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Tech News: 2019-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes

• RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata. [1]
• MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment. [2]
• codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code. [3]
• On several wikis, an account named "Abuse filter" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems

• In AbuseFilter, the "Throttle" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them. [4]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings

• Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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18:29, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 November or Thursday, 10 November 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

1. Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
2. Test out using captions on Beta Commons.
3. Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have anything you'd like to say prior to release.

Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a link to join, are on Meta.

Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the IRC office hour on Thursday. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Captions in January

The previous message from today says captions will be released in November in the text. January is the correct month. My apologies for the potential confusion. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

My apologies if this is a duplicate message for you, it is being sent to multiple lists which you may be signed up for.

Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 January or Thursday, 10 January 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

1. Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
2. Test out using captions on Beta Commons.
3. Leave feedback about the test on the captions test talk page, if you have anything you'd like to say prior to release.

Additionally, there will be an IRC office hour on Thursday, 10 January with the Structured Data team to talk about file captions, as well as anything else the community may be interested in. Date/time conversion, as well as a link to join, are on Meta.

Thanks for your time, I look forward to seeing those who can make it to the IRC office hour on Thursday. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

File:Samira Makhmalbaf-OIL PAINTING.jpg

File:Samira Makhmalbaf-OIL PAINTING.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

84.62.84.34 23:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

File:Metro Amsterdam Map.png

File:Metro Amsterdam Map.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Eriksw (talk) 15:44, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Aleksandra Jakubowska.JPG

Dzień dobry.

Bardzo proszę o wyrażenie opinii ws. legalności ww fotografii.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 18:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 20:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

File:Oliph Webb (2).jpg

Hi Jarekt - Happy new year (belatedly)! Sorry I thought the above image was of Oliph Webb (a respectable actress), but it's Louise Webb. I've corrected the description and category, but please could you kindly correct the filename? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 21:33, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 22:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Getting TestCommons's Lua scripts set up correctly

Hey there,

As you may know, Structured Data is coming to Commons very soon. As part of preparations, I created TestCommons, and copied across a lot of the core templates and modules that Commons uses using the MediaWiki trans-wiki import tools.

However, the big ones are not working yet, which makes https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Godward_Idleness_1900-dupe!.jpg and https://test-commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Guillom and all the rest pretty ugly. :-( I've tried debugging the Lua but it's not my standard environment, and I might be missing a key piece such as environment variables being set by default-on gadgets or some other edge case.

Would you be interested in working out where I've gone wrong? :-) Only if you're available, of course.

Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 22:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Jdforrester (WMF) Sure, I will do what I can. Can you make me an admin so I can import pages and edit MediaWiki. Also for starters we will need to set up MediaWiki:Lang on that wiki, as most modules and templates rely on it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Aha, Lang. It didn't get exported. Fun. (You're now a +sysop there.) Jdforrester (WMF) (talk) 15:15, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

LicenseReview template

Hi Jarekt,
Please be aware of your bot's incorrect edits like this. Sealle (talk) 06:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I am no longer running that bot job. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 13:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [5][6]
• You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
• Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [7][8]
• Templates with could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [9]

Problems

• When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [10]

Changes later this week

• You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
• Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [11]
• The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15 17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible bug in Module:Coordinates

Hello. I have posted a bug report at phabricator about problems with searching images by coordinates https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213887. I received reply that it can be caused by you edit to Module:Coordinates. Could you please check if it is really so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wladich (talk • contribs) 16:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

I will look into this. --Jarekt (talk) 21:23, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

I reverted some of my latter changes. --Jarekt (talk) 03:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, hope this will fix the issue. Forgot to mention: one of the symptoms of the problem is that size of dumps of geo_tags is reducing:

* commonswiki-20181120-geo_tags.sql.gz 190.8 MB
* commonswiki-20181201-geo_tags.sql.gz 191.3 MB
* commonswiki-20181220-geo_tags.sql.gz 179.0 MB
* commonswiki-20190101-geo_tags.sql.gz 164.0 MB 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wladich (talk • contribs) 07:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News

• Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [12]

Recent changes

• The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
• https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

• When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [13]
• MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [14][15]
• Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [16]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [17]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:35, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 and stop using HHVM. You can test PHP7 with a new beta feature. That way you can help find and report problems.

Problems

• When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [18]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Removing votes from new user

Hi Jarekt,

I received a notification because you removed my votes for the January 2019 photo challenges. I do not understand why: did I do something wrong? Do I have to have previously uploaded photos in order to vote? I am simply new to Commons and voting seemed an easy way to get involved to me.

I am sorry if I asked my question in the wrong place, I do not have a clear picture of all the tools of Commons yet (and where else I could ask you that), please forgive me if I did it wrong.

Lisa Nicvert (talk) 08:30, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Lisa, you did not do anything wrong and if you have an issue with someone's edit than it is the best to ask them. The reason for me removing all the votes from new users prior to further processing is that those are the rules of the content. Each voting page starts with "Voting is open to all registered contributors who have held accounts for at least 10 days and made 50 edits, and also to new Commons contributors who have entered the challenge with a picture. " sentence. However it seems that many new users do not notice it. The code we use for processing the voting pages checks number of contributions of all the users and highlights the problematic ones together with many other potential issues. The reason for this rule is to make it harder for photographers to create several new accounts and vote for their own photographs, but even with this constraint it happen twice (that we know of). Unfortunately this rule also affects well meaning real new users. Sorry about this and once you have 50 edits please come back to Photo Challenge. --Jarekt (talk) 03:26, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

• It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [19]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY in Template:Category redirect

Hi, Jarekt. I was looking at Special:UnusedCategories and noticed that there are still redirected categories in there. I see that you tried adding EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY (with the underscores on each side) a couple of times. Could it be that it needs to start in column 1? --Auntof6 (talk) 07:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

I do not really know. I reshuffled Template:Category redirect a bit. May be that will help. Looking at it in Special:ExpandTemplates EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY is in a separate line now, starting in column 1. --Jarekt (talk) 13:29, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try to remember to check after Special:UnusedCategories is updated again. --Auntof6 (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, that didn't seem to work, either. Maybe it's just not working here. I know that it's working on at least one Wikipedia. --Auntof6 (talk) 01:49, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Auntof6, see Phabricator:T215583 --Jarekt (talk) 02:42, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T215583

Thanks. I'll watch that one. --Auntof6 (talk) 06:46, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Harvest title from artwork template for label on Wikidata

I used File:Vincenzo Catena 008.jpg to do these edits. Works very well. Maybe you can harvest the title field too? If it's in the form of {{<valid language code>|<some text without wiki garbage>}} and the language code doesn't have a label, import it. Multichill (talk) 11:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking about it, but it is tricky since there are several different ways people format title: {{Title}}, {{LangSwitch}} and {{En}}, etc. are used and Module:Creator only has access to parsed wikitext, but I will look into it, as there are many artworks without title. --Jarekt (talk) 11:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a bit tricky. I would start with this narrow case and slowly expand. I assume you mean Module:Artwork instead of module:creator? Multichill (talk) 17:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes Module:Artwork. --Jarekt (talk) 18:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can use the ambox CSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you use ambox there are classes you can use.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 February. It will be on all wikis from 14 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Côte d'Ivoire / Ivory Coast

I see you moved Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Côte d'Ivoire to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ivory Coast. Are you planning to update all the associated shortcuts, categories, templates etc.? Aymatth2 (talk) 13:37, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Aymatth2, I just noticed that page is using local name instead of English name, the rest of pages in Category:Commons licensing help by country do. I am looking at improving wikidata representation of associated items and that one was an anomaly. I was not planning on checking or correcting other pages as at the moment I am only working on items for copyright laws by country items. Gallery pages are traditionally stored in local language, but categories should be changed eventually. --Jarekt (talk) 13:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Côte d'Ivoire is an anomaly. I wondered about it when starting Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Côte d'Ivoire. At present, Wikimedia mostly uses the form "Côte d'Ivoire". English books etc. use "Côte d'Ivoire" quite widely, but use "Ivory Coast" more often. According to Commons:Language policy, Category:Côte d'Ivoire and all the sub-categories should therefore be moved to English equivalents. That seems like a large and perhaps controversial job. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Aymatth2, Great job by the way with pages in Category:Commons licensing help by country. It is great improvement over earlier single page coverage. I am working currently on representing information about copyrights on Wikidata, currently mostly applied to original items on wikidata (books, paintings, famous photographs, etc. ), but I assume that it will be transplanted in the future to Commons as part of Structured data on Commons. Maybe you would be interested in helping with development or review of current efforts to make sure they are well explained and make sense. The ongoing work happens on d:Help:Copyrights and d:Wikidata:Hirtle chart. I was also looking into items like copyright law of France (Q3039634) with sitelink to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/France. I think all pages in Category:Commons licensing help by country should have items on Wikidata, and perhaps we could store some of the content of the infobox on Commons:Copyright rules by territory/France in that item. It would be great to have more people familiar with international copyrights help with that project, or just keep an eye on it and participate in discussions. --Jarekt (talk) 14:55, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

That seems like a really useful project. Copyright law is structured by its nature, although there always has to be room for exceptions. It should also cover things like employee works, collective works, related rights, droit de suite, publication rights, personality rights, etc. that are not handled well by the current infobox. I will try to get involved. Aymatth2 (talk) 15:26, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Translation requests

Can you process translations requests on Februaty 10th, please?--Ma▀▄Ga 17:05, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 18:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Great. If you can, please, translate thumbnail size (marked with red elypse) to Veličina sličice (I couldn't find where to translate it), and check what's wrong with date here. It is displayed in English instead of Croatian (marked with two red elypses).--Ma▀▄Ga 12:41, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Daria Nyzankiwska-Snihurowycz.jpg

Hello Jarekt, When you have a moment, could you take a look at this photo? It is almost 90 years old, and its copyright has expired in most countries and it would be in the public domain. You have helped me before with photos. Could you put the proper tags on it? Thank you. Nicola Mitchell (talk) 12:58, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

I've made some changes to it on the advice of another editor. It should be okay now. If you get a chance could you still take a look to make sure its in order? Thank you.Nicola Mitchell (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

I did some improvements and it seems to be OK now. --Jarekt (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [20]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [21]

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk to us about talking

The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:

1. First, sign up your group here.
2. Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group. This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
3. Then ask people what they think about communication processes. We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki. Please consider asking these five questions:
   1. When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
   2. What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
   3. What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
   4. What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
   5. What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
4. Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group. Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you.

Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions. [22]

Changes later this week

• When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [23]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 February. It will be on all wikis from 28 February (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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21:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:GUINNESS CERTIFICATE.jpg

This file may be deleted.

A file that you have uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, File:GUINNESS CERTIFICATE.jpg, is a derivative work, containing an "image within an image". Examples of such works would include a photograph of a sculpture, a scan of a magazine cover, or a map that has been altered from the original. In each of these cases, the rights of the creator of the original must be considered, as well as those of the creator of the derivative work. While the description page states who made this derivative work, it currently doesn't specify who created the original work, so the overall copyright status is unclear. If you did not create the original work depicted in this image, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. Please edit the file description and add the missing information, or the file may be deleted. If you created the original content yourself, enter this information as the source. If someone else created the content, the source should be the address to the web page where you found it, the name and ISBN of the book you scanned it from, or similar. You should also name the author, provide verifiable information to show that the content is in the public domain or has been published under a free license by its author, and add an appropriate template identifying the public domain or licensing status, if you have not already done so. Please add the required information for this and other files you have uploaded before adding more files. If you need assistance, please ask at the help desk. Thank you!

 

Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 03:21, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Ronhjones, you got the wrong author. File was created by User:Rajasekharan Parameswaran. Cheers. --Jarekt (talk) 03:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Can you unbreak Category:Artworks with known accession number?

Hi Jarekt, I wondered why most of User:Multichill/Same image without Wikidata and d:Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Image suggestions stopped working since May last year. Turns out it got broken in the big LUA {{Artwork}} conversion. Looks like Category:Artworks with known accession number only gets set when a file is linked with Wikidata and the Wikidata item has an inventory number. Could you please fix it to also include files that haven't been linked to Wikidata yet, but do have the "accession number" field set in the artwork template? The last working version seems to be [24]. The sortkey should be prefixed with a space (you're already doing that now), should be stripped of html junk if possible and truncated at 15 characters. Thanks, Multichill (talk) 18:21, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I will look into it. --Jarekt (talk) 02:39, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciated. Bot runs every night so should be easy to spot if you fixed it or not :-) Multichill (talk) 22:02, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Multichill, Is this working now? By the way, I am transferring a lot of image titles and labels to Wikidata based on {{Title}} and templates like {{En}}, {{De}}, etc. --Jarekt (talk) 04:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Sure looks like it. Pages like User:Multichill/Same image without Wikidata/Commons creator, institution and inventory number match. User:Multichill/Same image without Wikidata/Wikidata creator, institution and inventory number match and d:Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Image suggestions/Creator, institution and inventory number match are filling up again. Plenty of items to illustrate and images to link to existing items. Multichill (talk) 10:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Can you bump the length a bit? Images like File:James Ward - Portrait of Reformer, Blucher, Tory and Crib, the Property of Rowland Alston, Esq., M.P. - Google Art Project.jpg & File:James Ward - Sea Breaking on Stony Cliffs at Left - Google Art Project.jpg now show up as false positives. Thanks, Multichill (talk) 11:54, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

I doubled the length of the allowed ID to 30 characters. I am also stripping all the links beforehand, in case there are any. --Jarekt (talk) 14:26, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I checked some of the files we got complaints about in the past when we first implemented this and all of them look good. Multichill (talk) 18:55, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Błąd w Module:I18n/complex date

Jest jakiś błąd w w/w module dla parametrów century oraz millennium, ale tylko dla języka polskiego: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Other_date?uselang=pl. Dla angielskiego, niemieckiego i francuskiego (te sprawdziłem) jest OK. --jdx ^Re: 21:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Zreperowałem Udało mi się znaleźć problem za pomocą [25]. Dziękuje za poinformowanie o tym błędzie. Wczoraj dodałem Module:No globals do Module:LangSwitch co powoduje ze wiele ukrytych błędów (albo potencjalnych błędów), ujawnia się. Wiec od wczoraj jak się coś nowego pojawi w Category:Pages with script errors to reperuje. --Jarekt (talk) 02:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

A tak przy okazji, to właśnie zauważyłem błędne tłumaczenie na polski dla parametrów 1quarter, itd. – po naszemu „ćwiartka roku” to po prostu „kwartał”. Aczkolwiek odnosi się to do pełnych lat, tj. wywołań tego typu: {{other date|1quarter|1815}}. Nigdy nie słyszałem, aby mówiło się o ćwiartkach/kwartałach w przypadku miesięcy, tj. {{other date|1quarter|1815-09}}. W tym przypadku w języku polskim mówi się raczej o pierwszym/drugim/trzecim/czwartym tygodniu danego miesiąca. --jdx ^Re: 06:19, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Jdx, Dziękuje za sprawdzenie, od jakiś 25 lat nie używam na codzien języka polskiego, wiec czasami przegapiam najlepszy sposób na przetłumaczenie czegoś. Wiec w przypadku lat powinniśmy mówić o kwartałach. W przypadku miesięcy, pewnie rzadko będzie mowa o kwartałach czy ćwiartkach, bardziej naturalnym będzie początek, środek i koniec miesiąca. "Tygodnie" tez brzmią dziwnie bo to zależny od tego jak się tygodnie pokrywają z miesiącami. A co myślisz na temat stuleci czy wieków: {{Complex date|adj=1quarter|date=19|units=century|lang=pl}} -> "pierwszy kwartał XIX wieku" czy "pierwsza ćwiartka XIX wieku"? --Jarekt (talk) 03:43, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

W tym przypadku mówimy o pierwszym/drugim/trzecim/ostatnim ćwierćwieczu danego wieku, np. [26], [27], [28]. Co do ćwiartek/tygodni miesiąca, to u nas jednak mówi się o tygodniach, np.: [29] czy [30]. Owszem, nie jest to zbyt precyzyjne, ale jeśli powiesz komuś, że proponujesz spotkanie w trzecim tygodniu marca, to ów ktoś będzie się raczej spodziewał terminu gdzieś pomiędzy 15 a 21 marca. Zresztą ćwiartki, abstrahując od tego, że wg Google nikt tak nie mówi, też nie są zbyt dobre biorąc pod uwagę to, że zdecydowana większość miesięcy, a nawet czasami luty, ma liczbę dni niepodzielną przez 4. --jdx ^Re: 06:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

User:Jdx, Trochę poprawiłem (zobacz Template:Complex_date/examples, ale także odkryłem inny problem: {{complex date|4quarter|18|lang=pl|units=century}} daje "ostatnie ćwierćwiecze XVIII wiek

date QS:P,+1750-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P4241,Q40719674

", a powinno być "wieku" a nie "wiek". Spróbuje zreperować. --Jarekt (talk) 19:48, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You can give feedback on the future of talk pages.
• The mobile website will use the standard fonts on your computer or phone instead of a generic font. This will make it easier to read text in many scripts. [31][32]

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16:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

BCE

d:Q28810348 has a bit weird data imported from Commons. Looks like it went wrong in this edit. Can you have a look? Multichill (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes my bad. I had regex looking for strings like "|pretty_display_date = 14th century" and if found than adding {{Other date}}, I tested it an few dozen pages but I guess I did not realized that we might have "14th century BCE". --Jarekt (talk) 02:09, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-11

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Recent changes

• Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the mw.wikibase.entity:formatStatements Lua function or the #statements parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using a Kartographer <maplink> if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
• There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

Problems

• Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
• Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed. [33]
• Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed. [34][35]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings

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19:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Forgotten?

I don't want to be boring, maybe you have forgot this.--Ma▀▄Ga 10:01, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

yes I did forget. I found MediaWiki:Com-poty-thumbsize, but it already has correct MediaWiki:Com-poty-thumbsize/hr. There is also MediaWiki:Thumbsize translated at translatewiki and it also has HR version. Where do you see this "Thumbnail size"? --Jarekt (talk) 13:58, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

See this. I hope that rest of the interface in Croatian won't be a problem.--Ma▀▄Ga 14:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Commons:Picture_of_the_Year in Croatian (see here [36]) seems to have correctly translated thumbnail size. --Jarekt (talk) 02:00, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for that. The second part of forgotten thing is: can you fix date format here? It is displayed in English instead of Croatian (see problem marked with two red elypses).--Ma▀▄Ga 18:12, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

User:MaGa, According to Help:Extension:ParserFunctions that page should be showing dated in Croatian, but I guess it is not working right. I did some changes. Can you check if it helped? --Jarekt (talk) 02:51, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Perfect, it's OK now. Last thing: can you add translation in Croatian of template to it's language list? I would do it, but, it's protected from editing for all but admins.--Ma▀▄Ga 16:31, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - development update, March 2019

This text is also posted on the Structured Data hub talk page. You can reply there with questions, comments, or concerns.

A development update for the current work by the Structured Data on Commons team:

After the release of multilingual file captions, work began on getting depicts and other statements ready for release. These were originally scheduled for release in February and into March, however there are currently two major blockers to finishing this work (T215642, T217157). We will know more next week about when depicts and statements can likely be ready for testing and then release; until then I've tentatively updated the release schedule.

Once the depicts feature is ready for testing, it will take place in two stages on TestCommons. The first is checking the very basics; is the design comfortable, how does the simple workflow of adding/editing/removing statements work, and building up help and process pages from there. The second part is a more detailed test of depicts and other statements, checking the edge-case examples of using the features, bugs that did not come up during simple testing, etc. Additionally we'll be looking with the community for bugs in interaction with bots, gadgets, and other scripts once the features are live on Commons. Please let me know if you're interesting in helping test and fix these bugs if they show up upon release, it is really hard to find them in a test environment or, in some cases, bugs won't show up in a testing environment at all.

One new thing is definitely coming within the next few weeks, pending testing: the ability to search for captions. This is done using the inlabel keyword in search strings, and will be the first step in helping users find content that is specifically structured data. I'll post a notice when that feature is live and ready for use.

Thanks, let me know if you have questions about these plans. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:34, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Nazi poster

Hi Jarek, can you see any hope in this deletion request? Many thanks for your support. Boston9 (talk) 19:46, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-12

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Changes later this week

• When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March. [37][38]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Admins will be able to block someone from editing a page or a namespace. This already works on a few Wikimedia wikis. You can read more. If your wiki wants to be an early tester of this, you can tell the developers. [39]
• Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

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19:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:Art photo

Hi Jarekt, this edit seems to have included the template documentation a second time. See Template_talk:Art_Photo#Documentation_included_twice. Can you fix? Thanks in advance, MartinPoulter (talk) 12:11, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 12:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Great request

Hi Jarek, as usual I have a great request to make. Beginning of March I took this photo of Beata Chomątowska during a conference in bad light, from distance. Later we established contact and decided that this pic is no good, and much better is needed for Wikipedia. So we met today and this is the result 1 and 2. Could you please now delate the first photo? I agree, it gives me a really bad name as a photographer. Many thanks for your support here! Boston9 (talk) 20:43, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Boston9, I think the original photo is fine, you sometimes have to work with conditions you encounter and if there is not enough light you do what you need to do to get a photo. I would argue for keeping it as the lady looks quite different in those 2 photos and might be helpful in identifying her in other photographs. In general we do not delete once uploaded images unless there is some issue with it. If you (or Ms. Chomątowska) feel strongly about it I will use justification #7 of Commons:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion, but if it was mine photo I would just keep it. --Jarekt (talk) 00:25, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Jarek, yes, unfortunately the second reason is that she does feel strongly about that pic. She does not like it, to put it mildly, so it was she who arranged the meeting to take another one. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 06:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 20:09, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Boston9 (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - early depicts testing

The Structured Data on Commons development team has the very basic version of depicts statements available for early testing on Test-Commons. You can add very basic depicts statements to the file page by going into the new “Structured Data” tab located below the "Open in Media Viewer button." You can use the Latest Files link in the left side nav bar to select existing images, or use the UploadWizard to upload new ones to test with (although those images won’t actually show up on the site). The test site is not a fully functional replica of Commons, so there may be some overall problems in using the site, but you should be able to get a general idea of what using the feature is like.

Early next week I will call for broad, community-wide testing of the feature similar to what we did for Captions, with instructions for testing, known bugs, and a dedicated space to discuss the feature as well as a simple help page for using statements. Until then, you're welcome to post on the SDC talk page with what you might find while testing depicts.

Thanks in advance for trying it out, you'll be hearing more from me next week. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:59, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Rollback permission

Hi Jarekt - I hope all is going well for you. Please could you kindly give me rollback permission? I've been on WP for abut 14 years now, and contributed thousands of images to Commons. I don't usually get intentional vandalism on my image pages (probably too dull for vandals!) but I have had trouble recently with well-intentioned but careless editors who make a lot of changes - some useful, some not - and sometimes they inadvertently remove the image licence or the architect/artist's name, or they add an inappropriate category - or all of these. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 11:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

 Done Good luck with rollback tools. I find them very useful, especially in cleanup of the messes I occasionally create. Other useful took is AutoWikiBrouwser, where you can set up a lot of find and replace rules and run it on large number of files. --Jarekt (talk) 17:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 18:25, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13

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Recent changes

• The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version. [40]

Problems

• There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed. [41]
• The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon. [42]
• Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them. [43]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2019-14

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Changes later this week

• Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this. [44]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings

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16:28, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Genre and main subject

Hi Jarek, I have been adding genre and main subject (especially Christian religious art subjects) to paintings. Should we show this in {{Artwork}}? Quite a few of these subjects have a nice Wikipedia article to which we would link. What do you think? Multichill (talk) 21:11, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

I am fine with that. Although I have never heard of "main subject" and looking at this query I do not understand some values. See Moça no trigal (Q61986955) with main subject (P921) set to France (Q142) (why not harvest (Q213753)), or Self-Portrait with Pipe (Q19835862) with main subject (P921) set to man (Q8441) (Why not Vincent van Gogh (Q5582)), or Instrução (Solidariedade Humana) - Painel da Biblioteca Nacional (Q62063577) with main subject (P921) set to panel (Q1348059). --Jarekt (talk) 03:00, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

The main subject is the subject the artist is trying to depict. So for religious art it's often biblical themes and for portraits it's usually the sitter.

It's still a bit polluted when it comes to paintings. Often statements should be moved to depicts. These are examples that need attention. I clean some of them up every once in a while. Probably best to wait with enabling it until the obvious mistakes are fixed and the usage has increased a lot. Multichill (talk) 19:24, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

Multichill  Done --Jarekt (talk) 02:54, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Haha, so much for waiting. Looking good! Thanks, Multichill (talk) 08:44, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

two #1 in Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - February - Rotational symmetry/Voting

Sorry, but I do not find this votes. I suggest you fix it randomly.

(I find only :For 2 146. Museu de Arte Moderna - Rio de Janeiro DSCN0867

For 0

2. Sea urchin (Arbacia lixula) endoskeleton 19. Temple of Diana, monopteros (1789) in the Villa Borghese gardens, Rome. Interior of the dome 22. Table lamp from above 46. Different Perspective up 53. Baustelle-Hölzla-Rebar-4141399 56. Green Spiral 60. Temple church ceiling helsinki 63. 001 2015 05 23 Rotationssymmetrie 68. Erodium cicutarium feuilles en rosettes, près de la Deûle, Nord de la France (mi-février 2019) 03 76. Bahamani Tombs 03 (cropped) 94. Cappella Pellegrini nella Chiesa di San Bernardino a Verona 96. Lid of a hand-woven basket 120. Helix Staircase 127. Matricaria chamomilla flower 139. Oklahoma State Capitol dome, interior view with Great Seal of the State of Oklahoma (5-pointed star in circle) at center 143. Kirchenfenster auf Mallorca) Thank you Palamède (talk) 08:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Bot error?

Hi. Did your bot intend to remove all the information in this edit? I’ve restored it for now. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 16:46, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Green Giant, good catch. It is vert strange, since I started working with Category:Wikidata related maintenance my bot makes thousands "null" edits weekly (similar to mw:Manual:Pywikibot/touch.py). If they are done right than they do not show in any page history or contributions, but looking at Special:Contributions/JarektBot that is the only edit in a month or more. So at least I know it is one off mishap. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 01:27, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
• Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers. [45][46]

Problems

• You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis. [47]
• A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back. [48]
• Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed. [49]

Changes later this week

• When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site. [50]
• The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more. [51]
• The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return "" (empty string). When you read a page it will return "-" (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces. [52]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia. [53][54]
• The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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18:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata book item

Hi Jarekt, Do you know, is there a way to cite a Wikidata book item. I'm scanning a book and will enter it on Wikidata, if there's an easy way to cite it from Commons. I checked Template:Cite book, but I did not see a Wikidata parameter. Thanks in advance for help. --Robert.Allen (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I am slowly adding support for pulling data from wikidata to various templates, but so far I concentrated on templates I am familiar with, like infoboxes. I just converted {{Photograph}} to use extended {{Artwork}} and was thinking about moving on to {{Book}}. So I personally will probably not get to {{Cite}} for a while. I do not know of anybody else working on that issue. I would start discussion on Template talk:Cite book and maybe start a ticket on phabricator, just so people are aware that there is a need. Good Luck. --Jarekt (talk) 01:53, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Probably low demand for this feature. Thanks, I will use Cite book without it. --2607:FB90:1E63:9A47:A511:7AE3:480E:41AF 03:08, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-16

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Recent changes

• All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will get a new constraint status called suggestion. This will change how the WikibaseQualityConstraints constraint checking API works. [55][56]
• You can test the depicts property for structured data on Commons.

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22:59, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook. [57][58][59]
• The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version. [60]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikipedia articles will have the sameAs meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test. [61][62]

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19:07, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

picture

Dear Judy, I am coordinating the publication of a new textbook of zoology (in Italian) and I wonder whether it is possible to use your picture published in

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File%3AAnt-mimic_Jumping_Spider_-_Peckhamia_sp.%2C_SERC%2C_Edgewater%2C_Maryland.jpg

In the case, you will be credited for it. Thank you in advance for your attention.

Best regards Loriano

-- Loriano T. Ballarin, Associate Professor of Zoology Dipartimento di Biologia, Università di Padova Via U. Bassi 58/B, 35100 Padova - Italy Tel.: +39 049 827 6197 Fax: +39 049 827 6199 Email: loriano.ballarin@unipd.it Website: https://sites.google.com/site/ascidianbiologylab/our-staff/loriano-ballarin — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 147.162.3.230 (talk) 12:25, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Loriano, You did not reached the photographer Judy Gallagher, just a guy who copied her photograph from flickr to Wikipedia. Judy's license for this file allows you to use her image in a book without asking as long as you credit it properly. That said, I am sure she would like to know about it, so I would drop her a note at https://www.flickr.com/photos/52450054@N04/18562043001/. --Jarekt (talk) 12:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-18

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• The Wikipedia app for Android now invites users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. [63][64]

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• Tech News was late last week because of a MassMessage bug. Other newsletters had the same problem. [65]

Changes later this week

• You will see when you last refreshed the recent changes page. This is so you can see how recent the changes are. [66]
• When you write a comment in Structured Discussions but have not posted it yet your web browser will save it in local storage instead of session storage. This means you do not lose them even if you close your web browser. Structured Discussions used to be called Flow. [67]
• You will be able to turn off milestone notifications. Milestone notifications congratulate you when you have made certain numbers of edits. [68]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar).

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• The Wikidata wb_terms table will be dropped. This will affect some Wikidata tools. They need to be updated. The table has become too big which is causing problems. This will happen on 29 May. You can read more. You can ask for help if you need it.
• Wikimedia wikis will soon use a token when you log out. This changes how the API works. Some tools might need to be updated. [69]

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22:27, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

File:March for Our Lives Boston 2018 - 230.jpg

File:March for Our Lives Boston 2018 - 230.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

B dash (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

File:March for Our Lives Boston 2018 - 210.jpg

File:March for Our Lives Boston 2018 - 210.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

B dash (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Removal of photos

Hello Jarekt,

I have had a request from the person who owns these 3 images to please remove them from Wikipedia. "Please remove the two images (there are actually 3) of the Greek Cathedral in Winnipeg which are my images, published on Ipernity with all rights reserved." I would like to oblige this person's request.

The files are:

File:Greek Church in Winnipeg postcard 2.jpg, File:Greek Church Winnipeg 1906.jpg, File:Tin Can Cathedral with Hotel Dufferin.jpg

I have removed them from the Tin Can Cathedral Wikimedia Commons file. But there are other files that have been created since I put them into Wikipedia, that have used these images, and I am reluctant to go into files created by others and remove them. Can you help with this? Would it be possible to delete these three images with an explanation for other editors, that this was done out of courtesy in response to a request from the owner that they be removed? When you have a chance could you take a look? Nicola Mitchell (talk) 16:31, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Nicola Mitchell, Those photographs seem to be postcards published around 1906. Your correspondence is likely with a person that owns those 3 physical postcards, which are in Public domain in the US, but he does not own copyrights to those photographs. Scanning or taking photo of some old photograph does not give you copyrights in US. Please do not remove those files from any pages. --Jarekt (talk) 02:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Can "Wikimedia Commons" <wiki@wikimedia.org>, who passed along an e-mail from Wikimedia Commons email from user "Canafornian" whose e-mail address is: "Canafornian" <robmci@hotmail.com>, send this person a reply to that effect? So that I don't reveal my e-mail address to them? Nicola Mitchell (talk) 11:15, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Nicola Mitchell, If you forward the email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and let me know that you did than I reply from there. --Jarekt (talk) 11:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay I've just forwarded the e-mail to: permissions-commons@wikimedia.org Thank you for this!Nicola Mitchell (talk) 13:39, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Here is the ticket number: If you want to send more emails about the same subject, please add the following to the subject bar of the email: [Ticket#: 2019050610007027].

Tech News: 2019-19

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Problems

• Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. The developers are working on solving the problem. [70]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar).

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16:27, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Beginning and end Monthly Photo Challange

Hi Jarekt, I need your help. I am not able to find my image in the voting page of Beginning and end Monthly Photo Challange. Is there any process to put my images there too. Thanks, Bijay chaurasia (talk) 18:06, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Bijay chaurasia, the software used for processing rejects all the images uploded outside the time of competition. See source code of Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - April - Beginning and end/Voting and "REMOVED: Meeting point of Sunkoshi and Tama Koshi River from Beni Ghat-IMG0620-Pano.jpg by Bijay chaurasia was uploaded 04 January 2019 before the challenge opened (01 April 2019)". There is a lot of images rejected that way each month and the software is not designed to alert users beyond that cryptic message. Perhaps that is something that could be improved. --Jarekt (talk) 03:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-20

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar).

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00:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Hackathon

Are you there yet? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 18:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Zhuyifei1999 I am stuck in Philadelphia. My flight got canceled and the new connection delays my by 24 hours. I will arrive around noon tomorow. --Jarekt (talk) 19:38, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Ok. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:41, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Creator

Bonjour, je ne sais pas si c'est votre dernière modification qui en est la cause, mais le modèle Creator dysfonctionne. Voir. Cordialement.Finoskov (talk) 13:10, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

• • Hello, thanks, everything is now ok ; cordially. Finoskov (talk) 20:54, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-21

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• The report for phase 1 of the talk pages consultation 2019 has been published. Communities are invited to start phase 2 of the consultation on their wikis.

Problems

• File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed. [71][72]
• Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments. [73][74]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar).

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• The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team. [75]
• The Wikidata wbeditentity API endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June. [76]

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13:03, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Module:Artwork

Can you please correct your edits? No longer does the header atop {{Artwork}} read Author: Title following the icon(s) with respect to |wikidata=. Please view/purge this file for example. Thanks. AlbanGeller (talk) 14:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Yes, we have an issue here. Please see Commons:Village pump/Technical#Author and Title not shown with Artwork template. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:19, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Book

Hi. It seems a recent edit has caused about 900 files to no longer display their license tags (Category:First Folio scans (SCETI)). Is there a solution for this? Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 18:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

I think it should be fixed now by renaming "License" to "Permission" in the template. "License" alias was occasionally used in book template. I think I replaced them all but it seems like I missed some. --Jarekt (talk) 18:47, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Thsnk you! I think you’ve fixed the vast majority of them. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 23:02, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Somehow thousands of files with Template:Book entered Category:Images without source after your recent edits. Can you fix this? Jcb (talk) 20:15, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Jcb I look at them and they do not have any source. Looking at {{Book}} template it looks like need for "Source" field was never enforced. I can turn it off again. Do you think we still need for {{Artwork}} and {{Photograph}}? --Jarekt (talk) 00:39, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

I think a book does not need a separate source field in most cases, because the source is logically the book itself. Artwork and Photograph will not always be needed, but if there is e.g. a picture of a book as 3D object, the information on the photograph will be needed. Jcb (talk) 12:13, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

But the scan has a source. Often the source is the Internet Archive or Google Books, and the source of the scan should be identified. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:27, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

So book is the one infobox where if you have a source than it will be displayed, but lack of source will not place it in special category. It has always been like that. I personally do not like Category:Images without source category being added to Public Domain artworks, because for such files the source is irrelevant to the copyright status. But that might be just me.--Jarekt (talk) 01:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I completely agree. If {book} has no separate source field content, it should not be in the problem category. Especially not, because this frustrates the handling of that problem category. Jcb (talk) 19:01, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Art Photo or template:Title

Hello. Excuse me to solicit you again but there is a recent malfunction here, on the title of the object. Sincerely and thank you in advance.Finoskov (talk) 13:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Finoskov I fixed the issue in your file by attaching it to wikidata item. I will also fix my code to prevent it in the future. Thanks for reporting --Jarekt (talk) 02:58, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello again , and when there is no Wikidata item : like here . Sincerely and thank you again.Finoskov (talk) 21:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Module:Artwork/sandbox handles it correct now. I will test a few more fixes and deploy. --Jarekt (talk) 23:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much. All is O.K. Finoskov (talk) 11:55, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-22

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Changes later this week

• Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user. [77][78]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 May. It will be on all wikis from 30 May (calendar).

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15:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Template:Book

Hello, I saw that edit [79]

But, where has the big wikisource button gone ? I cannot find it anymore :( --Hsarrazin (talk) 07:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

It is intended to be in the top bar next to wikidata icon and edit icon, the way it is on all the other templates like {{Artwork}} or {{Creator}}. Is it missing in some cases? --Jarekt (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jarekt! I saw (and heard) that you have been working on this at the Prague hackathon. Great job. And very timely, as my colleague Satdeep and I are working on a Structured Data on Commons pilot around books for Wikisource, where we hope to be able to re-use data from Wikidata as much as possible across Wikidata, Commons and Wikisource, and we were indeed hoping for a Wikidata-driven book template here!

I do notice that for some items the Wikisource link indeed does not show up, although the sitelink is present in the Wikidata item. An example is this file for The Æneid of Virgil (Q19031184).

As Wikisource can be referred to in two ways in a Wikidata item:

1. Wikisource index page URL (P1957) pointing to the index page where one can help to transcribe the text,
2. and the Wikisource sitelink pointing to the marked-up version where one can read and download the formatted text,

I am also wondering if it wouldn't be nice to have a more prominent Wikisource connection than just the tiny icon - maybe a link or small banner with larger Wikisource logo; saying something like 'Read the full, transcribed text on Wikisource here and help to transcribe the text here'. Curious what you think. Satdeep, do you have any additional thoughts? Cheers! SandraF (WMF) (talk) 12:41, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Sandra, Thanks for letting me know about Wikisource index page URL (P1957) property. I have never run into it and I will definitely add it. Old Book template had more prominent wikisource icon; however I was trying to place the icon in the same spot all the other templates that allow it place it, like {{Creator}} or {{Artwork}}. Templates {{Artwork}}, {{Photograph}}, {{Book}} and {{Art photo}} all use the same lua code and I am trying to keep the differences between the templates to minimum. One issue with {{Book}} templates is that very few of them are connected to wikidata. I wrote about it in some wikisource related forums, like here or here. Without those links there will not be much of reuse of wikidata metadata in Commons {{Book}} templates or copying of metadata from commons to Wikidata, the way it is happening with Artworks and was happening with Creator templates. --Jarekt (talk) 02:01, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

indeed, there is a small problem : this "big button" was used by those who uplaod books to create the Index Page, retrieving info at the same time (on frws at least). Now that it is not "obvious", many contributors do not know how to simply create the Index page, which is the base of wikisource correction. Like SandraF (WMF), something more prominent, linking to the index page would be nice :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 09:03, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:Book (again)

Your change to the code wiped out all the links to Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:50, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

EncycloPetey, you said it before and I do not understand what you mean, lets look at File:Bloy - Belluaires et porchers, 1905.djvu: in the code among other fields you have

{{Book|Wikisource=:s:fr:Livre:Bloy - Belluaires et porchers, 1905.djvu|Wikidata=Q19135102}}: which would give

Léon Bloy: Q19135102
Author	Léon Bloy  (1846–1917)       Alternative names Birth name: Léon Henri Marie Bloy; Léo Bloy; Le Mendiant ingrat; Mendiant ingrat; Le Pèlerin de l'absolu; Pèlerin de l'absolu Description French writer, essayist, diarist and poet Date of birth/death 11 July 1846  3 November 1917  Location of birth/death Périgueux Bourg-la-Reine Authority file : Q462666 VIAF: 4926903 ISNI: 0000000121184433 LCCN: n50009572 NLA: 35019600 Open Library: OL133457A GND: 118511866 SELIBR: 208792 SUDOC: 026733692 BNF: 118924395 NDL: 00433589 BIBSYS: 90066401 NKC: jn19990000856 SBN: CFIV019378 BNE: XX857046 CiNii: DA01166472 J9U: 987007258874605171 Koninklijke: 06892206X NLK: KAC201304375 WorldCat creator QS:P170,Q462666
Title	French: Belluaires et porchers  title QS:P1476,fr:"Belluaires et porchers " label QS:Lfr,"Belluaires et porchers "
Edition	1
Publisher	Stock
Object type	version, edition or translation
Language	French
Publication date	1905
Place of publication	Paris

. In the top row next to wikidata icon there is wikisource icon, done exactly the same way we do it in Creator templates. --Jarekt (talk) 02:33, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, the link is invisible. There used to be a larger icon in the template window proper. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

We can add it again. For me I found it more convenient to always have the link in the same palace in all the templates, but perhaps we could have 2 links. BTW, SandraF had similar request at User_talk:Jarekt#Template:Book. --Jarekt (talk) 02:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

The sandbox allows now two wikisource icons:

Léon Bloy: Q19135102
Author	Léon Bloy  (1846–1917)       Alternative names Birth name: Léon Henri Marie Bloy; Léo Bloy; Le Mendiant ingrat; Mendiant ingrat; Le Pèlerin de l'absolu; Pèlerin de l'absolu Description French writer, essayist, diarist and poet Date of birth/death 11 July 1846  3 November 1917  Location of birth/death Périgueux Bourg-la-Reine Authority file : Q462666 VIAF: 4926903 ISNI: 0000000121184433 LCCN: n50009572 NLA: 35019600 Open Library: OL133457A GND: 118511866 SELIBR: 208792 SUDOC: 026733692 BNF: 118924395 NDL: 00433589 BIBSYS: 90066401 NKC: jn19990000856 SBN: CFIV019378 BNE: XX857046 CiNii: DA01166472 J9U: 987007258874605171 Koninklijke: 06892206X NLK: KAC201304375 WorldCat creator QS:P170,Q462666	Start this Book
Title	French: Belluaires et porchers  title QS:P1476,fr:"Belluaires et porchers " label QS:Lfr,"Belluaires et porchers "
Edition	1
Publisher	Stock
Object type	version, edition or translation
Language	French
Publication date	1905
Place of publication	Paris

.

Is that better? or we can place it below the image. --Jarekt (talk) 04:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

That would be much better, thank you - I suggest that the tiny button, in the top row, would link to wikisource link in wikidata, when existing, in this case s:fr:Belluaires et porchers :) --Hsarrazin (talk) 09:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Łukasz Jakóbiak - zgoda na zdjęcie

Witam!

Zdobyłam zgodę na kolejne zdjęcie Łukasza Jakóbiaka i wysłałam na permissions-pl@wikimedia.org. Łukasz wysłał zgodę na swoje selfie zdjęcie też na maila. Ja dzisiaj też napisałam na tego maila. Czy mógłby Pan to sprawdzić. Ostatnio załatwił mi Pan to samo, ale autorem był Pan Szafran. Trochę zależy mi na czasie. Z pozdrowieniami, Milagros aal (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Milagros aal, Mowa chyba o ticket:2019053010005242 wygląda na to ze User:Polimerek już się zajmuje tą korespondencją. --Jarekt (talk) 02:08, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Wysłaliśmy wszystkie zgody. Łukasz Jakóbiak zrobił sobie selfie i wysłał wam zgodę, a ten administrator mówi, że to nie on jest autorem swojego selfie, a kto? Wysłałam zgodę taką samą Łukaszowi, co ostatnio p. Szafranowi, a pan uznał. Łukasz zrobił sobie sam zdjęcie i wysłał wam ze swojego maila zgodę, którą ja mu pomogłam wypełnić. Zrobił sobie sam foto i wysłał zgodę. Przecież to selfie to kto ma wypełnić zgodę? Tylko Łukasz. Sorry, nie rozumiem. Wszystko jest legalnie i jeszcze źle! Milagros aal (talk) 10:21, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Generating a list from Wikidata entry

Hi, Since you seems to understand coding with Wikidata, I would like your opinion about generating this table (and the same in French) with a query. This is already hard to maintain, and there is now only a small part of the 1300 works of art by this artist. Something similar to this but with less columns, and customized for each different language. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yann, d:Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Top 100 painters/Paul Cézanne/Paintings is done using Listeria tool see d:Q19860885 for instructions. Listeria generated tables are not good for main namespace as they do not format data right, like sizes are just 2 numbers without units, only simple dates are displayed properly, etc. We can use lua templates to create and format each row. I know how to do it on Commons where I have all my codes up to date, but moving that to other projects might be tricky. If you want I can create such list on Commons and you can try to see how to transplant it. --Jarekt (talk) 13:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, please. Anyway, I would divide his works in 4 periods to make the page more readable. And the list should only be updated manually. Regards, Yann (talk) 14:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yann, See User:Yann/List_of_paintings_by_Paul_Cézanne as a first pass. [[Template:Painting_table_row}} takes either wikidata items or local values. List was generated and sorted based on

SELECT ?item  WHERE {
  ?item  wdt:P31 wd:Q3305213.
  ?item  wdt:P170 wd:Q35548.
  ?item  wdt:P571 ?date.
}
order by ?date

Try it!

and then processed in excel using "=CONCATENATE("{{Painting table row|",A2,"}}")" function. The list is too long for display so a better way might be for the query to return more metadata per painting and call wikidata functions only for more complex cases. It will also help with clean up of metadata missing on Wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks.

I have also managed to get something useful (fr:Utilisateur:Yann/Liste de peintures de Paul Cézanne), but there is quite a lot of work to do, both on the content, and on the formatting.

Your list breaks because "Lua error: too many expensive function calls." and then "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." Regards, Yann (talk) 17:25, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Yann, I regenerated User:Yann/List_of_paintings_by_Paul_Cézanne based on

SELECT ?item  ?date1 ?date2 ?height ?heightU ?width ?widthU ?collection WHERE {
  ?item  wdt:P31 wd:Q3305213.
  ?item  wdt:P170 wd:Q35548.
  ?item  wdt:P195 ?collection .
  optional {?item  wdt:P571 ?date1. }
  optional {?item p:P571 ?dobstatement .
  ?dobstatement psv:P571 [
                wikibase:timePrecision "9"^^xsd:integer ;
                wikibase:timeValue ?date2 ;
              ] }
                
  optional {?item p:P2048/psv:P2048 ?heightD.
            ?heightD wikibase:quantityAmount ?height.
            ?heightD wikibase:quantityUnit   ?heightU.}
  optional {?item p:P2049/psv:P2049 ?widthD.
            ?widthD  wikibase:quantityAmount ?width.
            ?widthD  wikibase:quantityUnit   ?widthU.}

}
order by ?date1

Try it!

which I concatenated using =CONCATENATE("{{Painting table row|",B424,"|date=",D424,"|size=",E424," × ",G424," cm|institution=",I424,"}}"). That should show more of the list, but not all. --Jarekt (talk) 04:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, better. Only some images at the bottom do not load: "Failed to render property P18: To many entities loaded, must not load more than 400 entities." It seems there are too many items anyway (around 450 in Wikidata among the 1300 total). I have to think how to split this. Thanks, Yann (talk) 04:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Yann,The original version had issues with time-out, so it was just pulling too much from Wikidata, the second version pools much less but there is some limit of only 400 wikidata entities per page. One thing this might be useful is for finding wikidata item that need some fixes. --Jarekt (talk) 02:27, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I am doing now. I am still wondering how to split the table, i.e. by period, or arbitrary year. There are some paintings which might be classified in 2 periods, so either of this is arbitrary anyway. What do you think? Regards, Yann (talk) 05:29, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I would do it based on Main_periods_of_Cézanne's_work. --Jarekt (talk) 11:56, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I did manually in the French article. But how to create 4 lists automatically? That information is not included in Wikidata. Should it be? And to be able to use that in a Wikipedia article, we need to add the references (P973). Regards, Yann (talk) 13:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

OK, I found how to create meaningful lists: by types of paintings, or genre. Now I only need a code to include references. Could you help? Regards, Yann (talk) 17:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

References cam be derived from many properties. Function get_references in Module:Wikidata art uses catalog code (P528)/catalog (P972), described at URL (P973) (with qualifiers), described by source (P1343) (with qualifiers), and 10 different database properties. It would be hard to get them all by queries and Module:Wikidata art might be hard to transplant to other projects. --Jarekt (talk) 02:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Nested artwork templates

Hi Jarekt, do you think we're able to detect nested templates like on File:Pietro Negroni - Visitation.jpg? I popped up at Commons:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Unable to add Wikidata link. Multichill (talk) 12:17, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Came across this from that page as well. Quick way to an incomplete list, probably with false positives: Special:Search/insource:"information description artwork", could be improved with regex searching. --Marsupium (talk) 14:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

I will try to detect Artwork, Photograph or Book template nested inside Description field of another Artwork, Photograph or Book template. But I will not detect other nesting, or nesting inside {{Information}} templates. --Jarekt (talk) 01:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikidata Bridge

Just saw this new board on Phabricator: [80], and thought that, given your Commons work, you would probably have some useful thoughts / comments / experiences for whoever is working on this.

The tickets appear to have been written by Lydia, so it would seem this is an initiative with at least some official backing. Jheald (talk) 18:25, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Jheald I talked with Wikidata team about Wikidata Bridge and it does not apply much to Commons. Wikidata Bridge is ability to edit infoboxes on some Wikipedia using visual editor, and by doing that directly change data on Wikidata. I am all for it, but Commons is probably not a good starting place as we do not use visual editor much and our project is multi lingual and we use a lot of templates (like {{Size}}, {{Title}}, {{Oil on canvas}}, etc.) to localize information in the Infoboxes. So interesting, but not related to Commons at this stage. --Jarekt (talk) 01:47, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

other versions in Artwork and Art Photo templates

Hi Jarekt, @Yann: who works on those too...

I'm just now working at adding wikidata links to many items without wikidata... and I notice a lot of images use the same wikidata item (which is quite normal).

I was wondering whether it would be possible (with lua) to auto-populate "other versions" with all the other files that use the same wikidata item (as the file used to illustrate the template holds a list of all files using it ? see File:Le_pin_à_l'Estaque_(P._Cézanne,_Musée_de_l'Orangerie).jpg for instance... could those 6 files be added to the other versions on all of them ?

what do you think ? would it be too complicated ? could there be border effect I do not think about ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 09:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, I do not think I can detect from Lua other pages that use the same item, and iven if I can that would likely be an expensive operation, we are trying to minimize. --Jarekt (talk) 01:56, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, By the way, I lately added {{Book}} template to the list of Lua based infoboxes, and could use help with Category:Books without Wikidata item. Since upi are involved with French Wikisource, it would be great if you could help with French books. --Jarekt (talk) 02:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

I will certainly... but many books on wikisource do not have a wikidata item yet either... we generally create it when we "publish" the book... and there is a lot of books to update ^^

and also, the structure of wikisource makes it quite difficult to do this. Because the ws link we add to wikidata is the link to the text in mainspace, and the scans on commons use P996, not P18. - Also, many texts can use the same scan, like all the poems of the same book, all the artice of the same serials issue, etc.

for now, as I update wikidata with wikisource books, I try to systematically add wikidata QID to corresponding scan, but I could not find any way to "automatize" it :( --Hsarrazin (talk) 07:19, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, you can start with https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=9553758 . It provides list of pages already connected on Wikidata but not on Commons. I am connecting them by hand, just to verify it is a correct match. --Jarekt (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Jarekt, but this Petscan gives 0 results. Is it normal ? --Hsarrazin (talk) 18:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, it looks like if I just click the link than I get a list "PSID 9553758" with over 200 matches. However if I right click and open in a new tab I am getting empty list. No idea what is the difference between the two. --Jarekt (talk) 19:05, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version. [81]
• There is now a field called depicts on Commons. This is a way to show what is in a picture with the help of Wikidata. It is still in development. [82]
• Some tools on Toolforge may break on or after 3 June because of database changes. Maintainers should update their tools to use the new schema. [83][84]

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [85]

Changes later this week

• Some wikis have one tab for the visual editor and one tab for a wikitext editor. Others wikis just have one tab. If your wiki has two tabs, clicking a link to create a new page has always opened a wikitext editor. It will now open the editor you used the last time you edited. [86]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 May. It will be on all wikis from 6 May (calendar).

Meetings

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15:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:NARA-image-full

Hey, Jarek! In order to reduce duplication and improve linking, I would like to start phasing out the use of all the free-text template parameters on Template:NARA-image-full and begin replacing them with references to Wikidata ID. Basically, I would like to be able to use it how I have seen {{Artwork}} used, with a simple "|wikidata=Q1234" parameter that fills in the available data from Wikidata. Then after I migrate all the data to Wikidata, I can replace the non-structured template parameters on Wikimedia Commons. Just using {{Information field}}, I started mocking up how I would like it to work at User:Dominic/template, with examples on the talk page. However, I really have no clue how to implement this design in the actual Template:NARA-image-full template, both because it is protected and because that template has so much complex and nested code that I would be afraid to touch it. Would you be able to help me through this? Thank you so much! Dominic (talk) 21:04, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Dominic I think that is a great idea. If it was me I would not focus initially on the Template:NARA-image-full template but would start with creating an item on Wikidata for each NARA image, linking it to NARA database and populating it as fully as possible with NARA data with references pointing to NARA database. That might require creating some new properties (or maybe we already have them). Only them I would populate wikidata in Template:NARA-image-full template and modify it to show more of the data from metadata. I like using QuickStatements tool for moving data to Wikidata, but others like other ways. --Jarekt (talk) 01:58, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Agreed, and I am actively working on that already, actually. I've added over 100,000 archival catalog records to Wikidata (though not all the data fields contained in the records are modeled yet) via QuickStatements so far. Still lots to do, as there are over 100 million records in NARA's catalog. :) Most of the ones I have added so far are not actually the records with digital images, but the collection-level records (i.e., the parent records of those) and authorities needed to link entities in those records. I haven't yet tackled most of the actual digitized items with Wikimedia Commons files. Since the template is one of the areas where I will need the most help, I was just reaching out early in the process to get it on your radar. Does the design I Was working on look like a good start, at least? Dominic (talk) 15:16, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Dominic, sounds like you are already part way there. Lets look at File:Farm Security Administration, Destitute pea pickers in California. Mother of seven children - NARA - 196261.tif which I just connected to d:Q3332083. {{Photograph|wikidata=Q3332083}} gives

Dorothea Lange: Migrant Mother, Nipomo, California
Photographer	Dorothea Lange  (1895–1965)      Alternative names Birth name: Dorothea Margaretta Nutzhorn; Dorothea Nutzhorn; Dorothea Lange Taylor; Dorothea Margaretta Nutzhorn Dixon Taylor Lange; Dorothea Lange Description American-German journalist, photojournalist, photographer, documentarian and artist Date of birth/death 26 May 1895  11 October 1965  Location of birth/death Hoboken San Francisco Work location United States of America; San Francisco  Authority file : Q230673 VIAF: 77594538 ISNI: 0000000368538723 ORCID: 0000-0002-9833-7917 ULAN: 500007674 LCCN: n79100159 NAID: 10582293 NLA: 35290688 MusicBrainz: 2dc92198-f040-4f4c-8ee4-62451ba26fc7 Open Library: OL4343218A GND: 118778668 SELIBR: 281865 SUDOC: 029584736 BNF: 121179469 BIBSYS: 90071713 NKC: xx0079129 SBN: CFIV108380 BNE: XX918310 CiNii: DA04587171 NLP: a0000001691718 RKD: 259681 J9U: 987007274250005171 Koninklijke: 070638640 NLK: KAC201723107 WorldCat creator QS:P170,Q230673
Title	Migrant mother, Nipomo, California  title QS:P1476,en:"Migrant mother, Nipomo, California " label QS:Len,"Migrant mother, Nipomo, California " label QS:Ltr,"Göçmen Anne" label QS:Lja,"移民の母" label QS:Lfr,"Mère migrante" label QS:Lsv,"Migrant Mother" label QS:Lhe,"אם נודדת" label QS:Lfi,"Siirtolaisäiti" label QS:Lzh,"移民母亲" label QS:Lar,"الأُمُّ المُهاجرة" label QS:Lca,"Mare immigrant"
Part of	Franklin D. Roosevelt Library Public Domain Photographs (NAID 195301)
Series title	Migrant Mother series
Object type	photograph / work of art
Genre	portrait photography
Depicted people	Florence Owens Thompson
Date	6 March 1936
Dimensions	height: 5 cm (1.9 in) ; width: 4 cm (1.5 in)  dimensions QS:P2048,+5U174728 dimensions QS:P2049,+4U174728
Collection	San Francisco Museum of Modern Art    Native name San Francisco Museum of Modern Art Location San Francisco, California, United States of America Coordinates 37° 47′ 09″ N, 122° 24′ 04″ W   Established 1935  Website www.sfmoma.org Authority file : Q913672 VIAF: 141367783 ISNI: 0000000121710624 LCCN: n79139490 NLA: 35473984 GND: 1079865-1 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q913672 Metropolitan Museum of Art    Native name Metropolitan Museum of Art Location Manhattan, New York City, United States of America Coordinates 40° 46′ 46″ N, 73° 57′ 48″ W   Established 1870  Website www.metmuseum.org  Authority file : Q160236 VIAF: 126238294 ISNI: 0000000419368761 ULAN: 500125157 LCCN: n79129629 NLA: 36247933 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q160236 Art Institute of Chicago    Native name Art Institute of Chicago Location Chicago, United States of America Coordinates 41° 52′ 46″ N, 87° 37′ 26″ W   Established 1879 Website www.artic.edu Authority file : Q239303 VIAF: 131375374 ISNI: 0000000091672697 ULAN: 500304669 LCCN: n82144329 OSM: 1870546 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q239303 Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum    Parent institution National Archives and Records Administration Location Hyde Park , United States of America Coordinates 41° 46′ 07″ N, 73° 56′ 03″ W   Established 1941  Website www.fdrlibrary.org  Authority file : Q1421442 VIAF: 239265856 ISNI: 0000000404326163 LCCN: n50061526 NAID: 3 J9U: 987007310397905171 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q1421442 Museum of Modern Art    Native name The Museum of Modern Art Parent institution New York Art Resources Consortium  Location New York City Coordinates 40° 45′ 42″ N, 73° 58′ 39″ W   Established 7 November 1929  Website moma.org Authority file : Q188740 VIAF: 128460224 ISNI: 0000000123082510 ULAN: 500303609 LCCN: n79021281 NLA: 35382586 WorldCat institution QS:P195,Q188740 ARTIC   Website www.artic.edu  Authority file : Q64732761
Accession number	71.71.10 (San Francisco Museum of Modern Art)  2000.351.1 (Metropolitan Museum of Art) NLR-PHOCO-A-65593(65) (Franklin D. Roosevelt Presidential Library and Museum) 331.1995 (Museum of Modern Art) 2013.1559 (ARTIC)
Place of creation	United States of America
References	https://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/71.71.10/  ARTIC artwork ID: 212234  ARTIC artwork ID: 212241  ARTIC artwork ID: 212240  ARTIC artwork ID: 212233  The Met object ID: 284152  Brooklyn Museum artwork ID: 127819  LACMA ID: 184006  Panorama de l'art ID: migrant-mother-nipoma-california  Museum of Modern Art work ID: 50989  National Gallery of Victoria artwork ID: 8153  100 Photographs: The Most Influential Images of All Time
Authority file	: Q3332083 VIAF: 410156811364445390002 LCCN: n2019051911 NAID: 196261 WorldCat

and if NARA has more metadata which can be added to Wikidata, I can work on adding it to the regular {{Photograph}} template. I see User:Dominic/template accesses:

• title (P1476) already handled
• U.S. National Archives Identifier (P1225) already handled through Authority control, but can do more
• inventory number (P217) already handled
• creator (P170) already handled
• author (P50) already handled
• donated by (P1028) not handled
• contributor to the creative work or subject (P767) not handled
• made from material (P186) already handled
• production date (P2754) not handled, as we use inception (P571) and publication date (P577)
• location (P276) already handled
• level of description (P6224) not handled
• part of (P361) not handled
• collection (P195) already handled
• copyright status (P6216) not handled - I am planning to write new module for this

It seems we already display most of those properties. Others like donated by (P1028) or part of (P361) we should just add to module:Artwork as others might be using them. Some of the properties here I do not understand, so I would need to do some homework. Ideally NARA files would only need wikicode like {{Photograph|wikidata=Q3332083}}. However, if some parts like complicated cascading National Archives Identifiers would add too much bulk to generic code, than we can use "other fields" to add NARA specific fields. --Jarekt (talk) 17:41, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them. [87][88]
• The Flagged Revisions extension now uses the standard OOUI icons. There will be additional minor fixes for positioning in the next deployment. [89]
• Bots and other scripts that do not set an identifiable User-Agent may find their requests strictly rate-limited until they identify themselves properly. [90]

Problems

• Please check if the Flagged Revisions configuration on your wiki is as you expect (or as it was a few weeks ago). If not, please report it. [91]

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:06, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Template:BArch-image - Title display broken?

Hi Jarekt, it appears that the title bar on top of the file description has a small error: It always displays the text 15px|link=. After the title if there is one; by itself if none. Even visible in the usage example on the template's Commons page itself. Would you be so kind to look into this? 2.247.243.222 14:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Looking at the source code, it's from a call to Template:File. But, as far as I can see, Wikimedia's version of Template:File does not accept such input. It is meant for listing linked files only and takes only file names. 2.247.240.138 14:28, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

2.247.240.138, I am trying to figure out where is it coming from, but I am not sure yet. --Jarekt (talk) 04:11, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I think, I just solved it: The opening "#if:"-statement in the title field sees the plaintext separator "|" in front of "15px|link=..." and thinks: "Ok, end of the "then" statement. Here comes the "else" statement.".

Apparently, the original intention for this part was not to have any "else" statement at all. A fix would make use of another way to display the little info graphic. Preferrably by use of a template, where any separators would be protected within its {} parentheses and thus ignored by the external "if" statement.

I have no account and can't edit to fix it myself. Could you do it, please? 2.247.240.8 23:22, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - testing qualifiers for depicts

As you might have seen, testing is underway for adding qualifiers to depicts statements. If you have not left feedback already, the Structured Data on Commons development team is very interested in hearing about your experience using qualifiers on the file page and in the UploadWizard. To get started you can visit Test-Commons and chose a random file to test out, or upload your own file to try out the UploadWizard. Questions, comments, and concerns can be left on the Structured data talk page and the team will address them as best as they can. Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Category:RCE suggested: Wijwatervat

Hello, The Category:RCE suggested: Wijwatervat is created by your bot. Items can be moved to Category:Stoups in the Netherlands and afterwards, the Category:RCE suggested: Wijwatervat can be deleted. Sorry, I can't... --Havang(nl) (talk)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 01:16, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for 30 minutes on 19 June at 05:00 (UTC). This is to fix a hardware problem. [92]

Changes later this week

• MIDI files can soon be played without the Score extension. You can then add them with [[File:Filename.midi]]. Later override_midi and override_audio will stop working. Instead you will need to add the MIDI file below the music score. [93]
• A new video player will soon replace the old one. You will be able to enable it as a beta feature in your preferences. It will later be enabled for everyone if there are no big problems. [94]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 June. It will be on all wikis from 20 June (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some gadgets and user scripts still use the old wgEnableAPI and wgEnableWriteAPI values. These values are always true. They will soon be removed. This might break the gadgets and scripts. You should fix your gadgets to not use these values. [95]

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20:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Category:Stanisław Zarzecki

Witaj;) Proszę o pomoc w określeniu właściwej licencji trzech ostatnich zdjęć w kategorii [96], by nadal mogły być na commons. Zdjęcia te pochodzą z kolekcji rodzinnej rodziny pilota, która została mi udostępniona przy pisaniu artykułu o tym człowieku ([97]). Zala (talk) 07:38, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Zala, Problem w tym ze nie wiem nic na temat autorstwa oryginalnych zdjęć. w tej chwili opis twierdzi ze ty jesteś fotografem który zrobił te zdjęcia i ze ty udostępniasz je na licencji "Creative Commons". User:Masur poprawnie podejrzewa ze licencja nie jest poprawna, ale bez informacji na temat oryginalnych fotografów trudno jest to naprawić:

• Jeśli ze zdjęcia były opublikowane w Polsce to moglibyśmy użyć {{PD-Polish}}
• Jeśli ze zdjęcia były opublikowane przed wojna bez podania imienia fotografa to moglibyśmy użyć {{PD-anon-70}}
• Jeśli fotografem był ktoś z rodziny to osoba która przesłała ci te zdjęcia mogla by udostępnić je jako {{PD-heir}}. Przypuszczalnie musiała by tez przesłać maila do com:OTRS (mogę z tym pomóc).

User:Masur, czy przeoczyłem jakieś opcje? --Jarekt (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Dziękuję za pomoc;) Zala (talk) 06:13, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

CatScan2-Gadget

Hi Jarek, there's a slight problem with the current version of MediaWiki:Gadget-CatScan2-link.js and PetScan - setting ext_image_data makes PetScan searches fail with a 502 bad gateway error (see also PetScan Issue #156). I don't have privileges to change the Gadgets source code, and i don't know who has those privileges. Since you were the last user to edit it, i suppose that you're able to help :-) - it would be great if you could check this issue. Thanks in advance! --Fl.schmitt (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Fl.schmitt, I can edit MediaWiki:Gadget-CatScan2-link.js, but since I do not speak java script, I only do very simple fixes. I will not be able to fix PetScan. --Jarekt (talk) 01:38, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Jarek, sorry, i didn't expect you to fix the 502 issue with petscan, my request wasn't formulated in a clear manner. I thought it would be sufficient for a quick&dirty workaround if you could remove the &ext_image_data=1 part of the URL that's generated by the Gadget code. This would make the 502 error disappear, at least as long as the user doesn't set this option in Petscan UI manually (but that's in fact a PetScan issue, not a Gadget issue). --Fl.schmitt (talk) 07:14, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

already solved, nor more action required --Fl.schmitt (talk) 09:15, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi. I was following this thread because the CatScan links on Category:Meta categories and Category:Categories requiring permanent diffusion to zero haven't been working. I tried them again after you posted that things were working again, and they still aren't working. Would it be possible for you to take a look at those, too? Maybe the syntax or something has changed from what's coded on those category pages. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 05:28, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

@Auntof6: - the initial problem (502 bad gateway error) is in fact solved. If PetScan fails on the categories you've mentioned, it must have a different cause, and i assume it's a PetScan issue, not a Gadget issue. We should continue discussing that topic elsewhere - i think the PetScan issue tracker is better suited for this. @Jarekt: sorry for bothering you... --Fl.schmitt (talk) 07:46, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your reply. Where would I find the PetScan issue tracker? --Auntof6 (talk) 07:48, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• The new version of MediaWiki for last week was not fully released due to issues. It was removed from most wikis on Tuesday and from test wikis on Thursday. [98]
• Most wikis were slow and then briefly read-only last week due to one of the database servers having a problem. It is now replaced. [99]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 June. It will be on all wikis from 27 June (calendar).

Meetings

• You can watch or join the next Wikimedia Language showcase. It will be about the usage of Machine Translation in Wikimedia projects. The showcase will be on 26 June at 13:00 (UTC). A recording will be kept for later viewing
• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 26 June at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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17:29, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Photo Challenge

Thanks again for all the work you do on the photo challenge. In previous years, you have asked for help while you are on holiday. So to let you know I will be on holiday from the 1st August for a week (and likely busy the evening or two before that). I hope our holidays do not clash, or we can find some work-around. -- Colin (talk) 10:37, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Colin Thanks for heads up. I will keep that in mind. --Jarekt (talk) 03:18, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• The development of Wikidata Bridge has started. The goal is to allow Wikidata edits from Wikipedia. [100]

Problems

• Sometimes pages load slowly for users routed to the Amsterdam data center. Investigation is in progress. [101]
• Wikidata query service was overloaded between 11:50 UTC until 13:15 UTC on June 24. It has been fixed. [102]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit all wikis for a short amount of time, on 3 July at 06:00 (UTC). This is to move a database. [103]
• There is no deployment of a new version of MediaWiki on the wikis this week (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 3 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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21:22, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Pics uploaded by Kudlaaaty

Hi Jarek, do you think you can have a closer legal look at the files uploaded by this User. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 09:32, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Boston9, I wrote to User talk:Kudlaaaty and through OTRS to the firm of the architect Andrzej Chołdzyński. Mr. Chołdzyński firm was giving permissions to all uploads of Kudlaaaty, but the last permission was filed in 2014. --Jarekt (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Brilliant. Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 19:08, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Template:Book... always....

Hello Jarekt,

After this discussion, I waited for a "big button" back on the "Book template", because it is now really a problem to explain to wikisource contributors how they can create the Book on wikisource... they just cannot see it... it is too small, and looks like some small link, while it was our main tool to create the link between Commons and Wikisource...

I understand that for Commoners, it is not useful, but for wikisourcers who upload books occasionnally, it is really necessary...

Could you please add the button to "Index" space (link in the template) back where it was... big and really visible... Thanks ! --Hsarrazin (talk) 09:39, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Hsarrazin, The big icon was back (briefly), but new code created a weird issue that for some small number of pages the image on the right disappeared all together. I spend a while debugging, but never found the reason why it worked for some and did not worked for other pages, so the new addition was reverted. Lately I was prioritizing fixes that lead to "correct" edits at Wikidata when clicking on QS arrow for files in Category:Books with Wikidata item: quick statements. The issue with big icon is that it is a hack which is and always was, using different data organization than the rest of the template. Maybe we should rethink the whole data presentation. How about if we display "Wikisource" fields instead, with separated Wikisource index page URL (P1957) and sitelink(s)? That would be much more similar to the rest of the table. --Jarekt (talk) 14:21, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Adding mention after comment

Hi! I’ve just noticed you tried to ping me in this edit. As you may have already figured out from my previous sentence, you haven’t succeeded. This is because a fresh signature is needed for a mention placed in the page text. In such case, you have three possibilities:

• Create a whole comment, like [[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]], I forgot to mention you. ~~~~.
• Add the text you added now, but also link to my user page in the edit comment, e.g. /* ‎Decades formatting for Hungarian */ pinging [[User:Tacsipacsi|Tacsipacsi]]. Mentions in the edit summary work regardless of the signature; they are designed to be used in content namespaces, where there are no signatures at all.
• Sit back and hope I’ll notice it anyway. Effectively this was the case now. :) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:14, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Maybe you would like to comment?

Hi Jarek, maybe you would like to comment on this and inject some practical knowledge into our community? We need a brave man here:) Unfortunately our local Commons admins are slow to comment (actually, we do not have many). Boston9 (talk) 22:53, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 16:42, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-28

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Recent changes

• For event organizers, if you request a temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation, this will now also raise the edit rate limit for those new accounts at the event, which will prevent another bottleneck. [104]
• Administrators at all Wiktionary, Wikivoyage, and Wikisource wikis are now able to use the new partial blocks feature. [105]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 July. It will be on all wikis from 11 July (calendar).
• The design of MediaWiki's software windows will change for desktop users. Layout will be simpler, buttons will be bolder and clearer, and close buttons will be just icons. This is like the mobile design. This will affect ContentTranslation, VisualEditor, TemplateWizard, and other tools. [106]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [107]
• There will be a change in the name format of new Wikidata RDF dumps starting on 15 July. [108]

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20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-29

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• The mobile web will get more advanced editing tools. Seven more Wikipedias can use them now. This works for Arabic, Indonesian, Italian, Persian, Japanese, Spanish and Thai Wikipedia. You can try the tools on the mobile web and give feedback. [109]

Changes later this week

• The abuse filter system user will soon do maintenance edits on broken abuse filters. This user is called Abuse filter and has administrator rights. This is meant to fix technical problems. It will not do any other changes. You can read more.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 July. It will be on all wikis from 18 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 17 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add image captions to images on Commons. It will only invite users who have added a number of edits in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback. [110]

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15:29, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons - IRC office hours this week, 18 July

The Structured Data team is hosting an IRC office hour this week on Thursday, 18 July, from 17:00-18:00 UTC. Joining information as well as date and time conversion is available on Meta. Potential topics for discussion are the testing of "other statements", properties that may need to be created for Commons on Wikidata soon, plans for the rest of SDC development, or whatever you might want to discuss. The development team looks forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:51, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Over-ruling label value in Module:Wikidata label

Hi Jarekt,

For your consideration: I've added an additional parameter, text, in Module:Wikidata label/sandbox, to allow the generated label value to be by-passed, and a specific text used for the link label instead.

The specific application I'm thinking of this for is in eg the description of a file like File:LEWIS(1833) p1.028 MAP OF NORTH AND SOUTH WALES.jpg, in the 'Bibliographic data' section, where I would like to present the name of the book and the name of the author in the form as given in the library catalogue, rather than the Wikidata label, but still link to any Commons category or Wikipedia article we may have for them.

A downside is that terms like "the Elder" in the author name don't get translated. But I prefer to stick with the name from the source, so that that is still presented as found, even in a case where we might have matched to the wrong Q-item.

I've just made a fairly minimal hack, to put the override in at the last moment, diff, to make the change as small as possible, but you might prefer to do something more efficient and/or bulletproofed.

Hope this is okay,

Best regards, Jheald (talk) 10:18, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Restoring this from archive.

I don't have write permissions for the module itself. If you're okay with the change, could you copy from the sandbox to the live code?

Thanks. Jheald (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Jheald, Strange I remember writing reply to the original post. Maybe I did not press "save". Anyway the issue I have is that function p._getLabel is a part of the exposed interface to the module and the module is used on 7.7 M pages. I do not know if we can change number of parameters to the function without breaking something. I also do not see the need, If you want to link to "Commons category or Wikipedia article" but use your own label than just use link in the form [[link|label]], as I do not see the need for this module. --Jarekt (talk) 02:37, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-30

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Recent changes

• Communities interested by easing newcomers' first steps can now benefit from the Growth team experiments on their wikis. Check the conditions and the request process.
• The Coolest Tool Award 2019 is looking for nominations. You can recommend tools by July 29. The awarded tools will be presented at Wikimania. [111]

Problems

• The release of the last version of MediaWiki (1.34.0-wmf.14) has been blocked for groups 1 and 2. [112]

Changes later this week

• Phabricator database will be moved to a different server. Writes will be blocked on Thursday 25 July, between 05:30 and 06:00 AM UTC. Reads will remain unaffected. [113]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 July. It will be on all wikis from 25 July (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 24 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Some items in the visual editor will change later this week. This will make it easier to edit links, citations, and templates on both desktop and mobile. [114][115]
• With advanced search turned on you will be able to choose the sorting order of the search results when you do a search. [116][117]
• Users who edit from IP addresses whitelisted on a request for temporary lift of the IP cap for mass account creation will bypass CAPTCHAs. This will happen in August. If you think this should not happen for some reason, please let us know.
• The variable user_wpzero will be removed from AbuseFilter. A list of filters needing a fix is provided.

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13:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - testing other statements

You can now test using other statements for structured data on the file page on Test-Commons. Some datatypes are not yet available, such a coordinates, but further support will be extended soon. You can find more information about testing on the SDC talk page. The team looks forward to your feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

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Problems

• Wikidata will be in read-only mode on 30 July from 05:00 to 05:30 UTC because of a server switch. [118]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 31 July at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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21:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

No image on Wikidata

Shouldn't File:Alexander Thiele - Gezicht op het kuuroord Augustusbad nabij Radeberg - Gal.-Nr. 3709 - Staatliche Kunstsammlungen Dresden.jpg end up in some tracking category because View of the Spa 'Augustusbad' at Radeberg (Q50326641) doesn't have image (P18)? I would expect the file in Category:Artworks with Wikidata item missing image. Multichill (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I would expect it there too. Maybe I broke something with some recent edit. Adding |image={{PAGENAME}} to the file adds Category:Artworks with Wikidata item missing image. I will look into it. --Jarekt (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll leave it like this so you have an image to test with. I think quite a few pictures will turn up after you fix it. Multichill (talk) 12:42, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Bump? This would be quite useful to have fixed for images like File:0025 Boby 1907.jpg. Multichill (talk) 10:11, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

Ping? :-) Multichill (talk) 17:17, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing, I see it's (slowly) filling up again. Multichill (talk) 18:53, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 August. It will be on all wikis from 8 August (calendar).

Problems

• A change in RelatedArticles extension accidentally enabled it for everyone, not just for mobile users. This has been fixed. [119][120]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 7 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Today everyone can see IP addresses if someone edits without an account. In the future this could be more hidden. This is to protect unregistered editors so fewer can see their IP address. This would only happen after we make sure the tools for vandal fighting can still be effective. You can read more and comment.

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13:24, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Topic of July Photochallenge is aquaculture

Hello Jarekt:

You are listed as the page editor for the July 2019 Photo Challenge. If you are not the right person for this message, please direct me.

When I entered the July 2019 Photo Challenge a couple of weeks ago, the topic was listed as "aquaculture". Now in voting, the topic name for this Photo Challenge has been changed to "fishing", a more restrictive subset of aquaculture.

I would not have entered the images I did for a fishing topic. Can the topic name for the July Photo Challenge be changed back to the original "aquaculture" so that voting can reflect on that topic?

Best - --GRDN711 (talk) 18:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

GRDN711, you are right, the topic was fishing and aquaculture. I corrected it at Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - July - Fishing/Voting. Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 16:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Okładki

Mam spore wątpliwości co do copywright kilku okładek. To jednak są kompozycje oparte na typografii, a ładujący je user raczej nie jest ich autorem: Special:Contributions/Danilas. Możesz sprawdzić? Sławek Borewicz (talk) 09:47, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Panie Sławeku, Masz racje ze Danilas nie jest autorem tych okładek. Danilas twierdzi tutaj ze "posiada niezbędne pełnomocnictwa" na udostępnienie tych plików. Zakładam ze jest to prawda ale nie ma żadnego dowodu. Moglibyśmy go poprosić o maila do OTRS, ale bardziej prostym rozwiązaniem byłaby zmiana licencji na {{PD-text}}. Wiec właśnie zmieniłem wszystkie licencje. --Jarekt (talk) 16:00, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-33

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Recent changes

• Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools. Feedback on the discussion page is appreciated. [121]
• Due to the absence of volunteer maintenance of Cologne Blue skin, the link to activate it will be hidden. The skin will still work, but editors using it are encouraged to switch to another skin. [122]

Changes later this week

• Due to Wikimania, there is no deployment this week. [123]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The "Wikidata item" link will be moved from "Tools" to "In other projects" section on all Wikimedia projects, starting on August 21. Full announcement, Phabricator task.

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18:18, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Module:Wikidata Infobox

Thanks for the edits. I've reverted them for now as they caused an error - "Lua error in Module:Wikidata_Infobox at line 27: Tried to write global part2", and that module is already used in some categories. I've moved them to Module:Wikidata Infobox/sandbox - can you use that to test changes, please, and if you can spot the error please fix it? :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

I think I got that one now, but there's a different bug at User:Mike Peel/luasandbox... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 08:24, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Mike, I fixed the problem with User:Mike Peel/luasandbox. Adding Module:No globals is a good idea while developing a new module as it allows you to quickly find badly initialized variables, which can make your life miserable latter on. All the other changes to the code I was trying to test with Module:Wikidata Infobox/testcases and Module talk:Wikidata Infobox/testcases to verify that my changes do not change the outcome of the functions. More tests should be added there, like for example I added your test from User:Mike Peel/luasandbox. --Jarekt (talk) 12:27, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm trying to reduce the number of dependencies that the infobox has, so that it's easier to install on other wikis. I have no objections to including no globals, but I've added the code for it directly into the new module rather than the link to the code. This is the first time I've tried coding in Lua, so go easy on me please. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 14:10, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Mike, Module:No globals (Q16748603) is well established on most of the wikis and I believe that in most the code is identical. So I would just link to it as it makes your code more readable. Hey, it is a great first start in Lua. I have a few additional thoughts:

• Some of the functions like the code for stripping diacrits and string comparison might be useful for other projects and should probably be in a new module.
• Most developers of lua code seem to follow w:Manual:Coding conventions. Your function naming does not follow it. It is not an issue, but it would be nicer.
• Large number of dependencies is a big problem when porting to other wikis. My early lua codes often had many diverse functions but different other modules needed only this one or that one, it was easier to to split them into smaller chunks. That way, corrections to one function does not trigger refresh of so many pages and it is easier to test.

Sorry, if it feels like I am not "go[ing] easy on" you, I was stuck at an airport for 5 hours and had a lot of time to kill. A lot of operations you are writing were done in one for or another in other codes and we found simpler or more efficient ways of doing it. For example stripping diacrits code was discussed at length here and other places. --Jarekt (talk) 15:13, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

It's OK, I appreciate your changes, they mostly look good. :-) Reducing dependencies is the main aim of this work, though, so even if it's likely that the modules already exist, that shouldn't be assumed - particularly for the smallest wikis. The aim is to reduce the number of modules/templates required to run the Wikidata Infobox to an absolute minimum (probably circa 5-10) so it is much more portable / easier to keep in sync across wikis. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:48, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-34

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Tech News

• There will be no Tech News issue next week. The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 2 September 2019.

Problems

• Some abuse filters stopped working because of a code change. Only variables for the current action will work. Variables defined inside a branch may not work outside of that branch. You can read more to see how to fix the filters.
• Only six accounts can be created from one IP address per day. Between 12 August and August 15 this was two accounts per day. This was because of a security issue. It is now six accounts per day again. [124]

Changes later this week

• Only a limited number of accounts can be created from one IP address. An IP address can be whitelisted so that it can create as many accounts as needed. This is useful at events where many new persons learn to edit. IP addresses that are whitelisted for this reason will also not show CAPTCHAs when you create accounts. This will happen on Wednesday. [125]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 August. It will be on all wikis from 22 August (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 21 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There is an RFC about creating a new global user group with the right to edit abuse filters. This will be used to fix broken filters and make sure all filters will still work when software changes happen. You can read more and comment.
• Special:Contributions/newbies will no longer be working. This is because of performance reasons. It showed edits by new accounts. You can see this in the recent changes feed instead. [126]

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15:20, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Tickets to the Polin Museum

Hi Jarek, could you have a look? It was tagged as the work without permission by one of my colleagues but then the User has removed the tag. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 07:09, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

I nominated the image for deletion. DR tag is harder to remove. --Jarekt (talk) 02:16, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Photo challenge/2019 - August - Doors and Doorways/Voting

Hello Jarekt,

as you are listed in the version history of 'Photo challenge/2019 - August - Doors and Doorways/Voting', I'll address my question to you: I think there is a bug in the triple listing of 'Old wooden medieval door in the old town of Kotor Montenegro' (Numbers 235 - 237) in the voting list. --PtrQs (talk) 14:26, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

PtrQs, thanks for pointing it out. I removed the duplicates. Apparently the file was added 3 times to Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - August - Doors and Doorways and the code that creates the voting page does not check for that case. --Jarekt (talk) 00:43, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-36

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Recent changes

• You can use the new termbox interface if you edit Wikidata on a mobile device. This is to edit labels, descriptions and aliases easier on the mobile pages. [127]
• The new version of MediaWiki has been deployed during the last week.
• The previously announced change of positions of the "Wikidata item" link on all wikis has been rollbacked due to unexpected cache issues. [128]
• The limit for rollbacks has been increased from 10 to 100 rollbacks per minute. [129]
• The advanced version of the edit review pages (Recent Changes, Watchlist, and Related Changes) now include two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces. However the "All discussions" filter does not include pseudo talk pages, like discussions that are in the Project: or Wikipedia: namespaces. But it will include changes happening on Project talk: or the Wikipedia talk:. [130]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 September. It will be on all wikis from 5 September (calendar).
• When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if your password is one of the most common passwords in the world. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password. [131]

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on September 10 at 05:00 (UTC). [132]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 17 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [133]
• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes September 24 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [134]
• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on September 26 at 05:00 (UTC). [135]

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09:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-37

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Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikidata for up to 30 minutes on 10 September at 05:00 (UTC). [136]
• When you log in, the software checks your password to see if it follows the Password policy. From this week, it will also complain if you are a "privileged user" and your password is too short. If your password is not strong enough, please consider to change your password for a stronger password. [137]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 September. It will be on all wikis from 12 September (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Soon, the AbuseFilter will recognize new syntax errors. Specifically, it will recognize errors about empty operands. You can see a list of examples in phab:T156096. Any active filter with such an error will stop working; hence, please take a look at the list of affected filters, and fix the ones that you can fix. Note that there is also an ongoing RFC on meta-wiki about the creation of a new abusefilter-manager global group.

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17:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-38

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Problems

• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The developers are working on the problem. [138]
• There was a problem with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was paused. [139]

Changes later this week

• You will be able to read but not to edit some mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes on September 17 at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [140]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 September. It will be on all wikis from 19 September (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The Wikipedia app for Android invites users to do small tasks. This is to get more readers to edit. If they get reverted too many times it will pause or block the tasks for that user. All normal editing will still work if the community doesn't block the user. The developers want to know if the plan looks OK. You can see what it could look like and give feedback.
• When you look at an old version of a page you get a warning that this is not the newest version. This uses the CSS class .mw-revision. It will use the CSS class .warningbox for styling instead. If your wiki uses templates to change how the warning looks they will have to be updated. This will happen later. If this would cause problems you should tell the developers in the next couple of weeks. [141]

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15:07, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging

The development team is starting work on one of the last planned features for SDC v1.0, a lightweight tool to suggest depicts tags for images. I've published a project page for it, please have a look. I plan to share this page with everyone on Commons much more broadly in the coming days. The tool has been carefully designed to try to not increase any workload on Commons volunteers; for starters, it will be opt-in for auto-confirmed users only and will not generate any sort of backlog here on Commons. Additionally, the tool is highly privacy-minded for the contributors and publicly-minded for the third party being used, in this case Google. The implementation and usage notes contain more information about these and other potential concerns as a starting place. It's really important that the tool is implemented properly from the start, so feedback is welcome. Questions, comments, concerns are welcome on the talk page and I will get answers as quickly as possible as things come up. On the talk page you can also sign up to make sure you're a part of the feedback for designs and prototype testing. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Question

Hi Jarek, I have just uploaded this photo and now I have second thoughts. Do you think it is OK as far as our copyright Commons regulations are concerned? Jerzy Nowosielski died in 2011 but he donated all his works to Wesoła Roman Catholic Community (i.e. he did not take any money, this is what he often did for not very affluent local parishes). I have no idea whom to ask for the OTRS permission, if needed. Thank you very much for your Commons insights here. Boston9 (talk) 15:04, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Boston9, The policy that applies here is Commons:De minimis, and I agree that this image might be problematic, since the icons are the main subject of the photo. The permission to OTRS would have to come from the family/heirs of the creator Jerzy Nowosielski, a most likely impossible task. --Jarekt (talk) 16:18, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Very true. No idea where to start with the heirs. I will contact the parish, however, maybe they could help me out. If not, I will ask for deletion of these pics (there are more):( Boston9 (talk) 18:31, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-39

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Problems

• Some edits that used the visual editor were not working. This has now been fixed. [142]
• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The developers are working on the problem. [143]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 September. It will be on all wikis from 26 September (calendar).
• You will be able to read but not to edit an important number of mid-sized wikis for up to 30 minutes on 24 September at 05:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. [144]
• You will be able to read but not to edit Wikimedia Commons for up to 30 minutes on 26 September at 05:00 (UTC). [145]

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• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Internet Explorer 6 and 7 might not be supported in the future. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They would not get security support. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them makes the wikis less secure for everyone else. [146]

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20:20, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - blogs posted in Wikimedia Space

There are two separate blog entries for Structured Data on Commons posted to Wikimedia Space that are of interest:

• Working with Structured Data on Commons: A Status Report, by Lucas Werkmeister, discusses some ways that editors can work with structured data. Topics include tools that have been written or modified for structured data, in addition to future plans for tools and querying services.
• Structured Data on Commons - A Blog Series, written by me, is a five-part posting that covers the basics of the software and features that were built to make structured data happen. The series is meant to be friendly to those who may have some knowledge of Commons, but may not know much about the structured data project.

I hope these are informative and useful, comments and questions are welcome. All the blogs offer a comment feature, and you can log in with your Wikimedia account using oAuth. I look forward to seeing some posts over there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - September - Horses

Commons:Photo challenge/2019 - September - Horses has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this project page, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

37.150.217.9 15:24, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

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• Last week's Tech News had delivery problems. Some did not get the newsletter. Some got it more than one time. The problem where some pages got it three times should now be fixed. [147]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 October. It will be on all wikis from 3 October (calendar).

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Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation Community Tech team is working on a watchlist expiry feature. This means you can put things on your watchlist for a period of time instead of forever. They are looking for feedback on the questions they have.
• Special:Contributions will get the standard OOUI look. This makes it easier to use on mobile and makes it look like other Special: pages. There is a script you can use to make the form smaller if you want to. [148]

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16:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

?????

Can you explain this why you did this?

• [149]
• [150]

-- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 20:45, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, as you can see in the documentation of {{Artwork}} template it is meant for photographs of artworks and other museum artifacts, and in that context wikidata links to an wikidata item where properties of that artwork or artifact are stored. That link allow properties of such artworks/artifacts to be pulled from wikidata if missing here and for such properties to be copied from commons to wikidata if they are missing there. Your use of {{Artwork}} template for photographs of a road and a town and than associating it with wikidata item for "territorial entity" of Catas Altas Historial Centre (Q69031557) breaks all those assumptions and produces template with potential for some confusing metadata being pulled from wikidata and potential for wrong metadata beeing copied from here to there. Please do not misuse the current infoboxes. --Jarekt (talk) 02:06, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Jarekt,

This is a historical centre, it's a cultural heritage site as many others. This is not a QID for a city, this is a QID for the cultural heritage.

And you are make assumptions that are not correct.

-- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 06:24, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, I well might be a photograph taken in cultural heritage site, but looking at it it looks like it looks to me like a photograph of a car parked on a wide road. It makes no sense to use for it infobox designed for artworks to display statements pulled from wikidata. Please use {{Information}} template for such images. --Jarekt (talk) 02:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

No, I will do not put Information.

You are wrong on that matter.

What looks to you is not the utterly truth, the centre of the city is well represented by this photo. Bring the Wikidata information add a lot of education repertory for the image, and have no drop backs.

I have no more to add here. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 02:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton, But the photo is not of an artwork or any type of "object" so using template designed for artworks, which mentions "objects" in the field names makes no sense. People will start looking for objects in the image and the only object is VW Bug. There are other ways you can link to Wikidata item if you like. You can even pull the content of the wikidata statements for example {{#statements:P31|from=Q69031557}} will give you "old town". Just stop misusing, {{Artwork}} template. --Jarekt (talk) 02:42, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Next time I go to the parking car, and move it with my hands just to you allow the correct template that brings more information to the file.

And object: a thing that you can see or touch but that is not usually a living animal, plant, or person [151].

I'll request the deletion of the file, as it do not represent what I wanted with my photo. Thank you for your great contribution. -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton ^m 09:40, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

A request by a new user

Can you please delete this wikidata item? I created it when I wasn’t logged onto my account. I later realised that it has a duplicate.-VaibhavafroTalk 06:55, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Another user has already helped me with this. No need to bother you now. Regards, VaibhavafroTalk 15:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - modeling data

As you may have seen, there are community discussions underway on how to best model structured data on Commons.

Direct links to pages created so far:

• Date (talk)
• Source (talk)
• Author (talk)
• Copyright (talk)
• Licensing (talk)
• Location (talk)
• Quality (talk)

Please visit and participate in topics you might be interested in when you get some time. Thanks. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up. --Jarekt (talk) 02:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

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• The abuse filter function now has a faster parser. This is to shorten the waiting time when you save an edit. [152]

Problems

• There is a problem in the visual editor when you copy or delete text with footnotes. It will be fixed soon. [153]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 October. It will be on all wikis from 10 October (calendar).

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15:35, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Computer-aided tagging design consultation

The computer-aided tagging designs are ready for review. Thank you for signing up for advance notice; you may receive a similar, automated message tomorrow. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:59, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Location

Hi Jarekt, you did a lot with the template {{Location}} so I suppose you are the right one to de asked. I intend an expansion to that template: often I got geodata in the format e.g. gg° mm′ ss″ N gg° mm′ ss″ E and needed to replace all the symbols by the pipe character. I am thinking that I am not the only one wishing a third input format.

I wrote a template {{Loca deg}} to convert the symbols to pipes, and to pass the the parameters to {{Location}}. It works fine, and it is documented with example at Location/doc. But IMHO it would be better to use the original template name. I expanded the /sandbox to enable it to work with all three input formats, and it works also fine - the user just enters one of the three formats without needing to use another template name, and the conversion occurs automatically.
Examples: File:Cimetière de Saint-Romain-d'Ay 00.jpg with Template:Loca deg, Cimetière de Saint-Alban-d'Ay 00.jpg with Location/sandbox
Now my question: Do you also think it a good idea to have that expansion? I want to use my possibilities as a template editor with responsability. In advance I am seeking a wider consensus with competent user(s). While ((T0|Loca_deg}} does not alter anything and is finally using Location, the other version will expand the code of the template. I am a bit hesitating to edit that template, it is transcluded 12.5 Mio times. The current functions are not influenced, just a third function is added. -- sarang♥사랑 15:42, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

sarang, I do prefer as little variation in {{Location}} inputs as possible, but this could be a fine change. I looked through Module:Loca deg and simplified it a bit in Module:Loca deg/sandbox. We would have to change both {{Location}} and {{Object location}}. --Jarekt (talk) 03:06, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you - as you can see, my LUA knowledge is rather poor, and your simplifications are fine.

I suggest to change the mode=camera in {{Location}} to mode={{{mode|camera}}}, so we can have a very simple {{Object location}} which just passes the parameters to {{Location}} with mode={{{mode|object}}}; but the “one-parameter-version” should default to object because the geodata string never will come from a camera but from wikimapia or other extern sources.

When attributes should be passed positional, it can be done as 9= with 8 parms, or 3= with 2 parms and also 3= with the new possibility of 1 parm.

BTW, there is no possibility to invoke a module with parameters from an invocation? I think on {{{#invoke:Coordinates| LocationTemplateCore| ... |lon={{#invoke:Loca_deg...}} ...}} but the parameter(s) are passed without solving the inner invocation before; it's only possible to transfer the complete work of the inner Loca_deg into the outer Coordinates?

It did not work when I tried it, but your version does. -- sarang♥사랑 06:52, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

For last decade or so {{Location}} was for camera location and {{Object location}} for object location and their behavior is very predictable. I would be OK with making {{Location|mode=object}} equivalent to {{Object location}}, but I do not think {{Location}} should switch to object location mode just based on the input format. I understand that string in the format gg° mm′ ss″ N gg° mm′ ss″ E is more likely for objects not cameras, but format and mode should stay independent. Another possibility is to keep (tl|Loca_deg}} as is and run a bot job every year or so to convert all files using that template to proper {{Object location}}. Another possibility is to expand Module:Coordinates to allow 2 parameter input in the form: {{Object location|gg° mm′ ss″ N|gg° mm′ ss″ E}}, that way there would be very minimal changes to the current code (I would just add a bit of code to function p.LocationTemplateCore(frame)) and the only change you would have to make to string like gg° mm′ ss″ N gg° mm′ ss″ E would be to add one pipe character.--Jarekt (talk) 11:59, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok, when you think that format and mode should stay independent. Location without the mode= parameter displays a neutral version (neither "camera" nor "object") which IMHO is in many cases sufficient, the mode-specification is not always such a necessarity. How about that:

• {{Location}} defaults to mode=camera, if not specified otherwise
• {{Object location}} switches to {{Location}} with the default mode=object, if not specified otherwise
• in both cases it is possible to specify an empty parameter value mode= which will avoid the defaultings.

At the moment most of my locations got (erroneously) the “camera” prefix because I used the simple Location instead of the other one.

About the format version with one pipe I understand that it would minimize the needed coding changes; on the other hand, I think that input should be as easy (and self explaining) as possible, even when it is only one pipe that comes to a copy/paste action: the software should do the work, not the editor! So I am not so happy with this idea. -- sarang♥사랑 12:30, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

We had this template since 2006, and when I started working on it in 2009, the interface was mostly agreed on and unchanging, since a lot of images were already using it. Through all the changes since, the basics of the interface did not change, so I am weary to introduce too many changes now. I do not think we need "neutral" mode, especially since the difference between two modes is not just label, but also how images are interacting with external tools. I am a bit unsure about what to do about the fact that the last unnamed parameter was always "attributes"; we allowed at some point to use it as a named parameter, but the default is that it is OK to use it as unnamed last parameter. So we should expect to see some tags like {{Object location|gg° mm′ ss″ N gg° mm′ ss″ E|heading:N}}. May be the best way is to just leave it as is, and occasionally run a bot job to convert from {{Loca deg}} to {{Object location}}.--Jarekt (talk) 13:33, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

We do not need a bot, there are only very few images with the test version “Loca_deg” – I can do it swiftly and manually, even not needing VFC.

As far as I can see, we will need to distinguish whether parameter 4 exists, and if not whether parameter 2 is specified. So in the latter case, two pipes between the location string and the last, unnamed parameter seem to me not too bad, to have no parameter 2. The last parameter is either no. 9, or no. 3 in the other both formats.

Agreeing with all other aspects mentioned by you, I assume that the sandboxes can be brought to real use, und the test template loca_deg will become obsolete. Thank you -- sarang♥사랑 14:47, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Proposal: Object location can be simply that stub

{{Location
 | mode       = {{{mode|object}}}
 | 1          = {{{1|}}}
 | 2          = {{{2|}}}
 | 3          = {{{3|}}}
 | 4          = {{{4|}}}
 | 5          = {{{5|}}}
 | 6          = {{{6|}}}
 | 7          = {{{7|}}}
 | 8          = {{{8|}}}
 | 9          = {{{9|}}}
 | attributes = {{{attributes|}}}
 | prec       = {{{prec|}}}
 | lang       = {{{lang|}}}
 | bare       = {{{bare|}}}
 | secondary  = {{{secondary|}}}
 | wikidata   = {{{Wikidata|{{{wikidata|}}} }}}
}}<noinclude>
{{Documentation|Template:Location/doc}}
</noinclude>

instead of containing own code (at the moment would work only with Location/sandbox). -- sarang♥사랑 11:25, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Another possibility if you don't like the additional pipe to make attributes the third parameter and letting the seond empty: When there are two parameters, a (rather simple) check enables the decision. When p2 exists and it is numeric, it is the second location parameter lon, otherwise it is unnamed attributes following the one-parameter string format. It allows to code attributes as p9, p3 and also p2 – the unnamed parameter can always be the last one. -- sarang♥사랑 15:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

Jarekt: as far as I understand everything is discussed – if you don't have objections I will transfer within the next days the well tested /sandbox, as it is now.

Because of the 12.5M transclusions, I will wait some days for the servers to calm down, and then change the Object location (another 3.2M transclusions), and then this template won't need further action to be able to accept all three input formats. Thank you for your competent aid! -- sarang♥사랑 11:30, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

sarang, sorry for the silence but I was quite busy lately and not spending much time on Wiki. I was experimenting with adding support for single input and 2 dms inputs directly to Module:Coordinates as much cleaner solution. Unfortunately I did not get it to work yet. As for your suggestion to simplify Object location, you might be right, It is done the current way in order to minimize number of indirect calls of calling a template that calls some other template that calls a module, etc. However extra complicating code that could be simplified might not be worth it. --Jarekt (talk) 04:09, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Jarekt: Of course will that be a better solution. To me, it is much too difficult, but if you want to try it I will wait and let you develop that solution. In the meantime I edited {{Location/sandbox}}, {{Object location/sandbox}} and {{Globe location/sandbox}}, all at the state of the art before coordinates-upgrade. -- sarang♥사랑 15:18, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - computer-aided tagging designs

I've published a design consultation for the computer-aided tagging tool. Please look over the page and participate on the talk page. If you haven't read over the project page, it might be helpful to do so first. The tool will hopefully be ready by the end of this month (October 2019), so timely feedback is important. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:09, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Julien Bryan

If Julien Bryan is shown in the photograph File:Julien_Bryan_-_Expres_Wieczorny_-_50900.jpg, then how can the author of this photograph be Julien Bryan? (This is how you described the photograph.) -- Hoary (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Hoary, I do not know how he did it, but he is credited as the photographer for this and other photographs with him in it. Self portraits and selfies is not a novel idea. Some photographers are good at using tripod and time delay. Others might ask passerby to click the button after setting up the camera and telling the operator when to click. See https://photography.tutsplus.com/articles/100-seriously-cool-self-portraits-and-tips-to-shoot-your-own--photo-5689 for examples. --Jarekt (talk) 03:20, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

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• You can now use more advanced editing tools on the mobile web. You can turn them on and off in your preferences in the mobile version. [154]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 October. It will be on all wikis from 17 October (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 16 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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• Internet Explorer 6 and 7 are no longer supported. This means the browsers might start looking a bit weird. They will not get security support. You can't read Wikimedia wikis in Internet Explorer on Windows XP or Windows versions that are older than Windows XP. This is because almost no one uses the browsers anymore. Supporting them made the wikis less secure for everyone else. [155]
• In the future section headings might have a share link. This is to make it easier to link to the section. You can read more and discuss.

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23:04, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Great work you did! Just a small request: at code line 816 you check whether parm2 exists; it should check whether parm2 is a numeric value – because in case of one single location string, parm2 can be an attribute. Thank you -- sarang♥사랑 08:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

sarang, I think I fixed the issue although had to do it differently as I also allow format with 2 parameters where both lat and lon are in the DMS format. --Jarekt (talk) 12:30, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I saw, it was a bit more complicated - but you did it well and now it is fine.

I tried too to simplify Globe location/sandbox but the parameter is not passed? -- sarang♥사랑 13:02, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

I would leave Globe location alone. Coordinates understands 3 possible configurations of unnamed parameters and Globe location would add 2 more. --Jarekt (talk) 14:41, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

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• The API sandbox and help pages now show more clearly when API modules are marked as internal. API modules marked as internal were probably internal before. It was easier to miss. You should look for non-internal alternatives. [156]

Problems

• There is a translation tool we use on wikis with more than one language. For a few days it did not create pages for new languages when someone translated a page. The languages did not show in the language bar. This has been fixed. [157]
• The history and diffs can show wrong content. This is because of a cache problem. It will soon be fixed. [158]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 October. It will be on all wikis from 24 October (calendar).
• Reference Previews will be a beta feature on all Wikipedias and some Wikivoyages. It shows you a preview of the footnote when you hover over or click on the number. It has been a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia since April.

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14:34, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

File:Jean Metzinger - Soldier at a Game of Chess - 1915.jpg

File:Jean Metzinger - Soldier at a Game of Chess - 1915.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Coldcreation (talk) 15:40, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

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• You can post proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals until 11 November. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
• Mobile users now have a specific design for their Watchlist. [159][160]
• You can share feedback and ideas on the Desktop Improvements project. The goal is to make the interface easier to use for readers and editors without removing any functionality. The Foundation's Readers Web team will work on this over the next two years.
• OOUI now allows using px (pixels) instead of em (em) for some specific cases. [161][162]

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 October. It will be on all wikis from 31 October (calendar).

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• There will be no software changes from 19 December to 2 January. The first MediaWiki version next year will come the week of 6 January. [163]
• Gadgets and user scripts can access variables about the current page in JavaScript. In 2015, this information was moved from global variables named wg* to mw.config. The old global variables will be removed later this year. You can know more about it and tell the developers if you want to try this out on your wiki first.

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16:15, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Can your bot do it?

Hi Jarekt, as far as I can see from the specifications of your bot, may be it can do the following:

• change {{m| against {{t| in a great lot of pages

Because French users are accustomed to transclude template:{{M}} (m for modèle) they invented that template also in commons; where we have the template:{{T}} (t for template). It seems useful to have a template for the namespace Module, and to use the letter "M". I startet to create that template:{{M}}; currently it checks whether really a module is meant, otherwise it redirects to {{T}} and categorizes the page to Category:Deprecated M. This category contains still a lot of pages, after I had changed many occurrencies of "m" against "t". Such tedious work is more for a bot than for an editor, so I ask you whether your bot can do it.
It is very difficult to find out what the bots can be used for! When you must deny, can you tell me which bot is better for my request? -- sarang♥사랑 09:58, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

My bot was approved a decade ago for "Help with Jarekt's editing tasks. No scheduled tasks.", so this fits with in. I never noticed {{T}} as I though the template for that was {{Tl}}. I checked on both and {{Tl}} is more widely used, so I will replace with that. In general I never liked single letter templates as I do not know any of them. I would prefer to just stop using {{M}} altogether as it seems like there will always be a confusion with {{Tl}}. --Jarekt (talk) 12:12, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

I thought that {{T}} would fit better because it appears like the previous display of {{M}}, while {{Tl}} has this teletype style, IMHO a bit disturbung within the text flow. But when you like it better I will not care, it's up to you. Since long we have some One-letter templates, mainly for namespace links, with heavily usage. -- sarang♥사랑 13:20, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

sarang, I see so there is a difference between {{Tl}} and {{T}}. Anyway I replaced all I could find. However I still do not like any use of {{M}}: if we need some template for modules than lets give it some longer name. In the mean time most of the current uses of {{M}} strike me as wrong linking to a module when they are meant to link to a template, for example Template:Van_Gogh_Museum/doc has a link to {{Artwork}} when it is supposed to link to {{Artwork}}. Almost all modules I created have names indicating templates they are replacing. So, this will always be ambiguous and I would prefer to just retire {{M}} altogether. --Jarekt (talk) 15:44, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, now the deprated "M" is replaced by the more correct "Tl". Currently there is a proposal that soon we will get the possibility to write [[MOD: ...]] instead of doing it with a template, so {{M}} will become obsolete. Sorry about the difficulties with e.g. {{Artwork}}, I can check it whether there are still wrong links. -- sarang♥사랑 09:32, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Normally template names are linked with one of the {{T}} templates, just some users, in special from French origin, used {{M}}. With ever and ever copying a few "M" usages are multiplied; most of these are now corrected by your bot. The mentioning of {{Artwork}} in many /doc pages comes too from such a copying. AFAIK corrections with VFC are only possible at file descriptions? I can collect errors like that in maintenance categories, but cannot treat them with my possibilities, so I asked for a bot. The wrong links to Artwork in 250 documentations are now collected in Category:Commons Maint Artwork; a number of 250 I can do by hand, if it will be much work for you to prepare your bot. -- sarang♥사랑 10:19, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

I replaced those. --Jarekt (talk) 01:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Now there are anly a few translusions and links, which seem all correct for "module" -- sarang♥사랑 10:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• At Special:Contributions you could see up to 5000 edits at the same time if you edited the URL. This has been lowered to 500. This is to stop requests which break the sites. [164]

Changes later this week

• MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry can set the default length to block a user for your wiki. You will be able to use MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip to set a different default block length for IP editors. [165]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 November. It will be on all wikis from 7 November (calendar).

Meetings

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• MediaWiki2LaTeX can put different pages from a Wikimedia wiki into a PDF. It can now make a PDF with around 5000 pages. Previously this was 800 pages.

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• Wikimedia will take part in Google Code-in. This is for young students who want to help with open source software. You can read more. Experienced technical Wikimedians can mentor students.

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22:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Template:Information changes ?

First let me thank you for all your hard work .. ! I noticed, you changed the Information template. as of today there seem to be some problems rendering some other templates when included in the Information template: For example the {{Waarneming.nl}} and {{Waarneming.nlUser}} templates used in (for example) : File:Limnia unguicornis (Sciomyzidae) - (imago), Elst (Gld), the Netherlands - 3.jpg I'm not sure your changes are the cause of the problems but it seems to have started after de template update.. Could you please look into that ? Thanks Bj.schoenmakers (talk) 22:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Bj.schoenmakers, It does look like we are discovering a lot of templates with Wikitables Which for some reason occasionally do not render correctly. I am trying to see what templates are affected and if I can figure out the workaround to render them properly. Thanks for heads up. --Jarekt (talk) 23:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Polish

Hi Jarek, what do you think? 1, 2. Will this suffice for CC-BY S.A -4.0? Not to mention that the second pic is from the Senate, not Sejm. Thanks. Boston9 (talk) 20:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Boston9, I nominated File:LB1 1041.view.jpg for deletion. I can do the same with File:L1eUwmOfZlOY5YVUlA.jpg if it does not fall under {{Polish Senate partnership}} rules. --Jarekt (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

It does not. Our partership with the Senate was based on OTRS and was suspended on January 1st, 2016. Thank you Boston9 (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Computer-aided tagging tool testing is now available for you

You've been added to an internal whitelist (not available on-wiki) to test the tool over the next week. Commons:Structured_data/Computer-aided_tagging/Testing contains the information you'll need to try it out and leave feedback. Thanks for signing up to test the computer-aided tagging prototype, the team looks forward to hearing about it. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:01, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

LUA for structured data works

See Module talk:Sandbox/Mmullie (WMF)/my module. Now we can start doing cool things. If only I would be better at LUA ;-) Maybe a easy first step to update the artwork template? Multichill (talk) 08:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Multichill, The Artwork template should be mostly getting info from the Wikidata. Information template would be a better target. Years ago I developed Module:Information and tested it quite a bit. The idea was to roll it up before SDC rolls up. But I got a lot of opposition from SDC team back then and I moved on to other things. If we roll it put I could write it in such a way that it can get data either from wikitext or from SDC. Other likely target would be to start moving camera and object coordinates to SDC and then rewrite {{Location}} template to read it from there. --Jarekt (talk) 02:54, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

That's why I suggested the Artwork template. Take for example File:Caspar Netscher - De messenslijper - 67 - Sabauda Gallery.jpg. Here I still have to add the Q id in the wikitext. The structured data contains the digital representation of (P6243) -> The Knife Grinder (Q66437264). If you use that, I only have the source line left to drop.

Does your information prototype handle data formatted like this? I'm considering focusing on Wiki Loves Monuments images for the structured data conversion because the data is quite clean, we know what it depicts, etc. Yes, location data is interesting. Still need to propose a new property to handle the viewing angle (0-360 degrees). Multichill (talk) 09:55, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Ok I can add support for SDC digital representation of (P6243) to artwork. As for Module:Information, File:Chiesa_di_Santa_Maria_dello_Spasimo_foto_19.jpg uses it now. As for coordinates we will need probably new properties for "Camera location", and use coordinate location (P625) for "object location", and we will need the camera heading property. On commons we allow string like NNW or number (0-360), but it might be better to convert it all to numbers. --Jarekt (talk) 12:26, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the Artwork.

When I remove the author from the wikitext on File:Chiesa_di_Santa_Maria_dello_Spasimo_foto_19.jpg, I just get no author. Are you sure you support this way of modeling authorship?

For the location part, you probably want to join Commons:Structured data/Modeling/Location. My focus is currently with the basic properties and probably try to start the location discussion a bit later. Multichill (talk) 14:28, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Multichill, At the moment Module:Information does not interact with Wikidata or SDC, as it was written some years ago. I think the first step is to release "simple" Module:Information first so we can debug all the issues unrelated to SDC first, and once the code is stable it should be expanded to SDC support. I guess I should propose the change of the {{Information}} on Commons:Village pump/Proposals. --Jarekt (talk) 14:57, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

{{Artwork}} should probably use depicts (P180), not digital representation of (P6243) (context: d:Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion#Property:P6243) ... but it would be good to no longer need the "wikidata=" parameter, and to use the SDC info instead! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:07, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Mike The problem with depicts (P180) is that there can be great many of them for a single image. Also in case of a portrait, the depicts (P180) should indicate the item for the depicted person, not for the item for the painting. --Jarekt (talk) 02:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

So just look through the depicts (P180) values until you find one that matches an artwork? The depicted person should be the P180 value on Wikidata, not here, if there is a corresponding Wikidata item for the artwork ('depicts of depicts') - otherwise you end up with massive, unnecessary data duplication. I'll see if I can put something togther here... Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 06:45, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Try {{Structured Data}} - that will auto-include artwork if instance of (P31)=painting (Q3305213), or show something more generic otherwise. It's easy enough to add other QIDs to check. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Multichill and Mike Peel: , I added support for SDC digital representation of (P6243) to artwork, we should be able to eliminate the need to wikidata parameter in the template. --Jarekt (talk) 15:21, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Excellent! Tested it on this file and seems to work just fine. I'll update my bot to no longer include the wikidata field in the wikitext. Next up is sorting out how to source so I can remove the last wikitext field. Multichill (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Strange, I had to add this change, otherwise Category:Pages with script errors was swamped with files with "MID" ID, which were OK after "touch" operation, just to be replaced with other files. --Jarekt (talk) 16:27, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

That sure is weird. Maybe you can add a tracking categories for files that have the wikidata field, but not the structured data or when it's different? Makes it easier to import the missing structured data.

I updated my upload bot to no longer include the Wikidata field in the wikitext. Multichill (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

I will add the relevant categories for detecting missing and conflicting wikidata fields, I can also add one for redundant ones. I wonder how structured data linking to Wikidata deals with merged items. Do they update automatically? I guess I need to check. --Jarekt (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Maybe wait a bit with the redundant one. On Wikidata we have a bot that resolves redirects after a while. We probably need something like that here too at some point in the future. Multichill (talk) 19:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

See Category:Artworks with mismatching structured data P6243 property and Category:Artworks with structured data missing P6243 property. Can you handle the "missing" category. I will work of checking "mismatching" category. --Jarekt (talk) 15:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Great. My bot is still working on Category:Artworks with structured data missing P6243 property. Will check back later to see what is left. Multichill (talk) 17:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:Artworks with structured data missing P6243 property will be filling in for a while, I assume that it will not be done for a week or so. --Jarekt (talk) 19:21, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

It appears that a structured data edit doesn't trigger a complete update of the categories. I'm doing some null edits to force files out of it. Multichill (talk) 21:15, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that is a big shortcomming of using categories for this purpose. I am using AWB to run touch tasks on categories and I am running it a lot. I also noticed that merge on Wikidata does not trigger wikidata item update here, see this example. That is a problem. --Jarekt (talk) 21:41, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Adding source to Artwork template

I'll start a new topic for this. The last remaining wikitext field in {{Artwork}} is the source field. Maybe you can update the module to look for source of file (P7482) set to file available on the internet (Q74228490) with qualifier described at URL (P973) and show that in the source field? I expect to run into some encoding problems with url's. Let's see how that works out. Multichill (talk) 16:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Example edit for source. It's not on an artwork, but you get the idea. Multichill (talk) 21:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

I will look into it. --Jarekt (talk) 19:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Arvid Frederick Nyholm - John Ericsson - NPG.66.54 - National Portrait Gallery.jpg is a good example. Multichill (talk) 16:00, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

File:Godefridus Schalcken - Venus aan haar toilet in gezelschap van Amor - GK 306 - Museumslandschaft Hessen Kassel.jpg is better because it got the operator part. Multichill (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Other versions in Template:Artwork based on Wikidata

Hi Jarek, File:Leonardo da Vinci (Kopie nach) - Mona Lisa - 1340 - Bavarian State Painting Collections.jpg is connected to Mona Lisa (Alte Pinakothek) (Q29946540) and that item has based on (P144) -> Mona Lisa (Q12418) which has image (P18) -> File:Mona Lisa, by Leonardo da Vinci, from C2RMF retouched.jpg. Wouldn't it be nice to use this to fill the "other versions" in {{Artwork}}? Multichill (talk) 13:17, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

yes that makes sense. --Jarekt (talk) 13:56, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

Table problem?

Hi Jarek, some days ago we talked about the boxes realized with wikitable, which made problems. AFAIK there are at least three possibilities to display such a box. Old fashioned is the wikitable method – among many others the {{Created with}} (transcluded > 1Mio, often multiple times in one file description) uses it. After the troubles with the {{AutVec}} I converted it from wikitable to the <div>/<span> method, and it works fine. Others, e.g. {{Mbox}} use the <table> method.
I do not know which will be the best method; but I suppose that <span> cannot be bad? Do you think that I should convert the {{Created with}} – or not touch it, because it works since many years? Of the very similar {{Taken with}} (wikitable) I made a sandbox version with the <span> method. But I cannot estimate whether that will be preferable. -- sarang♥사랑 17:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

sarang, Not long after the issue was discovered, someone come up with the solution (add \n before and after each field) and that was quickly deployed. That solution had some unpleasant side-effects (extra space around fields and some downstream tools not working right), so we figure out the fixes to those. I will try to deploy it this weekend. So I would not worry about template conversion, as it is no longer necessary. --Jarekt (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

I understood the problem – the “{|” for wikitables needs to start at a new line; and I saw the solution and the suggestion by Tacsipacsi. My questions are:

• will it be useful, or worth the effort, to converse existent boxes? I understand that your answer is "no".
• when new boxes are needed, how should I write them - which method will be the best one?

Ok, I will wait what you are working out for that theme. Thank you -- sarang♥사랑 07:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

The new templates with tables, I would write using html tables. That is how all infobox templates were written. --Jarekt (talk) 04:10, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I will do it when new boxes are needed -- sarang♥사랑 10:06, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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Problems

• You will be able to read but not to edit some wikis for up to 30 minutes on 26 November at 06:00 (UTC). You can see which wikis. It will probably last much shorter than 30 minutes. This will also affect the centralauth database. This could for example affect changing passwords, logging in to new wikis, changing emails or global renames. [166]

Changes later this week

• You can soon vote on proposals for the Community Wishlist Survey. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can vote on proposals from 20 November to 2 December. This year the wishlist will focus on Wikibooks, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wikiversity, Wikispecies, Wikivoyage and Wikinews. You can read more about the format for this year.
• There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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20:17, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!

Hello,

Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at Wikimedia Commons.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in!

From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.

If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you!

--User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 22:04, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Duplicate category

Hello, I write you this message to inform about the latest edit by the account JarektBot, that is adding categories that is already set for the files (example). Its not a big deal, just clean up when you have time. - Premeditated (talk) 07:57, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

• The mobile beta mode will be disabled to have less maintenance. The developers will focus on the desktop improvements project. You can turn on advanced mobile contributions mode if you want to see the categories. You could also jump back to the top. This can instead be done with a gadget or user script. [167]
• Parsoid is software we use for the visual editor, content translation, Flow and the Android app. This has been rewritten. It will come to the wikis gradually over the next two weeks. It has been tested, but there could be some diffs or previews that don't look right. If you see any you can report them. [168]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 November. It will be on the other wikis next week (calendar). This is because of holidays.

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 November at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You will switch between the article and the talk page in a new way in the mobile view in the future. It will use tabs. This is more like in the desktop view. [169]

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16:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• Mix'n'match is a tool to connect Wikidata items to information in other databases. It can be used to find subjects that are missing in a Wikipedia. It now has more than 3000 datasets. Before it was closer to 2000.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 December. It will be on all wikis from 5 December (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• There will be a new schema for XML dumps. Scripts and apps that use them will need to be updated. If they are not updated they will no longer work. [170]
• The {{REVISIONID}} magic word will no longer work in the content namespaces. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it returns "" (empty string). When you read a page it returns "-" (dash). In the future this will also affect other namespaces. The next ones are file and category namespaces. [171]

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16:58, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• Wikimedia projects use Translatewiki to translate the wiki interface. You can now use WatchTranslations to watch projects there. You would get an email if there are missing translations to your language. [172]
• There is a new dataset you can use. It shows the number of editors per country per month for a number of countries. You can read the documentation and download the dataset.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 December. It will be on all wikis from 12 December (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• You can test a new reference tool. It makes it possible to reference different parts of a source without repeating all information. You can test it on the beta cluster. You can see an example article. [173]

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16:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Lua error in Module:Wikidata_label at line 24: attempt to call method 'getSitelink' (a nil value).

Hi Jarek, I'm getting it at File:John Theodore Heins - Portrait of George Frideric Handel (c.1740).jpg. Any idea what is causing this? Multichill (talk) 18:22, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

See Module_talk:Wikidata_label#Lua_error_in_Module:Wikidata_label_at_line_24:_attempt_to_call_method_'getSitelink'_(a_nil_value). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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Problems

• The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. It did not show new changes last week. This was because of an API problem. It is now working again. [174]
• Special:Watchlist can show the wrong information again. It does not always show which edits are read and which are unread. This is because of a database problem. The developers are working on solving the problem. [175]

Changes later this week

• You can get email notifications. You can get them immediately, a summary every day or a summary once every week. If you choose a summary you can soon choose not to get notifications you have already marked as read on the wiki. [176]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 December. It will be on all wikis from 19 December (calendar).

Meetings

• You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

• The partial blocks feature is now stable. It will come to most wikis on 6 January. Your wiki can ask to wait. Contact NKohli (WMF) if you don't want it now. [177]

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00:16, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News

• Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 6 January 2020.

Recent changes

• All mobile site users now have new features. Features include: tabs for page/discussion; an expanded user-menu; direct access to history pages. These features were initially part of the "advanced mode".

Changes later this week

• There is no new MediaWiki version this week or next week.

Future changes

• You can use setlang in the URL to change the user interface language. This will no longer happen automatically. When you open the link you will be asked to confirm the language change. This will not happen if Javascript is not working in your browser. [178]

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20:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

File:Hay-a-Park SSSI (23).JPG

Hi Jarekt. There has recently been a bit of a muddle about a deletion request regarding the above file. Please would you kindly take a look at the file and discussion and check whether the discussion can be closed now? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Storye book It looks like someone beat me to it. --Jarekt (talk) 02:52, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. I had thought that it needed an admin to close down the discussion template - but I guess you are saying that removing the delete template from the image page was all that was required? Thanks for looking at it, anyway. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 09:03, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Storye book actually I did not look close enough. The proper order of operations should have been: admin closes the discussion (I did it now) and than a script cleans up everything (that you did). I think it is ok now. --Jarekt (talk) 22:06, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I thought. Thank you for clearing it up. Compliments of the season! Storye book (talk) 22:09, 24 December 2019 (UTC)