Witaj. Sorry, ze po polsku - rzecz dotyczy jednak naszego "polskiego podworka" wiec tak bedzie szybciej. Od ok. polowy 2009 rozpoczalem kategoryzowac koscioly w Polsce wg powiatow z pod roznych "dynamicznych" IP. Poczatkowo istnial jeden wariant typu "Category:Churches in Wejherowo county" wystepowal obok niego wariant pisania county z duzej litery "Category:Churches in Limanowa County" - sam nie wiem ktory byl/jest poprawny. Jednak i tu dotarlo to nasze "slynne piekielko" mejd in "chaos totalny" i "burdel na kulkach". Obecnie mamy juz nstepujace warianty: "[[:Category:Churches in starogardzki powiat", "Category:Churches in Sztumski powiat", "Category:Churches in powiat wejherowski", "Category:Churches in Powiat Ciechanów", "Category:Churches in Wieliczka powiat". Zauwaz prosze na roznorodnosc zapisu kazdej z kategorii - roznice w szyku i ortografii. Wlozylem w to bardzo duzo czasu a teraz kazdy wg wlasnego "widzi misie" gotuje zupke wg wlasnego przepisu. Czy Moglbys jako admin na commons wplynac na to zeby "polskojezyczni-userzy" wypracowali jakas obowiazujaca formule i zeby wszystko ponownie mialo rece i nogi a przede wszystkim jednolity wyglad? W sumie to nie rozumie co ludzie maja przeciw zwrotowi "county" w swiecie angielskojezycznym przeciez jest doskonale rozpoznawalny jako drugorzedna jednostka administracji. Tysiace moich edycji wykonalem z przeroznych IP w przerwach na ostrych dyzurach i z tego tez wzgledu chce zostac anonimowy - ale doprawdy rece i nogi opadaja gdy widze ze i tu dociera "nasz hurra-animusz" - prosze Cie zrob cos z tym - na prawde szkoda mi tego co tu zrobilem. O ewentualna odpowiedz prosze tu. Wszystkiego dobrego w Nowym Roku. 77.187.10.4812:36, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Faktycznie wyrzuciłem przed chwilą kilka. Myślałem że są przez omyłkę, gdyż nie widziałem ich wcześniej. Teraz, masowo, układam "Priests from Poland". "Clergy of Poland" już poukładałem. Próbuje katolików włożyć w standardową nazwę "Category:Roman Catholic priests from Poland". Jest tego bardzo dużo. Co do powiatów to się zatrzymałem gdyż Yarl obiecał że zrobi to szybciej botem. Pozdrawiam. --WlaKom (talk) 16:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Witaj. Ta pozycja jest w kategorii "Books by Juliusz Słowacki" która w całości jest juz zawarta w kategorii "Polish Wikisouce books", z tego powodu trzymając się drzewa kategoryzowania, pozycję zamieściłem w kategorii zawierającej dzieła Słowackiego. Tak samo w przypadku Marii Konopnickiej, kategoria "Books by Maria Konopnicka" jest w całości zawarta w kategorii "Polish Wikisource books".
Tommy Jantarek (talk) 20:00, 10 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Przepraszam, nie zauwazylem. Tradycyjnie individualne ksiazki nalezaly do Category:Polish Wikisouce books, wtedy jesli ktos doda ksiazke która nie jest czescia projektu Wikisouce to nie trzeba zmieniac wszystkich kategorii. Ale o ile te ksiazki sa wciaz w podkategoriach Wikisouce to nie mam z tym problemu. Dziekuje za wyjasnienie. Pozdrowienia. --Jarekt (talk) 01:58, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ależ nie ma za co przepraszać :). Już poprawiłem. Pododawałem kategorie "Books by..." żeby trochę kategorię "Polish Wikisource books" uczynić bardziej przejrzystą, gdzie robiła sie juz mieszanka najprzeróżniejszych książek bez ładu i skladu. Treaz jest troszeczkę przejrzyściej a i nasi autorzy są bardziej rozreklamowani, bo dotad nie byli zawarci w ogóle w kategorii "Books by author". Pozdrawiam. Tommy Jantarek (talk) 06:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There are many hundreds of artists we have categories for, but no creator pages. I am thinking about a way of creating many of those in more automatic fashion. --Jarekt (talk) 02:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Over at Wikisource, Phe has lookup feature that helps to prefill our author template. en:s:User:Phe/Author fill.js. It may be useful as part of the task. If it was operational, even as a local plugin, I would utilise it as part of my crawling. So not automated, but a field fill would be helpful. — billinghurstsDrewth11:06, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above edit seems to have broken the template – especially the unclosed bracket at the end of the {{#if:}} function. I didn't know how you'd like to fix it (there should be a warning or an empty space if the argument is not filled, see #if), so I decided to remove it. Feel free to add it back. Best, odder (talk) 00:41, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No właśnie widzę, że nie wszystkie, bo wcześniej podpisywałem się tylko nickiem. Pododawałem do kilku, zanim odkryłem, że jest tego więcej: [1] na dole i kolejne strony. Myślę, że najprościej zaznaczyć wszystko, co ja załadowałem, a ja już popoprawiam odstępstwa. ToSter (talk) 20:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
With regard to the text editor bug (Village pump)[edit]
Hi Jarekt! Some time ago, you posted at the Village pump about an error with the text editor box on Commons. There was a bug raised about this issue, and it appears that a recent upgrade to Wikimedia's software has resolved the problem. If possible, could you please check to see whether you are still experiencing this issue, and make comment at this link - you will need to register an account on the Bugzilla to do this. If you don't want to register an account there, you are welcome to comment here and I will transfer your comments over to the Bugzilla so that the assigned person and others may see them. Thank you for the original report, and we hope the error is now fully resolved. BarkingFish (talk) 03:56, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dziekuje, to nie bota omylka tylko moja. Bot jedynie kopiuje zmiany z mojego arkusza kalkulacyjnego. Bede uwazal na ta mozliwosc w przyszlosci. --Jarekt (talk) 02:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you will have your bot revert these grave errors, and that in the future you ask the original uploader before making major changes to files. V85 (talk) 08:36, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
V85, disambiguation is a problem with no good solution. Both files which were in directories containing works of multiple people and all bot was doing was to add creators to files which were categorized into categories with creator templates. I will split the categories into disambiguated categories. That is also an issue if category name here matches article name in wikipedia of an article for a different person. That causes problems too. Any other categories needing disambiguation? --Jarekt (talk) 13:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Art_Book has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.
If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
Thanks for alerting me. I think I managed to automatically fix problematic edits. Let me know if you find any which are still problematic. --Jarekt (talk) 13:28, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Jarekt, can you add creator template etc. at Category:Abel Grimmer to the 2 files of Montfaucon? I have photographed all 12 month, but the quality is poor. I uploaded 2, do you want them to have all 12 uploaded? Greetings, --Havang(nl) (talk) 15:10, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If we do not have them than that would be useful, but poor quality images might not be usable. You will have to make this call. --Jarekt (talk) 02:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
See this image for what the quality is approx.: . I'll upload the full series after you have made of this file the file description with creator template, so that I can copy that. --Havang(nl) (talk) 10:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Niestety muszę donieść o kolejnych błędach bota (tj. Twoich ;). Tutaj nie tylko wstawiony błędny autor (!), ale też skasowane info o autorce fotografii, czyli de facto historia jak wyżej. Ten akurat przypadek mam w obserwowanych, ale zapewne bot mógł zrobić wiele podobnych edycji, których nie zauważyłam. Cancre (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Poprawilem 4 pliki gdzie skopiowalem Witkiewicza zamiast Wyspiańskiego. Takze poprawiam pareset "atelier". Tej grupie plikow do poprawienia (tym razem jakies 3k) szukalem "attributed", "after", "workshop of", itp. ale po francusku nie rozumiem i sie "atelier" zgubilo wsrod "Painter:", "Artist:", "Graphics by" itp. w paru jezykach. Dziekuje za pomoc i jesli cos jeszcze znajdziesz to mi powiedz. --Jarekt (talk) 02:48, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jarekt, I notice that your bot has added Web Gallery of Art category. Good idea, but I was wondering if it wouldn't be better to add it through {{From WGA}}. Source categories are often added this way, as they are flat and should not be editable through Hotcat and other gadgets.--Zolo (talk) 16:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I think {{Artwork}} could be added to the files in this category. The main concern with switching from information to artwork is to avoid mixing up photographers and artists in the same field, but it should not be a problem with these files.--Zolo (talk) 21:34, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not know about {{From WGA}}. I will use it next time. I am thinking about updating all the files in that set based on metadata from WGA, which can be downloaded. I am also thinking about uploading the rest of the images from that collection. --Jarekt (talk) 01:55, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think they changed the website design within last few weeks and you can not get to the info pages directly. I hope it is not permanent. I might just disable Info link in the template, but still record it in case they fix it. --Jarekt (talk) 12:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
Hi. FYI, your bot is leaving line breaks at the end of very highly-used templates. I fixed one here but could you please fix the rest? Otherwise, every {{Vd}} looked like this:
Your project is amazing! Thank you! The probelm is that I write about art on it.wiki and sometimes I do need good images right now, not in some months.. so in case I will need to upload some pictures by the way, but now that I know I will just upload the strictly necessary ones... Ora maybe can I tell you the artist I will need shortly so you can start uploading them files now? I will need for next months Tiziano, Sebastiano del Piombo and some other minors. Let me know. Thank you. Good Luck with your project I'm so looking forward to seeing the results then! --Sailko (talk) 20:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tutaj jest dużo zdjęć poza Niemcami właściwymi w granicach z owych okropnych czasów. Pomyślałem, że z racji "en-4" jesteś najlepszą osobą, którą mogę poprosić o wymyślenie zgrabniejszej nazwy, rozwiązującej ten problem i zaprogramowanie bota. Pozdr. --Starscream (talk) 09:41, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Children in Nazi Germany jest dosyc dobra nazwa zakladajac ze tereny okupowane sa czescia "Nazi Germany" nawet jesli sa poza Niemcami właściwymi. Inna mozliwosci to: "Children in Nazi Occupied Countries", "Children in Nazi Occupied Territories", "Children under Nazi Rule". Chyba najbardziej lubie ta ostatnia. --Jarekt (talk) 13:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jarekt. About a year ago I was nominated to adminship, which ended fail - here. I would like to hear your opinion if you think it is time for a new attempt, and general feedback about my work. thanks in advance matanya • talk07:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My main objection last year was "minimal involvement in Commons". From what I can see you were quite involved since then. If you reapply and let me know I will be happy to be one of the first to support you. Prior to that I would suggest cleaning a bit user:matanya page, which will have much more visitors. I would add babel templates to inform others about what languages can they use to communicate with you. I would also add a short notice about other username you used on Commons and maybe interwiki links to accounts on other wikipedias where you are mostly active. Also on unrelated subject, I do a lot of work with assisting with multilingual support to various templates. We have active speakers from many languages supporting that effort but Hebrew language support is much more sporadic. Can I ask for help if run into templates needing attention from Hebrew speakers? --Jarekt (talk) 17:57, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your advice. I'll do so. Feel free to ask me for help on Hebrew related subjects, and on any subject I can be of a help. matanya • talk06:52, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Witam Pana! Jako IP:80.171.90.12 zadalem sobie dzis sporo trudu i w sumie zmarnowalem sporo czasu. Niestety uzytkownik "Logan" bedacy najprawdopodobniej odpowiednikiem "wszystkowiedzacego polskiego gimnazjalisty" (w negatywnym zrozumieniu) "obrocil" ten caly wysilek w niwecz. Oczywiscie dla tego Pana w calej Polsce a takze w calych zasobach graficznych polskojezycznych i nieangielskojezycznych userow istnieje tylko jeden jedyny "dawny mlyn", jedno jedyne "rondo turbinowe" a firma "NAZWIJMY ja X" moze miec swoja filiale tylko w jednym miejscu i dlatego wystarczy ze grafika nazywa sie "firma x". Ponoc w zyciu obowiazuje zasada "gdy sie na czyms nie znam to sie do tego nie zabieram". Jezeli dobrze zrozumialem intencje tego Pana to w przyszlosci wystarczy oznaczac grafiki jako "schule, szkola, escuela 1,2,3,4,5 itd. "mlyn, mühle 1,2,3,4,5 itd... "chiesa, kirche, kerk, kosciol 1,2,3,4,5 itd ... a gdzie to juz nie jest wazne ... najwazniejsze przeciez ze gimnazjalista moze sobie porzadzic. Bardzo prosze o interwencje. pozdr. 80.171.160.18211:54, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
80.171.90.12, czy mozesz dac linki do plikow z ktorymi moge pomoc i napisac co im potrzeba? Takze jako IP jestes mniej doceniany przez innych uzytkownikow ktorzy nie sa w stanie rozpoznac czy maja do czynienia z kims doswiadczonym czy nowicjuszem. Zmiany robione przez nowicjuszow sa duzo bardziej sprawdzane [3] i czesciej anulowane niz zmiany "doswiadczonych" uzytkownikow (nawet gimnazjalistow). Zarejestruj sie a bedziesz mial mniej klopotow. --Jarekt (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Witam Pana! A teraz linki do tych grafik, "Rondo turbinowe", [4], "File:Toruń, Hotel 1231.jpg" - ta nazwa zostala juz poprawnie zmieniona przez innego usera. Na koniec jeszcze jeden jaskrawy przypadek z dnia wczorajszego [5] - to tak jakby w calej Polsce byl tylko jeden bunkier w dodatku NIE jest to wcale nazwa wlasna tego obiektu a sam przymiotnik "polish" jest czynnikiem wprowadzajacym w blad gdyz obiekt NIE jest "dzielem" budowniczych polskich ani tez polskim projektem. pozdr. 80.171.72.8504:58, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Zmienilem nazwy plikow o ktorych napisales. Kiedy prosisz o zminane nazwy to musisz podac dlaczego nazwa powinna byc zmieniona. Uwzgledniane powody zmian mozna znalezc w Commons:File renaming (strona zostala przetlumaczona na 10 lezykow ale nie na polski). Zgadzam sie ze przyklady plikow kture podales maja nie najlepsze nazwy i twoje proponowane nazwy byly duzo lepsze, ale twoje przyklady nie podpadaja do zadnej kategorii powodow do zmian podanych w Commons:File renaming. Powodem jest ze wiekszosc uzytkownikow commons nie uwaza nazw plikow za wazne - opisy plikow powinny byc jak najdokladniejsze, specifistyczne i poprawne, ale nazwy plikow powinny byc unikalne i nie kompletnie bezsesowne jub bledne. --Jarekt (talk) 01:55, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jarekt, thanks for rewriting the LangSwitch template. I was wondering if it would be possible for you to add some inline HTML comments in the template code so that the logic is easier to follow. Thanks! Also you might be interested in Bugzilla: 28596. Kaldari (talk) 23:30, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Your bot remove closing tag </nowiki> in "original upload log" section of file descriptions. Several examples: [6], [7], [8]. Please, fix this bug. --Art-top (talk) 22:45, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Those pesky historical metadata sections always give me trouble since there is no good way to avoid them and are rare enough that it is hard to test for them. I am no longer running this job with my bot so there is not much to fix. --Jarekt (talk) 19:34, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Since a few day, with french display, the {{other date}} template did not work anymore for centuries because of the deletion of
Template:Ordinal/fr. This template was apparently used for {{other date|century}} french translation.
Hopefully it is fixed now - I changed the call to {{ordinal|...}}. Language subtemplates should not be used directly so I did not expect it to be used. Thanks for letting me know. --Jarekt (talk) 00:02, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Several images of Polish money have been listed for deletion so that the community can discuss if they should be kept or not. We would appreciate if you could contribute your opinion, seeing as you created one of the categories that is now up for deletion. The discussion is here: Commons:Deletion requests/Money of Poland. Thank you. Magog the Ogre (talk) 04:38, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I renamed this and 2 other files recently after an IP asked me for assistance in this matter. I did not see harm in renaming since his proposed names were much more specific, files were not used on any wikipedias, the process did not add to workload of anybody but me and IP was rather unhappy about the work he put into coming up with deletion requests which are not being acted on. I explained to this rather active and secretive IP, why his rename requests were being rejected and Commons approach to file renames. I was hoping to prevent future labor on his part on unnecessary tasks, which adds to the workload of others who have to evaluate requests and act on them. At the same time I am trying to follow do not bite the newcomers philosophy. I do not expect I will be renaming other files like this. --Jarekt (talk) 12:49, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I just read an automated translation of your conversation above, file-naming will be forever contentious ;-). Yes it is good not to frustrate hard working users :-) --Tony Wills (talk) 05:50, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm you're right. If the subcategory of Photographs by her did not exist I would be concerned that we were implying all photos in the book are by her, but as it stands that is not a concern. This is fine and I'll revert myself. :-) Dcoetzee (talk) 01:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Jarekt, {{LangSwitch}} does not work anymore.
I know that you are probably not the responsable, but as last contributor, I need your help:
Look at User:Liné1/sandbox. I am french (fr), but it does not display Sous-genres inclus but the english defaut value "Included subgenera".
Can you help me ?
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 08:46, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It now works magically, without template modification.
Witam Pana. Prosze o zmiane nazwy pliku. User Themeparkgc poprzez swoj revert odstrzelil wlasnie nagrode glowna, proponuje zeby spolecznosc mianowala go ekspertem od spraw gdanskich a kolejne pliki numerowac od Gdansk "zero" do Gdansk "neverended number". Dzieki za ewentualna interwencje.Gdaniec (talk) 21:52, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Przepraszam ze Pana napastuje ale pojawil sie kolejny bialy kruk nazewnictwa "Gdfuh". Nie znam niestety na tyle angielskiego zeby mu wyjasnic ze wiecej szkodzi niz tworzy. Swoja droga to pod wzgledem socjologicznym zainteresowalaby mnie jego definicja "gdfuha"a - z reguly staram sie ludzi zrozumiec - lecz krew mnie zalewa gdy mam do czynienia z automatami. Chyba sie bede musial powaznie zastanowic czy warto sie tu dalej udzielac spolecznie przy takim nazwijmy to doslownie SABOTAZU. Chyba ze jedna z zasad kategoryzacji i sprzatania na commons jest wprowadzenie totalnego chaosu i "papciochmielowskiego nonsnsu" wtedy "mea culpa" i juz znikam bo nic tu po mnie. pozdr. Gdaniec (talk) 11:45, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Poszperalem jeszcze troche w zasobach i znalazlem grafike "Gdańsk Główne Miasto - Bazylika Mariacka" tzn. ze ewentualnie bylby to moj blad gdyz powinienem zaproponowac zmine na "Gdańsk Główne Miasto - Bazylika Mariacka 02" :) Gdaniec (talk) 11:50, 4 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bardzo mi przykro ale po ostatnich zmianach obiecalem ze nie bede wiecej zmieniac nazw grafik w przypadkach ktore nie sa na liscie oficjalnych powodow: Commons:File renaming. Wiele plikow na Commons ma nie najlepsze nazwy i wiele przydalo by sie poprawic, ale jedna z zasad Commons to jak naj mniej zmian nazw plikow i tylko w wyjatkowych sytuacjach. Powodem tego jest to ze zmany nazw czesto przerywaja linki z wikipedii do Commons dlatego zmiany sa dozwalane tylko w wyjatkowych sytuacjach. Poprawnosc i dokladnosc nazw plikow nie jest zazwyczaj wazna, i wiekszosc edytorow commons koncentruje energie na poprawe opisow grafiki (wewnatrz szablonu {{Information}}). Pozdrowienia --Jarekt (talk) 18:19, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you could replace line "|text = This image is in the public domain because ..." of Template:PD-NepalGov/en with English text of the license, including links to appropriate documents. If needed I will correct formatting afterwards. You could also fill "|desc=" field of Template:PD-NepalGov/doc with explanation for purpose of the template and when to use it. This section can be more verbose than license itself and provide examples. However if the template is self explanatory than I will just copy something from other license templates. --Jarekt (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nie, nie wszystkie, tylko te co mamy załadowane. Patrz opis w Category:Zdzisław BeksińskiMasur (talk) 19:02, 16 May 2011 (UTC) ps. a ta z kolei co mi dałeś to PD-PRL jest, całkiem poprawna. Źródło to fotografii, fotki w muzeum. Ale jak masz lepszą i ze źródłem to dawaj - możesz pod lepszą nazwę - tą się podmieni i skasuje. Masur (talk) 19:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you flood this category with images that apparently have nothing to do with the museum? (WGA states „private collection" for these images.) Please repair. --AndreasPraefcke (talk) 19:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You are right I must have made a mistake in my metadata processing spreadsheet, I will fix the category and correct the problem before future uploads. Thanks for alerting me. --Jarekt (talk) 20:10, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Tak często mi pomagałeś, że aż chcę się zapaść pod ziemię, gdy widzę datę ostatnie Twego wątku mej dyskusji. Byłem na Commons najrzadziej w całej karierze trwającej od wiosny 2006. Obrazek, który załączyłeś kojarzy mi się z profilem babci i dziadka po kądzieli. Fotograf zrobił po jednym zdjęciu prawych policzków, wywołał na czarnym papierze i dokończył nożyczkami. Później skleił tak, że babcia jest bardziej na lewo (heraldycznie), ale wciąż połączona z dziadkiem. A aby nie znikał, cienka biała granica. Niestety, dołączyli do większości wszyscy, którzy wiedzieli jak ta sztuka się nazywa. A mama prawdopodobnie jeszcze na świecie nie była. Potrzeba tu wielotomowego słownika polsko-angielskiego, w którym każdej literze poświęcono po jednym tomie. Pozdr. --Starscream (talk) 14:20, 12 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Instruction of BotMultichillT - question of a courious-by-default[edit]
Thanks for your help with the template. You might want to take a look at how it appears for one of the files it is used on: File:To the Women of the Republic.tif. I'm not quite sure "Artist" will work on all these files, since many are not art, especially textual documents. "Accession number" also doesn't make much sense in this context. I have also been putting {{NARA-cooperation}} outside of the template under the assumption that not all NARA documents necessarily come from the cooperation with the institution; there were many here already, and many already available on the web that people will take. Dominic (talk) 16:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you are saying. I think {{Artwork}} is better than {{Information}} (which is lowest common denominator mostly meant for self made images) but it is not optimal. We could create customized template from scratch or create generic template {{Record}} ({{Document}} ?) which will join {{Information}}, {{Book}} & {{Artwork}} as one of the basic templates each image should have. Than NARA-image-full could be based on the generic template which will take care of all the internationalization of field names. --Jarekt (talk) 17:18, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't to make this any harder than it needs to be. Really, I just wanted to map the elements in NARA's catalog records with template parameters, so that one doesn't need to use a standard template and guess where they go. I am just hoping to make these description pages more structured. Whatever needs to be done to make that happen is fine with me, but I feel a little helpless because all that template code is a little frightening to me. ;-) I really appreciate your help. Dominic (talk) 17:33, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That looks great. I would bring the location line ("Center for Legislative Archives (NWL), National Archives Building...") above the Institution:NARA box so it is more prominent, but that's all I can think of. I was also planning on adding another "General notes" parameter for that field in the records (e.g. [13]). This is written by the archivist, so it should probably go in that same section, set off from the scope and content somehow. It's usually just brief, specific citation or document information that did not fit within the other fields. Dominic (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will add "General notes" parameter. BTW about Institution:National Archives and Records Administration I was thinking about reserving this one for Washington DC and creating other ones for other NARA locations (College Park, etc.). Is there a finite number of values "location" parameter can take so we can use a switch statement to pick correct template? --Jarekt (talk) 20:44, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is a finite number, but it may be a lot. There is the main National Archives with a DC and College Park branch, but both also have multiple divisions represented in catalog entries. There are also more than a dozen presidential libraries and more than a dozen regional facilities, plus a couple of affiliated institutions. I think this is the full list below. Dominic (talk) 16:40, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We could create categories and Institution templates for all or some of them. That is how it is done with many other institutions. We should definitely have different institution templates for each presidential library. We already have Categories and articles for most. I think we need separate category and Institution template for National Archives at College Park, and two military academy archives. I am uncertain about regional archives, if some of them cold many records for which we will have files we should separate them too. --Jarekt (talk) 17:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Type
Code
Location
Office of Records Services—Washington, DC
Washington, DC (Archives I)
NWCT1
Textual Archives Services Division
NWL
Center for Legislative Archives
College Park, MD (Archives II)
NWCT2
Textual Archives Services Division
NWME
Electronic and Special Media Records Services
NWCS-C
Cartographic and Architectural Records
NWCS-M
Motion Picture, Sound, and Video Records
NWCS-S
Still Picture Records
Regional Records Services
NRAAB
Northeast Region (Boston)
NRAAN
Northeast Region (New York City)
NRBA
Mid Atlantic Region (Center City Philadelphia)
NRCA
Southeast Region
NRDA
Great Lakes Region (Chicago)
NREA
Central Plains Region (Kansas City)
NRFA
Southwest Region
NRGA
Rocky Mountain Region
NRHAL
Pacific Region (Laguna Niguel)
NRHAS
Pacific Region (San Francisco)
NRIAA
Pacific Alaska Region (Anchorage)
NRIAS
Pacific Alaska Region (Seattle)
NRPAO
National Personnel Records Center
Presidential Libraries
NLDDE
Dwight D. Eisenhower Library
NLFDR
Franklin D. Roosevelt Library
NLGB
George Bush Presidential Library
NLGRF
Gerald R. Ford Library
NLGWB
George W. Bush Library
NLHH
Herbert Hoover Library
NLHST
Harry S. Truman Library
NLJC
Jimmy Carter Library
NLJFK
John F. Kennedy Library
NLLBJ
Lyndon B. Johnson Library
NLRN
Richard Nixon Library
NLRNS
Richard Nixon Library - College Park
NLRR
Ronald Reagan Library
NLWJC
William J. Clinton Library
Affiliated Archives
USMA
U.S. Military Academy, West Point
USNA
U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis
I think that most of the documents come from the DC-area facilities, but I have also observed that it is quite rare for most Commons uploaders to have actually noted on image description pages such information. Certainly,most of the materials I will be uploading come from College Park. Dominic (talk) 16:26, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A further thought on the credit line guidance. Whilst the new upload form is great for the newbie, it might help to point out (somewhere towards the top), that it is quicker and easier to use the original basic upload form (once one has gained a bit of familiarity with the Commons) and provide the link.--P.g.champion (talk) 10:15, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to see the Creator:Ulrich Apt (I). I am just wondering wondering if work periods like Northern Renaissance are useful. Not considering that this is not strictly speaking a work period, it seems pretty redundant with life dates and work location. I think work period mostly makes sense when the period is shorter than the artist life dates.Zolo (talk) 05:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If this is used to indicate a style - like mannerism - rather than simply a period, maybe it would best fit into the "description" field, though I am not sure on how it should be done (using a {{Art movement}}) ?--Zolo (talk) 05:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the past when switching from Descriptions to nationality/gender/occupation when I encountered something like "Description=Italian Renaissance painter" I was converting it to "Nationality=italian|occupation=painter|workperiod=Renaissance". With the WGA artists I was trying to match each one to existing creator template. If none existed than to commons category or en wiki article, and than I was creating creator templates based on those. If none still matched (633 cases) I created brand new creators and categories based only on WGA data. WGA artist table, one of the sources of the info (along with DB) has a column called Period, which I used as Workperiod. I piped it through {{Period}} with the thought that I will internationalize it by adding translations to that template. --Jarekt (talk) 02:36, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This seems pretty thorough. I know that many websites use a "period" parameter to classify artists. Yet "work period: Renaissance" sound a bit odd to me. Either we consider that the Renaissance is simply a historical period and then it is redundant with life dates/location, or we consider "Renaissance" to refer to an artistic style and then I think it belongs to the "description" field.
unfortunately I don't understand any Polish. Can you understand what is written there under Author: «Praca własna osoby wikipedysty 83.12.91.242 (Maciejek), załadowana na jego prośbę przez Selso»? And do you understand why the uploader did this and could perhaps ask him? Regards --Rosenzweigδ19:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It says "Own work of wikipedian:83.12.91.242 (Maciejek) loaded by his request by Selso". I assume Maciejek requested the deletion, and Selso complied but I will ask. --Jarekt (talk) 04:16, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know the answer to Docu's question at the bottom ("the "Use this file" on the web button doesn't work with the NARA templates"). I wouldn't even know where to begin to figure that out. Dominic (talk) 15:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Any idea how to add a dot in dates in the file summary fot sl lang (atm 2011-07-22 is shown as 22 julij 2011, should be 22. julij 2011)? --Sporti (talk) 19:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It should be in nom when its just a date and yes I would like them activated (but don't know if I have to do anything; ATM it doesn't work where gen form is set in {{Other date}}: first half of July 2011
date QS:P,+2011-07-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719687
There already is gen form for sl in Other date in 3 cases ( |sl=Prva polovica {{ISOdate|1={{{2|}}}|2=sl|form=gen}}), but other forms don't work ({{ISOdate|1=2011-07|2=sl|form=gen}} => julija 2011). I think they need to be activated first in {{Date}}.--Sporti (talk) 05:53, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I activated "form" parameter in {{Date}} for sl language, but I am not sure it is correct. Other languages with activated support for "form" parameter have different months forms for YYYY-MM and YYYY-MM-DD style dates. Please check the Template:Other_date/testcases and tell me which cases do not work. --Jarekt (talk) 17:19, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's mostly ok now in the sandbox and gen/ins/loc is working. But in some cases (like beginning parameter) I would need to make a different rule for YYYY or YYYYY-MM input date. --Sporti (talk) 06:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's in {{Date}}. For example in the beginning parameter [now |sl=zgodnje {{ISOdate|1={{{2|}}}|2=sl}}] (and some others) it should be something like this:
if year (YYYY): |sl=zgodnje leto {{ISOdate|1={{{2|}}}|2=sl}}
if month and year (YYYY-MM)/else: |sl=zgodnji {{ISOdate|1={{{2|}}}|2=sl}}
I don't see anything like that in the template, but maybe you could count number of chars in {{{2|}}} (4=year, 7=month+year)...--Sporti (talk) 13:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Solved it with {{Str find}} (searches for '-'). Where can this be fixed {{int:exif-unknowndate/sl}} => neznan datum - first letter should be in lower-case?
I don't think so - year is usually YYYY, but it might have less digits. Well the only problem I can think off is something like 1-12 (december of the year 1) which has 4 chars like 2011. Hm.. is the a way to test if a String is an Integer - year would pass, but year-month wouldn't?--Sporti (talk) 14:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is a small mistake somewhere in the {{NationAndOccupation}} templates ( {{NationAndOccupation|m|SI|athlete|playwright|jurist|lang=sl}} => 'slovenski športnik , dramatik in pravnik' - there is a space before and after the comma), but can't figure out which template is it. --Sporti (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Double nationality also doesn't work properly (it did until recently) {{NationAndOccupation|m|SI/AU|athlete|lang=sl}} => 'slovenski-avstralski športnik' (should be slovensko-avstralski športnik). --Sporti (talk) 13:56, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed I do not think it it could have worked before "sl" was treated using default syntax (same as english). I changed it to allow "special" form of the first nationality, and since you have already created {{CountryAdjective/sl}} with "s" option it works. By the way, I think you do not need "{{#if:{{{3|}}}|an|}}" in that template. Most languages do not use it as it is purely English construct. See for example {{CountryAdjective/pl}}. --Jarekt (talk) 14:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That is great. I know those templates take time to translate and often push the limit of the language (at least Polish language I was editing). For many occupations it is unclear if female version is the same as male. Also with some countries, if I have never heard of such country than I do not know what person from such country would be called in polish for example in case of ST (in Polish ) I would rather use construct "[occupation] from [countryname]" than "[country adjective] [occupation]". Also it does not help that I do not use Polish language regularly in last 20 years. --Jarekt (talk) 14:15, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We can and often do add new occupations to {{Occupation/en}}, but that template is already so large and unruly that people are reluctant to add large volume of new ones. It is mostly used by Category:Creator templates, and different sports are rarely used as occupations of artists. There is large number of occupations in Category:People by occupation which are not represented in the template. At some point it was suggested that only occupations for which phrase "Famous ..." make sense should be included. What is the problem with athletes in SL language? in polish I just used "|sportsperson|athlete=sportowiec", in CS "sportovec/sportovkyně". --Jarekt (talk) 15:48, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well I used the template for category description of people too ... (Category:Stanko Bloudek) And there's nothing wrong with athlete, only if you were adding those sportsmen, it can mean a sportsmen in general or a track and field events competitor. --Sporti (talk) 05:44, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for letting me know. I have never seen that before - must be an error in my metadata spreadsheet. I will clean it up. --Jarekt (talk) 16:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My bot is replacing {{Information}} templates of about 2k files which come from WGA with {{Artwork}} templates with the same metadata as the one provided with new uploads by the same bot. But you are right I should be checking for "superseeded", DR, and several other templates images might have and should not be removed. I will also have to check on Institution categories. It sounds like There is still some problem with those. I will change my script and resume. --Jarekt (talk) 20:48, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jarekt, There is really a problem with your bot. Not only in Category:Museo archeologico nazionale (Naples), but now also in the Category:Muséum national d'histoire naturelle are uploaded a lot of paintings which are of other museums (here from the museums of Naples (Capodimonte), Ghent (Fine Arts), Boston (Fine Arts), etc.). Now I try to put in the correct category the paintings that I know they are in the Museum of Capodimonte, but it's a big work...! Please can you verify that your bot works correctly ?! There is so a lot of work to do everywhere. If we have to do also all these corrections, it will became soon impossible ! Thank you very much ! Best regards, --DenghiùComm (talk) 08:55, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
More problems with Categories: drawings vs. prints[edit]
Dear Jarekt,
I also recognized some wrong categories: on June 4th, your bot uploaded several prints by Albrecht Dürer. Although the data "Medium" clearly states that these are prints (engraving, etching, woodcut, ...), these files ended up in different categories of "drawing" ("drawings of Albrecht Dürer", drawings of institutions, ...), although it should be "prints".
--HBook (talk) 00:19, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.
In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!
Nie nie jest pożądana. Commons trzyma często parę wersji obrazów, bo każdy ma trochę inne kolory ale jeśli chodzi o czarno-białe grafiki to 1-2 wersje powinny wystarczyć. Jeśli chcesz to posprzątać to:
wybierz najlepszą wersje: często to jest wersje z największą liczbą pikseli ale nie zawsze
zsynchronizuj metadane: identyczne grafiki powinny mieć identyczne opisy.
dodaj szablon {{Duplicate}} do grafik gorszej jakości
Niektóre grafiki Dürera są czarno-białe a inne w naturalnych kolorach jak ta kopia teraz wygląda - zostawiłbym obie. Dobrej zabawy --Jarekt (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Jarekt, I wish to thank you for uploading the pictures from WGA. But it is not to tell this that I am writing to you this message. I noticed that JarektUploadBot has made some changes, which are incorrect (e.g. François Boucher (?) and his studio vs François Boucher: [15][16]; 212x312 vs 210x313: [17], etc.) or inexact (e.g. Salon of 1745 vs first half of 18th century:[18]; ca. 1718 vs first half of 18th century: [19], etc.). Thank you. --Thorvaldsson (talk) 12:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
My bot was running a script aimed at synchronizing metadata of of already uploaded images from WGA. There were about 5-6k images from WGA (binary identical to the images found at WGA) on Commons before my mass upload and a lot of them have hardly any metadata and very few categories. My bot was aimed at adding missing metadata and assigning categories while preserving metadata and categories provided by the Commons users. User:JarektUploadBot has the links to the source codes I used and User:Jarekt/WGA was used for final merge. In some cases when I have both Commons and WGA descriptions I went with Commons version ( for example title, medium, etc.). In other cases I tested commons version for presence of internationalization templates and when detected used them otherwise used WGA version (author, institution) and with some fields I just used WGA version if present (Source, date, dimensions). With such a large number of images manual verification of all changes was not possible but I verified several hundred edits and majority of them were fine. However I noticed that in some cases the additional information provided by Commons users was lost. You found some of them too. That is why in change summary I added "Please check!". Sorry for additional work that causes. --Jarekt (talk) 13:58, 30 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.
Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
I did not just copy and paste. I merged improvements done to German template into commons template and wrote documentation of the template. It was suggested to use this template within {{Creator}} template and I was trying to synchronize it with current German version, prior to possible wider use. I think it is working properly now. --Jarekt (talk) 16:01, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for working on this topic! I made test:Authority_control/i18n_01. It is supposed to provide an overview and how far migration and i18n is. Some questions:
What languages are you talking / reading?
What wikis are you contributing?
I have a crappy computer and a crappy internet. I can try to be at IRC channel #kavehoyz and hope to will be able to retrieve my Skype password for "irelgnag".
Hi, thank you for your message to User:Babrze. could you please also explain to them that we appreciate their contributions but it would be more useful if they upload each photo separately, in the original size or another usable size. this way we can add the related description and location information to each image and anyone can use them easily. thanks for the help. ■ MMXX talk15:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Opps sorry missed that one. My bot was adding interwikis it knew about. I might run interwiki bot in the future if I ever figure out how to get it to work. Bot can usually add the rest once one is known. --Jarekt (talk) 21:56, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I will categorize creator templates in october and also improve the categorization of my recent uploads. I'm currently busy with Wiki Loves Monuments. ~Pyb (talk) 14:58, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Batch Uploading of Mount Lemmon SkyCenter Images[edit]
Hi Jarekt,
Thanks for responding to my request for help on the village pump. I have a copy of the .zip file containing the images here. Do you think you would be able to batch upload them? The author would be Adam Block/Mount Lemmon SkyCenter/University of Arizona. I'm not sure about the category, how about Images from the Mount Lemmon SkyCenter would that be ok? I am also not sure about descriptions and dates. Please let me know if you need any more information. Many thanks, Originalwana (talk) 17:30, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Open Access resources as an ongoing donation to Commons[edit]
Dear Jarek,
I am contacting you because your entry at Commons:GLAM#Participants indicates that you may be willing to help with mass uploads of media, which is what I am looking for.
I am Wikimedian in Residence on Open Science and working on facilitating the reuse of Open Access materials on Wikimedia projects. As such, I would like to explore the possibilities of systematic upload of suitably licensed Open Access materials - images and media onto Commons and potentially the full text onto Wikisource. Would that be of interest to you?
There are two components to that (addressing the backlog and updating frequently) and two major sources from where the files could be harvested (from individual publishers or from large Open Access repositories like PubMed Central).
If you see a way to get the ball rolling on either of these ends, I would be glad to discuss details. For a start, please see this discussion of bot support for Commons upload of image files from an Open Access publisher that already uploads them automatically to a MediaWiki installation, though not yet to Commons.
Hi Jarek, thanks for your offer to help. Providing such metadata spreadsheets should be doable. I will prepare one for a test run. --Mietchen (talk) 20:37, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. It took a while, but now such a spreadsheet with metadata has been prepared for testing purposes. As far as I can tell, none of these images have been uploaded to Commons till date. Please let me know if you require any further information. Thanks a lot! -- Daniel Mietchen - WiR/OS (talk) 00:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I reverted your change to {{Information}} as it caused problems with templates in the permission field - it caused the template to go directly into the info table, and then close it. Please sandbox any further revisions before applying them to such a highly-used template. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:51, 14 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Where do we configure the header component for new articles in Creator: ns?[edit]
I have had a poke at MediaWiki:Newarticletext and cannot see that we have the components there to add the template preload component for the Creator. Would you mind telling me where that is configured, as I am idea shopping for similar namespace at enWS. Thanks. — billinghurstsDrewth23:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It is the cycle from 14 objects about World War 1, which is only in Perm Gallery, in one place. (I had an article about them ru:Аллегории Денисова-Уральского). He also made animal statuettes, but they aren't allegorical, it was his unique work of that genre. Shakko (talk) 09:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be some kind of collaboration going on between two users, SupremeDeliciousness and Nableezy, who keep changing the data on pictures I upload and are using my contributions to the Commons to continue edit warring on subjects they are fighting about on Wikipedia. Can something be done to stop this? I see they have both been blocked on Commons before--Gilabrand (talk) 19:59, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anybody has rights to update other people image descriptions. If changes are not correct or are removing useful information than they should be reversed, if changes are malicious than they are considered vandalism and should be reversed and reported. However looking at edits by User:Supreme Deliciousness and user:Nableezy to your images, I do not see anything wrong with them. For example, in [21] there were 2 changes: category removal - which was fine, the image was overcategorized since once you have city level category Category:Gilo you do not need country level one Category:Places in Israel. The second change removing Israel from description of Gilo, also seems correct: according to wikipedia en:Gilo it is in the West Bank, not in Israel. I think all such images should be in subcategories of Category:Israeli settlements in the West Bank, but categorizing or describing them as being part of Israel will cause pointless edit warring. I am surprised that nobody requested file rename of File:Israel - Banias waterfalls 002.jpg and other similar files. --Jarekt (talk) 20:56, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Right now, the template works by assuming anything not a TIFF is a JPG. It would be much neater if there were a "Format=" parameter, and I have bot simply input the file format there; that way it could also handle sound and video in the future, as well as DjVu/PDF or whatever else we might have. Does that make sense? Do you think you can handle the template change? Dominic (talk) 14:31, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can do that part easily enough. I thought a parser function might be able to make "TIFF=yes" equivalent to "Format=TIFF" and everything else ("TIFF=no" or that argument is missing) equivalent to "Format=JPG". I can clean it up with my bot using pywikipedia, but it will take a while to edit all the tens of thousands of pages, and there will be breakage in the meantime otherwise. Dominic (talk) 21:21, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I never liked the name of {{NARA-image-full}}. May be what we should do is to use this opportunity to rename it to {{NARA-information}}, {{NARA-record}}, or something similar. That way we can write the new template with "Format" but without "TIFF". You can switch your bot to use the new template and change already uploaded files at your leisure. --Jarekt (talk) 14:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. "Description" would actually be the archival term of art, but that's probably confusing with the other fields we have on Commons with that name. I'm also fine with "information" or "record" or whatever you think works well. Dominic (talk) 20:09, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, it might take a while but I will get to it. The interwiki code (in automatic mode) only adds interwikis to pages that have at least one. You can greatly help the process by adding at least one iw link to each page that does not have one (if possible) --Jarekt (talk) 10:11, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I generally try to link en_wiki (or at least one with an article), but not necessarily all others.
BTW, for people, the "hint" function might help. You could try to use that on Swedes with sv, Italians on it, etc. This should keep false matches fairly low. -- Docu at10:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am afraid of hints, since I have seen a lot of pages where en wikipedia name matches commons name but the person is different. I am writing a python code that will try to match people categories with no interwiki links to several wikipedias by matching the name and date of birth or death. BTW adding interwikis is not uncontroversial. --Jarekt (talk) 10:55, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I wonder if should add them all to a category. This way I could use Glamorous to find places where images from these are being used. -- Docu at12:11, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I do not know if Glamorous would be useful there, I tried but could not figure out how to use it for that purpose. One thing you can do is to use interwiki.py with hints. If you are interested I can let you know what changes were needed to the current code to run interwiki.py on Commons. --Jarekt (talk) 01:21, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that would be most helpful.
For a general idea how glamorous can help here, try the link "Images from subcategories currently in use" on Category:Ship_categories_with_missing_year#Tools. It's a bit slow though. As I already used most results for that category, there wont be much left you could actually use there.
I developed a basic feature to retrieve information from articles on en. Thus identical titles at en_wiki, like the results at Commons:Bots/Work_requests/Archive_5#Categories_w.2Fo_interwikis probably wont render much. I tried to match, e.g. Category:Admiral Ushakov (ship, 1979) with "Admiral Ushakov (ship)", but this gives too many false positives. Maybe "Admiral Ushakov (1979)" gives better matches. One of the reasons we use the naming convention for ship categories is that titles elsewhere don't work that well on our scale. -- Docu at04:46, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for tips on Glamorous, I will try to use them. As for interwiki.py: in order to get it to work I had to :
1. Modify pywikipedia\families\commons_family.py: Add at the end of __init__ function:
# JT changes BEGIN# Allow crossnamespace interwiki linking from ns:14 (categories)# to wikipedia ns:0 (article) and ns:14 (categories)self.crossnamespace[14]={'_default':{'_default':[0,14],},}# JT changes END
2. Go to pywikipedia\families\interwiki.py to function Subject.finish and replace "#self.replaceLinks(self.originPage, new, True, bot)" (line 1587) with
# JT changes BEGIN# Special case of Commons which allow intewiki lints to Wikipedias, but wikipedias do not allow linking to Commonsifself.originPage.site().sitename()=='commons:commons':new2=dict(new)new2[self.originPage.site()]=self.originPagetry:self.replaceLinks(self.originPage,new2,bot)except:pywikibot.output(u"======Can't save the page %s======"%self.originPage.aslink(True))# JT changes END
Tanja, Dostałaś wiadomość of bota bo twoje pliki maja szablon {{Uncategorized}} albo {{Unc}} który sama dodałaś. Poszukaj {{subst:Unc}} w opisach twoich plików. Możesz wyrzucić ten szablon. Także muszę cie ostrzec ze wiele z twoich plików przypuszczalnie zostanie wyrzucone z Commons. Na przykład File:Beataflorida.jpg: ożywasz {{PD-old}} bez podania autora ani daty jego śmierci. Zaoszczędzisz dożo pracy sobie i innym jeśli będziesz przesyłać pliki tylko znanych autorów jeśli twierdzisz ze zmarli przed 1941 rokiem. Najlepiej jak dodasz "Creator template" do każdego pliku który ożywa {{PD-old}}. Fakt ze inne wikipedie nie wyrzuciły jeszcze tych plików, nie znaczy ze są bezpieczne na Commons. Pozdrowienia. --Jarekt (talk) 22:59, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted the Template:Babel/header and Template:Babel/footer templates after modifying part of Template:Babel that call them. I do not think anybody else called them directly, (or at least should not have). I looked at some pages that supposelly transclude the template, like User:Vlaascho but for life of me I can not find anything that calls it. I think it is a case of database not updating their links yet. I will try to run a bot to replace {{tl|Babel) with preferred {{#babel:...}} where possible, that should fix it for most pages. --Jarekt (talk) 01:09, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Witaj. Przeglądam ostatnio duże kategorie plików na potrzeby plWiktionary. Zauważyłem przy okazji błędy w kilkudziesięciu grafikach. Błąd polega na tym, że miniaturze zdjęcie wygląda na nieprawidłowo obrócone. Po powiększeniu okazuje się, że fotka jest obrócona, ale proporcje są nieprawidłowe. Zerknij tutaj: http://pokazywarka.pl/x0qsg5/
Co z tym robić? Gdzie to zgłaszać? Jest tego sporo. Na dodatek automat do obracania fotek działa nieprawidłowo – co innego widać na stronie obrazka, a co innego na podglądzie przy zgłaszaniu do obracania. Niestety mój angielski jest kiepski i nie za bardzo potrafię się dogadać z administratorem, który pisał do mnie w tej sprawie. Pozdrawiam / Andrzej 22 (talk) 17:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jest to związane z bugzilla:6672 gdzie wprowadzono kod który obraca pliki na podstawie danych EXIF. Jednak to jest jakiś nowy problem i nie wiem co tu się dzieje, ale popytam się i zreperuje. User:Saibo głownie się pyta dlaczego prosisz o obrót w złą stronę, ale w wypadku File:Catedrala Ortodoxă Cluj 10.jpg nie jestem pewien jak to zreperować. Jak chcesz obrócić jakąś grafikę to ożywaj linka "Obróć grafikę", to ci pokaże jak grafika będzie wyglądała po obrocie. Jak znajdziesz więcej problematycznych zdjęć to mi powiedz i ja się nimi zajmę. --Jarekt (talk) 05:45, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Witaj. Błędów ciąg dalszy. Zobacz tutaj: [22]. Fotka powinna być obrócona o +90°. Tak też zaznaczono w formularzu, jednak na podglądzie pojawia się miniatura, jakby obraz miał być obrócony o 180°. To jest przykład tego, że program źle pokazuje to, jak bedzie wyglądała grafika po obrocie. Ten mechanizm szwankuje. Z tego co wiem, to wnioski w Bugzilli potrafią leżeć nierozpatrzone całymi latami. Może lepiej napisać do autora tego oprogramowania? Przy okazji inne pytanie. Czy w Commons nie ma zwyczaju odpowiadania na stronie dyskusji dyskutanta? Pozdrawiam. / Andrzej 22 (talk) 23:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Jarekt, I saw your bot replaced Template:Babel with #Babel:. This is certainly desirable, but it seems that the internationalization of #babel is currently broken. I get English headers and footers, even when my interface is in French.--Zolo (talk) 07:05, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above file, and any others that have been uploaded should not be uploaded as the works of Giotto di Bondone. They were all attributed to him in the 19th century, for want of a better name to stick on them, and the attribution has stuck. It is certain that none (or at the best very few) of the works in the upper church are by him. Most current art historians believe that they were done by a team of artists from Rome. However most older books have never corrected this. And the web Gallery of art and other online sources list them as Giotto's work.
The best name to put on them is "Upper Church St Francis of Assisi" or something similar. There are some Giotto's in the Lower Church at Assisi.
Just seeking another opinion on what to do with the uploads of Obrazek (talk·contribs), and I found the pages when looking at cleanup for the pages for the redlinked [[Template:Album Ceskoslovenska armada na hrade Palanok]]. They have some issues around the template, broken {{Information}}, however, the issues go deeper, as the images are not their own and adequately sourced, there has been a deletion discussion for one of the images with a kept decision though not a thorough discussion, and no clear copyright, nor indication otherwise published, and no guidance at Commons:Copyright tags. Beyond burying your hands into your head, got an opinion? — billinghurstsDrewth15:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed some file descriptions but the user uploded a lot of good images, but you are correct that the license is not correct. I will check with Czech admins to see what to do with them. --Jarekt (talk) 17:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
With categories at Commons I usually prefer to go with the facts on EN or in this case IT wiki. If there are any controversies they should be settled there first, where there is more people to debate them. --Jarekt (talk) 13:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. For the cases where a there are two-three plausible dates for an event or works, is it ok to have it categorized in each of the possible years, till better evidence is available? --Codrin.B (talk) 00:06, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I see that your JarektBot is doing a good job on interwikis. As there is no consensus on the order, I would prefer however that it does not put systematically the categories on top of the categories and the interwikis on the bottom. Like most bots do, the best is to keep the categories together, but not change the order. --Foroa (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am just running m:Pywikipediabot/interwiki.py after being annoyed about how often our interwiki links are out of date or point to non existing pages. The interwiki.py is a huge code which does not have that many customization parameters. As a result I ndo not have any choice about the position of categories and interwiki links. They are being placed i the same position as on all the other wikis. --Jarekt (talk) 13:02, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I documented somewhere between 10 and 20000 categories with text and IWs from sumitup. I gain significant time by having the categories at the bottom, and for maintenance of well documented categories, it is much faster if the categories are at the bottom. That the bot changes such layout is not a real drama, but I noticed that some people take a pleasure in applying rules and protesting. I saw hundreds of categories changed just to remove a white space or to change the order in the hundreds of disambiguation pages I made. So I don't need an excuse for nitpickers to start making futile edits on those categories; not a drama in se, but just significant more work in my watchlist to check those edits on correctness. --Foroa (talk) 07:06, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The script I linked is usually only applied if another change is made, e.g. when moving categories (sample). This reduces the number of SchlurcherBot edits needed. -- Docu at07:12, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
For a general setting, I think you need to add "interwiki_putfirst" in the commons family file. See the Wikipedia family file for comparison. -- Docu at04:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
self.interwiki_putfirst seem to control the order of interwiki links (alphabetical order on language code, language name or something else) not the order of interwikis before or after categories. Commons:Tools/pywiki file description cleanup seems to be no longer needed: it is part of the pywikipediabot code. cosmetic_changes.py for commons cosmetic changes seem to focus on changes fo files not categories, so it is not particularly relevant. I looked in pywikipedia\families\commons_family.py, a single file with all the settings specific to commons, and it seems that you can pick interwiki before categories or categories before interwikis, but there does not seem an option for neither, I guess because bot needs to know where to add new interwikis. I will look more through the pywikipediabot code. --Jarekt (talk) 04:13, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I looked through the code of the standard pywikipediabot infrastructure and asked around on related mail list, and it seems like there is no easy solution to this problem. The problem is with one of the most fundamental functions of the code: wikipedia.replaceLanguageLinks which is used by interwiki.py (which I am using) and couple dozen other utilities. Apparently when any bot using pywikipediabot infrastructure adds an interwiki or category than it performs the task by first removing all interwikis or categories and then inserting new block in the proper location. The net result is that the process the page code is always kept in the same order with categories and interwikis kept together and in proper location. Each project using the infrastructure can customize the settings to encoding if categories and interwikis are kept on top or the bottom of the page, if they are all in one line or one per line, and if categories are on top of interwikis or the other way around. Commons is currently customized to use the same order as Wikipedia: categories and interwikis are on the bottom, one per line with categories on top. That is the order currently enforced by all the bots using pywikipediabot infrastructure.
I can change the code to request interwikis to be placed above categories (Wikia's preferred style), but such change will affect only my bot's edits and if it is in conflict with all the other bots using pywikipediabot infrastructure - it will lead to a lot of changes. We can also request code change to pywikipediabot infrastructure which will eventually affect all the derived bots, but that would require consensus. I can also stop adding interwikis, (I have plenty of other interesting tasks on my to do list), however that would not solve much since most other bots, using pywikipediabot infrastructure will have the same effect of standardizing pages they are working on, even when they are working on different problems. And most bots out there are either AWB based and perform mostly simple find and replace tasks or use pywikipediabot infrastructure. Very few are like already mentioned user:MerlIwBot which use home-brewed code. --Jarekt (talk) 15:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Proszę o zwrócenie uwagi na usera, który chyba poza tym, że nie ma pomysłów co ze sobą zrobić łazi za innymi ... 80.171.72.152 18:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC
Although Polish is my native language and I frequently use it, I did not live in Poland for last 20 years and I am rather rusty in discussing subjects I was not familiar with 20 years ago. As a result I do not try to translate legalese or technical texts into Polish. --Jarekt (talk) 19:54, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.
In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!
I came across your photo taken at Joshua Tree National Park and I was wondering if you'd allow me to use it in a guidebook to the national parks I've been putting together? If that's alright, how would you like to be attributed?
Thank you and enjoy the Holiday Season,
Michael Oswald (michael.joseph.oswald@gmail.com)
P.S. I'll be happy to pass along electronic versions (EPUB and PDF) when it's completed.
P.S.S. To better understand the project, feel free to have a click around www.stoneroadpress.com
Hi, can you update this list so we can finish to check categories and names? Do not list thos whose original category has been already redirected. Thanks! Merry Christmas :) --Sailko (talk) 19:39, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sailko, I got dissatisfied with that list and implemented something that works better. Category:Institution template stubs without home category holds institution stubs that have categoreies that were not matched with the categories yet. The way I usually work with them is to click in an institution that will give you a page with pretyped search box. I usually search categories, institutions and galleries for the matching name. If I do not find any hits than I shorten the name. If I find a matching category I add category redirect, and if not than I create the category and add it to the Commons category structure. --Jarekt (talk) 02:03, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 17:02, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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