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TUSC token 70dfd90b6e52c9080a8e30c0dd592336[edit]

I am now proud owner of a TUSC account! 70dfd90b6e52c9080a8e30c0dd592336 Geo Swan (talk) 01:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong source attribution[edit]

You have tagged your recent uploads with Toronto Public Library (Template:TPL) when they are all obviously from the City of Toronto Archives and you should have used Template:COTA-image. Secondarywaltz (talk) 19:25, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'll check that. Geo Swan (talk) 21:43, 6 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 08:10, 12 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Sealle (talk) 17:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A double standard[edit]

You objected when I abstracted your reflection from one of your photos, but you seem to think it's acceptable to upload personal full face pictures of Jason Paris. There is not really any context to those images that is not covered by his others. Have you advised him about this? Secondarywaltz (talk) 16:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Since you raised this, I will advise him -- once I figure out which image(s) you are talking about.

No, I don't think uploading someone's full face self-portrait is a double standard, when I didn't want my (tiny) reflection cropped, and posted. Mr Paris seems to be an experienced uploader, who understands that a CC license release the image for re-use -- who made the conscious decision he was okay with that. I think his flickstream has multiple images of him. The (tiny) image you found of me, on the other hand, was so tiny I overlooked it, when I uploaded the image you cropped it from. Its appearance here was not due to me making a decision I was okay with it being published, it was due to my overlooking it when I published the much larger image.

I never meant to imply that you did anything wrong with cropping the image, and publishing it, naming me. If I didn't have a safety concern I probably would have found it flattering. I've received online threats, so, I think I was taking a sensible precaution.

Note: I acknowledge the license I applied to the image was unrevocable. When I asked for the image it was cropped from to be deleted, I should have done so calling upon the tradition that properly licensed images do get deleted, when the uploader or subject of an image offers a coherent reason for why they are requesting its deletion as a courtesy. It's been a couple of years now. I don't remember. Rather than go look it up, if you think I fell short of that acknowledgement, and you feel I should apologize for that, may I offer you that specific apology.

But, no, I honestly don't think this is an instance of a double standard.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 22:41, 15 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Beaver Island Harbor Light[edit]

I have reverted your changing this to a redirect. There are two lights on Beaver Island, at opposite ends of the island, about 11 miles apart. I don't see any reason why they should be in the same category.

I also removed your addition of Category:Lighthouses in Michigan from Category:Beaver Island Head Lighthouse as overcat -- two of the existing categories are children or grand-children of Category:Lighthouses in Michigan. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 15:30, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ferry Bouquet on the Great Lakes.jpg[edit]

You uploaded a picture of a ship with this name and then uploaded a new image - of a ship with a different name. I suspect this was a simple misnaming. Is there an easy way to untangle these? Rmhermen (talk) 04:16, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Done thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 04:25, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category move request[edit]

Hi Geo, I've removed your requested move template as with the greatest of respect no one's going to move over 5100+ images especially when it's a user category,
Your best bet is to install Help:Gadget-Cat-a-lot and basically move the category and images yourself, (Had there been something like 500 images I wouldn't have an issue but 51000 is a lot and I'm assuming the admins agree as admins who have been moving cats haven't touched this either),
Thanks and Happy editing/uploading, –Davey2010^Talk 18:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Davey2010 Clarification please.

Computers are stupid, and there are a limited number of tasks they can do, without supervision. But moving files from one category to another falls among the limited number of tasks they can do, without supervision. It is precisely because there were a large number of files that I requested robot assistance.

I have been using catalot for years. Recently I started using flick2commons. It allows one to specify a category that applies to a batch of uploads, prior to the upload. But neither catalot, or any equivalent, is available, when using it. So, when one uses it, and you specify a slightly wrong spelling of a real category, or a redirect to a real category, that batch ends up in a non-existent directory, or a redirect that should be empty.

Us human should do what we are good at. Our robot slaves should assist us in the ways that help us. This is an instance where a robot slave could take care of a very onerous, robot task. Do you know how long it takes for a human to move 5,000 images? If you can move 3 per minute, you can move something like 200 per hour. 24 person hours.

Us humans are creative. We have judgment. A robot given too little supervision can really screw things up. A competent human, who knows what they are doing, should notice, pretty early, when they made a mistake.

I've uploaded thousands and thousands of images, and used hundreds of categories -- far too many for me to have remembered the exact spelling of every single one. Sadly, many category names are deeply counter-intuitive. So easing me of the burden of remembering trivial details, like the exact spelling of category names, seems to me to be an appropriate use of robot slaves. On my previous computer I had installed the clippings add-on, which remembered details like this, for me. But the browser on my new computer doesn't support it. So, I am reduced to guessing, or taking a long detour to double-check, The name of the category for my own images. Category:Photos by Geo Swan is the most obvious name, the most memorable, the most likely to free me of this particular cognitive burden.

You haven't offered a policy based reason, or technically based reason, why you declined my request. All you seem to be saying is that you don't think other administrators would help. If that is all you meant, are you really sure that is a good reason? Geo Swan (talk) 19:34, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I re-read your note. You seemed to be denigrating the importance of this request because is was a User category request. I google myself, occasionally. I do so because I have stalkers, not because I am vain. But I see that outsiders, third parties, do download and re-use my images, as per some examples I'll list. I don't maintain Category:Photographs by Geo Swan out of vanity. I do so because third parties who found one of my images useful may find others useful. I really hope you weren't trying to say that my request wasn't worth complying with, because it was only a User category request.

Infuture if you want a bot to move them you'd need to visit User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands/Category moves (I've set it up so you won't have to do anything this time), The template you used as far as I know is for anyone except bots, No that's not what I'm saying at all and I shouldn't of said it as actually regardless of what the category is no one would ever move a category that contained over 5100+, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:48, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because third parties download and use images I took and uploaded, then a category grouping and listing images I took is useful in the same way free images taken by professional photographers are important. Geo Swan (talk) 20:38, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category moves[edit]

Hi Geo, Bit random but actually came to say thanks for providing a well thought out reason on the category move request[1] - It's nice to see a request that has been well thought out, well researched and well explained instead of a half arsed which is the norm here, I liked it so much I've even included it in the move-reason box[2] which I've never done for anyone so there's a first for everything :),
Keep up the great work and keep up with the detailed reasons :), Happy editing, –Davey2010^Talk 03:21, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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url shorteners[edit]

Using url shorteners will fail on most occasions. They are spam targets and many are blacklisted. Always best to utilise a full url. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:33, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah? I don't knowingly use them. If you think you came across a specific instance where I did, then you found one that slipped past me. Geo Swan (talk) 14:39, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your Flickr images[edit]

Just an FYI... I noticed, while looking at duplicates, that you have lots of uploads that are 'your own works', copied over 'by you' from Flickr, that you have an OTRS ticket confirming that you have released them to the PD, and that a lot of those images 'still' have the CC-BY-SA license and 'flickr review'. Since that's rather silly, I've running down the list of your uploads with 'flickreview' and no 'permissionOTRS', and changing them to {{PD-Self}}{{PermissionOTRS|id=2012092210003274|user=Revent}}. Hope that's fine. I'm leaving out the CC license, because it would end up being confusing, and, well, it's completely redundant to a PD work. Revent^talk 15:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Speravir 04:43, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In my reply at the discussion I did not say I thought that nominator Speravir's nomination unnecessarily wasted the time of everybody involved -- his, mine, and everyone who read the discussion. Geo Swan (talk) 10:45, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pixabay ID[edit]

The template {{Pixabay}} needs the file ID as required parameter, please read the template doc. But also without reading you should have noticed the remark inside the license tag, that is seen now for your latest uploads. — Speravir – 18:12, 13 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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