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File:Lastdaysofthearctic.jpeg[edit]

{{Autotranslate|1=File:Lastdaysofthearctic.jpeg|base=Image permission}} mabdul 16:41, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

When I uploaded the file, I stated as clearly (and moreover in as conventional a form as possible) that it was a derivative of a file already in Commons. I linked to that file. Here it is. It says: The permission for use of this work has been verified and archived in the Wikimedia OTRS system. It is available as ticket #2010120110006807 for users with an OTRS account. So what more should I have done? -- Hoary (talk) 00:51, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I don't know if you checked the history of the image. I removed immediately the permission tag after I recognized that it was only a derivate and that has an OTRS ticket. Sadly that I missed to remove the notice on that page. My fault. mabdul 14:37, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank you for coming back here and reassuring me that all's well after all. (Incidentally, I've "nowiki'd out" your first message above, so that it doesn't add anything to any category.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:02, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rolls Royce Corniche.JPG[edit]

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Alexf (talk) 17:21, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File:Fosco Maraini & Famiglia.jpg[edit]

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Túrelio (talk) 07:32, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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-- Ies (talk) 07:48, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A note for anyone who comes along later and wonders: I was right all along. -- Hoary (talk) 23:12, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's me. I'm untrustworthy,[edit]

It's not that I or anyone else here doesn't trust you -- after all, one of our prime directives is to "assume good faith". It is that the license review process creates a legal record, admissible in court, that an independent third party (it's often a bot for Flickr images) has verified that the image was licensed in a particular way at a particular time. Since people running web sites and those posting to Flickr do change licenses from time to time it is essential that we be able to prove that the image had a particular license at a particular time. The uploader, who has a vested interest in keeping the image, cannot be as convincing a witness as a third party, so every upload from an a Web site with a free license, even uploads made by Admins, should be license reviewed by a third party. I don't do many uploads other than my own images (and those from the US Coast Guard), but all of those I have done have been reviewed by another Admin, just as yours will be. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're right. But the need for (or strong desirability of) this template should be pointed out (or should be pointed out more conspicuously) during the uploading process. (For that matter, its addition might as well be automated.) I don't much mind having a file I uploaded deleted, as I have a thick skin (thanks not least to years of editing Wikipedia) and am pretty sure I can get it resuscitated (thanks to ditto); but if I were new to this I think I'd be likely to become a lot less enthusiastic about uploading. -- Hoary (talk) 13:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're also right, but please understand that in some respects Commons is hanging on by the skin of its teeth -- we get more than 10,000 new images every day. We delete more than 1,500, but only about 25 Admins actually do 90% of the work. There's often a month's backlog both in DRs here and at OTRS. There are many things that should be done here -- being friendlier to newbies is certainly a priority. I, and most of my colleagues, try to do that one-on-one when the case arises -- as here -- but fail generally. I wish the whole DR process were revamped, so that instead of seeing a "DELETION REQUEST", a newbie might see a "Request for Status Review" or something less threatening -- and so forth. BTW, I know you're a 50,000 edit Admin on WP:EN, but you're still pretty new here. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 14:01, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, all true. ¶ Well, I'm not new here, but my experience is thin. I suppose I should get a lot more experience here. ¶ Certainly, hanging around here is educational: as an example, I'd no idea of "freedom of panorama" before I read about it here. Or rather, I'd assumed that a freedom of panorama was analogous to a freedom of breakfast or a freedom of toenail-clipping -- a freedom that's so fundamental that it hardly needs stating, except imaginably as regards a handful of nations widely acknowledged as stuck in the dark ages. But France? Jeez. ¶ Well, good luck with copyvio-zapping. I've encountered some myself. It's quite stunning how obtuse (and persistent) some people can be. ("I found it on the internet and the internet is public, so it's in the public domain, innit? Look, don't waste my time with mere semantics." Etc.) -- Hoary (talk) 09:18, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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46.61.152.186 15:03, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Carl_Randall[edit]

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Tokorokoko (talk) 01:26, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the notification; I've commented there. -- Hoary (talk) 05:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Polish Army[edit]

Answer:Description about the author was provided by the Museum. I believe it's true. There are two possibilities, if it's true. --Tom5551 (talk) 01:01, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You're somewhat cryptic, Tom5551. (Or perhaps I'm just sleepy.) If it is indeed true that the "author" of File:Polish Army Warsaw 1939.jpg was Julien Bryan, then what are the two possibilities that you have in mind? -- Hoary (talk) 02:14, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help with images marked for deletion[edit]

Hello, I am the editor of the Mio Pang Fei page and the son-in-law of the painter, helping the family build the wikipage of my late father-in-law. So, the photos belong to the family,taken by us from the original paintings, or are family photos. How is it possible to make the photos acceptable for the wikipedia? WikiEditorStar (talk) 03:36, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied on your talk page. -- Hoary (talk) 06:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Severe crop of a master photojournalist's work[edit]

Hi Hoary, I first saw this on EN-wiki (where I know you are an admin focused on photography). See most recent edit history here: [1].

I've now nominated the crop for deletion, here [2]. I thought you may want to weigh in. (If not, that's fine too.)

Softlavender (talk) 00:53, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

File:We meet again.jpg[edit]

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Muzilon (talk) 02:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please fix up this new file[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Taylor_(music_writer)#/media/File:Edward_Taylor_(1784-1863).jpg I recently uploaded it and you fixed it. - but it will be deleted unless we do something and I don't know how to do it. Thanks 175.38.42.62 00:41, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The first version needs deletion, which neither you nor I can do. The image in general (with no version specified) needs removal of a mistaken copyleft template and application of one or more appropriate public domain templates. You don't know which? Offhand, I don't know either. Please find out and do this yourself. -- Hoary (talk) 00:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help with a file please[edit]

You have been helpful in the past. This file:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:3rd_row,_4th_from_right_-_Alan_Cecil_Lupton_1891_Eton.jpg

should be OK.

I cannot work out why it might be deleted it is from the archives of Eton College and was clearly taken in 1891.

Here is the page (the best one) I got it from: https://catalogue.etoncollege.com/object-pa-dx-2-20-2016

Please fix if you can and thanks 120.21.130.181 06:25, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was a risk of deletion because the information provided for it made no sense.

User:Srbernadette applied a template that said "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license."

Srbernadette also applied another template that said that the date was 1 December 1891 and that the author was unknown.

I have no idea how the combination of

date (of photography, of print, of publication?) of 1891
unknown "author" (photographer)
copyright according to a licence published no earlier than 2002

could be possible.

I suspect that Srbernadette had no idea either. It's almost as if Srbernadette -- who, note, isn't a newcomer to Commons -- just wanted the picture to be available with any old justification for its inclusion, assuming that others would clear up the mess.

Marchjuly noted that the licence was wrong. Yann made the correction.

I trust that this is understandable. -- Hoary (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I tagged the file with {{Wrong license}} because I couldn't think of any possible way that the CC-by-sa-4.0 license it was uploaded under might be valid. It seems as if (as pointed out above by Hoary) that the uploader just picked a license that they thought might be OK and hoped for the best. That happens a lot on Commons and in many cases it's something that can be fixed. However, my suggestion to the uploader would be to not simply keep doing this over and over again; instead, they should seek assistance at COM:VPC before uploading a file if they're unsure about a work's copyright status and how it should be licensed. It's better to seek assistance than to guess and hope for the best. FWIW, the uploader (in my opinion) shouldn't really be uploading any content under a Creative Commons license unless they are the original copyright holder of the content, or the copyright holder of the content has clearly released the file under such a license. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:37, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I warmly agree with Marchjuly, except for one point. Rather than seeking assistance at COM:VPC, or anyway before doing so, ask for advice at COM:VPC, implement the advice, and when the next problem comes up, reconsider the advice and, so far as it is relevant, implement it again. Because otherwise, "seeking assistance" at COM:VPC will become a second outlet of the "I cannot do this" saga that we see in WP:HD. -- Hoary (talk) 00:54, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A file that needs help please[edit]

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J.A._Middleton_at_Winchester_1914.jpg

I have done my best - but there seems to be problems - please fix if able. (The Category at the end should be "Private Schools in England", I think...) Thanks so much175.38.42.62 10:28, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same story. Srbernadette applied the wrong licence. Marchjuly pointed this out. Yann corrected the matter. -- Hoary (talk) 23:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

File:Liu Shuishi accepting Silver Award in Painting.jpg[edit]

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