01:06, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
      • Apparently deleted on the basis that "There is no evidence that points to the use of this flag by the Cambodian Customs Office." Are you saying you believe it was incorrectly deleted (in which case start an undeletion request and state your case) or do you just need a copy for yourself of what was once there? - Jmabel ! talk 01:09, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

        i need a copy of myself and the image. Oh! and I also forget. Coat of arms of Algeria was deleted so it had a new emblem called "Emblem of Algeria" can you plz restore this image too? Jacobfloressantos (talk) 21:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

        • @Jacobfloressantos: you don't seem to have an email address associated with this account. Add one and I can arrange to get a copy of the photo to you. As for the "Coat of arms of Algeria" I have no idea what file you are talking about, clearly that is not a filename. - Jmabel ! talk 18:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Jacob Flores Santos

Hi! I was trying to copy an image of this: Cambodia Customs Flag.png but it got deleted. can you plz help me restore this image? Jacobfloressantos (talk) 18:31, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

• This appears to be a duplication of the prior section. - Jmabel ! talk 19:02, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Do I have a problem with the signature format?

Hi all, I have noticed that in my last few deletion requests my signature doesn't seem right and the notification of the deletion request at the user talk page doesn't really look like others before mines. See the an example here. Let's see how the signature is working here.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:41, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok here the signature works fine but at the user talk page not.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:46, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Maybe too many uses of the Template:Autotranslate on that user page and the signature just happens to get caught in that problem on that page. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:30, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, then it doesn't seem to be my problem. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:09, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

@Paradise Chronicle: Right, I wrote to the user about this at User talk:FrDr#‎User talk page length.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 08:50, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Can I publish cited work?

Can I publish cited work? Crystal S. Brown (talk) 04:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Crystal S. Brown: Please see Commons talk:Abuse filter#Report by Crystal S. Brown.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 08:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading a newspaper article

I went to the Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center and found a newspaper article from 1905 in the Town and Country newspaper (Pennsburg, PA) on microfiche. They sent me a PDF of the newspaper article and I have cited it in the Wikipedia article for the Red Hill Band. I know that images taken before 1927 are generally public domain, but does the same thing apply to articles published in newspapers? If I'm able to upload this can I link to the Wikimedia Commons image in the citation on Wikipedia (or is that a question for the Wikipedia HD)? Also, what file type should I use when uploading it (I assume PDF probably isn't acceptable)? TipsyElephant (talk) 13:38, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

I also have the 1909 bylaws for the band. I'm assuming that those are probably public domain. TipsyElephant (talk) 13:41, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, anything published that is not a sound recording before 1928 (1927 has been public domain since this year) is public domain in the United States. Abzeronow (talk) 15:46, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

PDF is acceptable, JPEG is better for this, and I assume you know that you can cite an article without it necessarily having to be available online. - Jmabel ! talk 18:40, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant There are tools to extract the original image file inside the PDF. If you do that and it is PNG, JPEG, TIFF or WEBP you should upload this original file in its original format. Otherwise PNG is probably the best. If it is mostly a photograph with only some text JPEG may be better than PNG. If the PDF actually contains more than one page, it would be good to upload the PDF. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Error: Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; refs with no name must have content

Hello,

I successfully uploaded a page, but only able to add one photo. How does one add more than one image to his post. Also might you explain to get rid of this error? Erobertlee53 (talk) 03:25, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Erobertlee53: Hi, and welcome. There is nothing in your ref tag, and no in-scope content in your user page. Removing the page will solve both problems.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 07:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

أرغب إضافة معلومات جديدة في حسابي وصفحتي الخاصة من فضلكم شرح الطريقة

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله .. أرغب في إضافة معلومات جديدة في صفحتي وتحديداً في قائمة الإنجازات والجوائز .. فأرجو إفادتي عن طريقة التعديل في الصفحة وإضافة المعلومات التي أرغب في اضافتها مشكورين حفظكم الله خضر اللحياني (talk) 08:21, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I would like to add new information to my account and my private page. Please explain the method

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May God’s peace and mercy be upon you.. I would like to add new information to my page, specifically to the list of achievements and awards.. Please advise me on how to edit the page and add the information I would like to add. Thank you. God bless you

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 08:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@خضر اللحياني: أهلا ومرحبا بكم. يمكنك تعديل User:خضر اللحياني و نقاش المستخدم:خضر اللحياني. لا يجب عليك تعديل ar:خضر_اللحياني لكل ar:ويكيبيديا:تعارض_المصالح.

Hi, and welcome. You may edit User:خضر اللحياني and User talk:خضر اللحياني. You should not edit ar:خضر_اللحياني per en:WP:COI.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 08:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Restaurar el file

Buenas, necesito que un administrador restaure el File:Aserca airlines (Venezuela) 225.jpg según la ley venezolana los logos en Venezuela son Públicos (Licencias libres). AbchyZa22 (talk) 09:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Restore file

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Hello, I need an administrator to restore the File:Aserca airlines (Venezuela) 225.jpg according to Venezuelan law, logos in Venezuela are Public (Free Licenses).

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: Buenas. Publique una nueva sección en COM:UDR.

Hi, and welcome. Please post a new section to COM:UDR.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Issue with category

Hi there. I created the Category:1946 in Tolosa, but there must be something wrong, because I cannot find it in any of the categories it belongs to. I would be grateful if somebody could help me. Thanks in advance. Alavense (talk) 12:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Alavense: Hi, and welcome. I had to null edit that cat in order for it to show up in the other 3 cats - purging didn't help.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Jeff G.. Alavense (talk) 13:18, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Alavense: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:26, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

VDMA-Logo

Dear Sir or Madam,

It has come to our attention that the logo used by the VDMA is erroneously marked as "in the public domain" on your platform and, due to a lack of originality, is not subject to copyright protection.

We disagree with this statement already against the background of the achieved level of creation of the logo according to § 2 para. 1 No. 4 UrhG and ask you to delete this misleading passage:

"It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain," (...) File:Logo German Engineering Federation.svg - Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_Verband_Deutscher_Maschinen-_und_Anlagenbau.svg)

By the way, we would like to point out that the logo was uploaded by a third party user: "Transferred from de.wikipedia to Commons by Wdwdbot using script bot_filetrans.pl. The original description page was here. All following user names refer to de.wikipedia. - 2012-03-11 23:10:43 Zaibatsu"

We look forward to your feedback. 62.96.169.10 14:29, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I requested deletion on your behalf: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Logo Verband Deutscher Maschinen- und Anlagenbau.svg. Deletion may happen after discussion. You can add more arguments there. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:38, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome. Please explain in that discussion how the file exceeds COM:TOO Germany.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:40, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Taxon identifications

I can ID some of these (at least to genus). How should I go about doing so? Should I just add the ID to an image's description? Should I add it somewhere else? Should I have it checked first? How does this usually work? (I'm new to editing the Commons and wary of breaking things somehow, haha.) Thanks for your help! -- Photosynthetic430 ❧ ❧ 21:41, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Photosynthetic430: Hi, and welcome. You may certainly recategorize them and adjust their descriptions. You may also submit rename requests using {{Rename}} or our RenameLink gadget, if appropriate.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 22:56, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll get right on it. -- Photosynthetic430 ❦ ❧ 15:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Oh, one other question: I've already found a photo that's clearly IDed, but to a taxon (Potentilla lozani) that has neither a category in the Commons nor an article in Wikipedia. It's a validly published scientific name, but apparently not a widely accepted one. Should I just make the category? Even if this would be the only thing in it? (I don't know whether it would be -- I'll go looking if making the category is a possibility.) What's the policy on when to make categories for taxa? -- Photosynthetic430 ❦ ❧ 15:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@Photosynthetic430: Yes; for taxa even one image is enough. Also, it does have a Wikipedia article, just not in English. See Potentilla lozanii (Q17249607), which links articles in two languages (and to which you should add your Commons cat once you build it).

News image needed for Kenneth Chesebro article

Can I use this image on the Wikipedia page of Kenneth Chesebro? See the image I hope to use here:

https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/the-revelation-that-donald-trump

The caption says: ABOVE: A photograph posted on “X” by the #SeditionHunters, who have worked with the New York Times and are the focal point of a new book by NBC News justice reporter Ryan J. Reilly, Sedition Hunters (Public Affairs, forthcoming October 2023).

I am trying to find a photo of Chesebro at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 for his article. Photos are available via news outlets . . .

Here's the Chesebro Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Chesebro

Utahredrock (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• Sorry, there is no indication that the photo is free licensed. Commons is for free licensed media only. See COM:License. (You might be able to upload it to en:wikipedia under "fair use"; check there. As Jmabel answered a question about something similar above, "For the English-language Wikipedia, you need to fill out a template that explains how and why this non-free image is being used. en:File:Flag_of_Seattle.svg and en:File:Seattle University seal.svg are good examples to follow.") -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
  • I don't think en-wiki will take that one: it's a photo of a living person, and there is no reason in principle that someone couldn't take a photo of Chesebro and free-license it.
  • There just might be a photo of him somewhere taken by a federal government photographer, which would be public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 01:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Thanks everyone. Somehow the sedition hunters people found it. I'll keep looking. Utahredrock (talk) 02:45, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Login issue

What the fuck is wrong with Wikimedia Commons, I tried logging in and it stated: There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. 197.184.178.33 04:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

I suggest to wait a few hours or if that doesn't help, then wait a day or two before you login again. And WTF is not the best approach to issues. Maybe try I have a problem with logging in because... Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Try to delete the cookies from wikimedia.org and wikipedia.org. Try to restart the browser. Try to restart the computer. Try a different computer or mobile device. Try a differen internet access (wifi hotspot, office, ...). C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Crop tool problems

Any idea why the crop tool fails so miserably with File:Hotel Montaña Magica en Huilo Huilo (8168483391).jpg? Seems to squash it and then in the preview it rotates it. Brycehughes (talk) 09:04, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Probably the file content uses some less-than-common technique to indicate it orientation. - Jmabel ! talk 15:21, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Please delete copyrighted image

Hello, could someone please delete this copyrighted image, File:E. A. Jenns, 1923 to 1926.jpg. I assumed it was out of copyright because of the date, although the museum claims copyright. Thank you. Curiocurio (talk) 14:49, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• convenience link File:E. A. Jenns, 1923 to 1926.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 15:22, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
• @Curiocurio: Photographer F. G. Goodenough died 2 Jan 1930. The museum can claim whatever it wants to claim, but the image is still in the public domain. I see no reason to delete this, but if you really like I can delete your upload and re-upload it myself so that you can't be held responsible. Would you like me to do that? - Jmabel ! talk 15:26, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

  It's just my landlord got a notice of copyright infringement on his internet bill and I was thinking it might be this image, so that's the reason for the request. If you could delete it and re-upload it that sounds like a good solution. I disagree also with institutions claiming copyright over public domain images. Curiocurio (talk) 15:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

IMHO, it's very unlikely that a notice on a bill has anything to do with this image. Anyway, it would be a useless notice if it doesn't tell what it is about. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@Curiocurio: Hello, Well, the museum does not claim copyright on the image itself. The descriptive notice states "Terms governing use, reproduction, and publication : Item is in the public domain." However, the museum seems to try to give to itself a sort of indirect copyright on public domain material by claiming that the arrangement of its whole website is a copyrighted collective work, and it tries to make you agree contractually to its claims by saying that your use of its website signifies your consent to be bound by its terms. I guess many Commons users would just wrap the public domain status templates into a PD-scan or PD-Art template. But if you are actually troubled by the claims of that museum, you can nominate the file for deletion. If an uploader sincerely fears a copyright claim from the source and doesn't want to risk to engage responsability, I think the deletion should be accepted, even if to someone else the claim or the fear may seem unfounded. If the claim is unfounded, someone else can upload the image. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:41, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Asclepias. I've asked Jmabel to delete and re upload the image. Curiocurio (talk) 15:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done. @Curiocurio, you may want to check and make sure the current state of the file page is acceptable to you. - Jmabel ! talk 00:13, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

It looks perfect! Thanks Jmabel! Curiocurio (talk) 00:37, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

part of the image as a new image

Hi, I don't know commons and I don't know how to work with it. So I want to ask if someone could make a copy of the inscription of the building from the image File:Musoleum, boční stěna a komín lihovaru 1.jpg. (The inscription on the wall is musoleum) And then save it as a new image. The inscription is in fact a logo that I want to use for the Infobox. Thank you very much for any help 151.249.110.227 20:42, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

• File:Musoleum logo.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 00:21, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Flags and Coats of arms of Venezuela is free license

Ok, with respect to the coats of arms in Venezuela, I read the 1999 Constitution, the constitution of each state and the Organic Law of Municipal Public Power, all coats of arms and flags are public (that is, free licenses). AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: Meaning that no one can do a rendition of it and have any copyright on their rendition? Or just meaning the usual situation that the blazon is public domain? Could you indicate the relevant passage in the Constitution? I couldn't quickly spot it. - Jmabel ! talk 22:59, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Look, the sources Justia

https://docs.venezuela.justia.com › ...PDF

Ley de Bandera Nacional, Himno Nacional y Escudo de Armas de la ...

https://docs.venezuela.justia.com › ...PDF

Ley de Bandera Nacional, Himno Nacional y Escudo de Armas de la ... AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Organization of American States

https://www.oas.org › dil › espPDF

CONSTITUCION DE LA REPUBLICA BOLIVARIANA DE ... AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:40, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

• @AbchyZa22: First 2 links just give me "access denied". Third does not contain anything obviously on point. There are plenty of places where the Venezuelan constitution is available online. What I'm asking for is the relevant passage(s); I did not see anything to this effect on a quick skim. - Jmabel ! talk 23:17, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel: Hello, I spoke with the @NoonIcarus: (he is also a member of Wikimedia Commons) about the topic, the flags and coats of arms in Venezuela are Public (that is, free license) and he told me:Hi. That is correct, national symbols are public domain according to Venezuelan law, which is contemplated in the specific Commons template (commons:Template:PD-VenezuelaGov/es). I think I remember a specific article in which the flag and the shield were specifically mentioned, as long as they were not the object of disrespect, but I can't find it at the moment

  AbchyZa22 (talk) 09:56, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

  • As I've said before: (1) can you please cite the relevant passages in the constitutions and/or law? (2) In any case, for a flag or coat of arms anywhere, there are usually two separate issues: the blazon (the official description of the flag or coat of arms) and the actual rendering (someone's particular rendition of that, if it rises above the usual threshold of originality for copyright). There are few (if any) countries where the former is a copyright issue; the issue is almost always the latter. - Jmabel ! talk 15:38, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

    @Jmabel: Hi sorry, one blazon is a different with have a copyright, 2 the National Flag Law, National Anthem and Coat of Arms of the Republic Bolivarian of Venezuela in Article 1:The National Flag, the National Anthem and the Coat of Arms of the Republic Bolivarian of Venezuela are the symbols of the Homeland and must be venerated by all Venezuelans, and respected by the citizens of the other countries.(this write is a Spanish with country),but all Flags and Coats of arms (states, Municipalities) in Venezuela are the symbols in free-licensed (public), is a recommended the "PD-VenezuelaGov" all flags and Coats of arms are Public Domain.

    AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

    • @AbchyZa22: that doesn't make a lot of sense. I know I asked you before to use English on this page because you said on your user page that you were a native English speaker, but from what you wrote here it is pretty clear that you are not. Could you try saying that in Spanish? And you really might change that Babel box on your user page. - 18:44, 18 October 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmabel (talk • contribs)

      @Jmabel: Hola lo siento,ya arregle mi perfil soy nativo en español, OK te respondo, un blasón es diferente con derechos de autor,segundo: la Ley de la Bandera Nacional, Himno Nacional y Escudo de la República Bolivariana de Venezuela en el Artículo 1: La Bandera Nacional, el Himno Nacional y el Escudo de la República Bolivarianos de Venezuela son los símbolos de la Patria y deben ser venerados por todos los venezolanos, y respetados por los ciudadanos de los demás países, pero todas las Banderas y Escudos (estados, Municipios de Venezuela eran 23 estados y 335 Municipios de Venezuela) en Venezuela son los símbolos en licencia libre (públicos), es recomendado por el "PD-VenezuelaGov" todas las banderas y escudos son de dominio público.

      AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:56, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

      • @AbchyZa22 Me parece que no entiendes mi punto. Trato otra vez, en español. Por lo que me has mostrado no queda duda de que los diseños/blasones de las banderas, escudos, etc. de Venezuela son de dominio público. La pregunta queda: ¿eso significa que si (por ejemplo) hago mi propia interpretación de un escudo de armas venezolano, eso necesariamente es de dominio público en Venezuela, o la interpretación puede llevar derechos de autor? La verdad es que no tengo ni idea. Ninguna de las respuestas me sorprendería en lo más mínimo. - Jmabel ! talk 18:26, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

        @Jmabel: Por ejemplo si tu haces un Escudo de Armas (ej:Escudo de Armas del Municipio Cruz Paredes del Estado Barinas, Venezuela) de manera oficial eso esta permitido por que son de licencia libres según la ley venezolana, pero es recomendable agregar el "PD-VenezuelaGov" por que las Banderas y Escudos de Armas son de Dominio Público (Public Domain)

        AbchyZa22 (talk) 18:37, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

        • @AbchyZa22 Estoy de acuerdo. ¿Estarías de acuerdo en que lo que sabemos es que si hace su propia interpretación de un escudo de armas venezolano, Commons puede aceptarlo ({{PD-VenezuelaGov}} + su propia licencia para su trabajo), pero es probable qu no pueda cargar una interpretación hecho por otra persona faltando una licensia del creador? - Jmabel ! talk 19:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

          @Jmabel: Si, esta permitido, pero si tú descargas un Escudo de Armas en Venezuela de manera oficial inspirados por otros también está permitido pero debe agregar el "PD-VenezuelaGov" por que son de Dominio Público.

          AbchyZa22 (talk) 09:26, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Kind regards. I will continue this in English for other editors, if that's alright. First, I wanted to know if you believe the issue has been solved. As far as I understand, one of the restrictions on the use of the flag, coat of arms and other national symbols is that they must not be degraded or subjected to ridicule, if I'm not mistaken. I could have sworn reading that years ago, but I'm not able to find it. You can also use Template:Translation for previous and for future comments, if you wish. Please let me know if I can help further with the issue. Best wishes, --NoonIcarus (talk) 10:33, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Summarizing for those who do not speak Spanish

The copyright laws cited at {{PD-VenezuelaGov}} make it clear that Venezuelan flags, coats of arms, etc., are in the public domain (although there are certain non-copyright restrictions about using symbols respectfully, etc.). AbchyZa22 disagree as to just how broadly this works, but we both agree that anyone can make their own rendering of these emblems and upload them to Commons. In his interpretation, if I understand correctly, any rendering of the flag or emblem is simply in the public domain in Venezuela, and {{PD-VenezuelaGov}} is the only tag needed. I think it is possible that he is right, but I also think it is possible that (much as with coats of arms in many European countries) that an individual rendering of a Venezuelan flag or coat of arms (if above the threshold of originality) might be able to carry copyright, and might need an additional license from the person who rendered it.

In particular, beyond the matter of what tags to use, under his interpretation you could upload any third-party rendering of such a flag or coat of arms, and simply tag it as {{PD-VenezuelaGov}}. Under my understanding, for anything above the threshold of originality, the person who rendered the image would have to offer a license as well.

Please do not further add to this section, unless AbchyZa22 wants to add if he thinks I mischaracterized his view. - Jmabel ! talk 18:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Further discussion

I know we've ended up here on the talk page with a discussion that might better have been on Commons:Village pump/Copyright, but here we are. Pinging @Clindberg whose thoughts I'd really like to hear, and please feel more than free to ping anyone else who is likely to bring expertise. - Jmabel ! talk 18:55, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Logos en Venezuela son Públicos (Licencias libres)

Buenas, según la ley venezolana los logos (Gobierno de Venezuela, Ministerios, Institutos Autónomos, Gobernaciones, Alcaldías, Concejos Municipales, Consejo Legislativos, Empresas estatales, Partidos políticos,Aeropuertos, Aerolineas,Empresas de Telecomunicaciones, Tarjetas electorales, elecciones,Poderes publicos,etc.) son Públicos (Licencias libres) pero con el Dominio público pero es recomendable agregar el "PD-VenezuelaGov". AbchyZa22 (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Buenas, @AbchyZa22: . Tenía pendiente comentar que no estoy seguro que el dominio público se extienda a entidades locales o a compañías (incluso si son estatales) debido a que, según recuerdo, el dominio público se extiende es a los símbolos patrios nacionales, no necesariamente a aquellos locales, y en el caso de logos o emblemas de compañías su umbral de originalidad/creatividad es mayor. En cualquier caso, no estoy seguro y haría falta consultarlo más a fondo. Saludos,--NoonIcarus (talk) 10:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Good day, @AbchyZa22: . I was meaning to comment that I am not sure that the public domain extends to local entities or companies (even if they are state-owned) because, as I recall, the public domain extends is to national patriotic symbols, not necessarily tolocal ones, and in the case of company logos or emblems their threshold of originality/creativity is higher. In any case, I am not sure and it would needed to be consulted further. Regards,

translator: NoonIcarus (talk) 10:44, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

No answer from the 2nd of October, 2023

On the 2nd of October, 2023 I uploaded three photos to commonsː https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89ljen_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g_Korm%C3%A1nyz%C3%B3ja_!.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89ljen_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g_Korm%C3%A1nyz%C3%B3ja_!_(2).jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%C3%89ljen_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g_Korm%C3%A1nyz%C3%B3ja_!_(3).jpg At the same time the permissions for the three photos were uploaded by the owner of the copyrights. Since then I did not get an answer. Could you help me what's up ? Elekes Andor (talk) 20:37, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Elekes Andor: Did you get a ticket number?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 20:46, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Sure. The ticket links are as followsː TicketNumber=2023100710006581 TicketNumber=2023100710006599 TicketNumber=2023100710006606 The links are on the pages. Elekes Andor (talk) 21:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Elekes Andor: Did you check your spam folder? You forgot to ping me.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: Nothing in my spam folder. --Elekes Andor (talk) 07:05, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@Elekes Andor: The files are marked with a permission received template, which means the permission is in a queue, waiting for an available VRT member to process it. The permission was sent to permissions-hu, not permissions-commons. That is ok, but it might restrict the VRT members who can process that mail. The permissions-hu team may be small and the backlog or the reaction time may be long. The permission received template was added less than three weeks ago. There have been worse backlogs. Maybe you can ask a Hungarian-speaking Commons member, Commons:Volunteer Response Team/List of members by language#Hungarian, if they can access your mail. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

What does it mean "permission-hu" ? What does it mean "permission-commons" ? What does it mean on the pages " If a valid permission is not provided within 30 days of the first response by a VRT agent, this file will be deleted" ? Who is in charge in this question ? First the permission was sent to permissions-hu@wikimedia.org, on the 2nd of October, 2023. why should I contact Hungarian speaking Commons members ? --Elekes Andor (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

As you say, you sent the mail to permissions-hu, the Wikimedia address specific for permissions in Hungarian language. So, it is assumed that you wrote the mail in Hungarian and that you wanted it to be processed by a Hungarian-speaking VRT member. Your comment seemed to be asking for someone who could speed up the processing of your mail. Hence the suggestion to contact a Hungarian-speaking VRT member on Commons who might be able to access and read your mail and help you directly with that. Now, if you sent to the Hungarian-language VRT team a mail written in a language other than Hungarian, I suppose they can identify the language and transfer it easily to the VRT members in that other language, although that might cause some delay if the mail has to successively reach the top of two lines. The 30 days deletion mention should not trouble you since you already sent the permission, assuming it is valid. The person in charge of your communication will be the VRT member who will read your mail when your mail reaches the top of the line. -- Asclepias (talk) 14:12, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Remove old logo

Please can the old logo for Hereford Cathedral School be removed from WikiMedia. This is no longer used by the school. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/49/Hereford_Cathedral_School_Shield.png Thank you. FozzieBear1348 (talk) 14:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

We do not remove old logos from Commons, any more than we remove old photographs. - Jmabel ! talk 15:27, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

This is a copyrighted image owned by the school. You do not own the copyright so do not have the rights to use or share it. I would be grateful if you would remove it ASAP. FozzieBear1348 (talk) 15:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

There is no file of this name on Commons. There is a file of this name on en.wikipedia. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:46, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@FozzieBear1348 This site is wikimedia.commons.org. This site only hosts media that has a free license. The logo that you refer to has - as you say - no free license and is therefore not hosted here. The english-language Wikipedai however has a "fair use" policy. Therefore the logo is hosted under the fair use policy at the english-language wikipedia, and if you want it removed or replaced, you will have to sort this out at the english-language wikipedia with the contributors of the english-language wikipedia. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I deleted this logo as it is unused now. Ruslik (talk) 20:10, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

How do I download an SVG and have it stay an SVG?

I am trying to download this SVG, but whenever I download the SVG it turns into a png, how do I download an SVG and have it stay an SVG when it downloads instead of turning into a png? – Treetoes023 (talk) 02:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Treeetoes023: look for the link on the file page that says "Original file". That's what you want to download. - Jmabel ! talk 05:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: What do I do after I press the "Original file" link? When I right-click on the image that shows up after pressing the link, it doesn't give me an option to download it. – Treetoes023 (talk) 14:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

If you use the "download" link from the description page, I guess it should work if you choose the "full resolution" option. Or did you already try that? -- Asclepias (talk) 14:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Asclepias: this is about an SVG (vector file, not raster), that doesn't work.

Ok, I thought that those links in the download box might do something different from clicking the ordinary links below the images, but I see they are just ordinary links too, only with different sizes. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Treetoes023: For a typical browser, you can right-click on "Original file" and use "Save link as...", or you can left-click on "Original file", then right-click and use "Save page as..." There are other ways as well, but those are probably the two easiest. - Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Am I allowed to upload book cover for Wikipedia article

I am trying to create a Wikipedia article on a book, and would like to use an image of the book cover. I don't believe the book is in public domain so is it even allowed? Spiggotr6 (talk) 04:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Spiggotr6: Typically not here on Commons, unless the cover is so simple as to be below the threshold of originality, or if it uses only public-domain art. But assuming you are talking about the English-language Wikipedia, you can upload it on the English-language Wikipedia for non-free use, which does not involve Commons. See en:File:SotWeedFactor.JPG for a good example of doing this correctly. - Jmabel ! talk 05:32, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the help I figured it out. Spiggotr6 (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Проблемні питання завантаження.

Вітаю, шановні. Рада прийняти участь у конкурсі. Завантажила вже декілька фото. Але є ще ряд питань. Якщо можна, то по-порядку. 1. Маю фото синагоги у місті Верхньодніпровську (Дніпропетровської області), але мого нас.пункту в списку номінації немає Як можна додати населений пункт до номінації "Єврейська спадщина"?. 2. Чи можу я додати не свої фото, заручившись дозволом автора? На жаль, автор досить літня людина і не може сам цього зробити. А фото унікальні, бо ця пам'ятка зовсім не ілюстрована у вікі. 3. Як можна внести додаткові пам'ятки, якщо їх немає у списку по моєму населеному пункту? 4. Що робити, якщо наявні у каталозі пам'ятки вже втрачені?

Щиро і заздалегідь дякую за увагу до моїх питань.

З повагою, Альона Артеменко. АльонАРТ (talk) 10:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Ahonc: can you help out here? Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 15:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

אפשר לעלות תמונות?

האם אני יכולה לעלות תמונות לויקיפדיה? Hannah Backster (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Hannah Backster Yes, you can 20 upper 13:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading a photo on behalf of the owner/subject of the photo

Since the rules about uploading a photo seem to be complex and confusing, I asked the owner of the photo to upload it. He created an account, logged in, but when he went to upload the photo, he got all kinds of error messages about his ip address being blocked for some reason. I have never seen this.

So all I want to do is upload a photo, on behalf of the owner/subject (since he is being blocked for some reason) of the photo to be used on a wiki page for him. Do I need to upload it and still generate an email to him for him to approve? When option do I use for the license in this case?

Thanks, Steve Swilson317 (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• The block thing is weird. There must have been a vandal or long-term problem account using the same IP range. If you know the IP address, and it's stable, you might take this up at COM:AN.
• If they might be able to get in from somewhere else (a different Internet connection) that would probably work. Failing that, there are two other ways to do this:
  • They can upload to a site or page clearly under their control (e.g. their own website, Flickr page or publicly visible social media account), indicate the license there, and you can then cite that as a source when you upload.
  • They can go through the email-based COM:VRT process.
• Either way, they can choose any acceptable license. You would use whatever license they select (I recommend {{CC-BY-SA-4.0}}) and be sure to clarify any necessary attribution (e.g. {{CC-BY-SA-4.0|THAT GUY}}), which produces:

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.

Attribution: THAT GUY

You are free:

• to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work
• to remix – to adapt the work

Under the following conditions:

• attribution – You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
• share alike – If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must distribute your contributions under the same or compatible license as the original.

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0CC BY-SA 4.0 Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 truetrue

Jmabel ! talk 15:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. The image is located in the Gallery section of his own website (https://michaelkollwitz.com/gallery/). Are you saying that he needs to add verbiage on that webpage regarding the license? If so, can you recommend wording? Thanks again! Swilson317 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Swilson317: That website looks like a bunch of pictures of one person, not by one person. Remember that normally the license has to come from the photographer, not the subject of the photo, and it is the photographer, not the subject who needs to be attributed as author. Unless these are self-taken photos with an auto-timer or something like that, permission from the subject's page is likely to be challenged.

That said, and assuming the copyright & credit are clear, the copyright-holder can say something under the photo in question saying something like "This photo is available for reuse under CC-BY-SA 4.0 [which I'd suggest linking to https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en], and should be attributed to NAME GOES HERE." It would be nice (but not necessary) to add "This license allows derivative works and commercial use, but requires correct attribution," to make it clear that the person granting the license knows what they are doing. - Jmabel ! talk 19:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. He did not take the photo, but has purchased the photo from the photographer and owns the rights to use it. I will share this information with him. I have also suggested that he follow-up with Wikimedia to resolve the block, as he should have "normal" access. Swilson317 (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Swilson317: "Rights to use it" may not be quite enough if the copyright was not overtly transferred. I don't know exactly what the VRT people might want on this. If the copyright was transferred, he could probably email them a copy of the transfer document; if he has an unlimited, transferable license, I suspect (but don't know) that would be about the same. But anything short of that might not let him issue the CC license, and the photographer might need to be involved. In any case, besides the aforementioned note on his own website, it would be good to send a copy of the transfer contract to the address given on COM:VRT. I know this sounds like overkill, but I imagine you've been around here long enough to know how often people are mistaken in thinking they have intellectual property rights they don't actually have. - Jmabel ! talk 03:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Error: File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png).

Hi, does anyone know how to fix this error? It kept showing: "Upload warning File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png)."

I'm uploading a new version of a file with higher quality, the file name and file extension are exactly the same for both the Source filename and Destination filename, so I'm not really sure why that error is appearing. Cjse23 (talk) 00:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Cjse23: You can't use a file that is actually a PNG to replace a JPEG. You can (for example) bring it into GIMP and export it as a proper JPEG, then upload that.
• Just to make sure, since you are pretty new here: I hope you have read COM:OVERWRITE. In my experience, most of the time when people think they ought to overwrite a file and don't know exactly how this all works, they are wrong about overwriting being a good idea. - Jmabel ! talk 03:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Can I use a free map of the silk road

Silk road map FABIOUSKA (talk) 08:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Can you tell us which map you are talking about? We don't have prescient powers, so we can't help you until you give more details. Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

I would like to use this map of the silk road for a publication. Thank you File:Silk_road_map.jpg. FABIOUSKA (talk) 13:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

The claim of "own work" there is clearly wrong, so the license is not valid. I'll be nominating that for deletion, and unless something comes up that I don't see, I'd say don't use it for anything. - Jmabel ! talk 14:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Date of created or published image not found

Hello, What happens if you can't get the date that an image was created or published? Thank you, Enedina Vera Max4everr! (talk) 22:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• If this is an issue that needs to be resolved to determine copyright status, it probably means the image should not be uploaded to Commons, under the precautionary principle.
• Otherwise: presumably you can pin it down to some range. E.g. {{circa|1923}} produces "circa 1923
  date QS:P,+1923-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1480,Q5727902
  ", {{other date|before|1937}} produces "before 1937
  date QS:P,+1937-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1937-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
  ", etc. - Jmabel ! talk 23:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Upload pdf - page by page

Hello, It must have been asked before... I have just downloaded 3 beautiful (PD) 1910 volumes/pdfs of Japanese Temples and Their Treasures, consisting of several hundred plates. Is there an upload option that would split these 500 MB+ pdfs into individual jpg pages during upload (preferable), or do I need to split them this end prior to upload? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

• My guess is that anything anyone knows is at Commons:Extracting images from PDF. - Jmabel ! talk

Fotos hochladen

Ich möchte Familienfotos im Besitz meiner Familie hochladen, die ich nicht selbst gemacht habe. Zum Teil sind die Fotos mehr als 70 Jahre alt. Und weiter habe ich Fotos aus Zeitungen der 1930er Jahre oder früher. Wie kann ich diese hochladen? Richifield (talk) 14:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Richifield: Sind Sie der Erbe des betreffenden geistigen Eigentums? - Jmabel ! talk 14:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Ja, bin ich. Richifield (talk) 07:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Oddly edited image - what action to take?

File:PeteBauer.jpg appears to have been edited to make one of the subject's eyes noticeably lower than the other. If you look at the given source, http://www.photoshophalloffame.com/peter-bauer, the image does not appear, but there is a different photo of him in which his eyes are aligned normally. The uploading user, Mayorbauer (talk · contribs), is likely to be Peter Bauer, the subject of the image. He may have made that edit himself (he is in the Photoshop Hall of Fame, after all), although the reason for it isn't clear to me. I'm a bit concerned that either Bauer is having a laugh at our expense or someone else is having a laugh at his expense. What action, if any, should be taken on this image? Apocheir (talk) 03:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@Apocheir: You can nominate the file for speedy deletion (with copyvio and a link to a copy of the original photo). It looks like a modified version of the photo used in his Amazon profile. In this case, it doesn't matter who modified the photo, because the original photo is not credited and sourced, it is on the internet and there is no indication that it is free and the modified file has a false source. The article on en.wikipedia has often been edited and/or vandalized by several accounts using the name of this person. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Downloading an OGG file

I would like to download File:Bob Minor, Synthesised Bell Sounds.ogg. On that page, the link “Download” opens a box with fields for Page URL, File URL, and Attribution, as well as two links, but no way to actually download the OGG file. So how can I download it?

(I asked a different question about the same file at en:Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing#Play an OGG file slower) ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 10:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@SebastianHelm: Click on the link that says "full resolution". That's the download.

If your browser is set up to automatically open the OGG in a new tab or window, you'll need to take a further step of saving that page, using the browser's usual means of saving a page. - Jmabel ! talk 20:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, that solves it. I was confused because ① it says “image file” there, and ② then Chrome opens and plays the OGG. But the window has a “⁝” button, which opens a menu with a “⤓ download” command. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 21:57, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Templated subcategory not visible in parent category

Categories of the form "Category:Churches in the United States photographed in YEAR" are defined by the template {{USA-churchphotoyear}}. I recently modified this template to parent from "Category:Buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR" to "Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR", yet each "Category:Churches in the United States photographed in YEAR" isn't visible in "Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR". See for example Category:Churches in the United States photographed in 2023 and Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in 2023. Is this some kind of indexing bug that has a known workaround? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 15:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

As of this writing, the problem seems to have resolved itself. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 16:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

To recver the file from Nomination of deletion

I'm Asiant22, myself I had uploaded the File:Jishnu Raghavan.jpg now this file is under speed deletion criteria.It was not my own work I had took from Facebook.Please give me a solution, Thanking you Asiant22 (talk) 12:59, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Please read COM:L, we cannot accept works from Facebook if they are not your own work. You could try asking the photographer to contact COM:VRT to grant permission for a free license. Abzeronow (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Miguel Saiz gobernador.jpg

Hello. I believe this file is under fair use since it is an official portrait of an Argentine government official, but I could not find the original picture (this is a cropped version of a photograph taken of the portrait), so I do not know what its license is. Apologies if I erred in uploading this photograph.

--Skyline2023 (talk) 20:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@Skyline2023: Commons does not accept files on a "fair use" basis (and "fair use" is always dependent on the context in which a photo is used, anyway), so if you are correct that its use here in Commons would constitute fair use, that would be a reason to delete it. However, I think it is most likely {{PD-AR-Photo}}. You don't give even an estimated date, though, so I can't be sure of that. - Jmabel ! talk 22:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I am not familiar with copyright terminology so I said "fair use" when I meant copyright-free. Thank you. Skyline2023 (talk) 22:13, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Another artist, another chance for my brand-new author icon

After our first go-round (as detailed at Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/08#Uploading my brand-new author icon to Commons) ultimately went nowhere, here's to hoping our next r/furry artist, "Creation2Station", delivers what I need for my Miraheze sidebar logo/Wikimedia portrait badge. And before you ask, @Jmabel: I reminded him about the VRT process and how much easier it is to state the license on the original RDT post--lessons learned this time. (Sadly, attempts to contact our last guest ["LeoTheFloofyDragon"] re: choosing his license have borne almost no fruit, so his take might as well be staying on his RDT/DeviantART profiles for the foreseeable future.)

Apparently, C2S may be starting to work on that request as I type, so we'll wait and see how it goes this time. Any further advice? --Slgrandson (talk) 02:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

categories of italian military aircraft registrations (Tornado)

I noticed, that in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service aircraft are being listed under their squadron identification code e.g. 6-25 instead of their military registration which is MM7043 in that example (see that number on the tail of this photo).

The point is, that an individual aircraft during its service obtains different squadron identification codes. Watch this photo-collection, where the aircraft MM6970 is beeing seen as 51-04 in 1996 but also as 5-45 in the year 2002 while the military registration remained the same.

Before I start to add this MM.... category (all these are in the Aircraft by registration-category) I need a second opinion on the hierarchy and secondly to my opinion, that one could leave the sqadron code category on these files as they are, as this is actually still another way to find them in the Aircraft by registration-category.

the only weak point is, that I would only add those pictures of a X-XX squadron code to the MM.... code that ere either clearly visible or taken at roughly the same time (in the case of 6-25 all can be added to MM7043).

Hierachy of the categories that I thought of firstyː

-Panavia Tornado in Italian service

-MM7043

-6-25

while both (MM7043 and 6-25) remain in the "Aircraft by registration"-category.

this would mean, that the 6-25 will not be visible in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service anymore. Or would it be better to have these two in there both at the same time?

At the moment, only one aircraft is in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service in both ways; it is MM55002 which is also I-41. (I naturally created MM55002 when uploading, as this is its registration and then realized, that the upper category contains NO MM.... registrations, which is wrong or at least incomplete).

Correct so far and 2nd questionː hierarchy or same level? Anidaat (talk) 08:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Anidaat: are squadron codes permanently unique? Or can two different aircraft have the same squadron code at different times? If they are unique, then they are probably good categories, and should be subcats of the registration number. If they are not unique, then they need further qualification to be good category names.

As for the hierarchy, think about what we do for ships, or at least most modern ships. We have the IMO, which permanently identifies the vessel, and might have any number of categories which combine a name and a date of construction (and, very rarely, a further disambiguator when needed) and are subcats of the IMO cat. Things like what force they were part of are generally associated with the vessel name, not the IMO. - Jmabel ! talk 16:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Editing anothers overexposed photos

I've just signed up for an account and one thing I found I can do is correct photos. When I tried I was asked if it was my photo, but I'm not the original photographer. How do I handle this? Torquepuppies (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

With much caution. A good understanding of Commons:Overwriting files and a knowledge of Commons usages. And a bit of patience until your account gets the possibility to overwrite files. "Correcting" other people's works can be subjective. It's fine where it's appropriate. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Change photo name

When I uploaded File:Red Hill Band 1925.tif I had found sources saying the photo was taken around 1925. I recently found this File:Town And Country - Vol 7 No 12 Pg 1 - June 24 1905.png, which was published in 1905 and contains the photo. So clearly the photo was not taken in 1925, but I included 1925 in the file name. How do I move or rename the file? Also, what are the standard practices for naming conventions of photos on Wikimedia Commons? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

I've renamed the file since the year is an error as you state. Abzeronow (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Please, see Commons:File renaming for more information. Ruslik (talk) 20:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Reversions of Austria-Hungary maps by user GPinkerton

Several weeks ago user GPinkerton reverted several maps of the subdivisions of Austria-Hungary originally created by Ludó (listed below) back to their original 2018 versions, which are full of inaccuracies and anachronistic borders. (Details of the changes made here.) They specified Commons:Overwriting existing files as their justification but provided no additional comments (the summary was simply a link to the policy). I posted a message on their talk page on 6 October asking for further details/explanation, but have had no response.

It is my understanding that the reverted changes would fall under "uncontroversial corrections to diagrams, maps, or charts, if a more accurate version is available". However, I thought it best not to simply re-revert them without first seeking confirmation – I have no intention of starting an upload-war. Is my assessment correct and is it OK to restore the modified versions? If not presumably the "correct" course of action would be to re-upload them under a new file name, change all uses on the various Wikipedias to the corrected versions and tag the originals with {{Superseded}} – if so I assume there is no way to automate the process (it seems like such a tool would be rather prone to abuse) and so it would have to be done manually?

If it is relevant, the files in question had been previously edited by user Claude Zygiel, with whom GPinkerton seems have butted-heads before over uploading "fake" historical maps (i.e. modified versions of old out-of-copyright maps which may give the impression that the modifications are sourced to the original author; see User talk:Claude Zygiel#Manipulating historical maps). GPinkerton also seem to have reverted several other files previously modified by Claude Zygiel on that same day and with the same simple link summary. (See Uploads by GPinkerton.)

Apologies if this is not the right place to post/ask this – if there's a better place please let me know.

Reverted files:

• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Galicie.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Bohême.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Moravie.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Dalmatie.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Basse-Autriche.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Haute-Autriche.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Salzbourg.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Tyrol.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Vorarlberg.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Carinthie.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Carniole.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Styrie.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Bucovine.png
• Empire d'Autriche 1914 Silésie.png

Empire d'Autriche 1914 Goritz et Gradiska.png, Empire d'Autriche 1914 Trieste.png and Empire d'Autriche 1914 Istrie.png were also reverted but had not been edited by me.

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 21:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC) (post edited to remove three of the files from the list, so as not to imply that I had edited them Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 09:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC))

At a quick look in areas where I know the details, your (Alphathon's) maps look more accurate. No one here seems to be citing any sources or listing the discrepancies, which makes it hard to sort out (since one of you could be right on one matter and the other on another). I would say that given the credit of "Own work" by Ludovic Lepeltier-Kutasi, you might do better to upload under a distinct file name as a derivative work and give a summary of what purported errors the changes intend to address, and what your authority is for the changes. Some of the changes were simply aesthetic (darker borders, different shades or hues). - Jmabel ! talk 23:11, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

With the exception of Bosnia and Herzegovina (which was changed so that it would be included in Austria-Hungary) no aesthetic changes were (intentionally) made. However, there seems to be a discrepancy in the colour profiles between the versions which I haven't been able to track down which may account for any such differences. The differences/changes made between the original and modified versions, as well as the main sources, are listed here. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 23:27, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Actually, there were some aesthetic changes made which I had forgotten about – the outer border of Austria-Hungary was changed to black and the coastlines/lake shores to blue. My mistake. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 23:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

To be clear though at no point has GPinkerton claimed (explicitly) that the changes made were erroneous. Rather, it is my interpretation that they are taking an absolutist stance on the Commons:Overwriting existing files policy, i.e. something like "never upload a new version of a file made by someone else". Part of the issue here is that they weren't specific so taking appropriate action to remedy the situation is difficult. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 23:34, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Alphathon: my apologies for not getting back to you earlier; I had forgotten about your question on my talk page which I neglected to answer. I don't have a particular opinion on the accuracy of the maps, and you are right to surmise that the issue is with Claude Zygiel's editing, but it would seem to me that changes to political or historical borders on maps, however minor, is exactly the kind of thing Commons:Overwriting existing files is intended to forbid. In my view, moving swathes of territory from one province to another is the kind of thing over which wars have been fought, and doing so is not at all like changing a resolution here or changing the colour of shading there. With these Austro-Hungarian maps, being digital native maps, I don't think that so much of a problem if a reliable source can be cited or consensus established. What Claude has been doing, in changing photographs of historical paper maps to make them "correct" according to Claude's own synthesis is for me beyond the pale. (See more at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Europe 1097-corrected.jpg.) The fact that you have discussed the changes with another editor is a good thing, even if the original uploader should be consulted where possible, but the fact that this editor was Claude made me feel that such a limited consensus was insecure. Apologies again for the delay in making this more explicit Alphathon. GPinkerton (talk) 23:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for replying @GPinkerton. I understand your position with regard to Claude Zygiel's edits to old maps and don't think it is an unreasonable one, as doing so can imply a source or create the illusion of authority. With maps originally created for Commons however ("digital native maps" as you put it) I do not think that holds, hence the "uncontroversial corrections to diagrams, maps, or charts" exemption. The "uncontroversial" part seems to be key here – if the accuracy (and possibly neutrality) is disputed then obviously it is right that they should be reverted (at least until consensus is reached). If a map has a specific source listed that may be different (assuming it follows the source accurately), especially if it is specifically supposed to show a particular perspective. In this case though no source is listed at all for the original versions, and several of the borders are clearly anachronistic/modern (see the talk page post of a full list) so given the style I would guess they were simply derived from GIS data or similar for modern subdivisions; Bukovina was probably derived from something like this map of the 1940s Bukovina Governate or a map of the inter-war Romanian counties such as this one. On the other hand, the changes I made were sourced, primarily to official Austro-Hungarian maps:

The Austro-Hungarian borders used (internal and external) are mostly derived directly from the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian military surveys, as well as from individual county maps for Hungary/Croatia-Slavonia (available here or on Commons in Category:Old maps of counties in the Kingdom of Hungary and Category:Maps of counties of Croatia-Slavonia) and cross-referenced with maps covering all of Hungary.

It seems to me that official Austro-Hungarian survey and county maps are about as reliable and as far from "controversial" as is possible for an administrative map of Austria-Hungary. The only borders not sourced to the Austro-Hungarian surveys/county maps were the Germany–Russia border, which was sourced from German survey maps (Messtischblätter) (although the same border does appear on the Austro-Hungarian 1:200k survey sheets at a lower level of detail) and some of those in the Balkans which changed following the Second Balkan War (primarily the borders between Serbia, Montenegro and Albania).

What Claude Zygiel has been doing to photographs[/scans] of historical paper maps is really not relevant, as

• my versions of the maps (the current versions before you reverted) were derived from the original versions, not Claude Zygiel's, with the only changes retained from their versions being the re-coloured outer border and Bosnia and Herzegovina (which I re-implemented from scratch),
• all edits should be taken on their own merit, not because a particular user made them (and in this case they did not), and
• these files are not photographs/scans of historical paper maps

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 09:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Alphathon: I completely respect what you are trying to do but when you disagree with someone about a map they uploaded and that you want to overwrite, "mostly sourced from maps on such-and-such website" is only marginally better than no citation at all. It doesn't allow anyone to check your work without doing roughly as much research as you did yourself. Cite individual maps, be specific about what areas you made changes in based on what map. Otherwise, upload to a different file name and make your case on individual Wikipedias to adopt your maps. If you want to just overwrite like this, the standards of citation should pretty much be those typical for Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 16:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. I wasn't really thinking of it as a formal citation (just descriptive prose) at the time so could have been clearer/more explicit, although I don't think "mostly sourced from maps on such-and-such website" is quite fair.

• "...mostly derived directly from the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian military surveys...": This refers to the Franzisco-Josephinische Landesaufnahme (third military survey of the Habsburg Empire) which was conducted by the k.u.k. Militärgeographisches Institut (Imperial and Royal Military-Geographical Institute). The survey itself and the original 1:25K sheets (and 1:75K versions) date from the 1860s–80s, but updated 1:200K sheets were produced in the 1900s and 1910s, which are available on Commons here (along with some of the 19c. sheets). The military surveys are the main official maps of Austria-Hungary, possibly second only to the cadastral maps which define the municipal boundaries. The "mostly" here just refers to the fact that some areas lie beyond the bounds/temporal range of the survey maps, but I see how it could be ambiguous.
• "...individual county maps for Hungary/Croatia-Slavonia...": The website linked to, which is also the source of those available on Commons (and the 1:200K survey sheets (here)), is lazarus.elte.hu, the (old) website of Eötvös Loránd University, Faculty of Informatics, Institute of Cartography and Geoinformatics. (They have a new page at terkep.elte.hu but have kept the old one up presumably to maintain the resources there.) The versions with the coloured districts are credited (on the maps themselves) as Kiadatott a vallás-és közoktatásügyi m. kir. Minister úr megbizásából, which I believe^† is the Royal Hungarian Minister of Religion and Public Education (Vallás- és Közoktatásügyi Minisztérium).
• "...cross-referenced with maps covering all of Hungary" was intentionally broad as I used several maps, but only used them to double check the other sources rather than as sources in-and-of themselves.
  • The main one is A Magyar Állam Közigazgatási Térképe ("Administrative map of the Hungarian state"^†), 1914, credited to A M. Kir. Állami Nyomda Kiadása which I understand^† to be the official royal Hungarian state printer.
  • This map from Stielers Handatlas (hosted by Stanford University's David Rumsey Historical Map Collection) was also used for "cross-referencing". Since it shows essentially the whole region depicted in these maps it can also be used to verify areas beyond Hungary. However, being a 1911 map it has a few minor differences in some of the Hungarian county boundaries (e.g. Pusztamérges is shown as part of Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun rather than Csongrád), and of course does not show the Balkan borders from 1913. (Some of the survey sheets also have this problem. I can see why 1914 was chosen but if the originals had not specified 1914 I would probably have chosen a slightly earlier date.)
  • A few other maps were also used but I don't have them to hand.

† I do not speak Hungarian so my understanding of the texts relies on machine translation, although I have checked the translations to the best of my ability.

As to the specific changes made, I did post a broad list of changes made (quoted here for convenience):

• Bukovina: the original version showed the 1930s Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was much better but still not accurate.
• Various anachronistic/modern boundaries:
  • Tyrol–Italy: the previous versions showed the modern province boundaries (Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol).
  • Carinthia–Italy: the original version showed the modern boundaries while Claude Zygiel's version erroneously added extra territory to the Littoral/Gorizia.
  • Lower Austria–Bohemia/Moravia
  • Styria–Carniola
  • Galicia and Lodomeria: the previous versions used modern Polish Voivodeship and Ukrainian Oblast boundaries among other inaccuracies.
  • Bosnia and Herzegovina: did not include Sutorina and had incorrect borders with Croatia-Slavonia.
  • Balkan states: the previous versions largely showed the modern borders, which did not match those of 1914 (Southern Dobruja was Romanian, Montenegro was larger etc).
• Romania–Hungary/Transylvania border: the original version showed modern Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was better but still not accurate.
• Kotor/Cattaro was missing in the original version and Claude Zygiel's version was inaccurate.
• Hungarian county boundaries: almost all of them had some inaccuracy so I am not sure what the original source was. Claude Zygiel's version also offset them for some reason.
• Teschen/Cieszyn/Těšín borders (Silesia)

...[I also added] a single additional enclave [(Moravian exclave)] – Nové Vrbno/Neu Würben/Goldseifen [– to Austrian Silesia].

I do not think it is practical to list every change specifically, as that would essentially be a list of all the crownlands and Hungarian counties (I think the only completely untouched one is Austria above the Enns/Upper Austria), and most are simply minor border corrections rather than the transfer of specific areas. I can be more specific about some of the changes though. For example, "Lower Austria–Bohemia/Moravia" refers to the areas around Feldsberg/Valtice and Gmünd/České Velenice, which were part of Austria below the Enns/Lower Austria until the 1919 Treaty of Saint-Germain. For the Tyrol–Italy border, the specific differences are the Valvestino, Pedemonte, and Fodom/(Cortina d')Ampezzo, which are now part of Brescia, Vicenza and Belluno respectively but were part of Tyrol (what is now Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol) until shortly after WWI (1920s I think).

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 00:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a mirror of real humanity. In today's humanity, more and more conflicting contradictions replace collaborative work, dogmatism and the blind application of a few rules replace thought, dialogue is useless, any divergent opinion is suspect, any improvement constitutes a fake, and we must faithfully propagate all errors from secondary sources so as not to fall into original research. I'm tired. --Claude Zygiel (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Cover image

Is it legal to put an image on the cover of a book that is to be sold? The following data will be provided: title, author, year, download address ect. Polski

Angielski

Cover image

Is it legal to put an image on the cover of a book that is to be sold? The following data will be provided: title, author, year, download address 5.173.188.89 13:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• There is no general answer to that question. Are you talking about some specific image? If it is an image on Commons, any specific requirements to license the image will be stated on the Commons file page of the image. Different images on Commons have different requirements. If you've looked there and still don't know what to do, please link the relevant file page here so someone can give you a concrete answer. - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Refrencing Wikimedia

Who do I reference as the owner for Wikimedia (Bibliography) 146.95.224.105 19:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• I absolutely don't understand that question. Is there some particular page whose content you are trying to reference? And where are you trying to reference it? - Jmabel ! talk 00:22, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Misspelled category

The commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Letzte Genration, Berlin, 2023-05-10 should be spelled "Generation". See w:de:Letzte Generation. I would normally set about fixing it myself, but I am a bit snowed under at the moment. Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 20:26, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

•  Done, now Category:Letzte Generation, Berlin, 2023-05-10. - Jmabel ! talk 00:28, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Replace primary subject photo for 'Mihail Chemiakin'.

I would like to replace the primary image on the page 'Mihail Chemiakin'. The photo I wish to use is a personal file at this point. What steps would I need to follow in order to accomplish this? Alan Lamb - USA (talk) 21:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Alan Lamb - USA: I'm not at all sure what you mean by "the page 'Mihail Chemiakin'." There is no gallery page Mihail Chemiakin on Wikimedia Commons (this website). I'm guessing you mean some other WMF project, but have no way to know which. Maybe en:Mihail Chemiakin (because I don't offhand see any other exact matches)?
• Assuming that the photo you want to replace it with is either in the public domain or free-licensed, first upload it here to Commons with the appropriate license tag (probably using Commons:UploadWizard if you are a beginner), source info, etc. Then you can edit the article to change what image it references. For the latter, see Wikipedia:Wikimedia_Commons#Embedding_Commons'_media_in_Wikipedia_articles. - Jmabel ! talk 00:39, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

File overwriting not allowed

I often used the function "Upload a new version", but today I always get the message "File overwriting not allowed". I tried pictures with every lisence and none worked. Is there a new rule in place recently? If so, please clear all files, which are not allowed to be overwritten, of the "Upload a new version" button. It is really annoying to be given an option, that doesn't actually exist. - If this is not the case and the problem has a solution, please advise. Thanks in advance. MenkinAlRire (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

OK, I discovered the guideline edit from 28 October, where a stricter rule was implemented. This is hard to swallow, that every time I improve an image for better use in an article, I have to ask for an exception or upload it anew, so that I have to change the filenames in the page(s) I am editing. You may take my image edits as example, if they are really not an improvement, even if the edits may be more than minor. I wonder, how the banner is triggered; it has to be a quantitative measure, I suppose. Anyway, it's frustrating. MenkinAlRire (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@MenkinAlRire: Please, if you are uploading another version of the same image under a different name, link them either with {{Other version}} or {{Derivative works}} / {{Derived from}}. - Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

There was no way to tell. I am just learning the new ways;) But, sincerely, how could I know that? Until Yesterday it all went smooth. And now restrictions are gone into effect. I just followed the proposed way to use the upload wizard. There are no notifications or instructions whatsoever. And I wouldn't even know, where to link them (under 'source'?). MenkinAlRire (talk) 03:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@MenkinAlRire: under "other versions" (which is in {{Information}} and quite a few other templates). Do I take it that up to now you have never modified a file in a way that required also preserving the prior version? That's unusual, for what it's worth. - Jmabel ! talk 06:14, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: if there is no other version, I don't see any (possible) entry of that kind, so I have to know about the possibility of the addition first. Now I know, and I will use it, if indicated. Thank you.) - I wouldn't upload a new version, if I wasn't sure, that the edited image is better than before. The original file isn't destroyed, everyone may compare the versions (and in case reverse my version; I wouldn't fight it). I am usually rather annoyed about the number of bad images, that I have to examine one by one, before I choose the best to put in an article. And often I edit them, tilt, colour, shadows, light, sharpness, colour aberration, and try to enhance its clearness, that is to expose all information that I can get out of it (It is not a question of asthetics whatsoever). Balancing the tilt might lead to some context cut away. But substantially cropped versions I am always uploading as a new image (for which, I will follow your advice from now on). Hence I don't really understand your remark, that it would be unusual. - By the way, the obligatory new name differs only in a supplement at the end (e.g. _1, b or cropped) of the original filename as unsufficient as I may find it; otherwise I would have made an unintentional error. MenkinAlRire (talk) 21:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Sharpening can actually be pretty controversial. It can introduce artifacts. I, for one, generally prefer to make my own decisions about what post-processing I want on my photos, and while I've had a few times where someone definitely improved a photo of mine, I've had far more where a change was not an unambiguous improvement, and I've reverted it. No comment on your particular edits here, which I haven't really studied, and if you've never or almost never been reverted then you are probably doing it well. - Jmabel ! talk 00:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I am rather scrupolous, especially with sharpening. Almost always jpgs are already processed in the camera to its limits, but with too much saturation and drowned shadows. Images taken with bigger machines that are uploaded as they are often have room for improvement. As I said, the details are key, since wiki should provide information and is not a forum to show off with your nicest pictures (night scenes..., arrgh!) or even just to dumb your memory card here and to use it as your cloud (and let others do the work). If you edit the images yourself you should be safe from me,)

Another thing, maybe you might help, since yesterday I cannot log in on my tablet and phone anymore, where I was always logged in. On PC it's fine. I deleted cookies and tried again without success, always: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form." If you don't know anything about it, you might have an idea where to look or who to ask. Thanks for your tip and the conversation, MenkinAlRire 2A02:8071:5072:9060:3C29:7006:10D1:37F4 13:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Uploading >70 year old photos

Hello, is it legal to upload photos of Eduard Grüneisen from his obituary published in 1949 at doi.org/10.1002/andp.19494400102, and also from the document uni-marburg.de/de/fb13/fachbereich/profil/das-physikalische-institut-von-1933-bis-1945.pdf published by University of Marburg Physics Department in 1996? I guess the photos have lost their copyright since it has been more than 70 years that they were taken? Thanks for the help, --Blue.painting (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, This is most probably in the public domain in Europe. However it may have its copyright renewed in USA by URAA. Yann (talk) 10:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Vita Zaverukha.jpg

Hello! Please help me correctly install the license for this file. Articles about Vitu Zaviruha need illustration, but a suitable photo cannot be uploaded. Sincerely, Yarkovesh (talk) 13:59, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Deleted the file since it was a copyright violation (it's from Elle's French magazine). I disagree with the notion that articles need illustration, but you should check local wikipedia's policies on non-free content like m:Non-free content if a free photograph cannot be found. Abzeronow (talk) 15:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

I am going to upload media from an official Wikimedia Germany Event which is not my own work - Do you need VRT permission by WMDE or even individuals in your queue?

Hi, in consent with WMDE, I am going to upload a couple of videos featuring presentations from WikiCon 2023 (German speaking Wikimedia conference). Does Wikimedia Commons require {{Permission pending}} for them? Thanks for your help in advance. -- WikiCon2023Uploads (talk) 16:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@WikiCon2023Uploads: copyright necessarily belongs to the person who owns the copyright (that is, the person who took the video). It would be simplest if they uploaded it themself, but if for some reason that is not convenient, assuming they have an account you can attribute to them and they can just log in and confirm the permission on the file talk page instead of going through VRT. - Jmabel ! talk 17:47, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. You'll see it's oftentimes a complex copyright situation where not only a single speaker can claim copyright over the entire work and the encoding and upload stuff is also somewhat complicated, so no, not all users would be even able to upload; not even all of them have accounts tied to their names real names, which they might have used. We'll probably go through VRT because that simplifies the process for me. -- WikiCon2023Uploads (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

I hadn't considered that the presentations would themselves each be copyrighted, but, yeah, they would be. Good luck in clearing this up. I hope people signed releases of some sort in advance, it would make this all a lot simpler. - Jmabel ! talk 20:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

foto young birds

Beste, ik heb de foto young birds opgeladen op de pagina van radio gemini maar zie hem niet verschijnen. Hoe komt het ? merci thierry missiaen Thierry Missiaen (talk) 08:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

photo young birds

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Dear, I have uploaded the photo young birds to the radio Gemini page, but I do not see it appear. How come ? thanks thierry missiaen

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Thierry Missiaen: Hallo, en welkom. File:Webradio Gemini.png is verwijderd omdat het auteursrechtelijk beschermde tekst bevatte. File:Gemini advertentie.jpg is verwijderd per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gemini advertentie.jpg. Besteed meer aandacht aan de berichten op uw gebruikersoverlegpagina.

Hi, and welcome. File:Webradio Gemini.png was deleted because it contained copyrighted text. File:Gemini advertentie.jpg was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gemini advertentie.jpg. Please pay more attention to the posts on your user talk page.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G. and Thierry Missiaen: I believe those weren't the photos in question. Thierry Missiaen has asked this elsewhere and I've answered elsewhere. Of course, things would be simpler if people didn't ask exactly the same question at almost the same time on multiple pages. - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Beste Jeff

Kan je de pagina 'radio gemini' op gebied van layout een beetje verbeteren ? Ikzelf ben niet in staat dit te doen.

Vriendelijk dank.

Thierry Missiaen Thierry Missiaen (talk) 16:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@Thierry Missiaen: Ik heb "links|" toegepast naar elke andere afbeelding bovenaan en de laatste voor nl:Radio Gemini.

I applied "left|" to every other image at top and the last one for nl:Radio Gemini.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 22:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Chicago Principles

Do we have an image of the 2020 John Ellison "free speech principles" letter to the incoming University of Chicago freshman class? If not, is there a copyright issue, or can this document be added to Commons (see here and here)? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: Certainly any non-trivial letter written in the last several decades is copyrighted, with the exception of letters written in a work capacity by the employees of the federal government and certain state and local governments that make their works PD by default. University of Chicago is a private college, so those exceptions could not possibly apply. Do you have any evidence of a free license? - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

No evidence whatsoever. It's widely published and a copy is available on the U of C site here, but nothing specifically indicating PD. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: Then we cannot host it through 2020+95=2115, unless we get valid permission via VRT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 20:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Noted and thanks for clarifying. I'm still struggling to grasp the nuances of what's ok and what's not here. Also guessing that a "fair-use" upload directly to enwiki for the relevant section of the Chicago Principles article would be a dead-end too? [NB: I'll make a note in my calendar to upload it in 2115 if we don't get it on Commons via VRT (or some other legitimate process) sooner.] Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@Cl3phact0: You're welcome, but see en:WP:F to be sure.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Descargar logos con mi cámara

Buenas una pregunta si yo tomo fotos de una institución (con mis derechos de autor) y después descargo a Commons y si descargo un Logo de una institución qué aparece en las afueras de la sede (en el que yo descargue) es necesario agregar el "Derived from" (Derivative versions)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Download logos with my camera

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Hello, a question if I take photos of an institution (with my copyright) and then download to Commons and if I download a Logo of an institution that appears outside the headquarters (in which I download) is it necessary to add the "Derived from" (Derivative versions)??

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 22:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: Buenas. Sí, es necesario. El arquitecto(s) (en el caso del edificio(s) de la institución) y el diseñador del logotipo tienen derechos de autor que deben respetarse. Sin embargo, puede aplicarse FOP. ¿En qué país fotografiaste la institución y el logo?

Hi, and welcome. Yes, it is necessary. The architect(s) (in the case of the institution's building(s)) and the logo designer have copyrights that must be respected. However, FOP may apply. In what country did you photograph the institution and logo?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 22:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: Tomé la sede (Edificio) de la Alcaldía del Municipio Cruz Paredes del Estado Barinas, Venezuela.

AbchyZa22 (talk) 06:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22: Veas tambien al COM:FOP Venezuela.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Why was Chesebro mug shot removed?

Someone removed from Wikimedia the mug shot of Kenneth Chesebro.

All that seems to remain is this:

00:00, 25 October 2023 Explicit talk contribs deleted page File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp (F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1) Tag: Twinkle (thank)* 00:00, 25 October 2023 Explicit talk contribs deleted page File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp (F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1) Tag: Twinkle (thank)

I didn't upload the photo but have been editing the Chesebro article and don't understand why this happened.

Please advise why this was done. Thanks Utahredrock (talk) 01:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Utahredrock: There was never a File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp on Commons. en:File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp was, in fact, deleted, but Commons was not involved. I'd guess it was deleted on more or less the same basis as File:Kenneth Chesebro booking photo Fulton County Georgia.png, which was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Copyright violations. The history on en-wiki describes the former file as "replaceable fair use," which is to say it was neither PD nor free-licensed, and since he is a living person it should, in principle, be possible to take a photo of him and free-license it. - Jmabel ! talk 05:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: We can't travel back in time to before his mugshot photo was taken in order to recreate that photo ourselves.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: en-wiki could decide it was fair use in an article -- not our affair here -- but that changes nothing for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

You did ask a similar question here, and I gave you a similar answer about why en-wiki probably couldn't accept such a photo on a "fair use" basis. - Jmabel ! talk 05:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Logos con Escudo de Armas y/o Banderas en Venezuela

Buenas, se puede descargar Logos con Escudo de Armas y/o Banderas en Venezuela (qué todavía existe en Wikimedia) de una Alcaldía, Concejo Municipal etc. pero inspirados por otros, es necesario agregar "Derived from" (Derivative versions)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@AbchyZa22 Buenas. Veas al {{PD-VenezuelaGov}} y COM:DW.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Uploading images

i have tried to upload my own work drawing,and it can't continue because I have low momery

@Everyone who had this issue I need your help ?

@Piet Tumelo Nzimande Piet Tumelo Nzimande (talk) 06:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Piet Tumelo Nzimande: Hi, and welcome. Have you tried rebooting or using another device?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:31, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

how do I upload a page that I have written?

I wrote a whole page on Wikipedia NL, but it is not published. How do I publish the page? Klaubert (talk) 13:43, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Klaubert: For a detailed answer, you'd really have to take that up with Wikipedia NL, but you don't "upload" a page to Wikipedia, you have to write it within the wiki (either in wikitext or with the visual WYSISYG editor). You can copy-paste text from (for example) a text file or Word doc to start the article but (for example) you need to use Wikipedia's own method of footnoting and highlighting. - Jmabel ! talk 14:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

@Klaubert: It is now published at nl:Marcel Sijm and partially at User talk:Klaubert.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

The version on your user talk page was oos for Commons.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Logotype

I wish to upload a brand new logotype for the school Hvilan Utbildning in Skåne, Sweden. Do I need the written permission from the school's president? If so, where shall I send that permission? Klurik123 (talk) 11:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Hello. If the logo is below the COM:threshold of originality, then no permission is needed, and you can upload it here as public domain. Otherwise, the permission you would need is for the holder of the copyright to release it under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, which would allow anybody to reuse or alter it for any purpose (commercial or not) as long as they attributed the source. It is possible your institution would agree to this, but it seems unlikely. See COM:Licensing for more information.

If you are wanting to use the logo in a Wikipedia article, then some Wikipedias allow non-free content in some situations. For example, in English Wikipedia, en:WP:Logos tells you how you can use logos. I don't know whether Swedish Wikipedia allows this or not. ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@Klurik123 and ColinFine: Swedish Wikipedia allows no fair use per m:nfc and has no files per m:List of Wikipedias having zero local media files. See also COM:TOO Sweden.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Uploading a photo

I's trying to upload a photo for a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anand_Jon And I'm having difficulty doing it. It's just a simple photo. so I'm not sure why it has to be such a process... Sethbaby123 (talk) 15:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

• @Sethbaby123: is it a photo you took yourself? If not, how does it come to be either in the public domain or free-licensed? - Jmabel ! talk 00:21, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

  Yes it's a photo I took myself trying to upload it from my computer. Sethbaby123 (talk) 15:16, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

  • @Sethbaby123: you don't say what tool you were using, or what error message you got, but try it with Special:UploadWizard and if it still doesn't work then come back here with some specifics and someone can probably help you. - Jmabel ! talk 16:57, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Anita Hoffman with son.jpg

Does the file Anita Hoffman with son.jpg have a free license? NoonIcarus (talk) 12:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

It's clearly licensed under CC-BY-SA-4.0. I think the question you meant to ask is whether a user whose only contribution to the project is this photo is in a position to provide such a license. Have you performed an image search to determine any prior publication?RadioKAOS (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

NoonIcarus, RadioKAOS, Tineye fails to find it. Google lens finds multiple items, but is relatively silent on the dates, so is hard to determine whether the hits came first or the Commons upload. More research is required to determine this. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 14:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

https://kids.kiddle.co/Abbie_Hoffman dates the picture as taken in 1972 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 14:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

Taken from Wikipedia / Commons. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

The upload occurred the day before the comment at File talk:Abbie Hoffman and Johanna Lawrenson.jpg. It's reasonably possible that the Commons copy was the first publication and was uploaded by or on behalf of someone with access to the original photo. However, it's not sourced as own work, but it's sourced from family archives and credited to Leah Kushner. As such, it would require evidence that the license was offered by the actual copyright owner. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

See Anita Hoffman with son.jpg. I think we have this well sorted out now as being uploaded by a legitimate heir, but if anyone still sees a need for VRT, please do it sooner rather than later. Or I'd be willing to publish the correspondence here, but with email addresses suppressed. - Jmabel ! talk 00:15, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@RadioKAOS and Jmabel: Hi. I'm sorry, that's correct. From the description I could see that the source was family photos. If there aren't issues with the copyright because of this, then that's alright. --NoonIcarus (talk) 01:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Is my email registered with the WikiLovesMonuments 2023 contest?

Hello - I'm terrible at this sort of thing. I entered the above-mentioned contest last week, but only just now realized that I was supposed to click a link in an email in my inbox to confirm/register my email address so that I can be notified if I happen to place/win a prize in the contest. I just clicked the link in that email but it says that the link has expired. How can I get a new link? Thanks for any help! Diane Stanton/MyMiskyStinks56 MyMiskyStinks56 (talk) 16:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

• @MyMiskyStinks56: You'd really have to ask that at Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments/Help desk. - Jmabel ! talk 17:51, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

@MyMiskyStinks56: Hi, and welcome. I am allowed to email you, so you should be eligible.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Jeff!  :) MyMiskyStinks56 (talk) 16:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

@MyMiskyStinks56: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 04:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)

Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file.

I was trying to change [:File:Zigzag theorem 2.pdf] to svg and created the svg by typing the below command in power shell:

latex zigzagsvg2

dvisvgm --font-format=woff2 zigzagsvg2

But I failed to upload the file. Would you give me some advice? Silvermatsu (talk) 18:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

• Convenience link: File:Zigzag theorem 2.pdf - Jmabel ! talk 22:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting the link. Also, it was ".tex -> .dvi -> .svg" rather than ".pdf -> .svg" to be exact. --Silvermatsu (talk) 08:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

@Silvermatsu: are you saying you've successfully created an SVG and cannot upload it? Are you trying to use it to overwrite the PDF (impossible) or just trying to upload it as a new file? What upload tool are you using, and what error message do you get? - Jmabel ! talk 20:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. When I uploaded a new file using the Upload Wizard, the upload failed with the error message Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file. . --Silvermatsu (talk) 04:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@Silvermatsu: Please review Commons:Help desk/Archive/2022/08#How to fix "Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file." error?.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: Thank you for your advice. Lambiam converted the file to svg. File:Zigzag theorem 2.svg. --Silvermatsu (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@Silvermatsu: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Photos after 1928

I found a bunch of photos of the Red Hill Band in the Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center archive. I've uploaded all of the images that were taken before 1928. What does the process look like for uploading the photos after 1928? I have photos from the 1940s (one of a parade and another of their first car), I have one of the 1950 anniversary concert, I have a photo of the band at the New Goshenhoppen band shell in 1975, and one from 2002 at the Upper Perkiomen High School. I also have a poster for one of their concerts in 1970 and the poster for their 100th year anniversary (looks like their was a design contest for it). The band itself is still around and the members I've contacted have expressed interest in uploading any photos I can find. I asked the librarian at the Schwenkfelder who sent me the photos if it would be okay to upload them to Wikipedia and they said yes as well. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:04, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

The process for post-1928 American photographs is essentially finding out the provenance of the photographs, which would hopefully tell you when they were published and if they had a copyright notice. Before 1978, published works needed copyright notice in order to gain a copyright, and there is U. S. law that publication before 1978 occurred when the photograph left the custody of the original photographer. For a 2002 photograph, you'd need to have the photographer contact COM:VRT to grant permission for a free license since a 2002 photograph is automatically copyrighted. Abzeronow (talk) 16:02, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

@Abzeronow: I believe most of these pictures have been taken by people closely associated with the band. Many of the photos were kept by LeRoy Shultz and eventually donated to the Schwenkfelder Heritage Center. A few of them were donated by a women, but they didn't have the name of the person. I asked about licensing and copyrights on one of the photos a while back and the librarian said it didn't have a license or copyright. Should I contact the librarian again and confirm that none of these have a copyright? If you had to obtain a copyright notice through some formal process then I highly doubt that any of them had a copyright notice. How would I confirm this? TipsyElephant (talk) 01:55, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Clindberg: , there would have to be a "copyright" or a copyright symbol with the year somewhere with the photograph if it were published before 1978. Do you know when these were donated? Abzeronow (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

If they were were distributed individually before 1989 then yes there needed to be a copyright symbol or the word "copyright" (or abbreviation) somewhere. If they were part of a publication, then a copyright notice for the entire publication would cover any photos inside (other than advertisements). Note that the date starts from publication, not from when they were actually taken. Anything published before 1964 also needed to have its copyright renewed with the US Copyright Office, which was exceedingly rare with individual photos. It gets more difficult with private photos; those could have been unpublished. Although if someone gave out prints at the time, that could well be publication (there was no clear definition in law, so it's always muddy). If they were donated to the center before 1989 they are probably fine. If they were prints distributed around at the time (so one person could collect them) they are probably fine. If they were personal photos not donated before 1989, that could be a technical problem. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Abzeronow and Carl Lindberg: I've contacted the librarian to hopefully get more information. None of the photos have copyright symbols anywhere on them (front or back). They were donated in two batches. One was donated by LeRoy Shultz and another was donated by a woman who was in the band. Some of the images were distributed locally as postcards and some of them identified names of people in the picture with a phone number to call if you recognized any of the unidentified people. I don't when these were distributed, but I would guess it was before 1989. Some of the photos have been used in newspaper articles. If they were used in newspaper articles after 1989 will that be a problem? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Clindberg: looks like I got your username wrong the first time around so I'm re-pinging you. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

If they are postcards from before 1989 with no notice they are definitely fine. You had to have a notice on all copies (well, at least most) so publication elsewhere would not matter.

I just found one that was not a postcard as far as I'm aware that was published in a newspaper in 1950. Would that be okay as well?

Almost certainly. You can check this page for the newspaper to see when its first renewals were for. If not listed, or a later date than 1950, it's fine. Carl Lindberg (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

@Clindberg and Abzeronow: I was going to use the upload wizard to upload these photos, but I don't see an option for photographs taken between 1928 and 1989 with no copyright notices. Which option should I be selecting in the upload wizard to properly upload the photos? TipsyElephant (talk) 16:30, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: 1928 through 1977 without notice => {{PD-US-no notice}}. 1978 through 28 February 1989 without notice, and without subsequent registration within 5 years => {{PD-US-1978-89}}. If there's no easy way to do it in the Wizard, just make the correction by editing promptly after uploading. - Jmabel ! talk 17:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

@TipsyElephant: Choose "This is someone else's work and is free to share" and then "Another reason not mentioned above" and enter {{PD-US-no notice}} or {{PD-US-1978-89}} in the box as appropriate. --bjh21 (talk) 00:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Descargar sedes de Instituciones inspirados por otros

Buenas se puede descargar fotos de sedes de Instituciones (Alcaldías, Gobernaciones, etc.) en Venezuela, inspirados por otros (por ejemplo si busco en Google una sede de una Alcaldía del Municipio Maracaibo del Estado Zulia, Venezuela)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 14:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

• ¿"Sede" en el sentido de un edificio? ¿o en algún otro sentido? Y, ¿que significa "inspirados" aquí? Si la foto es grabado por otra persona, los derechos del autor pertenecen al fotógrafo. - Jmabel ! talk 16:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel: Por ejemplo si descargo en google una foto del arquitecto de una institución pero es grabado por otra persona esta permitido hacer "Upload"??

  AbchyZa22 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

  • En general, no. Como he dicho, los derechos del autor pertenecen al fotógrafo. Si los derechos de autor han expirado, resultando en la obra siendo ahora en el dominio público, entonces sería aceptable sobre esa base. En Venezuela, los derechos del autor duran 60 años después de la muerte del autor. - Jmabel ! talk 23:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

    @Jmabel:Buenas según las leyes en Venezuela (según mis recuerdos la qué leí hace años) con respecto a este tema las fotos del arquitecto grabados por otros en Venezuela son totalmente Públicos (Licencias libres). AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:45, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

    @AbchyZa22: Necesitamos citas de leyes o casos judiciales para respaldar sus recuerdos.

    We need citations of laws or court cases to back up your memories.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:08, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

    @Jeff G.:Con respecto a eso, según "Commons:Licencias" dice que se puede subir tus fotografías de artes antiguas, estatuas y edificios en la parte abajo derecha. AbchyZa22 (talk) 11:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

    @AbchyZa22: Eso depende de qué tan antiguos sean los elementos representados. Nuestro estándar con {{PD-old-assumed}} es de al menos 120 años. Nuestro estándar con {{PD-Venezuela}} es 60 años después de la publicación para "una obra audiovisual, una fotografía, una obra televisiva o un programa de computadora" y 60 años después de la muerte del autor para otras obras según el “[http:// www.wipo.int/wipolex/es/details.jsp?id=3989 Ley Venezolana sobre Derecho de Autor de 14 de agosto de 1993, Art. 25, 26 y 38]” (detalles).

    That depends on how ancient or antique the depicted items are. Our standard with {{PD-old-assumed}} is at least 120 years. Our standard with {{PD-Venezuela}} is 60 years past publication for "an audiovisual work, a photograph, a broadcast work or a computer program" and 60 years past death of the author for other works per the “Venezuelan Law on Copyright of August 14th, 1993, Art. 25, 26 and 38” (details).   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 11:06, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Image accessibility

There's an image - File:Sygreversed.png - that has poor accessibility due to use of white on a white background. The original uploader appears to no longer be on Wikimedia. Is there any type of template or tag I could add to the page or other way of alerting other editors to this page that the image needs editing/adjusting/altering for accessibility so as many people as possible can properly read and view the it? Helper201 (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

https://w.wiki/7pLU Buyzed (talk) 21:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@Buyzed: What does that link have to do with the topic of this section?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 21:42, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

File:Sygreversed.png

@Helper201: This version seems meant to be used with an added background to the choice of the user. There seems to be no free license at the source. If this logo is not free, it can't be on Commons. If it is free, you can make a request to the Commons:Graphic Lab for a version with a specific background. -- Asclepias (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

@Helper201: I could not find a free license at the source, so I tagged it as a copyvio.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 10:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)