Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/03

Uploading SVG File, "File did not pass verification"

Howdy! I'm trying to upload some maps but whenever I try to upload the SVG file, I get the error "File did not pass verification". The maps were exported as SVGs directly from ArcGIS pro, and open just fine in vector editors like Inkscape. The files are quite large but are under 100mb. I've uploaded the files here to google drive if someone would like to try uploading them. Let me know if you can help or need any more information. Thanks! LaMamelle (talk) 03:07, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Disregard this, immediately found out the issue after posting, apparently embedding fonts within the SVG will cause this error. LaMamelle (talk) 03:31, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

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How do I delete an image I created???

Here it is File:Cyril Soudant 2023.jpg

HOW do I do this? I didn't know the licencing wasn't ok.... AnthonyLSJ (talk) 02:20, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi AnthonyLSJ. You can't delete the image yourself, but you can request that it be deleted per speedy deletion criterion G7. Just go to the file's page, click on "Edit" at the top of page, and then add the syntax for Template:SDG7 at the top of the editing window that appears. Click "Show preview" to check that things look OK, and then click "Publish changes" if they do. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:05, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

•  Done Deleted per prompt user request. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 03:14, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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не правильно загрузил фото

Я не правильно загрузил 5 последних фото: 2 афиши и 3 фотографии Русской роговой капеллы. Как мне их удалить? (или удалите их, пожалуйста сами) Канаев Николай Викторович (talk) 13:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Канаев Николай Викторович: Just edit the pages and insert this template ({{SD|1=G7}}) and publish changes.--Mehdi^Talk 15:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Спасибо Канаев Николай Викторович (talk) 16:08, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Mehdi^Talk 16:20, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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I want to delete my upload

Hi - I have uploaded a picture on wiki commons that I want to remove now. I don't want this picture to be publicly published.Could you help me with that ? Deepika257 (talk) 06:36, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit the file page to include {{Speedydelete|Uploader request - mistake}}. As the upload was recent, that should suffice. –LPfi (talk) 08:14, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks - just added it to Caption. Deepika257 (talk) 09:49, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Oops. I didn't think of the structured data. I cannot see the caption and the template doesn't seem to work there. I reverted your edit and added the template to the wikitext: Special:Diff/737783898/737829045. I hope the admin who sees the history notes that it was originally added by you. –LPfi (talk) 13:03, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done - Jmabel ! talk 17:10, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

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Copyright help regarding File:Kebakaran Depo Pertamina Plumpang 3 Maret 2023 CNN.jpg

Hello, i want to edit a info in a file, but i don't know how to edit it, thanks

--AkuMupus (talk) 11:51, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

If the info is in the wikitext description, then, on desktop, you click the "edit" tab. Here a direct link: https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Kebakaran_Depo_Pertamina_Plumpang_3_Maret_2023_CNN.jpg&action=edit. –LPfi (talk) 13:09, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

But I think the real problem is whether CNN Indonesia releases their photos with a free licence. I doubt, and if not, the photo must be deleted from Commons. Some other projects (such as Wikipedia in English) allow uploads as "fair use", if the file is included in some article. –LPfi (talk) 13:14, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

i think CNN release they media for free, but they give a watermark, sooo AkuMupus (talk) 14:28, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

DELETED. Source page is completely clear: "© 2023 Trans Media, CNN name, logo and all associated elements (R) and © 2023 Cable News Network, Inc. A Time Warner Company. All rights reserved." - Jmabel ! talk 17:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

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Updated image doesn't show

I have updated a mapping image I made; it is at Oke - ply map 1874.gif The map should have a yellow background, preferable to the earlier white background. If you go to its page here and click on the image, a largher version of the outdated image appears on the right of the screen. When I use the image in wikipedia at Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LSWR the old version of the image shows. How can I get the update to appear? Afterbrunel (talk) 06:55, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I can see a new version of ur file. Please clear your browser's cache. Just press Alt+Shift+* or Ctrl+Shift+R (For windows). If u use Mac, Open the Finder window and press shift + command + G.--Mehdi^Talk 07:13, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. But in the wikipedia article Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LSWR, the updated images don't appear. I originally designed them within wikipedia and have tried to transfer them to wikimedia and then updated; but the images in the wikipedia article are still the earlier wikipedia ones. Grateful for any guidance. Afterbrunel (talk) 12:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience links: en:Exeter to Plymouth railway of the LSWR#Railways to Exeter, en:File:Oke - ply map 1874.gif, File:Oke - ply map 1874.gif. For me the images show on their description pages and in the article. But you say you would like the Commons version to show – when there is a locally uploaded image and one on Commons by the same name, the local one is shown. For the Commons one to show, the Wikipedia one needs to be deleted (or either file moved to a unique name). –LPfi (talk) 12:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

I submitted a deletion request for local file on English Wikipedia. --Mehdi^Talk 13:14, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Afterbrunel (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

YW. --Mehdi^Talk 18:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

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Кариатиды, Растры

Почему стали писать, что это гальюнные фигуры? Ведь гальюн - это туалет на судне. Раньше писали галеонные фигуры. Галеон (galion)— большое многопалубное парусное судно XVI—XVIII веков с достаточно сильным артиллерийским вооружением, использовавшееся как военное и торговое. 31.44.244.166 12:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

• I'm not sure what (if any) help in using Commons is being requested here. Could a native Russian speaker please have a look? - Jmabel ! talk 17:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
• @Lvova: --Mehdi^Talk 18:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Ваш вопрос не связан с пользованием Викискладом, но ответ Вы можете получить, например, по ссылке ru:Гальюнная фигура. Анастасия Львова^ru/en 18:58, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

How to create a new category

I used to be able to create a new category by searching for it, and if it isn't found, it would give me an option of creating it. That option is no longer there - at least I couldn't see it. How can I create a new category? Bubba73 (talk) 16:15, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

You can add a non-existent category to a file and then follow the red link to create the category page. TilmannR (talk) 16:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bubba73: Forgot to ping. TilmannR (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

ThanksBubba73 (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bubba73: U can read Commons:Categories#Creating a new category and follow the guides.--Mehdi^Talk 16:33, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Bubba73: The change to a different default search tool added an additional step. You can still search and click the link "Switch to Special:Search" at the top of the page, after or before the search. Or you can set the previous search tool as default in your user preferences if you want. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

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CCTV and public domain

Hi everyone. I wanted to ask particularly about this template which says "CCTV, dashcam, and bodycam footage has no creative input" and therefore is in the public domain. Is this something related to a country's law or is it something globally accepted on Commons? HeminKurdistan (talk) 16:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• @HeminKurdistan: This question would probably be far better asked at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 19:48, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel You are right, sorry for inconvenience. HeminKurdistan (talk) 20:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

  Resolved

  I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. HeminKurdistan (talk) 20:21, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Can someone closed this Cfd?

Commons:Categories for discussion/2022/02/University and college yearbooks This has been proposed for over a year. -- Ooligan (talk) 04:31, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

•  Done, with a remark there in the closing. - Jmabel ! talk 04:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for your prompt and courteous action. -- Ooligan (talk) 04:53, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

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What is: missing SDC copyright license?

I've just noticed that this category Self-published work missing SDC copyright license was added to my uploaded file. What does it mean? Should I do something myself?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Self-published_work_missing_SDC_copyright_license MrPanyGoff 17:20, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

Generally, linking the specific file helps. However, here I see no problem. The category is a hidden maintenance category, so can be safely ignored by those who do not work with the maintenance. One of the boxes at the top of the category page says

"This category is used by bots syncing information to Structured Data on Commons (SDC). Any 'missing' information is already included in the file description pages and is being replicated in structured format."

It goes on telling what you can do if you don't want to wait until a bot fixes it automatically.

–LPfi (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

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post strauss family crest at list of European Jewish nobility

I was frustration with load for List of european jewish nobility but it won't post strauss family crest due to new or I don't understand what the message was trying to explain to me about load problem or else. Please help me to resolve the problem. Sidney&Iris (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't understand your description of the problem. If you get an error message, try to copy it for pasting here. Somebody might recognise it and tell what it is about, or one could search for the message and find out what it means. You could simply try again, and if the problem persists, then copy the error message. –LPfi (talk) 18:53, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

OK. I found your upload attempt in a log. It seems you tried to upload the image in thumbnail size. Instead upload it at full size. The filter is more picky when it comes to uploads when editing an article. You could retry the upload using the upload link here at Commons: Special:UploadWizard. Often a thumbnail-sized image hints that you just found it on the net. Did you draw the coats of arms yourself? Otherwise you are not supposed to use {{Own}} as source nor your user name as author, and you should check copyright issues. –LPfi (talk) 19:02, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Works of artistic craftsmanship v graphic works

I’m still not sure what’s the difference between these two terms when it comes to 2D freedom of panorama. For example, in Australia works of artistic craftsmanship are alright, but graphic works are not. So, would this file be a copyright violation or not? Best regards, RodRabelo7 (talk) 05:54, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

According to this: "Works of artistic craftsmanship include forms of artistic expression beyond the conventions of paintings, drawings and sculptures", for instance "hand painted tiles and stained glass". Ruslik (talk) 19:27, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Logo upload

Hi, I'd like to upload the current logo of a new brand of the company I'm working for. It doesn't work. What do I have to do to make it happen? Lorena20min (talk) 07:36, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Lorna20min. Before you do anything else, you might want to carefully read through Commons:Licensing to make sure you understand what it means to upload content to Commons. Many companies are highly protective of their intellectual property and uploading your company's logo to Commons might actually not be in the best interests of your company. Although logos can be uploaded to Commons, it's usually only done when the logo is considered to be too simple to be eligible for copyright protection or the copyright holder explicitly agrees to give their COM:CONSENT and agrees to release the logo under one of the free licenses that Commons accepts. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

As for the technical issue: you don't mention which of many methods you were using to upload the photo, but for beginners Special:UploadWizard is usually easiest. If it doesn't do exactly what you want, go in and edit the filepage after uploading. - Jmabel ! talk 16:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Purging isn't working?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T330942
RESOLVED

Uploaded a new version of File:Intel i486 logo.svg after I had mistakenly forgotten to convert text to paths, the SVG file itself is updated but the PNG thumbnail is stubbornly stuck at the first version, rendering the text elements with the sans font of the OG reviison instead of the text-to-path'ed custom font of the latest. Tried uploading a junk SVG and reverting, tried purging from multiple devices on different networks—still not budging. Is this a replication lag thing, or something else? DigitalIceAge (talk) 21:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

• @DigitalIceAge: In most contexts, I'm seeing what you uploaded three times, but the file history is thumbnailing the latest upload looking like the original version.

Has to be some sort of caching thing, etc. Doubtless will eventually sort itself out.

In these contexts, I've never seen it actually be useful to upload additional times, upload a junk SVG, etc. - Jmabel ! talk 23:39, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

This has been reported here: phab:T330942 – Ammarpad (talk) 09:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! DigitalIceAge (talk) 22:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

authorship of a photo of a published book photo

I found in google images the book cover image of a book that I am co-author and I would like to post such image in a wikipedia page. Is that legal? Or should I make a photo of the book cover myself, since I have one exemplar with me? Thak you for your support. Valdemar José Correia Barbosa Rodrigues (talk) 01:10, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Valdemar José Correia Barbosa Rodrigues. If you're pt:Valdemar José Correia Barbosa Rodrigues, then you probably should take a careful look at pt:Wikipédia:Conflito de interesse before making any additional edits to the article. Generally, subjects of Wikipedia articles are considered to have a conflict of interest when it comes to editing content written about them on Wikipedia, but things might be different when it comes to Portuguese Wikipedia.

As for your question about taking a photo of the book, if you're the author of the book, then you could upload such a photo to Commons as long as you're the sole copyright holder of the book and whatever imagery appears on its cover. Please read Commons:Licensing because Commons will only be able to host such an image if you agree to make it avaiable under one of the free licenses that Commons accepts. If, on the other hand, others involved with the book (e.g. publisher, co-author) also can came copyright ownership over it, then you might need to get their COM:CONSENT as well for Commons to host the file. If you simply take a photo of the book cover yourself, then basically all you need to worry about is the copyright status of the book cover you photograph since you would be the copyright holder of the photograph. If, however, you try to upload someone else's photo, then it would depend on whether the other person's photo is a case of COM:2D copying. If it is, then you just need to worry about the copyright status of the book's cover; if it's not, then you will also need to consider the copyright status of the photo taken by the other person since it would be considered a derivative work. In short, it would probably be better to take your own photo of the book than to try and use other person's photo.

If it turns out the file is not suitable to be hosted by Commons, you could try to upload it locally to Portuguese Wikipedia as non-free content. Commons doesn't accept any type of fair use content as explained here, but Portuguese Wikipedia does seem to allow it per pt:Política de Isenção da Doutrina (PID). So, you will need to ask on Portuguese Wikipedia for details about its policy and whether it would allow you to add a non-free photo of your book to the Portuguese Wikipedia article written about you. For reference, such a thing isn't generally allowed by English Wikipedia, but Portuguese Wikipedia might have a non-free content use policy that is different from English Wikipedia's policy. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:37, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Many thaks! I«ll just put an external link to the book cover image that is hosted in a book sellers page, In that case there will be no poroblems, righy? Thaks you very much anyway, your answer was very useful and enlightening. 85.139.112.180 01:47, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

You will need to ask about adding an external link over at Portuguese Wikipedia. On English Wikipedia, for instance, such an external link would probably not be allowed, but Portugeuse Wikipedia policy on external links might be different than English Wikipedia's. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

what if the image i put in already is on the website?

help i think i am.. gong to jial Stoove Joobs (talk) 22:56, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Stoove Joobs: we rarely imprison users (at least outside of certain counties in Texas), but we have been known to block them. So far, you are in little danger of that.
• On the other hand, and most importantly: for the one and only photo you've uploaded so far: why do you think it is either public domain or free-licensed? My guess is that it isn't and we'll have to delete it.
• On the question in your headline: typically, if we find a duplicate image, we usually delete the newer upload (and turn its name into a redirect), although if the new upload is higher resolution, we will delete the older one instead; this also sometimes involves some editing of the file page of the one that is kept, if the version to be deleted has useful information that is missing from the one we are keeping. This is for exact duplicates; if (for example) they are from a different print of a film photo, we usually keep both. There are a few other subtleties, but I'm guessing that was as much of an answer as you need at this time. Please do try not to upload duplicates: when you do you are making work for someone else. - Jmabel ! talk 23:31, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

These are my works, what information do I need to add to confirm this?

These are my works, what information do I need to add to confirm this? Around the Worls (talk) 06:59, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Around the Worls. Maybe the first thing you should do is read Commons:Own work and then self-assess which of the files you uploaded are really your work. You might also want to take a look at Commons:Licensing because "own work" has a very specific meaning when it comes to intellectual copyright. For example, if you walk out your front door and take a photo of the clouds in the sky, then that photo is 100% your own work and you are the sole copyright holder because neither clouds or the sky are eligible for copyright protection per se. However, if you take a photo of something created by someone else (e.g. a painting, sculpture, store sign, building), then it's quite possible that whatever you're photographing is protected by copyright and that copyright is held by someone else. Depending on the specific circumstances, your photo might be considered to be a derivative work, which means there are two copyrights that need assessing: the one for your photo and the one for whatever you photographed. Of course, what I've posted is a very oversimplified explanation of things, but copyright laws can be quite tricky and they can also vary quite a bit from country to country. So many of your uploads seem to have been deleted, but if you feel that any which were truly 100% your own work were deleted by mistake, please list the names of the files here and someone might be able to help you sort things out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Also, I see COM:SCOPE issues. For example, it is hard to see the use of File:Thomas Cranmer Canterbury Cathedral Kent.png, a low-res image with a large quantity of text so small as to be illegible. - Jmabel ! talk 18:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Trying to upload pictures

@ Fishing 4 (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Fishing 4: you are going to have to be a lot clearer about what is going wrong for you if you need concrete help. You also might want to read Commons:First steps if you have not already done so. - Jmabel ! talk 18:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

is it okey if i upload my videos and photos with my firends and classmates?

is it okey if i upload my videos and photos with my firends and classmates? Adhambekbro (talk) 12:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Adhambekbro: If they have an encyclopedic value and not outside the scope of the project, you can upload them. Read Commons:FAQ for more informations.--Mehdi^Talk 12:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Really, though, probably not. Commons is not a repository for personal photos, and it is relatively unlikely that pictures of your friends and classmates are within Commons' scope. - Jmabel ! talk 18:27, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Adhambekbro: I assume many of them are in scope, as examples on the life of today's youth. Choose ones that you think are valuable from that perspective. There are of course personal rights issues, which you should clear with your friends. If you want to go forward with this, I am sure we are able to give further advice, such as suggesting categories for which such photos are needed. –LPfi (talk) 07:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect NJTransit Route icon colors

The background colors of the route icons for NJ Transit's Montclair-Boonton Line and Gladstone Branch are incorrect. The Montclair Boonton should be #E66B5B, and the Gladstone Branch should be #A2D5AE. The text of both files is correct and does not need to be changed. Unfortunately I am unsure how to go about correcting this. Courtesy ping @Jari Rauma: who fixed a similar issue last time. The Boston Railfan (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello @The Boston Railfan: I can change the colors, but first tell me where you got the right colors and why you want the colors changed. Best regards. Jari Rauma (talk) 10:06, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

The pictures are ready. I would like some kind of confirmation of the right colors before uploading the images. Have the colors of the lines changed? How did the uploader of the original images get it so wrong? – In the Gladstone picture, the HSB change was -4°, -17%, 56% and the green level was 0.97. In Montclair delta HSB: 22°, 41%, 40% and finally red level 1.05. Jari Rauma (talk) 11:55, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jari Rauma: See en:Module:Adjacent stations/NJ Transit. The Montclair Boonton Line is currently using the color code from the original ex-Erie Lackawanna Boonton Line, when in actuality the present-day NJT Montclair Boonton Line is a different service and has a different color. The Gladstone Branch color is currently exactly the same as the Morristown Line, which, although the Gladstone is a branch of the Morristown Main Line, is also incorrect as Gladstone trains are considered their own separate independent service. The Boston Railfan (talk) 16:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@The Boston Railfan: The photos are now uploaded. The reason for the unusual HSB change was that now the colors between the letters and the background are also correct. Please put the next possible request on my talk page. Jari Rauma (talk) 20:59, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

How to format names

Edward DeGroff formats the name this way. So I made a category Category:Edward DeGroff. But the actual files very: "Edward De Groff", "Edward de Groff".

• More information

How should the category name be formatted? Thanks, Krok6kola (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Krok6kola, It would seem their surname varies across the web so imho it should follow EN and be "Edward DeGroff" - I've changed their name on the EN article to match the article title and have told people to seek consensus first before changing, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 20:19, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

"Edward de Groff" is the spelling chosen by the creator of the article, Pcmcglew, on the basis of the signature of the subject [1], which, if correct, seems a reasonable basis. Davey2010 changed it today to "Edward DeGroff", although, per his rationale, his change should have seeked consensus. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

@Asclepias, I'll be honest I don't really care what surname is used and I don't care enough to start an RFC on it - I simply figured it made more sense for everything to be consistent and people can fight over it at the talkpage but yes strictly speaking I should've got consensus for it myself,

I only cared enough to change it yesterday as it related to Commons otherwise I really wouldn't have bothered, I don't edit EN much at all and the subject isn't of my interest so I would've left it to EN had it not concerned Commons if that makes sense, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

But to answer the question specifically it should stay as "Edward DeGroff" and if it gets moved in the near future then it can be moved here too, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 21:10, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

ca. indians

how do i find my Roll No.on the ca. indians 2603:8001:1E00:81EE:9C5D:5727:50D1:7F37 03:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

what is this im sorry? im not undertanding imaware of that 2603:8001:1E00:81EE:9C5D:5727:50D1:7F37 04:07, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

• This is a help page for using Wikimedia Commons (this site). If the above is somehow a question about that, I don't understand; please rephrase it more clearly. - Jmabel ! talk 04:20, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Himmelsrichtung beim Upload von Fotos

Habe zur Angabe der Himmelsrichtung beim Upload eines Fotos (soll numerisch sein) keine Eingabehilfe gefunden und deshalb einstweilen geraten und "270" (°) für "Westen" eingetragen. War ich zu ungeduldig beim Durchsuchen der FAQ's etc.? MKlockmann (talk) 15:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Kameraposition 270 entspricht tatsächlich West, 0 folglich Nord, 45 Nordost, 90 Ost, 135 Südost und so weiter. Angaben ohne Gewähr ;-) MKlockmann (talk) 15:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Commons Anmeldung über Wikipedia 20230301

Meine Anmeldung über Wikipedia https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Mayer40 wird von Commons https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Schalenstein_Kultstaette_Habring_Oberzeiring_-_Unzmarkt_20230228.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Mayer_Bruno#WIKIBILDER_BRUNO — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mayer40 (talk • contribs) 22:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC) nicht registriert? Eine Bearbeitung ist nicht möglich. [EMAIL ADDRESS REDACTED] Danke Mayer40 (talk) 22:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Ich verstehe nicht, was ist Ihre Frage? - Jmabel ! talk 23:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Ich versteh das Problem auch nicht. Bruno, ich sehe hier zwei Benutzerkonten, User:Mayer40 (letzter angemeldeter Edit gestern) und User:Mayer Bruno (letzer angemeldeter Edit 2022-10-19). --Achim55 (talk) 07:50, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Danke für die Reaktion. 1.) Bei der Bilddatei Ladung wurde automatisch ein neues Konto Mayer40 erstellt obwohl ich 2.) seit 2013 mit Mayer40 registriert bin, 3.) meine versuchte Neueinstellung ist gescheitert. Vielleicht kann mir bitte wer wieder den Zugang zu meinen 47 Bearbeitungen ermöglichen. Ich würde mich durch eine Spende wieder erkenntlich zeigen.

1.)

20:37, 1. März 2023 BenutzerkontoMayer40 Diskussionsbeiträge _wurde automatisch erstellt

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=&user=&page=User%3AMayer40&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist

2.)

Benutzername: Mayer40

Registriert: 22:43, 17. Apr. 2013 (Vor 9 Jahren)

Anzahl der Bearbeitungen in allen Wikis: 47

Anzahl der verbundenen Benutzerkonten: 6

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Mayer40

3.) Einstellung gescheitert

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences Mayer40 (Diskussion) (talk) 23:29, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Answered on User talk:Mayer40, please follow up there. --Achim55 (talk) 17:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Image infobox size

Hi, is there any way that I can arrange the images in consistent to each other to similar size especially on a comparitive article like an election article. For example: how do I arrange the images of the politicians in the infobox to a similar consistent size? Here:en:2014 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Assembly election (Please tag me when you answer) Thank you. 456legend (talk) 15:35, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Wikimedia Commons Query Service 175.100.15.243 16:01, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@456legend: What I can see, the images are the same size. The problem is that some are close-ups, while others include much more in addition to the face. One solution would be to crop all images to be similar in that respect (of course: upload under another filename). If the proportion of the photo that is face is the same, like-sized thumbnails will show the face equally large. –LPfi (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@LPfi: Okay so this should work ig. Thank you 456legend (talk) 05:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Not for use within an infobox, but the "packed" option on the <gallery> element can be useful for this. See Commons:Featured pictures/People for an example of using it well. Jmabel ! talk 05:44, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

pdf-Format und daraus generierte jpg

1) Kann man ein pdf File auf Wikimedia hoch laden?

2) Ist die Größe des pdf begrenzt? (Mein pdf hat 1,65 GB)

3) Kann man dann, nach der Veröffentlichung des pdf einzelne aus dem pdf erstellte jpg unter der selben Lizenz mit Nennung des Urhebers veröffentlichen? Naoag (talk) 10:35, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naoag: Yes, If your files comply with the commons copyright license, You can upload Your PDF files. About size limitation read this guide. --Mehdi^Talk 13:31, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Is it possible to publish individual jpgs created from the pdf under the same license with naming of the author?Naoag (talk) 15:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

YW. Yes. It is possible. Like photos in this category that Extracted from PDF file [2]. --Mehdi^Talk 15:55, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Naoag The size limitation guide seems a bit optimistic. In fact it is possible to upload files (pdf or other) with up to exactly 4.0GiB (4.294.967.296 Bytes). But most upload tools will not be able to do that. The UploadWizard will upload files of up to 600MB and sometimes 1.2GB. You can try the PDF with 1.65GB and may succeed, but you also may need to use a different tool. C.Suthorn (talk) 16:29, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you!Naoag (talk)

File Preview Not Updating

The previews (and file history thumbnails) for couple of files ([1] and [2]) I have uploaded are not updating. This is not an issue with browser cache because I have cleared it a number of times and the older version of the file shows in archived versions ([3] and [4]). The newer version did successfully upload because it appears correctly when viewing the original file and the correct version of the latter image appears in a Wikipedia article it is used in. In addition, if you use the animated history script to view an older version and then return to the most recent version, the preview correctly displays.

I found a previous discussion that appears to describe the same issue, but it didn't seem to be any particular help. Can any offer an explanation of what causes it or a solution for the issue? –Noha307 (talk) 18:47, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Noha307: it's still a caching issue of some sort, though; possibly not entirely on your end (though could you take a look with a different browser?) but likely to sort itself out over time. - Jmabel ! talk 21:02, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel: I just checked with Microsoft Edge and the preview for the first file has updated, but the second one has not. Odd. –Noha307 (talk) 21:09, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

  I'm actually having another strange issue at the moment. I just created a personal user category so I could use a template and used Cat-a-lot to add all of the images on my userpage to the category. However, cat-a-lot finds 608 images, but the category only list 607 after the transfer. Maybe it could be related in some way? –Noha307 (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Images de sceaux médiévaux sur Wikicommons?

Je souhaite mettre à la disposition du public plusieurs empreintes de sceaux et matrices conservés par les Archives municipales de Douai (France, département du Nord). comment faire? merci Vincent Doom Conservateur honoraire du patrimoine. 109.219.124.24 21:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Bonjour, «Comment faire ?» est une question beaucoup trop vague. Il faudrait préciser davantage ce que vous souhaitez savoir. Pour offrir des images sur Wikimedia Commons, en gros, vous commencez en créant des images numériques des empreintes, par la méthode qui vous semble la plus appropriée. Par exemple, ça pourrait être en prenant des photographies de bonnes copies des empreintes. Vous créez un compte sur Wikimedia Commons, si vous n'en avez pas déjà. Et vous téléversez vos images. Vous pouvez consulter la page Commons:Premiers pas/Téléverser des fichiers. N'hésitez pas à poser des questions plus précises si nécessaire. Vous recevrez peut-être plus rapidement des réponses en français en utilisant plutôt la page de discussion en français Commons:Bistro. -- Asclepias (talk) 22:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Category change

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:United_States_Minor_Outlying_Islands https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Minor_Outlying_Islands Both need the category "Dependent territories in North America" changing to "Dependent territories in the Caribbean" due to Navassa Island being in the Caribbean. Can it be done?TBAG654321 (talk) 22:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Help with adding pictures and content

Hello, I desperately need help in adding some content a photos to my father's page ( Charles S. Perry ). I ve read some of the tutorials, but I just can't comprehend what has to be done. Could you direct me to some more detailed info , or a number to call for more assistance. I am really desperate. Thank you for attention to this. Ross A.Perry RAPerry33 (talk) 00:50, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

@RAPerry33: You don't say what you've read. Have you read Commons:First steps? - Jmabel ! talk 02:00, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

You say you are editing a page about your own father. I presume that's a page on the English-language Wikipedia. Make sure you read WP:COI so that you do not get in trouble with en-wiki's rather strict policy about conflicts of interest. - Jmabel ! talk 02:00, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:GWI DU map.svg

I converted an old .gif file to SVG, so it is obviously a derived work. Can someone show me how to properly attribute / copy over the attribution? The original is File:GWI DU map.gif which was made by a US Government Employee.

Thanks. –Frank Geerlings (talk) 16:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

 Done

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AGWI_DU_map.svg&diff=prev&oldid=740412360&diffmode=source
• Also https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AGWI_DU_map.gif&diff=prev&oldid=740412978&diffmode=source

Jmabel ! talk 17:49, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for. – Frank Geerlings (talk) 20:28, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 21:48, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

"Collapse captions" vs. "Hide captions"

I would think that "Collapse captions" (vs. "Hide captions") should leave me some way to see the caption, but it doesn't. What am I missing? FWIW, using Monobook skin on Firefox. - Jmabel ! talk 19:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

• Is no one else seeing this behavior? Or is it just that no on can answer my question? - Jmabel ! talk 04:21, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
  • I do not understand your question. Do you mean the structured data? Ellywa (talk) 07:13, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: We have 3 gadgets in prefernces releted to captions. If ur question about collapse or hide captions u can see related talk pages and leave ur question in MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Collapse-Captions.js and MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Hide-Captions.css.--Mehdi^Talk 07:40, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Please leave ur problem (bug) in Commons:Village pump/Technical. Apparently, this page has been closed and no one is following up. :-( --Mehdi^Talk 07:55, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

BG Sarah K. Albrycht

Need the portrait of the USAMPS commandant on this webpage, Sarah K. Albrycht uploaded to Wikimedia Commons as a new version of BG Sarah K. Albrycht (if it looks exactly the same but of higher quality) or uploaded under the filename BG Sarah K. Albrycht (2) (if it looks different). It doesn't render on my end or load in Singapore, but it may for users living in the United States. SuperWIKI (talk) 07:15, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• @SuperWIKI: I'm in the U.S. and I can't see anything there either. If I go directly to the link of the image, there is nothing there, I just get a timed-out connection. - Jmabel ! talk 16:19, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

  Ok, then it's a site error. I've emailed the website admins to see if I can get the original file. Thanks for clarifying! SuperWIKI (talk) 16:33, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

I simply want to upload a picture of a historic house named Valley View in Bartow County GA (USA). I've logged in. Not clear to me where I go from here! where do I go?tions from

Valley View Bartow County Georgia USA Treborelbmag (talk) 17:00, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Treborelbmag: have you read Commons:First steps? - Jmabel ! talk 19:49, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Файлы Грустный Кофе

Прошу восстановить мои файлы. Разрешения авторов предоставил 1 неделю назад. Грустный Кофе (talk) 20:47, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Грустный Кофе: there's likely nothing anyone on this particular page can do for you. If this was about permissions granted via VRT, go to Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard. Otherwise, this needs to go through Commons:Запросы на восстановление. - Jmabel ! talk 00:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Portal not accepting files

Please tell me how to convert image and vedio format.

Regards Shivangi Khullar Shivangi Khullar (talk) 10:31, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Commons:File types has a list on supported file types, Commons:Video has some further detail on uploading videos. What file type do your files have? --rimshot^talk 16:14, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Como hago para cumplir con el compartir igual

Hola, quiero utilizar una foto de wikipedia para un libro, esta en CCO, con atribución y compartir igual pero hay algo que no entiendo. Si pongo la foto en el libro e identifico la foto con el nombre del autor ok, pero la parte de compartir igual no se como lo hago, que debo hacer para cumplir este requisito si pongo la foto en el libro? ¿Qué debo indicar en la leyenda de la foto para cumplir con lo requerido? gracias Valarana15 (talk) 12:04, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Valarana15: CC-0 no es "compartir igual", es más semejante al dominio público, así que estás confundido en algún punto. Por favor, ¿qué archivo (URL)? (Pregunto para poder ver la licencia.) - Jmabel ! talk

تصویر جواد نظری بازیگر و آهنگساز ایرانی

با سلام و احترام میخواستم بپرسم چرا تصویر بازیگر و آهنگساز و خواننده ایرانی جواد نظری را در لیست نامزدهای حذف قرار داده اید و اینکه اگر مدعی هستید تصویر وی ساختگی هست مستندی ارائه کنید در غیر این صورت با آبرو و حیثیت ایشون بازی نکنید و چهره وی را تخریب نکنید با تشکرSarasari69 (talk) 16:30, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sarasari69: با سلام. لطفا به تصویر یا صفحه حذف مورد نظرتان پیوند دهید. زیرا تصویری درتاریخچه بارگذاری‌ها و مشارکت های شما وجود ندارد. --Mehdi^Talk 16:54, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sarasari69:من نظرخواهی مربوطه را مطالعه کردم. درخواست حذف به درستی مطرح شده و دستکاری دیجیتالی در تصویر و استفاده از فتوشاپ کاملا محرز است. در صورتی که به تصویر بدون دستکاری دسترسی دارید، لطفا پیوند دهید. تصویری که از یک خبرگزاری یا سایت معتبر منتشر شده باشد، ارجح‌تر است.--Mehdi^Talk 17:19, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

[[امکان نداره شاید بخاطر تاریکی بودن محیط از جلوه ها استفاده شده باشه و تا روشنتر و واضحتر دیده شه یا اینکه اندازه شو برش داده باشند ولی اینکه در محتوای کلی تصویر دست برده شه میتونم قسم بخورم اشتباه محض هست اینو قاطع میگم چون خودم اونجا حضور داشتم و اینکه خود من نیز دعوت شده بودم در هر صورت چنانچه از نظر شما اشکال داره میتونید حذف کنید نظر شما کاملا محترمه من در کل منظورم این بود که خدایی نکرده اینجور موضوعات سبب نشه که چهره و شخصیت افراد دیگری که شاید روحشان هم خبر نداشته باشه از موضوع تخریب بشه و بد بشه براشون}}Sarasari69 (talk) 07:14, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sarasari69: من لیست برگزیدگان سی و هفتمین جشنواره موسیقی فجر را از دو خبرگزاری متفاوت مهر و ایرنا بررسی کردم و اصلا همچین نام و تصویری وجود خارجی ندارد. --Mehdi^Talk 07:25, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

You cannot overwrite this file.

I have an updated map for https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Campus_carry_map_of_US_states.svg , however it says I cannot overwrite the file. It it because my account is too new? Thanks! Nukey18mon (talk) 03:43, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

@Nukey18mon: Yes. Your account on Commons was only created a few hours ago. You need to be autoconfirmed to be allowed to overwrite files uploaded by other people. Your account will become autoconfirmed four days after it was created. --bjh21 (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

How to upload images

How to upload images Rc pictures (talk) 17:41, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

I recommend looking at the first steps, which includes details on what and how to upload. If you still have questions afterwards, feel free to ask. --rimshot^talk 21:32, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Konto löschen

Wie und wo kann ich mein Benutzerkonto löschen? Vielen Dank! Gepard120 (talk) 19:09, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Benutzerkonten können nicht gelöscht werden. Spricht etwas dagegen, einfach das Konto nicht mehr zu benutzen? --rimshot^talk 21:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

How can this be free or copyright and require a source notice

The object claims to be public domain yet it requires a source notice if you make modifications. I am confused. Please explain it to me. Thank you.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aztec_-_Mask_-_Walters_2009201.jpg Dwarfmajic (talk) 04:20, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

The objects themselves are PD because of age, but photographs of 3D objects get a copyright of their own, such as in this case, and the licence (with its licensing requirement) is for using the photo. –LPfi (talk) 08:56, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Also -- not applicable here, but just so you know -- in some countries moral rights of authors are separate from copyrights, and in those countries you still have to attribute work even after it has fallen into the public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 15:51, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Jmabel is exactly right.

I still think that the plethora of license tags on that page is a little confusing,so I made an edit request at {{Walters Art Museum license/3D}} suggesting it to be packaged into a {{Licensed-PD}} frame which explains this. Felix QW (talk) 22:53, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I just uploaded a signature, is it okey to be exist?

As title, the file I uploaded is File:Marcus Chang Signature.svg . It is extracted from an online pdf file. Anverleo (talk) 02:57, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anverleo: Looks fine to me. - Jmabel ! talk 03:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Who is the man in the picture

• 
  Matsugasaki Tsumunaga.jpg
• 
  Takeda Goichi portrait.jpg

These two photos look the same, but the captions point to different people: Matsugasaki Tsumunaga and Takeda Goichi. Need to check which one (or maybe both?) is wrong.-- Reke (talk) 08:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Pinging @Fraxinus2, the uploader. TilmannR (talk) 15:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Danke für den Hinweis. Matsugasaki war falch, nun korrigiert. Fraxinus2

Update Holaluz company logo

Hi, we contact you from Holaluz's Social Media Team. We would like to update our company's logo since the one currently appearing is an old version. [5] Holaluzcom (talk) 15:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Holaluzcom:

• You cannot overwrite Logo de Holaluz .png with Holaluz Logo RGB Gradient (1)-2.jpg, because one is a PNG and the other is a JPG. Files can only be overwritten with files of the same type.
• We usually don't overwrite historical versions of logos (see Commons:Overwriting existing files). This allows for the logo's change over time to be illustrated in the related Wikipedia article for example.
• JPG is a sub-optimal file format for this kind of logo. Optimally it'd be an SVG or at least a PNG.
• I edited wikidata:Q47170683 to contain the new logo and I edited es:Holaluz to use the logo from Wikidata.
• I'd like to know when you started and stopped using the various versions of the logo, so this information can be added to the file description.

TilmannR (talk) 15:53, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Derivative Work

Is this file sufficient different from this file as to not be considered a derivative work and be okay for use in article upload? User1042 (talk) 17:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

• Clearly no issue with the graphics, but that seems to me to be enough text, and original enough, to be copyrightable. - Jmabel ! talk 17:35, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

  Thank you for the help. By building on my previous modification of the header that left it only directly copying the last four words of the header I have reduced the text and punctuation copied to "birthday card is late I bought it late. I signed it late. I it late." I do not believe that further modification of the text is possible while still effectively communicating the same idea. User1042 (talk) 18:20, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Uploading a photo

Hello. My grandpa died recently and I'm trying to add his photo to wikipedia page. He was known politician and fighter against communism in Poland. Wikipedia for unknown reason blocks upload of his photo. Koizumi Chineko (talk) 20:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Who was the photographer? Ruslik (talk) 20:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Koizumi Chineko: There are two separate things going on here. Narrowly technically: if you upload from Special:UploadWizard rather than trying to cross-upload from Wikipedia, you'll almost certainly get around the technical problem. But Ruslik's question is very much to the point. Copyright belongs to the photographer, not the subject of the photo. - 01:15, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Indianapolis I-70-465 Interchange.jpg

The copyright is not disclosed on the website, making it an unknown license.

--Logic44YT (talk) 23:36, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

If you don't know the license, why do you upload the file? Anyhow, the copyright is quite explicitly stated at the website: ©2023 American Structurepoint - All Rights Reserved. Deleted. --rimshot^talk 23:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Logic44YT: when in doubt, assume everything you find on the Internet to be protected by copyright and act accordingly.

Put another way, anything published in the United States after March 1989 is protected even if it lacks a copyright notice. Since that includes the entirety of the history of the World Wide Web, websites don't have to have a copyright notice to garner protections in the United States. In this case at the bottom of the page though, it did. Imzadi 1979 → 00:04, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Publier la photo d'un tableau

En 2017, j'ai donné à l'église de mon village un tableau réalisé en 1952 par l'artiste Geo Condé. Geo Condé est mort en 1980. J'ai réalisé une photo de ce tableau et l'ai publiée sur un site qui m'appartient sous licence Creative Commons CC BY-SA 4.0. Il existe peu d'oeuvres de Geo Condé sur Wikipedia/Wikimedia et en tous cas aucun tableau. Puis-je téléverser ma photo du tableau ? https://photos.revestou.fr/picture?/geo-conde-1952/category/134-eglise_saint_christophe Katryne Katryne (talk) 07:28, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Katryne: Hi. Per Template:PD-France/en, you can not upload this file in commons. For more information read Commons:Œuvre dérivée. --Mehdi^Talk 07:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Katryne: Bonjour, Puisque Geo Condé est mort en 1980, ses oeuvres sont protégées par des droits d'auteur au bénéfice de ses ayants droits jusqu'au 31 décembre 2050 en France et dans plusieurs autres juridictions, ce qui implique que des reproductions, par photographie ou autrement, ne peuvent pas en être publiées sans l'autorisation explicite des titulaires actuels des droits d'auteur. Pour qu'une reproduction photographique du tableau puisse être hébergée avec une licence libre sur Wikimedia Commons, il faudrait obtenir des titulaires des droits d'auteur du tableau qu'ils offrent le tableau sous licence libre ou au moins qu'ils accordent leur autorisation explicite pour que cette reproduction photographique soit offerte sous licence libre. -- Asclepias (talk) 11:00, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Merci tous deux, j'ai bien compris. Katryne (talk) 16:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Перевірка файлів на ліцензію

як перевірити файл на відстуність, або наявність ліцензії? Dnttcm (talk) 11:31, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dnttcm: Are you talking about determining the license of files someone else has already uploaded to Commons, or files from a third party that you want to upload to Commons?

(via Google translate) Ви говорите про визначення ліцензії на файли, які хтось інший уже завантажив на Commons, чи файли третьої сторони, які ви хочете завантажити на Commons?

Jmabel ! talk 16:01, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Ті які я хочу завантажити, бо вже видалили чотири файли Dnttcm (talk) 08:59, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

If someone knowledgeable here speaks Ukrainian, please help out here!

That is complicated, especially since I know nothing about the particular files. The response is more complicated than I am comfortable working through with Google Translate, though you can put this through Google Translate and see if it is intelligible. In general:

• If you took the photos yourself, and if they are not pictures of someone else's copyrighted work, you can choose a license (typically CC-BY-SA-4.0) and offer it.
• Otherwise, unless either (1) the photos are already offered under an acceptable free license (which typically would be stated overtly on a page where they are posted on the Internet) or (2) you can convince the copyright-holder to offer them under a free license, you should not upload them to Commons.
• Most (certainly over 95%) of what you will find on the Internet is not free-licensed. (If it's very old, or is the work of certain governments -- details vary -- it might be public domain.) That means that most of what you will find on the Internet should not be uploaded to Commons. For this 95+% of material, it is not a matter of "picking the correct license." There is no "correct license." The material is copyrighted, and rights are reserved.
• If you found the pictures somewhere other than online, it is even less likely that they are free-licensed or in the public domain.

Jmabel ! talk 17:24, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Required image

Total of how many image will be uploaded??. 4157Dogs (talk) 03:50, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

• @4157Dogs: This makes almost no sense. Can you provide some context? And if some other language is easier for you than English, feel free to use that. - Jmabel ! talk 04:05, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Insertion de photos dans une page

Sur la page de Chassigny "https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassigny", la photo de la météorite "fragment de la météorite de Chassigny. (Muséum de Vienne Autriche)" ne s'affiche pas au bon endroit. Btournois52 (talk) 09:47, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Btournois52: Il faut demander de l'aide sur Wikipedia, et non sur Wikimedia Commons. Pour le français, voyez fr:Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux. Yann (talk) 11:36, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Delete two files

I accidently added two .jpg files instead of the .png files. How can I get them deleted? The are:

• File:Coat of Arms Diocese of Diocese of Superior, WI.jpg
• File:Coat of Arms Diocese of Diocese of Pueblo, CO.jpg

Thank You...Roberto221 (talk) 10:09, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Roberto221: These should be made as SVG, but are you sure that there isn't a copyright on these? Yann (talk) 11:40, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Yann: if Roberto is being accurate in saying he made these himself, then there is no copyright issue: the blazon can be copyrighted, but not a particular rendering of the blazon. And, yes, SVG would be better, but it doesn't mean JPG or PNG is unwelcome.

@Roberto221: if, on the other hand, these renderings are not your own work, they should be deleted and not reuploaded.

But back to your original question: for Commons' purposes, JPEGs are actually more useful than PNGs, because our rendering software does a better job of scaling them to whatever size they may be used in an article. If there are PNGs that look "cleaner", though (I say this because these renderings aren't particularly sharp), it would be good to upload those as well. And for both JPEGs and PNGs, we usually want the highest resolution available. Assuming these are your own work, what you uploaded is very low-resolution.

If you still want these deleted, they've been up less than a week and are not being used in any article, so you are within your rights to have the deleted. Just put {{subst:My bad upload}} on the respective file pages, and someone will delete them. - Jmabel ! talk 17:37, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

For pictures, JPEG is better, but for drawings like these PNG is better. Yann (talk) 17:39, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

why you keep reverting my changes though they're tight?

i have changes some real missed up mistakes about Azerbaijani language which i know much about and beside it's my own mother language. And what i changed was a real and big historical mistake made by Ideological iran's persian-nationalist(pan fars or Pan iranist) government. i worked a lot about that changing so please bring it back. thanks for answering. Arshia emd (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Arshia emd: You are on the wrong project and page. This is Wikimedia Commons, which is solely concerned about multimedia documents. For text articles, you need to ask on the Wikipedia of the language of your choice. Yann (talk) 19:01, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

graffitti

Can I upload pictures of all the graffiti art throughout my city? Upiintheaiir (talk) 19:06, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

No, you cannot. Ruslik (talk) 20:19, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@Upiintheaiir: The long answer: That depends on the city. Assuming that the graffiti artist hasn't explicitly provided a free license for their work and hasn't been dead long enough for the work to be released into the public domain (see Commons:Licensing policy and Commons:Derivative works), you can only upload graffiti from places where photographs of public artworks can be used freely (see Commons:Freedom of panorama). If your city is in the United States or in the United Kingdom, the answer is no. TilmannR (talk) 20:20, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Medicon Village.jpg

Hi, this media is a a free non copyright photo, provided from https://www.mediconvillage.se/downloadable-resources/ If needed, how do the company provide you with the free to use information? --MarcusRLindblom (talk) 20:25, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@MarcusRLindblom: the image may be in some way free to use, but it is certainly not "non copyright". I have no idea where you got the idea that there is no copyright for this photo. When you allow people to use your copyrighted material, you don't lose the copyright.

The source page https://www.mediconvillage.se/downloadable-resources/ does say "free to use," so you have a good chance of sorting this out with them, but unfortunately we need something more specific than that for Commons. In particular, we need an explicit indication that commercial use and derivative works are OK. There are several ways this requirement could be met:

• On the source page on their site, they could add the phrase "including commercial use and derivative works" after "free to use".
• On the source page on their site, they could add a specific license that meets those requirements, e.g. {{Cc-by-3.0}} or {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}}.
• They could go through the process described at COM:VRT to send us an email granting a specific license that meets those requirements, e.g. {{Cc-by-3.0}} or {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}}.

Jmabel ! talk 21:58, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Uploading current map of Sikkim, India

Hi! I would like to upload a map of the state of Sikkim, India on the Sikkim page under the Government and Politics - Subdivisions section. The list of districts was changed in 2021, so the map has changed, as well. The map is sourced from the Sikkim Government website: [6]https://sikkim.gov.in/DepartmentsMenu/information-technology-department/Maps%20showing%20location%20of%20various%20Government%20Infrastructures%20and%20Units/state-map-of-sikkim

The map will have to be converted from pdf to jpg first.

Is this permitted? Or do I need to take permission from the Government of Sikkim? Debsena (talk) 04:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Debsena: There is a copyright notice at the bottom of the page you linked, and no indication of a free license. I'm not at all expert on Indian copyright law, though. Is there some reason you think it would be in the public domain? - Jmabel ! talk 07:23, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

  You're right, Jmabel. I had missed the copyright notice altogether. My mistake! Debsena (talk) 16:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Are website screenshots allowed to be uploaded?

There is a page on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langmaker) that I figured could use a screenshot to help out the article a bit. I have a screenshot, and I've seen other pages upload screenshots (hell, Infobox website has its image field called "screenshot"). However, the upload wizard says that uploads of screenshots of software cannot be accepted without permission from the creators of it. I have two questions here, those being: 1. Are websites considered software in this case, and if so: 2. Does the fact that the website has been defunct for over a decade change if the screenshot is allowed to be uploaded? AlexChillOut (talk) 23:51, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

@AlexChillOut: It doesn't matter whether websites are considered software. It is vary rare when a website would not be copyrighted; about the only cases I can think of are some U.S. federal government sites, or sites that consist of material over a century old with almost no additional annotation.

The fact that the website has been defunct for over a decade is particularly inconvenient, because it probably makes it impossible (or at least extremely challenging) to contact the party who owns the copyright and get a free license from them. - Jmabel ! talk 02:21, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

I see, thanks for letting me know :) AlexChillOut (talk) 02:45, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

You could archive the website at archive.org and archive.today. if it is ten years old, it could be gone every moment. If it is helpful even if 10 years old, it should be archived. C.Suthorn (talk) 08:10, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Can I upload a photo of a famous person that I did not take and don't know who did, even though I'm authorized to use it by the photo subject?

The rules on uploading are quite fuzzy to me. I have this photo that my company tasked me with adding it to CEO's Wikipedia page. How do I go about doing so if I don't know who took the original photo? The photo 100% belongs to the company and the subject (CEO) has authorized its use. I'm a novice and this is a new account so my first time editing on Wikipedia and this was tasked to me by the CEO. Any help is much appreciated. Lshmais (talk) 09:01, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Lshmais. Generally, the person taking a photo is considered to be the copyright holder of the photo; in some cases, however, the photo might be a work for hire or the photographer might have otherwise transferred their copyright to someone else. Just based on what little information you posted above, it sounds like this photo shouldn't be uploaded to Commons unless the copyright holder can be determined and their consent can be verified in some formal way. Usually, this is done as explained here.

Finally, if you've been tasked by someone to make edits to English Wikipedia on behalf of the CEO or the company they represent, then you probably should take a careful look at this and this because you will need to comply with them if you're planning to edit or create content about the CEO on English Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:41, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

non free work question?

Hello, I would like to upload a correct version of my city flag, Elkhart Indiana. The flag design itself it public domain but the image was created by Masao Okasaki and found on a flag reference website (https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-in-ek.html). Cmcrabtr (talk) 12:18, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Cmcrabtr. What makes you think the flag is in the public domain? Are you just assuming that the flag must be in the public domain because it's a municipal flag? The term "public domain" has a very specific meaning when it comes to copyright law and something isn't automatically within the "public domain" just because it's "public" in nature. In the United States, works created by US federal government employees as part of their official duties are considered to be within public domain per US federal statues, but works belong to state, county, city or other local governments often aren't depending on the state. Indiana doesn't seem to be one of the states which has statutes on the books stating the works created by official government employees are in the public domain. Moreover, if you look at the City of Elkhart's official website and scroll all the way down to the bottom, you'll see that it says "All rights reserved". This doesn't necessarily mean the flag isn't within the public domain, but the city does seem to be claiming that its intellectual property is its "exclusive property" here. The site where you found the flag just hosts content uploaded by users; it's not the originator of the content and thus it can't claim any copyright ownership over the content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:50, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Structural formula in public domain

I would like to request clarification for what is stated in Template:PD-chem- are structural chemical formulas by default ineligible for copyright and thus in the public domain? Could I therefore copy a structural formula drawing (i.e. from here), and upload it to commons, with proper attribution. The example given here is not explicitly in the public domain.

Thank-you, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 19:06, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Edward-Woodrow: I can't access the linked page, so I cant judge whether there may be some creative aspect to the drawing. - Jmabel ! talk 19:40, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Ah, thank-you for pointing that out. I have fixed the link. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:00, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Edward-Woodrow: I'd make a pretty strong guess that is not copyrightable, but you might want to ask at Commons:Village pump/copyright where there is likely to be someone expert on this. - Jmabel ! talk 20:30, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Thank-you, I will ask there. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 20:32, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Alfred Verdross

Hello, I would like to one of the following images (or more than one) but I'm afraid they are covedere by copyright. Or are there any exception based on the fact that 1 to 4 are old images released by public institutions?

1. Bildarchiv der Österr. Nationalbibliothek
2. Uni Wien 1
3. Uni Wien 2
4. Uni Wien 3
5. Académie de droit international de La Haye

Gitz6666 (talk) 23:24, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

[7] should be ok: The photographer is named as Theo(dor) Bauer from Vienna, who died in 1931 (compare [8], also search at [9]), so the photo is in the public domain in Austria. The photo is also from 1927 and was presumably published then, so it is in the public domain in the USA as well. Which means the requirements of Commons:Licensing are met. The painting is still copyrighted (painter died in 1970), and the other photos don't have enough information to determine the copyright status. So best go with the one that is in the public domain. --Rosenzweig τ 00:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

[10] is the download link for that one. --Rosenzweig τ 00:06, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

That's great! thank you Gitz6666 (talk) 00:13, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Searching for text in image description pages if the text is the name of a template and a user

Trying to search for pages that contain Panoramafreiheit and Bwag does not show any results while there exists at least one. Did I use the search function the wrong way or is there a bug in the search feature ?
(For the reason to search for these keywords see also User talk:Bwag#Panoramafreiheit in German.) -- Juergen 86.111.154.70 17:33, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

• Seems to me it would be simplest to use VFC on User:Bwag's uploads and just make the relevant substitution. But it would probably be best if Bwag did this themself, since they may have taken photos in more than one country. Also, I believe you need to be logged in to use VFC. - Jmabel ! talk 17:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, he dit it himself.

But I would still want to know why the search feature did not find the relevant pages (before the change). -- Juergen 185.205.125.99 02:31, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure but here is a guess. You were searching for the name of a redirection in the wikitext but not displayed on the page. It would perhaps have been found by specifying a search with the prefix hastemplate. hastemplate:Panoramafreiheit Bwag. Or with the prefix insource. insource:Panoramafreiheit Bwag. You can't test it anymore with Bwag's files since they have removed that redirection from their files, but you could test it with the files of some other user whose files include that redirection. For details, you can see also this help page on Mediawiki. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Duda de como subir una imagen

Quisiera saber si la imagen que acabe de subir esta bien como la subí Socorro Oliveros.jpg ya que la saque de un perfil de Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/CaV26i3NpvD/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= 2004user (talk) 05:54, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience link: File:Socorro Oliveros.jpg - Jmabel ! talk 17:43, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

@2004user: No veo nada en la página de Instagram que indica la licencia {{Cc-by-2.0}} ¿Por que crees que al foto tiene esta licencia? - Jmabel ! talk 17:54, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Realmente no se, por eso quisiera saber como subir la imagen de forma correcta 2004user (talk) 00:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@2004user: Si la foto no tiene licencia libre, no existe "forma correcta". No es un problema formal. El problema es que solamente la persona que tiene los derechos del autor puede otorgar una licencia, y que no se permite archivarlo en Commons sin licencia. Por esta razón, la mayoría—la gran mayoría—de los fotos en el Internet no se deben subir en Commons. - Jmabel ! talk

YouTube and copyright

A new user is taking screenshots of Joey Carbstrong from YouTube videos and uploading them to WikiCommons, examples [11], [12], [13]. The listed license given is "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license." Is this correct? Forgive me but this is the first time I have seen YouTube screenshots uploaded under a CC license. I not familiar with the rules in taking screenshots from YouTube videos and uploading them to Commons. I would appreciate if an experienced user could comment if this is ok or not. Psychologist Guy (talk) 20:34, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, these videos are indeed under a free license at the source. License reviewed. Yann (talk) 20:56, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

@Psychologist Guy: about 5% (that's a SWAG) of YouTube content is free-licensed. Definitely something that has to be checked on a case-by-case basis. - Jmabel ! talk 21:49, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Very interesting, I did not know this before today, thanks for explaining. Psychologist Guy (talk) 22:55, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Logo Rename

I need to rename the logo, but earlier image was not uploaded by me, pleas help me to do it. Yestrackerinfo (talk) 15:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Yestrackerinfo: I have no way to know what logo you mean. Please see Commons:File renaming. - Jmabel ! talk 15:29, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Bild wird nicht korrekt angezeigt

Bei der verändert hochgeladenen Datei File:Mixed forest and clouds, southern siberia.jpg wird kein thumbnail abgebildet und in einigen Browsern wird das in Wikipedia eingebundene Bild nicht angezeigt. Kann jemand helfen? Fährtenleser (talk) 15:40, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Fährtenleser: Das Problem sollte sich mit der Zeit selbst lösen. Entweder die Server, welche die Thumbnails erzeugen, sind gerade überlastet oder es gibt irgendein technologisches Problem, um das man sich bald kümmern wird. Siehe auch Commons:Village_pump#Files_are_not_appearing. TilmannR (talk) 15:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay TilmannR, vielen Dank! --Fährtenleser (talk) 16:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Подтвердить авторство оригинальной работы

Подскажите, пожалуйста, как подтвердить своё авторство двух фотографий, использованных в статье в Википедии. Фотографии из моего семейного альбома сделанные мною и моим покойным отцом. Спасибо за помощь Anatoliy Mirovich (talk) 01:05, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

I assume that this is about File:Syuch E.V.jpg and File:Syuch Evgeniy Vasilevich.jpg. Unless I very much misunderstand what is written here in Russian, the claim of own work is unlikely, the dates are certainly wrong, the pictures are new enough to be still in copyright, and the issue is going to come down to whether Anatoliy Mirovich is heir to the relevant copyrights (or knows who is) and can license them. But I can't possibly explain that in Russian. Could a Russian-speaker please help out here? Thanks. - Jmabel ! talk 03:45, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I appreciate your response. I received a warning that these two files File:Syuch E.V.jpg and File:Syuch Evgeniy Vasilevich.jpg might be removed from Wikimedia. Apparently there is an issue with those two pictures of my father. I took these pictures of him in early 60s, they were in my family album. Then when I created a Wikipedia page, my daughter helped me to upload them into Wikimedia. I want to make sure everything is done properly and the images will be saved. Please if you can direct me step by step what I have to do, I would appreciate it. Thanks Anatoliy Mirovich (talk) 04:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anatoliy Mirovich: at this point, the simplest way to do this would be to go through the process laid out at COM:VRT. Also, especially for File:Syuch E.V.jpg: if you are in possession of the original photos, please scan them at a higher resolution. I'm sure part of why this was seen as suspicious was the extremely low resolution. Typically when we see this, it means someone just grabbed the picture off of the Internet and is falsely claiming "own work". - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabe: Hi, these pictures are pretty old (about 60 years) and not in a good condition. I made every effort to get the best scan of them. It have passed 5 years from that time when the Wiki page was created. And it was dedicated to the 90th anniversary of my father and at the same time my hammer throw coach. He would have turned 95 this year. But unfortunately he has not been with us for 30 years. Syuch E.V.was not just a great coach and teacher, but an awakener. He gathered young talented people from different parts of a huge country and made them not just a team but one family in which everyone's ready to devote his whole life to sports. It seems to us, all his students, that such a person is worthy to be known and remembered. Sorry for the long story. I hope and I believe we will fix the issue. Thank you for your time and help. Anatoliy Mirovich (talk) 03:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anatoliy Mirovich: OK, but I would guess that the people at VRT will wonder why, if you have the original, you cannot scan it at a higher resolution than that. In any case, you need to go the VRT route. - Jmabel ! talk 04:31, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabe: Thanks for the prompt response. I will try to scan the pictures again. What I have to do after - to reupload new photos, to remove the old ones? And what is VRT route? Anatoliy Mirovich (talk) 04:41, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anatoliy Mirovich: Near the bottom of the file should be an "upload new versions" link. Use that to upload the new version. But definitely please proceed with VRT, and mention the file names. If you don't move on that front, the current images are likely to be deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 15:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Ah, now I see that they already have been deleted. Proceed with VRT, but it may get more complicated because you didn't do that before the images were deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 15:49, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Not upload photos and not send file . Some block massage received.

K Not upload photos and not send file . Some block massage received. Dholua (talk) 12:41, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dholua: it is not clear what you are asking. If there is some language where you can express yourself better than in English, please feel free to use it here. - Jmabel ! talk 16:03, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dholua: It would also help if you copy the block message. However, the two files you have uploaded, File:Mujhe school nahi jaana.jpg and File:“ Mujhe School nahi jaana “ Hindi feature film , Story & Directed by Nipon Dholua.jpg are hardly your own works, and you need permission from the copyright owners to license them as cc-by-sa-4.0. –LPfi (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Removing an old logo from Wiki commons

My company has updated its logo and I am recommending that the old version in Wiki Commons be removed as it is no longer accurate. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Auticon_logo.jpg

What is the best approach to remove this logo? Dreevewiki2016 (talk) 23:08, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Dreevewiki2016: You can't. History is history. If it is an accurate representation of your company's former logo, then it still belongs here. You can add the new one (assuming that it is either simple enough to be exempt from copyright, or the company is willing to free-license it in copyright terms while retaining trademark), and you can then use the new one in (for example) Wikipedia, but you cannot remove the old one. - Jmabel ! talk 04:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Create a Wikipedia page for client

My client asked me to upload a Wikipedia page for him what do I need to do that? Thank you Keri Ann KimballEnt (talk) 03:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• @KimballEnt: You are not on Wikipedia here, you are on Wikimedia Commons. But assuming you mean the English-language Wikipedia, the first thing you want to do is to read en:WP:COI, because if you are working on a paid basis with a client and you don't abide by some very specific rules, you will almost certainly be blocked from editing Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 04:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Airline's new logo question

Hello, recently an airliner in Japan changed its logo [14]. It is also shown in their home page here and I am thinking of uploading this found on the bottom of the 2nd link. Will this violate the copyright for the airline? Layah50♪ ( 話して～! ) 04:03, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Layah50: That's right on the edge of whether it is complex enough to be copyrighted or not. Rules vary for different countries (based on their copyright laws). You would probably do better to ask this question at Commons:Village pump/Copyright where there is more specific expertise. - Jmabel ! talk 04:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

  Ok, thank you! Layah50♪ ( 話して～! ) 04:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Why can't I see some images?

Some thumbnails with variable problems

This png pf 301 kb. Cant be seen in my uploads page. Can be seen in the cat page.

This png of 422 kb. Cant be seen in my uploads page. Can be seen in the cat page.

This png 314 kb. Can see it in the cat, but not in the infobox. Cant be seen in my uploads page.

This png 321 kb. Can be seen in the cat, but not the uploads page.

This png 396 kb. Can be seen in the cat and the infox and wikipedia. Not seen in the uploads page

This jpg of 47 kb. It can be seen in the cat but not in the infobox. Cant be seen in my uploads page.

Another jpg 32 kb, Cant be seen in my uploads page.

Very inconsistent, is there a fix for this? Broichmore (talk) 10:58, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Broichmore: it's a current known problem, and apparently pretty widespread (you are one of maybe a dozen people who have reported it, which I'm sure means hundreds have experienced it. So far there is no fix or workaround. - Jmabel ! talk 15:51, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Okay, just thinking if they were to run through GIMP and uploaded from there, I'll try it later. Broichmore (talk) 15:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Add pictures to wiki common from pinterest

I want to add a singer's photo to his page, but I found good pictures from pinterest and instagram. I didn't take those pictures. I tired to upload but it isn't accepted in the description page. How can i add them? Can you help me? Emelinyo (talk) 11:24, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Who is the singer, and provide a link to a sample picture you want to upload. You need to prove the image is in the public domain. Broichmore (talk) 12:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Emelinyo: Most content on Pinterest & Instagram is neither in the public domain nor free-licensed, so should not be uploaded to Commons. If you don't know what I mean by that, read COM:LIC and probably en:Public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 15:53, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Seeking Permission for using a Chinese map

Hello,

I would like to ask for permission from (Image: Yug via Wikimedia Creative Commons) to use the Chou China map for my book on Chinese history. Thank you. Happy wander (talk) 22:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Happy wander: It is an unclear question, but I guess it may be about some map by User:Yug. Normally, you can just follow the instructions of the licence of the file and, if you do that, you don't need a more special permission. But, if you want a special permission, you can contact Yug on the page User talk:Yug. -- Asclepias (talk) 23:11, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright question for Chilomonas@SciELO.jpg and Ploeotia@SciELO.jpg

Hello,

This is concerning message

User_talk:Ernsts#File:Chilomonas@SciELO.jpg

Please check copyright note at bottom of source site

doi:10.1590/1519-6984.218742

https://www.scielo.br/j/bjb/a/tw38Q9XFx7sFYX4S4bFM9Kf/?lang=en

which is linked to

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

For this reason there should be no problem at all.

Please let me know if there are any further questions.

Thanks in advance. Ernsts (talk) 18:51, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• It looks like the person who nominated this for deletion reverted themself within a minute. Not currently nominated for deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Imagem desenvolvida no Inkscap

Não consigo enviar uma imagem que criei no Inkscape AnjodeFerro (talk) 05:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Image developed in Inkscap I can't upload an image

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I created in Inkscape

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 10:06, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

@AnjodeFerro: Olá, seja bem-vindo. Por favor veja Help:SVG/pt e talvez pergunte em Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop.

Hi, and welcome. Please see Help:SVG/pt and perhaps ask at Commons:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 10:06, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Trouble with a download not working

Hi, I downloaded an image last night. It displayed normally. This morning it's showing a "broken" icon. I don't know why? The image is: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:George_Moffatt.jpeg Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:16, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Stangely, only some sizes, e.g. 405x599 px, do not display File:George Moffatt.jpeg, whereas other sizes display correctly. There is a similar problem with File:Benjamin Holmes.jpeg, not dispaying 319x480 px and 510x768 px. Maybe it's temporary. -- Asclepias (talk) 12:56, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I was starting to think I was dreaming. Both came from the Musée McCord-Stewart. I don't know if that's the source of the issue? Is there a way I can put a command in the infobox so it will display correctly? Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 00:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

They look all right on my screen, I can see them in your upload pages and the cats. However the Wikipedia image of Holmes is broken. Also it wont show in Wikidata, but it does show in the commons infobox I just created. Rechecked this statement of mine over 5 minutes and no change to Holmes, then 6 minutes later the image can be seen everywhere. Broichmore (talk) 11:20, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz: It looks like the problem is, or was, encountered with many files by many users. So, the problem is not with the source nor with your uploads. It looks like your files mentioned above now display correctly. -- Asclepias (talk) 12:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Asclepias: @Broichmore: Thanks. I find Wikimedia Commons very confusing to use (I'm not tech-savvy), and thought I'd broken it. Glad it's working now. Have reinserted the image on the George Moffatt page. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 15:20, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

File:Greta Thunberg (Music composed by elduendesuarez AMRS Sgae 60.142).wav

OoS? CopyVio? - The file was uploaded with 8 wrong categories. In the past large numbers of random categories have been a sign of copyvio. However I have no idea about this audio file?? C.Suthorn (talk) 12:58, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience link File:Greta Thunberg (Music composed by elduendesuarez AMRS Sgae 60.142).wav. - Jmabel ! talk 15:26, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Elduendesuarez: let's start with the copyright issue. Elduendesuarez, is Greta Thunnberg's contribution to this free-licensed, and if so where is that license documented? - Jmabel ! talk 15:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel: This file doesn't contain any of Greta Thunberg's speeches and as far as I know she is neither a composer nor a pianist. It's plausible that she doesn't have any contribution to this at all.

File:Julio Pardo (Music composed by elduendesuarez AMRS Sgae 60.142).wav sounds like an abridged version of Chopin's Waltz in E minor, so I wouldn't be surprised if more of these uploads turn out to be derivatives, but they don't sound familiar to me.

I don't see the educational value in these uploads. TilmannR (talk) 16:54, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Claiming having composed some of Chopin's works is a no-go. User warned. Yann (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't have time to listen to this and presumed it was one of the many musical settings of one of her speeches. - Jmabel ! talk 17:42, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

It is an original piano piece composed in homage to Greta; that is why it bears her name. Elduendesuarez (talk) 16:44, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

@Elduendesuarez: why do you believe this content is within Commons' scope? - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

elduendesuarez has limited himself to altruistically sharing some of his original works with the entire Wikimedia Commons community for a decade; both his photographs, illustrations, as well as original musical compositions and unique experimental music pieces (some inspired by classical pieces in the Public Domain, using artistic creation techniques based on the reinterpretation and variation of fragments with another message or artistic sense, or through techniques of varied sound exploration... etc), as well as performances of piano pieces of the classics of all time, as a work of pedagogical dissemination of music history. The rest of the author's original work, his songs and other discography of more than 30 years of career, cannot be obtained under a W.Commons license since they are part of official catalogs of publishers, labels and authors' societies. Elduendesuarez (talk) 15:56, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Do you speak of yourself in the third person? Or are you a representative or fan of Elduende Suarez? C.Suthorn (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Error in uploading new version of a file

I am getting this error message, and the site will not perform my upload operation:

Request from 50.49.179.231 via cp1083 cp1083, Varnish XID 657495872 Error: 503, Backend fetch failed at Wed, 15 Mar 2023 17:26:41 GMT

Indefatigable2 (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Indefatigable2: does this happen using Commons:UploadWizard or some other method of uploading? Does it happen consistently? - Jmabel ! talk 01:24, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  On this page: (https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=U.S._Marine_Staff_Sgt._Albert_L._Ireland%2C_Report_of_Separation_NAVMC_78-PD%2C_Serial_No._364663.jpg&wpForReUpload=1) It has happened consistently for the last few days. After the upload fails, I get a page that reads: "Our servers are currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical problem. Please try again in a few minutes." Indefatigable2 (talk) 02:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Indefatigable2: Please see mw:How to report a bug.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 09:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Use of scanned family photo

I am writing an article on a notable person and I want to include a photo. I have an image of the person that was taken in the 1970's by an unknown colleague and scanned from a family photo album. Is this allowed? If so, what is the appropriate copyright selection? Squasha4416 (talk) 14:26, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Squasha4416: unfortunately, no. Copyright would belong to the photographer (or their heirs) and if you don't know who that would be, you have no way to ask them to grant a license. - Jmabel ! talk 15:07, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  Got it, thanks. If I figure out who took the photo, but they have since passed away (which is a distinct possibility), is the photo still not usable? Squasha4416 (talk) 15:22, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  I have a feeling you will tell me I need permission from their heirs. What does that process look like? Do I need some sort of letter? Does the caption have to be something specific? And what is the copyright selection in that case? Squasha4416 (talk) 15:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Theoretically the heir can take an account and do the upload themself using a license like {{Cc-by-sa-4.0-heirs}}, but when they have no other contributions those are a little hard to trust, so probably the best bet is for them to go through the COM:VRT process. Or, if they have a publicly viewable web presence that is clearly them, they can post the image to that site or page and indicate the relevant license there; you can then cite it as a source. Examples of this last would be (1) their own web site, (2) a public post on their Facebook account, (3) a Flickr account that is clearly them. - Jmabel ! talk 15:59, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

    Wonderful. All great info. Thanks for the help!! Squasha4416 (talk) 16:06, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Замена фото

Здравствуйте ! Подскажите как на странице поменять фото??? Kinoshka (talk) 20:34, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

@Kinoshka: Какое фото, на какой странице? - Jmabel ! talk 21:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

Image Poster Copyright

The image is supplied by venom media and is allowed to be on here, the wrong license was selected Journeditzsk1001 (talk) 03:21, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Journeditzsk1001: What image are you talking about? We have somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 million files on this site. - Jmabel ! talk 03:50, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Journeditzsk1001: Hi, and welcome. Assuming this is about File:Outlast.png, how did you get a free license for that movie poster from Venom Media or Nathan Owens? Please have the copyright holder send permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. Also, any png image will look fuzzy when scaled down (due to design decisions discussed in phab:T192744) or jaggy when scaled up, so you may want to upload an svg or jpg version, too. If you can't get a compliant license, the image may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F because we don't allow Fair Use here.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 02:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Uploads

How do you upload? P.S. No @Jmabel! Last time he replied to me it took me about 5 days to calm down. Turnup44 (talk) 14:23, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Turnup44: The Commons:First steps tutorial is probably the most beginner-friendly way to start uploading. TilmannR (talk) 18:25, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@TilmannR, Thanks. If U know anything else, please let me know. Turnup44 (talk) 21:29, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Vídeos

como deletar arquivos de vídeos baixados? Milton Ferraz Costa (talk) 16:17, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

@Milton Ferraz Costa: Si Vd. lo cargó en los últimos 7 días y no se usa en ningún lado, simplemente puede marcarlo con {{speedydelete|G7}} y se eliminará. De lo contrario, debe designarlo para su eliminación como cualquier otro archivo, y tendrá que ser discutido. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Muito obrigado! Você é a primeira pessoa que me ajuda na Wikipédia! Milton Ferraz Costa (talk) 19:09, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Mistake in categories

Hello, I don't know how to go about it, but it is necessary to change the following category and its sub-categories: Category:Ferdinand II of Aragon (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores). The king depicted is not Ferdinand II of Aragon; it is Juan II of Castile. This is explained in this website (near the bottom of the page), also in this journal, p. 127, also here, figure 41, pp. 59-60. Many thanks, Maragm (talk) 16:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, the Category:Isabella of Castile (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores) is also wrong, which, as can be seen in the attached bibliographical references, is not about Isabel II of Castile, but about Queen Isabel of Portugal (her mother). Thank you so much! 89.7.243.95 17:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience links: Category:Ferdinand II of Aragon (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores), Category:Isabella of Castile (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores).

Proposed names: Category:John II of Castile (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores), Category:Isabella of Portugal (1428–1496) (Main altarpiece of the Cartuja de Miraflores), with parent categories changed accordingly. If there are no objections within 24 hours, I'll move them accordingly. - Jmabel ! talk 21:56, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I think that's fine and correct. Thank you, --Maragm (talk) 08:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

I've handed this off to User:CommonsDelinker, and it will be attended to. - Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Help with getting my site back up and running

Hi , How can I get this page back up and running? I created this page for educational purposes and never used any form of writing or wording to indicate I am promoting or selling a product. I used this to inform individuals of an artist, for credibility purposes, not advertising? What do I need to do moving forward? Alexia Amarsh10 (talk) 21:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Amarsh10: Assuming you are referring to File:Nod Head Records - Logo Headphones Blue OuterGlow Web.png, it is hard to imagine a non-promotional reason for that image. - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabelis it the image itself or the wording? My intention is not to promote this, just using it for credibility purposes. I will reread the you sent and try to align it better with wiki commons guidelines. Thank you! Amarsh10 (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Basically, the image. Normally, we host logos only if the entity in question is notable; the only reason this seems to be here is to promote a non-notable record label. If someone establishes notability for the record label, that would be a different matter. - Jmabel ! talk 15:32, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

• And if you are referring to en:User:Nodrecords101/sandbox (on the English-language Wikipedia), all the more so. Plus the very fact that you refer to it as "your site" confirms this.
• I strongly recommend you read en:WP:COI. Jmabel ! talk 22:52, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Amarsh10: Stop spamming.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 09:54, 16 March 2023 (UTC)

طريقه رفع ملفات

licensed-image (4) Mario Lahm (talk) 08:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

كومنز:الخطوات الأولى. - Jmabel ! talk 15:34, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Jean Allemand

Comment peut on intégrer des photos de mes réalisation sur Wikipedia dans la fiche qui m’est consacrée. d’avance merci jean Allemand Jean Allemand (talk) 08:56, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jean Allemand: Bonjour,

Vous pouvez confirmer par email que vous êtes bien fr:Jean Allemand. Voyez COM:VRT/fr pour la procédure. Merci pour votre participation. Cordialement, Yann (talk) 09:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Cat-a-lot

Is there any way to add more than one category at once with Cat-a-lot? RodRabelo7 (talk) 18:09, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@RodRabelo7: No, sorry.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:57, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

What file formats are accepted?

Is there a list somewhere? Herreshoffian (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@Herreshoffian Hi! I think Commons:File types is what you're looking for. Best, —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

George Jones

Someone has George Jones listed as buried in Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Nashville, Tennessee. He is buried in Woodlawn Memorial Park at 660 Thompson Lane Nashville TN 37204. I have pics & I have been to his grave. Someone has made a mistake. I hope it can be corrected. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:George_Jones_Grave_Monument.jpg 2600:1702:1230:C6A0:80AF:DC8A:99C0:DB44 23:27, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Pinging @Caustin021 as uploader of File:George Jones Grave Monument.jpg.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 23:55, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Uploading errors last 24 hours

Has anyone else had any trouble uploading images lately? For the last 24 hours, all of my attempts have failed. I get this error message:

Our servers are currently under maintenance or experiencing a technical problem. Please try again in a few minutes. See the error message at the bottom of this page for more information.

And then down at the bottom of the page this information:

Request from [my IP] via cp1087 cp1087, Varnish XID 37239686 Error: 503, Backend fetch failed at Sun, 19 Mar 2023 12:01:14 GMT

I'm on Windows 10 using Firefox 111. (I tried with Edge too, just to make sure it wasn't a browser issue. But no luck there either.)

Thanks for any advice. Choliamb (talk) 12:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

What Upload Tool (Upload Wizard?), what file size? Do the failed uploads show in the Uplaod stash? My uploads do work without error. C.Suthorn (talk) 13:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I use the Classic Upload Form, because I'm comfortable with wikitext and many of my photos are of museum objects for which I copy and paste a lot of reptetitive information, including institution templates, accession numbers, dimensions, references, double permissions for object vs. photo, etc. The file I've been trying to upload is a 5.6 mb jpeg, and it doesn't appear on my upload list after the error message. Choliamb (talk) 13:29, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I just tried a couple of other photos to make sure it wasn't something funky about the image file itself. But still no luck. Choliamb (talk) 13:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

And I tried with the Upload Wizard as well, just to see if that made a difference. It didn't. Choliamb (talk) 14:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I've found and solved the problem. It was at my end, and it wasn't specific to the Commons; it was just more noticeable here than anywhere else because it seriously compromised my upload speeds, and this was the only site where I was trying to upload files of any size. Cheers, Choliamb (talk) 23:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Gerçek bir Kullanıcıyım nasıl robot olmadığımı botunuza emin oldurabilirim şaşırdım

Konuda bahsettiğim gibi Psikolog1 (talk) 12:21, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm a real User I'm confused how can I assure your bot that I'm not a robot

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As I mentioned in the

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 20:04, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

@Psikolog1: Merhaba ve hoş geldiniz. Lütfen Special:Captcha'ya bakın.

Hi, and welcome. Please see Special:Captcha.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 20:04, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Massachusetts State Representative Marcus S. Vaughn.jpg

Source:https://malegislature.gov/Legislators/Profile/MSV1/District Unsure what to properly cite image under. This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was a Commonwealth of Massachusetts public record disseminated by a Commonwealth agency or the Massachusetts Archives. Massachusetts' Secretary of the Commonwealth has stated that such works can be copied and used for any purpose. This copyright does not extend to those records created, received, or under the custody of municipalities by M. G. L. c. 66, § 7, unless otherwise stated, nor does this apply to copy-written materials for commercial purposes received by employees of the Commonwealth. --AxisandAlloys (talk) 16:53, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

• @AxisandAlloys: I'm not at all sure a photo qualifies as a "public record." There would probably be more expertise on this at Commons:Village pump/Copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 17:35, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

@AxisandAlloys: Hi, and welcome. Please use {{PD-MAGov}} in the Licensing section.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 18:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! AxisandAlloys (talk) 18:56, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

@AxisandAlloys: You're welcome!   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 21:32, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Image preview is wrong?

I have uploaded a new version of an image but the preview images are not well generated: File:Gloriette Schönbrunn Wien (Inschrift) HighRes.jpg. For example, 1024x397 is working but 640x248 does not but Zoom viewer does display the correct image.

How can it be fixed?

Ritter vom Hohen Fels (talk) 14:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ritter vom Hohen Fels: looks fine, probably just a caching issue. - Jmabel ! talk 16:12, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

No, it's not fine. Please compare: 2560x994 is correct but 640x248 is wrong. I have tried different browsers and all have the same result. Ritter vom Hohen Fels (talk) 15:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ritter vom Hohen Fels: How is it "wrong"? They look identical for me, except for scale. Again, I believe you have a caching issue. Could you please try looking at these with a different broswer? I see, you have. Could you say how it's "wrong"? - Jmabel ! talk 16:39, 21 March 2023 (UTC) 17:01, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Geoff Lord

Hi I'm trying to upload Geoff Lord's image via the Wikimedia Commons upload Wizard and it's saying that it's a duplicate. The original image was not accepted so I'm unsure how to delete the original image so the one I am trying to upload is no longer a duplicate? Fairlight6 (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

@Fairlight6: Not sure what you mean by "not accepted". You might want to expand on that.

You seem to have successfully uploaded File:Geoff Lord.jpg almost a week ago. Is this a different image?

File:Geoff Lord.jpg will probably be deleted soon if you don't provide appropriate licensing information. If it is truly your own work as you stated, all you need to do additionally is offer an appropriate license (and preferably add categories). Please do so! I recommend {{CC-BY-SA-4.0}}.

Please do not upload a duplicate of File:Geoff Lord.jpg. If it gets deleted before you get around to clarifying license, go through the Commons:Undeletion requests process. If you are trying to upload a different photo, do make sure it is properly licensed. Also if you are trying to upload a different photo, usually most warnings about duplicates (1) link to the duplicate file and (2) allow an "upload anyway" choice. Did that not happen? If not what upload method are you using (cross-wiki from Wikipedia, Commons upload wizard, etc.)? - Jmabel ! talk 04:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Good morning

Good morning, there is a person named Faisal, without any reasons, who showed the pictures of my work and my frying pans, and they do not have copyrights. What is the reason that he puts them in the deletion record? What is the reason why he does What is the reason that he does not put them in the deletion record? What is the reason and why does he do this? Please respond and benefit, and a note on Wiki Commons for all contributors, not for a specific person, as he works hard in people. Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 06:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Good afternoon. I understand that English is probably not your native language (it's not mine either). However, I still struggle with understanding your issue. Perhaps try to write in your native language, we can at least use Google Translate or another AI based translation tool. It's not perfect, but it may still yield a better result. Please do not take this as an insult, I appreciate you're trying to communicate in English, as majority of people here speak English. But it obviously doesn't really work in this case. That also applies to the short message of yours down below. As far as I understand it, you have issues with someone who used your copyrighted work without your permission? For that, we have an official policy. Obviously one cannot simply claim copyright, they have to proof it and they have to provide a valid reason for deletion. See COM:L for more informations about licensing on Commons. Polda18 ^D _C 11:21, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

@Polda18: it looks like Faisal has nominated a bunch of User:Jimmy Yelzer's uploads for deletion as "out of scope" with no further explanation. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these uploads have copyright issues, and they certainly have meaningless categories (and dubious descriptions), but having looked at a few of them it seems likely that if they don't have copyright problems and if they were to be well described, they'd be in scope. I'm about to head out the door right now, but someone may want to look into this further. - Jmabel ! talk 15:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

That's interesting. Without an insight, I can't figure this out. However, now that you menton that, it seems like the reason behind the nomination may be language barrier, as poor categorization and description, and the way Jimmy talks, may suggest some kind of language barrier preventing them from explaining their ideas properly. Polda18 ^D _C 18:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

This is my

This is my own work, and I imagine it with a mobile phone holder. I love writing articles and photographing famous places. I support this. They cannot have copyrights Please advise and read again. I am sorry for the prolongation and for your trouble with me. Thank you very much. I am upset that my tiredness is going to waste. Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 15:21, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Jimmy Yelzer: You saying, "They cannot have copyrights" suggests that you are at least a little confused about how copyright works. If they are your own work, presumably you hold the copyright. You need to hold the copyright in order to grant a CC license. - Jmabel ! talk 16:44, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
• Pictures you take are yours - but if you take a picture of another picture made by someone else, the copyright still belongs to them, not you. See Commons:Derivative works. This includes pictures on television. I hope this answers your question. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 17:02, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Issue with replacing SVG image

Hello, a while ago I've uploaded this line-up, but recently a user pointed out a mistake in the line-up (Ferrari should be replaced with Ferraris). So, I've downloaded the file, edited it accordingly, and uploaded it back again as a new version of the same file. However, as you can see from the file history, the new file that I've uploaded appears exactly the same as the original file (with Ferrari in the line-up). So, I went back to check the file, making sure to have Ferraris in the line-up, but now I can no longer upload it (neither as a new version of the same file, nor as a new file) because the system warns me that the file I am trying to upload is exactly the same as the current file at File:ITA-ESP 1934-06-01.svg. Can someone please point out what I am doing wrong? Thanks, Tanonero (talk) 22:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Cache persistence. Purge and retry after waiting. Or view in another browser. Happens to the best of us. Elizium23 (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, that worked a charm. --Tanonero (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

erreur de photo sur article

Bonjour je souhaiterai remplacer la photo apparaissant avec la description d'une personne.. Par la bonne! Bu2002 (talk) 14:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

1. @Bu2002: since you don't say what article and what photo, it's hard to give you concrete help.
2. Are you talking about using a photo that is already on Commons, or do you want to upload a new photo? - Jmabel ! talk 15:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

   J’ai reussi! Merci Bu2002 (talk) 15:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by: Jmabel ! talk 17:34, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

POTD like Template

Like how the Picture of the Day template works, is there a template or code I could add to my user page which would automatically update each day to show a different photo from my upload gallery? Thanks and have a good day! DiscoA340 (talk) 19:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

PODT template just transcludes the subpage corresponding to a specific date. All such subpages need to be created manually. Ruslik (talk) 19:56, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

A robot could theoretically create that subpage automatically, or a module could be used for this. I don't really need this feature, but I did think of including a gallery on my user page. Polda18 ^D _C 06:49, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Published media on talkptage

Hi, I've added the {{Published}} template at File talk:Arriva Kent & Surrey GN04UDJ, Chatham Bus Station, 17 January 2018.jpg however it's showing [] so I'm guessing I've done something wrong but cannot figure out what so didnt know if anyone could help
Many thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 01:05, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Davey2010: You used "authorlink" for a URL, but I believe it's only for a Wikipedia article. - Jmabel ! talk 04:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel You are amazing thank you for your help, Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 14:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Question about random image on user page

Like how to make an image template or photo album today, is there a template or code that I can add to my user page that will automatically update each day to show a different image from my upload gallery Can you explain this to bypass copyright and how and how to keep images protected? Thank you Jimmy Yelzer (talk) 06:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

What do you mean by "bypass copyright"? If you edit at commons you have to obey copyright. And what do you mean by "keep images protected"? Images are protected by copyright. --C.Suthorn (talk) 06:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Lego sets

I have lego sets that I own and built. Is it OK for me to take pictures of them and upload to Commons? Marques.jpf (talk) 13:31, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

If you built them according to the attached blueprint, then the design is Lego's, not yours. If the sets are very old, then the orignal copyright may have expired. If you built your own designs (with reasonable complexity), then the design of the the Lego bricks is de minimis and you can upload your photos. There may be other parts of the legal code that allow your uploading and licensing your photos, depending on what jurisdictions this is about and on the sets themselves. –LPfi (talk) 15:21, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

File:Bikku_Rajawat.jpg

File:Bikku Rajawat.jpg Can you tell me what will happen to this image? @Túrelio @Fitindia @CptViraj Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 15:01, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@मनीष पँवार: It will probably be deleted.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 17:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Please see this also.File:Gauravsingh.jpg Manish Panwar ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 18:02, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@मनीष पँवार: That, too, will probably be deleted.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 18:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Can we upload photoes in internet?

Can we upload photoes in internet? Liyinmnas (talk) 17:29, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Liyinmnas: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/154 by trying to upload content that has appeared elsewhere as a new user. Please read COM:NETCOPYRIGHT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 18:01, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Most photos you find on the Internet are not appropriate to upload to Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 18:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Supersede

How do I get File:GNAALogo.svg to supersede File:Gnaa logo.svg. The first one is the correct and current logo for the association. PalauanReich (talk) 20:07, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

• @PalauanReich: Are you saying File:Gnaa logo.svg was never correct, or that it has been changed?
• We're just as interested here in historical logos as current ones, so a new logo doesn't exactly "supersede" an old one, but if a logo is outdated, that fact should be added to its description; you can even add a link to the later logo there.
• If there is a Wikipedia article that should have the current logo, edit Wikipedia accordingly. - Jmabel ! talk 01:38, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

  Currently, enwiki is debating whether this website belongs to a legit continuation of the original basket of trolls, or whether it's an all-new, unrelated, fresh basket of deplorables who have appropriated a similar moniker. I would oppose overwriting any historical logos until we clear up what's under the bridge, without feeding too many of them. Elizium23 (talk) 05:24, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Duplications or near duplications

What do you do with them? File:Paisagem do Arno - Leonardo da Vinci.jpg is essentially the same as File:Study of a Tuscan Landscape.jpg. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:25, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Clarityfiend: link them to each other with {{Otherversion}}. - Jmabel ! talk 15:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Done. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Appealing a blocked account

Tried to publish my first article but it was blocked. Now I can't figure out how to appeal the block as the notification disappeared. Shoptheblok (talk) 13:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

You are blocked on Wikipedia in English, not here at Wikimedia Commons. The page you are looking for may be en:User talk:Shoptheblok, your user page over there. –LPfi (talk) 14:01, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Upload Corrected File with Attribution

Question: How can we upload the correct logo file with attribution to me (and my studio) as the agency of record for this design?

Context: Wiki user FLAGVISIONER uploaded a City of Miami logo. This is a project I worked with the City of Miami (reference 1, reference 2, reference 3) that we will publish via press release publicly within a few weeks with attribution to my design studio and myself as design lead. You can see my original upload with date-stamp in 2020. Wondering how we can upload the correct SVG version (user FLAGVISIONER simply vectorized it from a JPG and it looks damaged, I have the original files ready) I own the rights to this design work as it was registered under my company name and transferring ownership to the City as the client. and how I can get attribution as the designer on record, will I need some kind of page? Acevvvedo (talk) 14:56, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience link: File:Logo of Miami, Florida.svg. - Jmabel ! talk 15:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I see no earlier contributions from you on Wikimedia Commons, and just one file uploaded on Wikipedia in English (a portrait). Where is the "original" 2020 upload?

For the new file, you can either upload it separately, with correct attribution, and mark that file as superseding the Flagvisioner file, or upload yours as a new version of it. I assume uploading by a new name will make the version history and attribution clearer, so I would recommend that path. We can help with the attribution wording and the superseding template after the upload. It would probably help if you used COM:VRT to confirm your role, although that is not strictly needed as the file will be in the public domain through the city (if I understand correctly).

–LPfi (talk) 15:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply and instructions, Jmabel and I apologize, replying here since I'm not familiar with Wikipedia edits (only made 1 or 2 in a few pages many years ago.) I'm not even too certain how to upload a new one. For clarity, I did NOT upload one in 2020, I was just showing I was the original creator of the seal/logo in 2020. Could you point me in the right direction as to how to upload / edit correctly? On the logo page under EDIT is says "You cannot overwrite this file." I would like to to do it the right way. If I should confirm my role at COM:VRT, I can do that as well, again, not sure how.

--Acevvvedo (talk) 16:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Acevvvedo: For obvious reasons, new users aren't allowed to upload over existing files. Here's what I'd suggest:

• Take a look at the page COM:VRT. That will tell you how to get hold of the team that handles confidential correspondence and, in particular, verifying that someone is who they say they are.
• Write them to let them know the situation: who you are, the evidence that you are who should be credited here, the version of the file that you would like replacing this, and really anything else you want to take up. This may take a little bit of back-and-forth, but probably not too much.
• They will eventually sort it out and issue a "ticket," a templated message they will place on that page. I'm not sure the extent to which they will make the other edits themselves, because I haven't been through that part of the process and I'm not on the team.
• Despite what User:LPfi said, I'd suggest that it end up on the same page it is now. The attribution should be explicit, using the "author" property of {{Information}} and the "attribution" property of the license template, so the past history shouldn't be a problem.
• You might want to wait a day or so, though, and see if anyone has some refinements to that, or if LPfi has a good case why I'm wrong on the point where we disagree. - Jmabel ! talk 16:39, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Great, fair enough! And understood regarding new users. I haven't edited anything in 10+ years so I understand protocol. I'll go ahead and try that and will report back. Wiki has a lot of intricate processes but I'm sure we can figure it out. Appreciate the help. Acevvvedo (talk) 19:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Delineatio General's Camprorum Desertorum vulgo Ukraina. Cum adjacentibus Provinciis.png

Hi according to my knowledge there should not a copyright issue with the provision of the pictures from the archives for the objects (e.g. maps) created several hundred years ago. Nonetheless the picture is reported as such that does violate the licensing for some reason. Can you please help me understand this? The tags where also provided according to the available information (which is incomplete for the objects of such age). Thanks

--Krispe13 (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

No copyright tag is provided. Ruslik (talk) 20:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

I added {{PD-old-100}}. Can somebody decipher the text in the lower right corner? It could be a signature (in which case the map isn't anonymous and the author can hardly be called unknown without research). There also is no publication history, so we can only guess at the country of origin and date of publication (which would be needed to use PD-1996 or PD-US-expired, respectively). –LPfi (talk) 20:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Expired works published outside of the USA

Hello, I'm trying to upload a map published in the Soviet Union in 1930. As such, its copyright has expired in most countries, but not the USA. The knowledgebase states that:

For works first published before 1964, copyright lasts 28 years after publication, and is therefore currently expired unless the owner filed for renewal during the window between 27 and 28 years after publication.

I have confirmed that the copyright on this work was not extended, and it should therefore be safe to upload to Commons, but the upload wizard does not present any kind of option to do this. How do I correctly upload this work to Wikimedia Commons? Thanks in advance, Akakievich (talk) 22:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Akakievich: that 28 years thing is not so simple for works initially published outside the U.S., and there is also the 1996 URAA restoration of rights to complicate things. I suspect that this is tricky enough that you really need to take it to Commons:Village pump/Copyright, not here. - Jmabel ! talk 23:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

  oh god, I might just give up instead, the map is not even particularly helpful... thank you very much anyway for your input! Akakievich (talk) 23:45, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Vidéo extensions

Please what kind of video extensions can I upload WaakyeB (talk) 00:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@WaakyeB: Hi, and welcome. Please see COM:FT#Video and COM:Video.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 03:00, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Football kit.

How can we convert uploaded images into football kit pattern? Ghdfghmp (talk) 06:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ghdfghmp: Hi, and welcome. You may use any tool that helps you create png files that are the appropriate size. As an example, for the right arm, the size is 31 × 59 pixels. There are more links at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Kit right arm Fiorentina1718tb.png, but I have yet to find a guide or set of standards for them.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 09:55, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

salve vorrei utilizzare le immagini sul vostro sito utilizzo avrei necessità di sapere come contattare i proprietari del copyright

Ven Dike2005 (talk) 15:01, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Dike2005: Tutte le immagini che sono qui sono concesse in licenza o sono di pubblico dominio. Finché ti conformi alla licenza, non è necessario contattare il detentore del copyright. Se il detentore del copyright era l'autore del caricamento, puoi provare a contattarlo sulla sua pagina di discussione (o via e-mail, se lo hanno consentito). Se si tratta di terze parti, non abbiamo alcun vantaggio su di te nel rintracciarle. - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Client Photo deletion

I have a client named Adam Sandoval and I am trying to use one of the photos he's taken himself and has allowed me to use, but the photo is under threat of deletion. What should I change on the photo copyright to allow me to use it on his Wikipedia page I'm building him? Jamesnewton.indycollab (talk) 16:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

The photo is Adam Sandoval standing in front of motorcycle.jpg Jamesnewton.indycollab (talk) 16:32, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Jamesnewton.indycollab: I assume you are talking about File:Adam Sandoval and his dog scooter on his motorcycle.jpg. If Mr. Sandoval took that himself, or otherwise has had the copyright transferred to him, he (and no one else) can go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to offer a license to use the photo. If someone else owns the copyright, they'll need to do that instead.
• An alternative would be for the copyright-holder to first publish the photo on a site clearly under their control and indicate the license there. Then you can cite that as a source and indicate the same license (and, presumably, attribution) here.
• In either case, please don't claim the photo as your "own work" if it isn't.
• Also: have you read en:WP:COI? It sounds like you are doing paid editing on the English-language Wikipedia without following the instructions on revealing conflicts of interest. That could easily get you blocked there, and I strongly recommend you attend to it ASAP. - Jmabel ! talk 21:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

why my photo deleted I give all details

why my photo deleted I give all details Leylacabbarli (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I presume this is about File:Leyla.cabbarli.jpg. - Jmabel ! talk 21:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Leylacabbarli: It was deleted as a personal photo by someone with no significant contributions to Commons or other WMF projects. As far as I can see, your only contribution is a wikidata item about yourself. - Jmabel ! talk 21:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Revision of a file already uploaded to a commons challenge

How is it possible to upload a revision of a file already uploaded to a commons challenge? I uploaded a digitized photo which in retrospect I found to be unclean at some spots. After these (minor) corrections I want to exchange the former by the new file. As the challenge (laundring) still is in its submission phase, could I just delete the old version and upload the new one? Foeniz (talk) 10:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

If you scroll all the way down on the file page, there's a little link labeled “Upload new revision of this file”. Click it and you can then upload cleaned version of the file. Don't forget this is used to upload minor fixes rather than broader edits. Broader edits that have nothing to do with fixing issues with the original file should be uploaded as a new file and marked as a derivative work instead. Polda18 ^D _C 11:04, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very muchǃ It worked out fine, but a problem left isː the preview shows the corrected version while the full size at the same page shows the old version. What should I do? Foeniz (talk) 11:44, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Purge cache, use a different browser, wait a while. The cache is fooled by new uploads this way. Elizium23 (talk) 14:43, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for making a proposal, but, sorry I don't understand the details. Which cache do you talk about? For which part of the revision process would a different browser be of an advantage? (I never had a problem with Firefox). So fare I will just go ahead with waiting, sometimes that did help. Foeniz (talk) 16:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Foeniz: Hi, and welcome. Please see COM:CACHE.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 17:42, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Using another browser helps if the old version is in the browser cache, which is not shared between browsers. If it is in the cache of the server (or a proxy, possibly at Wikimedia), the other browser will get the same old copy. The caching of big web sites such as the Wikimedia ones is complicated, so purging does not always succeed as expected. –LPfi (talk) 18:28, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jeff G. and Hi LPfi. It did not work out. The file I talk about isː

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drying_area_of_laundry_business,_Manali,_Himachal_Pradesh,_India,_1989.jpghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drying_area_of_laundry_business,_Manali,_Himachal_Pradesh,_India,_1989.jpg

I addedː ?actioɲ=purge and after confirming question and answer the file got opened telling it is the new version, which is the case with the preview, but the not with the full screen picture. Which alternative browser would you recommend? Foeniz (talk) 19:04, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, above I made a mistake. I doubled the URL (not in my attemps to purge). Correct isː https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drying_area_of_laundry_business,_Manali,_Himachal_Pradesh,_India,_1989.jpgFoeniz (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Foeniz: What minor changes did you make when uploading the second version of File:Drying area of laundry business, Manali, Himachal Pradesh, India, 1989.jpg?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 03:06, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Jeff, thank you for taking care. The minor changes were cleaning the file (by using photoshop) from contaminations left from the digitizing prozess. For example removing a hair at the front of the second fence pillar from the right. Foeniz (talk) 11:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

That's okay. Small touches like removing stray hair on photograph scan is minor fix, therefore it's okay to upload as new revision of the same file. Polda18 ^D _C 15:45, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you Polda18. That's good to know. But it does not solve my Problem with the revision being well done for the preview, but the full screen did not get revised if you start it from the URL. Foeniz (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

That's strange. I have the same issue. My guess is the server cache is somehow stuck. Can one of the sysops look into it? Polda18 ^D _C 17:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jeff G. When I opened the file just now I found it fixed - how ever and who ever. Thank you (and Polda18) for your concern and help.Foeniz (talk) 17:38, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Upload image

Hello.i just made an account but i couldn't upload an image.why ? عراقية.لبنانية (talk) 04:51, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

• @عراقية.لبنانية: It would help a lot if you would say what method of uploading you were trying (Special:UploadWizard? something else?) and what happened (some particular message? lack of response at some particular step?). - Jmabel ! talk 06:20, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Forgotten login code

I have a login code, which I have forgotten. How do I retreive it? I understand from the write-up of Jimmy Wales the mission of Wikipedia. I should wish some danish users out of Wikepedia, because they abuse, stench and lie all the time through Google to make it a business earning a lot of money. Perhaps you can stop that kind of thing!! 176.23.137.55 06:00, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

• Did you provide an email address when you created your account? If so, it should be easy to recover (just indicate a on the login screen that you forgot your password); if not, it will be impossible to recover. - Jmabel ! talk 06:24, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

  It would also be important to know if this "login code" they refer to is a 2FA TOTP code. In those cases, a lost secret would necessitate falling back on the paper code list which the editor printed out when enabling 2FA on the account; there is no other recovery for 2FA accounts in this way. Elizium23 (talk) 00:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright on works of art belonging to the state of Texas

Apparently "Ranger Escort West of the Pecos" (1965) is property of the state of Texas. Anyone have any idea if copyright applies to such works of art belonging to the state government of Texas? 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 16:49, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Ficaia: the fact that the State of Texas owns the work of art has no bearing on its copyright. - Jmabel ! talk 17:10, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

  So no hope of hosting that image on commons? 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 17:42, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

  • Only if you can get a license from the copyright-holder (which is not likely to be the state, they presumably purchased the object, not the intellectual property rights). - Jmabel ! talk 21:07, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

  Note that the state of Texas can still copyright works they own. https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/texas/ Copyright usually would remain with the artist or their estate unless the sale was also to acquire the copyright. Abzeronow (talk) 21:41, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

Mass Delink/Change to category of invalid gallery link

I found an image linking to James Ensor upload by meemoo for publicdomainday 2020 and saw that over 800 files are linking to it. I think that a bot should either completely delink it or at least change the gallery link to a category link. RPI2026F1 (talk) 00:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@RPI2026F1: Hi, and welcome. Nothing links there any more.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:06, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Hey. Nothing links there anymore because I figured out how to use Pywikibot to wholesale find-and-replace the old deadlink to a category. RPI2026F1 (talk) 13:45, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@RPI2026F1: Well done!   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:16, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

This section was archived on a request by:   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:16, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Copyright Problem

I have uploades a file on wikimedia the file I own but can be published denying me claiming that I haven't provided evidence That I own the work. How do you want me to prove that? Branton Wafula Salim (talk) 11:34, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Contact COM:VRT and show them the full resolution photographs with EXIF data. Abzeronow (talk) 18:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Can I upload cover of my book

Hi, I have published a book with Routledge and with my co-author are the copyright holders for the book cover image/design. Am I allowed to upload an image of the book cover? The book is called The Science and Art of Dreaming. The cover can be seen at this link. https://www.routledge.com/The-Science-and-Art-of-Dreaming/Blagrove-Lockheart/p/book/9780367479947 Thank you! Mark Blagrove, message wrtten with agreement of my co-author Julia Lockheart M.t.blagrove (talk) 12:50, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.t.blagrove: Sure, if you are the owner of the copyright on the image and you have not ceded the exclusivity of use to the publisher. (But are you sure that you are co-owner of the copyright on J. Lockheart's artwork?) Of course, you will have to confirm that through the VRT procedure. Please note that other works by Julia Lockheart have already been uploaded by two accounts claiming to be her (1 and 2). -- Asclepias (talk) 13:22, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, Julia Lockheart and I are credited in the front matter of the book as the copyright owners, and she is credited as designing the front cover. I can put all that in the information when I upload it. Thank you. M.t.blagrove (talk) 14:01, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.t.blagrove: just remember to go through the COM:VRT process to clarify permission for this particular image and/or to clarify that you are the owner of this particular account so that can be verified for future uploads. - Jmabel ! talk 19:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

How can I add my startup here so that people can know about it, as it is missing

How can I add my startup here so that people can know about it, as it is missing, please help me to create my startup page FliqaIndia Fliqa2019 (talk) 20:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Please help me Fliqa2019 (talk) 20:56, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

@Fliqa2019:

1. This is Wikimedia Commons. We don't have articles here, just images, video, etc.
2. Please see en:WP:COI it you are thinking of writing about any topic to which you are closely related. Short version: this is strongly discouraged.

- Jmabel ! talk 01:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

הרשמה לפורום

מעוניין להירשם לפורום ולהתחבר אך לא הצלחתי מה יכול לסייע לי בכך? 147.234.64.35 06:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

אולי יהיה לך קל יותר להיכנס לויקיפדיה העברית כדי ליצור חשבון. קישור לדף ויקיפדיה העברית כדי לעשות חשבון

לאחר מכן תוכל להשתמש בחשבון זה כדי להתחבר ל-Wikimedia Commons. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 06:09, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

אני כבר רשום איפה שנתת לי קישור 147.234.64.35 11:19, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Cara menggugah foto

Cara menggugah foto Republik aja (talk) 07:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Langkah pertama - Jmabel ! talk 15:00, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

What happens now?

My name was changed, but the contents of my old user page haven't moved to my new one, why is that? Teneab (talk) 08:09, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Teneab: you probably need an explicit page move. Should work just like any other page. - Jmabel ! talk 15:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Jmabel do I need to request a page move? how do I do that? Teneab (talk) 15:46, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

  wait i completely skipped over the part where you said "should work just like any other page", my bad lol Teneab (talk) 15:47, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Registering my email and login to Ubuntu

Hi with email behtashfilm@gmail.com entered ubuntu,with the username JamilehTolougar,which was a successful email build.But I don't know what email and password to enter.Please help me. Many thanks, Please help me. Thank you 🙏🏻 5.215.149.248 13:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

• It's not clear what, if anything, this has to do with this site (Wikimedia Commons). - Jmabel ! talk 15:03, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

how should the video end? If not mp4?

I uploaded a video that ends with mp4 and they told me it was not accepted Әмина Ибраева (talk) 13:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Әмина Ибраева: See Commons:Video#Video_formats. - Jmabel ! talk 15:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Creating a new master category

Hi - I have stuff that I am uploading but cannot find an existing category that I would like to tag them with. Samples: Los Angeles Regional Water Quality Control Board; LARWQCB; California Coastal Commission; CCC; Los Angeles County Flood Control District; LACFCD; Los Angeles County Department of Public Works; LACDPW; United States Army Corps of Engineers; USACE.

What to do?

- Tom McMahon (TLM2TLM) TLM2TLM (talk) 14:26, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Tom, you can make new categories and subcategorize them under Category:Government of Los Angeles. If you need help, let me know. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Justin (koaf) - I just tried to add a few but they don't seem to be available yet. Does it take time to propagate? TLM2TLM (talk) 16:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

You kind of did it in reverse, Tom. You edited the main category and added its subcategories to it. Instead, what you do is you go to these three pages and you add [[Category:Government of Los Angeles]] to them. Note that I've gone ahead and done that. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Still not clear. I don't understand the syntax. Need to cogitate... (Thanks for your help so far!). How would I add: "Los Angeles Regional Water Quality Control Board"; "LARWQCB"; "United States Army Corps of Engineers"; "USACE"? TLM2TLM (talk) 17:02, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

How did you create those three pages? They didn't exist before. TLM2TLM (talk) 17:24, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@TLM2TLM: Commons:Categories#Creating a new category. There are other ways, but this does the job. - Jmabel ! talk 18:12, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

• @TLM2TLM: Category:United States Army Corps of Engineers has a category (and many subcategories). I'm not going to look through the rest of these one by one, but "L.A. region" may not be entirely L.A., you probably know more about that than I do. You can either use more general categories (e.g. Category:Government of California or one of its subcats, Category:Water in California or one of its subcats, etc.) or you can create a new category using such categories as its parent cats. - Jmabel ! talk 15:12, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

The painting of Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane

Can I use this picture for a live stream Good Friday church service 96.60.247.197 17:37, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

• There are a lot of paintings of Jesus in the garden of Gethsemane. Could you please link?
• The answer will ultimately be "yes", but if it is something that is not in the public domain there may be some conditions on that "yes". - Jmabel ! talk 18:13, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Latest version only as thumbnail visible

File:Volksentscheid Berlin 2030 klimaneutral Results.svg Here the latest version is only showed as thumbnail in the table in Commons or in the article when used. But the large image on top (and the maximized image when clicked on the thumbnail in the article) is still showing the oldest version. How can I fix it? A11w1ss3nd (talk) 18:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC) --A11w1ss3nd (talk) 18:59, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@A11w1ss3nd: Almost certainly a caching issue that will fix itself eventually. Pretty common. - Jmabel ! talk 21:06, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Do you accept patent documents ?

Like USPTO or the like. What about patent drawings? Herreshoffian (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Herreshoffian: If there are no copyright issues, typically yes. Note though that https://www.uspto.gov/terms-use-uspto-websites says "When using USPTO websites, you may encounter documents, illustrations, photographs, or other informational resources contributed or licensed by private individuals, companies, or organizations that may be protected by U.S. and foreign copyright laws," and goes on to warn that the mere fact that something is on the USPTO site does not change anything about otherwise copyrighted materials. But, for example, anything from 1927 or earlier should now be fine. - Jmabel ! talk 21:10, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:The Conversion and Ordination of Nanda.jpg

Are files sourced from the Metropolitan Museum of Art website public domain?

--Raamesh (talk) 06:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Raamesh: When they are tagged as such by the museum, yes. Please link the explicit source where it is specified and add a status tag. You can see also this webpage and this template. -- Asclepias (talk) 12:00, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Raamesh: , made edits suggested by Asclepias to the file.  Done Abzeronow (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot @Abzeronowand @Asclepias. This really helps. Raamesh (talk) 19:13, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Snellimento essenziale e terzietà nella voce Di Nicola Giulia Paola

Ho snellito il linguaggio laudatorio e lasciato la scarna verità dei fatti. Grazie tutte le fonti dei testi citati. Ho cercato di entrare nello spirito dell'Enciclopedia zie se togliete l'avviso GATTo buono 87.10.182.109 15:30, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• I have no idea what this may refer to. The IP address posting here has no other contributions on Wikimedia Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 18:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
• Maybe about it:Giulia Paola Di Nicola and posted on the wrong website. ATTN: User:Gattobuono. - Jmabel ! talk 18:08, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Upload old photo of ancestor?

Hi - I'd like to upload a photo of my great great grandfather Archibald Sligo (1805-1876) Master Shoemaker of Perth, Scotland, but I have no information on who took the photo or when it was taken. He could be say 65 in the photo and if so it could date from 1870. My family members freely share this photo around but I'm not aware of who (if anyone) owns it. Is it permissible to upload? With thanks Frankx100 (talk) 20:32, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• Probably. Presuming no other family member claims copyright, sounds like {{PD-Heirs}} would be a good option. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:51, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Also {{PD-old-assumed}} is possible. I'd add both. If it was first published in the USA 1989–2002, its U.S. copyright may not have expired, so for that the heirs template is needed. If that template for some reason gets contested, a 150-years old photo should still be PD in most cases (including if it was first published in the UK and the photographer died at latest 1925, which we regard as probable). –LPfi (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

  Great, thank you. Frankx100 (talk) 01:30, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Frankx100: I added him to Archibald Sligo and you should get a free account at Familysearch and work on his tree. If you have a higher resolution version of the image, just overwrite my version by using "Upload a new version of this file". --RAN (talk) 01:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

  Great, thank you. Frankx100 (talk) 01:29, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Copyright help regarding File:Omond Solandt 1940.jpg

Hello,

This file was accessed from the UTARMS website and in the copyright section it says that the file is "Public Domain - Image is clear for use, no permission required. Please credit". On the UTARMS copyright page (found here), they say that "This image is no longer subject to copyright and can be used without permission"

How do I fix this in commons?

Thanks

--Elimueller333 (talk) 20:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks like {{PD-Canada}} would be appropriate. Give credit to UTARMS with link - but that seems to be complying with a reasonable courtesy request, rather than a copyright restriction. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 20:53, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! Elimueller333 (talk) 20:59, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Elimueller333 Hello. I fixed that for you. You had forgot to add a license when uploading the file. HeminKurdistan (talk) 20:58, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Photo removal

There is a photograph that I wish to have removed. It does not align with my meal ethics and I am Kindly requisition my likeness be removed. Thank you

Name and email address redacted. 2601:644:9281:F8C0:8136:63:559C:217B 01:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

See Commons:Deletion requests for requesting deletion. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

New version of Holosticha in Kahl 1932.png

Hello. I've just downloaded a new version of File:Holosticha in Kahl 1932.png file, and a few hours later, the modifications don't appear. However, by clicking on the new version (in the lower part of commons), I see that the modifications appear. But not in the Wikipedia page nor in the representation in the commons header. Did I forget to do something? Thanks for your help. GerardGiraud (talk) 18:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Gerardgiraud: It's a caching issue, it happens a lot, it's not a serious problem. - Jmabel ! talk 19:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I've had similar problems several times over the last few days. There is some trouble in that department apparently. --Rosenzweig τ 20:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for responding @Jmabel and Rosenzweig: . Image caching is done manually then? I thought that the replacement of a version on the previous one was done automatically. In fact I admit my ignorance of the mechanics of Wikipedia commons. GerardGiraud (talk) 07:12, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Gerardgiraud: No, it is an automated process. Which may have problems at some times. --Rosenzweig τ 07:16, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Kindly send my username and password

Respected sir/mam, I forgot login username and password. Kindly resend my login details to My E-mail ID: krishnakumar.myala@gmail.com.

Thanks and regards, Krishnakumar Myala 2409:408C:8E9E:DAE7:0:0:7448:3614 10:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Did you add your email to your wikipedia account? But I believe you are free to create a new account. At least I created several in my early wikipedia career until I kept this one.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:21, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

If you provided your email when you set up the account it should be easy to recover. If you did not, it should be impossible to recover and you'll need to start a new one. - Jmabel ! talk 15:33, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

how do i delete an uploaded photo?

i have a photo i uploaded that needs a new name. how do i change this or delete the file so i can reupload it with a new name? Neutraltoafault (talk) 20:31, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Neutraltoafault:

1. You seem to have already uploaded the same photo twice under different names, which you should not do.
2. You can use {{Rename}} on the file page to request a move, because you don't have filemover privileges. I believe there should also be a "move" button that lets you request that, but I can't check because I do have filemover privileges.

Jmabel ! talk 21:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Allentown discussion resumed

Copied from Commons:Village pump/Archive/2023/02

The following had been archived, but I am copying it here for discussion. PLEASE DO NOT FURTHER EDIT THIS SECTION, discuss in sections below. - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Extended content

I'm not very familiar with how category pages work on Commons. One of the bullet points in COM:CAT#Creating a new category states A short description text that explains what should be in the category, if the title is not clear or unambiguous enough on its own. is acceptable, but I'm wondering about a category like Category:Midway Theater, Allentown, Pennsylvania which seems to be an attempt to create a quasi-Wikipedia article on Commons. The content on that category page seems, in my opinion, to go beyond what would be considered a "short-description" and basically seems to be someone's own original research. I don't know about the licensing of all of files populating the category, but most if not all of them seem to be licensed as {{PD-US-no notice}}. The files include newspaper advertisements and newspaper articles about the theater, these all appear to be cut-outs or clippings and there's no way of knowing whether they were covered under the copyright of the entire paper. None of the files seems to be used in any Wikipedia articles, which is another reason why I think the category page was created to be a de-facto article so to speak. My understanding is that print advertisements were required to have separate visible copyright notifications on a per ad basis, but newspaper articles (text and photos) were not required to do so and instead were covered by the copyright notice for the entire newspaper as whole. If my understanding is incorrect, then perhaps the files are OK as licensed; however, I'm not sure about the stub-like article content at the top of the page and hoping others can clarify whether it's OK for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:50, 5 February 2023 (UTC) Putting aside the whole copyright question and whatnot, I'll usually either shorten long descriptions to a few sentences or just delete it whole cloth depending on if it's clearly OR or not since this isn't Wikipedia. Especially if the information is only tangentially related to the category. That said, I don't think it necessarily hurts to have a basic description if it helps people understand better what the images are about. Even in cases where it's not referenced (at least if it's uncontroversial). Like if it's a category for a historic building that burned down and was rebuilt several times, cool. Have a short description about it since the information provides context for the images. Three huge paragraphs going into mostly pointless historical minutia is clearly overkill though. There's no reason that stuff can't just be added to Wikidata or the descriptions for the individual files. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC) The description is a bit much; if it were sourced, I'd suggest turning it into a Wikipedia article, but without that, we can't. @Atwngirl: this is basically your work. I assume you had sources. Could you consider adding appropriate citation and moving the bulk of this to en-wiki? I assume some of this can be cited from exactly the newspaper stories that are among the uploaded clippings. Also, Atwngirl: the uploads are at least mostly yours (I didn't go through them all). U.S. newspaper content from 1936 can very well still be copyrighted until 2031 (etc. for later dates). The ads are probably good, lacking copyright notices of their own, but of course clippings of individual articles don't have "copyright markings". There is usually a single copyright notice for an entire daily newspaper. Certainly the newspaper would have been copyrighted. We'd need a specific reason to believe that copyright was not renewed. Do you have a basis for that? You appear to know what newspaper they were from. If you need some assistance if figuring that out (I'd like to keep these if we can), you can probably get that at Commons:Village pump/Copyright, but please in the future sort out that sort of thing before uploading. You presumably don't want to go through this amount of effort just to have your work deleted as copyright violations. - Jmabel ! talk 04:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC) The paper is The Morning Call of Allentown, Pennsylvania, which did not renew any copyrights. I think the history is good, since we do not have an article. It provides search terms for someone looking for images. If it was on Wikipedia, we would just need the lede, the first few sentences, from a Wikipedia article. --RAN (talk) 06:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC) Personally I'd be all for it if the length was chopped down to one reasonably sized paragraph like in Jmabel's example. It's way to long as it is though. People shouldn't have to scroll through almost half a page before they get to the actual images. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:53, 5 February 2023 (UTC) @Atwngirl has been around a long time and more or less single-mindedly has been contributing memorabilia related to Allentown, PA. She is either an enthusiastic private historian of the town, or more likely has some official connection to a historical society, library, or museum in that town with privileged access to many of these items. I have not seen any declaration to that effect, but it would be nice to know the background here, because considering the extensive history of that one building in question, there may be much more where that came from. Elizium23 (talk) 08:01, 5 February 2023 (UTC) This is interesting to me because many of the photos of the South West Sydney that I’m taking are significant for their area, but may not be significant enough to entail an article in Wikipedia. However, I have found quite a lot of information on the subject of the photo. I would like to add detailed information, but I’m wondering if I might need to create a seperate resource off-wiki using a CC license as this sort of data won’t be allowed here? I’d love some clarification in this. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2023 (UTC) @Chris.sherlock2: I wonder if Wikispore could be useful for this sort of project? I certainly think that more small wikis would be a good thing! :-) (I've got an idea for a local wiki at https://freo.wiki ). — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 09:19, 6 February 2023 (UTC) I wonder if a local history spore might be worthwhile? Lots of local history just cannot get onto en.wiki, but is still very important. It would still need to ensure that NOR and citations are used, but it would be pretty interesting! I know many local historians would likely love it. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 13:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC) Just as an example of what I think is entirely within reason for a category about a building: Category:1012 First Avenue, Seattle. A lot of what is here is name changes, when stories were added, what was in the building, when the facade changed, all of which are likely to be useful in categorizing photos, including whether they refer to this building. guess we could have a proper en-wiki for this building, because it has Seattle Landmark status (so we'd have the notability), but what is here would still be pretty stubby for Wikipedia, and it doesn't seem likely that a non-stub about this will be written, at least in the foreseeable future. - Jmabel ! talk 04:48, 5 February 2023 (UTC) I appreciate all of the responses my OP has received so far. Category:Melody Circle, Allentown, Pennsylvania is a similar page to the one about the Midway Theater that was also created by the same user. Again, a few sentences or even a short paragraph would seem to be OK as an introduction to the images found on the page, but these two category pages (there might be more) do, at least in my opinion, go beyond that and seem to be more of an attempt to create an English Wikipedia article about these buildings on Commons, without necessarily having to deal with all of the policies and guidelines of English Wikipedia. If the content can be reliably sourced per en:WP:NOR or if the buildings are English Wikipedia notable in their own right per en:WP:NBUILDING, then there's probably a way to incorporate all or some of this content into a newly created or already existing English Wikipedia articles. I'm not sure, however, it's such a great idea to allow it on Commons just because no such articles about these buildings may currently exist. I don't think Commons was ever intended to be a en:WP:ALTERNATIVEOUTLET for English Wikipedia as a place for others to what might be considered their own "original research". If these category pages are the result of efforts on behalf of a local historical society or similar group, then perhaps the content would be best hosted on said group's own website or own wiki-site than Commons if it's not appropriate for English Wikipedia. — Marchjuly (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2023 (UTC) I mean, at the very least it's not in a discoverable place. Who among us, seeking encyclopedic information on an item, visits its category page on Commons? Furthermore, the polyglot nature of Commons militates against it becoming an alternate enwiki repository of this stuff. Elizium23 (talk) 15:53, 5 February 2023 (UTC) I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, but at the same time this does seem to be sort of related to COM:PS#Excluded educational content, at least it seems that way to me. Would similar text content be allowed, for example, on a Commons user page per COM:PSP? I get that Commons isn't English Wikipedia and thus the latter's policies and guidelines don't apply per COM:NOTWP; however, it doesn't seem as if Commons should be the place for posting or hosting an individual's or group's original research per COM:NOT#Wikimedia Commons is not an encyclopedia, dictionary, guide, or book. — Marchjuly (talk) 17:42, 5 February 2023 (UTC) I'd put the information in Category:Cinemas in Allentown, Pennsylvania in the same category. It's useful and interesting sure, but still better served by cited somewhere else. For instance Wikidata. I'm not sure most of those cinemas would qualify for individual Wikipedia articles, but that's the kicks sometimes. That said, I'm pretty sure the bar for inclusion is a lot lower for articles about geographical locations then other subjects. So I don't see why it couldn't be included in [15]. It looks like there's already a lot of overly detailed, unreferenced material in the article already. So really what's the difference at this point? There's no reason Atwngirl can't cut the article back and include whatever she wants to there instead of putting it on Commons where no one is going to see it. BTW, it looks like she hasn't even edited the article before and it's been edited thousands of times by a single user in the meantime, which is interesting. Either way, the article could definitely use more people editing it and a more diverse range of information about Allentown. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:48, 6 February 2023 (UTC) Category:Betzs Restaurant, Category:Allentown Trust Company and Category:Cigar Manufacturing and Marketing in Allentown, Pennsylvania are yet some other examples of this. This user has created more than a thousand new category pages since 2016. Many seem like a typical Commons category page that has mainly files and very little if any textual content. Others start out that way but then textual content is subsequently added to them through "minor" edits until they start looking like articles with image galleries. Whatever the reason for creating them, a pattern has been established and more of these category pages will probably be created in the future. — Marchjuly (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC) I believe we've indicated enough of a consensus that this stuff is (1) OR and (2) out of scope for Commons, so shall we officially discourage this user from continuing? It's been 3 days since her last edit, so I assume she's on a bit of a break and hasn't had opportunity to notice, or participate in, our discussion here. Elizium23 (talk) 19:16, 6 February 2023 (UTC) They could just be busy and haven't logged in recently. I've added a {{Please see}} to their user talk page (I should've done that sooner and my apologies for not doing so) to let them know about this discussion. — Marchjuly (talk) 19:30, 6 February 2023 (UTC) It's been more than a week since Atwngirl was pinged/notified of this discussion, but they still haven't responded. Their last Commons edit was on February 4. It's quite possible they just are busy with other things, but Commons still marches on; so, perhaps it's time to figure out what if anything needs to be done here. Should these category pages just be blanked of text completely? Should only a short paragraph remain? Is only an infobox really needed for those pages that have them? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Should these category pages just be blanked of text completely? Certainly not, though it may make sense to edit them down considerably. I think the example I gave above shows about what is appropriate. Also: where there is no equivalent en-wiki content, it would be good to save any content (beyond what is effectively covered by the remaining text or infobox) on the respective talk pages (on Common or, if there is a relevant article, on en-wiki) as potential material to flesh out for en-wiki in the future. - Jmabel ! talk 16:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC) I'm not so sure that we should take it upon ourselves to preserve much of this at all; if it is unsourced and original research, no Wikipedia project would accept it anyway, certainly not enwiki. If it can't be sourced and doesn't meet WP:V, then it must be removed outright. The WP:ONUS, burden of proof, is on the person adding material, so if Atwngirl is unable to do so within a short time frame here, we should absolutely, completely, remove unsourced material. Elizium23 (talk) 17:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Those are all Wikipedia policies, aren’t they? Do we have commons policies that she is violating? I’m not a fan of citing Wikipedia shortcuts on commons. Commons is not Wikipedia (thank god). - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 20:35, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Since the text which Atwngirl has contributed would only be appropriate for inclusion on enwiki, that's the only wiki whose policies should be considered when deciding whether to retain or delete this text, right? Commons policies would dictate that we remove it all, completely, immediately; we have no use whatsoever for it here. Elizium23 (talk) 21:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC) @Elizium23: I disagree, and in fact here is an edit that you recently made along these lines (unrelated to User:Atwngirl) that I think is dead wrong. The person whose material you removed, User:Publichall, has consistently shown themself to be very knowledgable on Seattle architectural history, and while I wish they had provided a citation, the material you removed could be very useful to date specific photos of the building (or simply to identify them as this building) and/or to help someone find this building in a search for any of several businesses that were based there. Removing information about architects seems particularly odd: Commons routinely indicates information about architects of buildings, and almost no one her provides a citation when (for example) adding an architect category as a parent category for a building category. - Jmabel ! talk 23:57, 15 February 2023 (UTC) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think sourcing and verifiability here on Commons is more than a little bit bonkers, considering what people can get away with in terms of depicting things in images that they would never, never in a million years be able to write in prose on any Wikipedia project without a reliable source. But, you do you, I guess. Elizium23 (talk) 00:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC) I think having at least one paragraph helps cover subjects that might never meet the main wiki's notability requirements but I'll admit to getting a bit long winded for some, since the coverage of these subjects on the wiki is so severely lacking, I'm trying to link as many of these photographs together as possible for future researchers to benefit from. In most cases here it seems that linking to a Wikipedia article is the only form of citation, so it gets messy when there is nothing in the Wiki to even reference, especially when trying to justify parent categories. I'm currently putting together a full article for the building in Jmabel's linked category, and when I get around to publishing it and making a wikidata entry for it, the description can be be chopped down as needed. In the meantime It's more or less a memo for further research. Publichall (talk) 06:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC) I'd suggest that when removing material that is uncited but plausible, it's best to move it to the talk page. Very few people will ever find it in the history. Similarly, the talk page may often be a better place to put "a memo for further research" in the first place. (Statements about living or recently dead people are, of course, a different matter: anything the least bit controversial should be well-sourced.) - Jmabel ! talk 16:30, 16 February 2023 (UTC) @Atwngirl She can start a Fandom wiki called Allentown, Pennsylvania and link to it from Wikidata, even if she starts an English Wikipedia article on a topic, it can be backed up at Fandom, in which she would have admin rights. We can also enclose the category text in a box and have it closed by default, so it doesn't push down the images, but it would still have the text available to provide keywords. --RAN (talk) 00:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC) That may make sense. Having dealt with Atwngirl before, I doubt we will get much of a response and a lot of the edits will be steathily reverted a few months from now under the excuse that it wasn't perfectly done. I spent months and months breaking Category:Newspaper advertising in Allentown, Pennsylvania all from crazy decade categories into Category:The Morning Call (Allentown, PA) by year but they all got reverted back without any discussion and are stored in the decades structure which has thousands of images at a time. It is clear someone wants to create their own universe of articles and stories and categories but very few of these things are going to be used because they are organized in overly broad categories and someone will fight to keep them that way. If someone does clean up the category descriptions, have the pages kept on your watchlist. You will go nuts. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:20, 17 February 2023 (UTC) If Atwngirl is too busy with real world stuff at the moment to respond, then I don't believe there's any need to wait any longer to try and resolve this. If at some later date, Atwngirl disagrees with whatever turns out to be the consensus here, they can ask for clarification at that time. Whatever text content is removed from the category pages will still be in the page history if Atwgirl wants to retrieve it at some later date to use somewhere else. I'm not sure that storing the content on the category talk pages is really a good thing; however, if that's the consensus, then so be it. Finally, Atwngirl has been a pretty prolific uploader over the years, but many of their uploads have ended up deleted via DR or some other reason. Going through all those that remain and assessing their licensing is probably going to take a fair amount of time as well. Perhaps in the process of doing that, the category pages can be cleaned up a bit too. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:21, 22 February 2023 (UTC) Have we come to any firm conclusions as to what to do though? The material doesn’t appear to be causing any harm. Why would we remove it? - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:05, 25 February 2023 (UTC) There's probably lots of things uploaded to Commons that don't appear to be causing any harm depending upon how one defines the word "harm". Will the continued hosting of this content be the straw that breaks the back of Commons? Almost certainly not. The question is whether this content fits within the purpose of a Commons category page, isn't it? COM:NOTWP states that Commons isn't a local Wikipedia in the sense that local Wikipedia policies and guidelines need not be applied; however, implied in that "Commons is not Wikipedia" thinking is that Commons is also not a free web host where one should be able to post whatever they please per COM:SCOPE#Wikimedia Commons is not an encyclopedia, dictionary, guide, or book and COM:HOST. A pattern seems to have been established by Atwngirl to create extensively detailed category pages that appear to be pseudo-articles. Perhaps, they have a reason for doing this, but they should explain how they believe these pages comply with SCOPE. If nothing is done and the categories are simply left as is, then similar category pages probably will be created at some point in the future, which means potentially more things to clean up. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:56, 25 February 2023 (UTC) I don’t necessarily disagree with your concerns, but it doesn’t seem like similar categories are being created. I do think your concern is valid, but in this situation perhaps it might be better to actually wait to see if problems occur. One thing that might be helpful is if we drafted an actual guidance page for category descriptions - unless I’m very much mistaken we don’t have any real documentation that goes into real depth in this. I know that for heritage-listed properties of New South Wales I include a copy of the CC-BY-4.0 descriptions provided by the NSW State Heritage office and these are quite detailed. I would love to see a guidance page and I’d be happy to discuss it, start one (or update an existing one!) as a draft and we nut this out formally. It would give a lot more certainty to everyone and reduce argument and division. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2023 (UTC) I think this is already a problem. There are a number of category pages like this one which have already been created by this user. Many were created years ago and the gradually expanded over time; for example, Category:Hippodrome Theater, Allentown, Pennsylvania. There’s seems to be no need to wait see what they might do next because it's already quite clear what they've been doing; in other words, a pattern has already been established. It's not only creating category pages, but also file uploads that this user has been quite prolific at doing. Many of the files uploaded aren't being used by any projects. Some of these may potentially have educational value, but many seem as if they were uploaded for personal storage purposes more than anything else. Many have also been already deleted or are currently nominated for deletion due to questionable licensing. In addition, this user doesn't seem to be very active on English Wikipedia. If they were uploading files and immediately adding them to articles, then that would one thing. That, however, doesn't seem to be why they are uploading most of these files or creating most of these category pages. — Marchjuly (talk) 02:14, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Copyright issues are, of course, a problem and need to be dealt with, but if someone is uploading content that would be useful for a local historian, that's fine. It doesn't have to be useful to a WMF project. I've uploaded (or in some cases just curated) a ton of images about Seattle that are probably of limited interest to anyone not from here, but have already proved really useful to local historians, especially architectural historians. I was actually given an award by the local chapter of Docomomo mainly because of how many of my photos were showing up in landmark applications, especially when they were looking for images of comparable buildings. I hadn't even been aware of it until they approached me. I'm sure that very few of those images ever made it into Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 06:40, 26 February 2023 (UTC) I understand this and have no problem with this when it comes to files. I guess the point I was trying to make is that if Atwngirl was incorporating their uploads into Wikipedia articles or creating Wikipedia articles, then perhaps the very detailed content added to the category pages would also be something eventually intended for Wikipedia. That doesn't seem to be the case though, at least not to me. It probably doesn't matter for files as long as their licensing is OK, but it seems wrong and outside SCOPE (at least in my opinion) for extensive text content that's pretty much unsourced and written in Commons' voice. Since September 2016, it looks like Atwngirl has created somewhere between 1000 and 1500 category pages. Some like Category:Wert's Cafe, Allentown, Pennsylvania, Category:937 Hamilton Building, Allentown, Pennsylvania and Category:Pennsylvania Power and Light Building seem OK, but others like Category:Crocodile Rock, Allentown, Pennsylvania, Category:YMCA of Allentown, Pennsylvania, Category:Ralston's Flowers, Allentown, Pennsylvania and Category:Fountain Park Pool, Allentown, Pennsylvania seem like pseudo-Wikipedia articles based on someone's original research. If the consensus is that types are category pages are OK for Commons, then that's good enough for me and nothing further needs to be done. On the other hand, if they're not really OK, then that's a lot of category pages to go through and check; so, it would probably be a good idea to at least advise Atwngirl not to create any more such pages until those already created can be assessed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC) That's awesome Jmabel! Well done, a reward well deserved :-) Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 10:55, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Whether the files are or are not used by Wikipedia should not have any baring at all on whether they are valid. I am personally unable to use my CC images on Wikipedia, but I don't see why I shouldn't upload them. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 10:54, 26 February 2023 (UTC) I've already clarified my first post about files not being used by any local Wikipedias, but once again I have no problem with files being hosted by Commons as long as they satisfy COM:HOST and COM:PCP; so, if you upload your work to Commons and it meets HOST, then fine; if not, maybe it should be deleted since Commons isn't intended to be someone's personal photo album per se. The issue with the category pages is the extensively detailed text that some of them contain. Files with questionable licensing or SCOPE issues can be dealt with as such files are usually dealt with. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:38, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Thanks, just wanted to clarify :-) - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 11:59, 26 February 2023 (UTC) if the pseudo-articles have a lede paragraph, keep the lede, and hide the rest using the hide html code, that way they can be search, but not displayed. --RAN (talk) 02:49, 25 February 2023 (UTC)  Comment I still don't see why a lot of this couldn't be transferred over to Wikidata. A lot of these categories don't have Wikidata entries associated with them anyway and it would be great if they had infoboxes. Plus, Wikidata is perfect for storing local historical facts that probably lack enough references to qualify for Wikipedia articles. Dumping it all on Commons is completely backwards though, and there's zero indication that Atwngirl even tried other options before adding the information to the categories. From what I can tell she isn't even active on Wikidata. That's not on us and it isn't our responsibility to deal with just because she doesn't want to do it. Although, I'm more then willing to transfer some of it over to Wikidata myself if we can all agree about how to deal with it. There should also be some kind of acknowledgment on Atwngirl's side that she just use Wikidata in the future. I'm not going to take the time to make sure the information is preserved and stored in a more appropriate way if she's just going to continue doing it though. Also, I like @Chris.sherlock2: 's idea of "nutting" this out more formally. It should really be in the guidelines somewhere not to use categories as pseudo Wikipedia articles or Wikidata entries. That said though, I think we can separate the (likely) need for a broader discussion about it from this specific incident and deal with it regardless of if there's nothing formally in the guidelines. Most things on here are informal and we still deal with them. As a side to that, I don't think moving the information to talk pages is the best way forward either because the information is still available in the edit history and it just passes the problem up one more level in the chain without actually resolving it. There's fundamentally zero difference between a category and a talk page when it comes to what the purpose of the project is, which isn't to be an alternative to Wikipedia. So Category talk pages shouldn't be used as pseudo Wikipedia articles anymore then the categories themselves should be. Which means there's only two options here. Transfer it to Wikidata or delete it. Period. Let's also "nut" it out in the long-term though. But again that doesn't mean we can't deal with this now on it's own merits. The information in the categories is clearly excessive and needs to be cleaned up. --Adamant1 (talk) 14:03, 26 February 2023 (UTC) I think the commenting out is the best of the ideas I've seen: preserves what is potentially useful (albeit unsourced and in the wrong place), keeps it out of users' collective face. Wikidata might be a good idea, but someone should first check there (wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat) about whether they'd want this given the lack of citeable sources. @Atwngirl: it would be very helpful if you would participate in this conversation. I'd hate to do something this large to your work without your participation, but by ignoring us you are leaving us very little choice. - Jmabel ! talk 17:34, 26 February 2023 (UTC) If the consensus is to "hide" content on the category pages, then that's fine as long doing so doesn't create some "new" problem that's going to be sorted out at some point down the road. It should be explained to Atwngirl as to why this was done so as to possibly avoid any wholesale reverting on their part which puts everything back where it was. Some editorial judgement might be needed in some case if the "first paragraph" is insufficient on its own to provide an acceptable description of a particular category. I tend to agree with Adamant1 about moving stuff to the talk page since that seems not too different from hosting on the category page itself. I don't know very much about Wikidata. If the consensus is that Wikidata is a more suitable place to host the content, then that's fine. I added a {{Please see}} template to Atwngirl's user talk page on February 6 and you (=Jmabel) have just added another one. Atwngirl posted the following in September 2022, I do not post much to commons right now, as I have a newborn to take care of here. The real world affects us all and perhaps they're just too busy to currently devote any of their time or energy to this matter. If the consensus is to wait a bit longer, then so be it; however, this should be resolved in some way at some point. Maybe while waiting a bit longer to hear from Atwngirl, it would be better to split off into a new discussion to discuss either enhancing what already exists or developing something new to address category pages or pages in general that seem to be pushing the boundary of COM:SCOPE#Wikimedia Commons is not an encyclopedia, dictionary, guide, or book. If the place to do that is here or at COM:VPP, then cool. If it's better to do so at Commons talk:Project scope, then cool too. Since it seems like a big change that could affect lots of existing pages, maybe a COM:RFC would be the best way to discuss such a thing like this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:00, 26 February 2023 (UTC) Wikidata might be a good idea, but someone should first check there (wikidata:Wikidata:Project chat) about whether they'd want this given the lack of citeable sources. I can guarantee that most of this can be sourced and fairly easily. Maybe not up the standards of Wikipedia, but Wikidata has a much lower notability bar. Just to pick a random example, Category:Lehigh Valley Trust Company (there's a totally ridiculous and unnecessary amount of detail in the category BTW), it took me literally two seconds to find this source that has their funding date. So there's really no excuse for the information not to be in Wikidata. Let alone for it to be in Commons completely unreferenced. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC) Do you know if we can use the <ref> tags at Commons? I have a number of categories for stuff that wouldn't fit into Wikipedia but is notable enough for Commons. I'd like to be able to reference it like I used to with Wikipedia. I was, even if I do say it myself, a very good article writer :-) I'd like to hold myself to the same standards on Commons. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 03:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC) We don't normally use the <ref> tags at Commons, because almost nothing on Commons should have a complicated set of references requiring footnotes. You can cite your references inline. - Jmabel ! talk 07:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC) That’s what I’ve been doing. Thanks. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:56, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Current discussion

The following was written by User:Atwngirl in the archive, and was deleted because archives should not be edited. Reviving it here. - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

* I have been in hospital for some time due to an automobile accident and have not had real access to my computer. Not that I was in much of a state to go to Wikipedia, but now I am home and signed on today, seeing all of this.

• Okay let me explain some things I see are being asked about. I'm from Allentown and have been doing local history since the mid 90s Started as a hobby which I enjoy as I work in a very technical and different world. I started actually posting things like postcards and matchbooks, and became interested in all of these old places. So I started using this as basically a repository for things I've learned about the places.. Over the years I've been doing this as a hobby, and learning and following all of the rules about catagorizing everything. It makes it easier to find things. Also i've added a lot of my own photographs of all of the changes that has gone on in Allentown. Yeah I suppose some of the pages I've written a lot, as I've looked through the Morning Call archives. These aren't the scholorarly research kind of things you find on Wikipedia. but I do use Wikimedia commons to put up images and old ads that are interesting. Basically it's my repository of what i've found and I can share it with the public. I don't interact at all actually with most of the people on wikipedia, and i'm suprised this has been found out of the millions of pages here.
• I don't do much editing on Wikipedia, just the one catagory of Mayors of Allentown which I have done a lot of research about and that is all documented as it's supposed to be. Also I've written some of the history of Allentown on that page. If I've done 100 edits over the years on wikipedia, that's been a lot. Basically Commons is my filling cabinet of research, and PLEASE don't delete my notes. Or give me time to download the files as there isn't a backup of any of it.. But I do like to share and that's why it's here, for others to enjoy
• Thank you for letting me contribute to this discussion.
• 07:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC) Atwngirl (talk) 07:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

END of copied content. - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Atwngirl: Amazing work! The notes are not deleted, the previous versions are always available when you look at "history". I formatted all your mayor data for Wikidata. See wikidata:Talk:Q99627141. You can migrate the few images that may be under a currently active copyright to a free Flickr account which will hold 500 images. You can always start a second one if you go over 500. You can add the images and your text to Familypedia, I have admin rights there. You can just copy and paste them there in their entirety, it uses the same wiki markup. If your entries get accepted to Wikipedia, you can just cut and paste them to there. Wikidata links directly to Familypedia. Familypedia is a Fandom website, a for-profit wiki started by the same people as Wikipedia. --RAN (talk) 00:56, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
• @Atwngirl: You have done an amazing job, and I applaud you for your hard work! I think the main issue is that commons doesn’t really have a great mechanism for storing this data. However, that said if you go into the history you can find everything you added. That said, I don’t have an issue with the content, but is there any of it that can be migrated to Wikipedia?
  For all of us; I am wondering if we would allow commons Uploader s to make notes in user pages so they can refine more succinct summaries? That would be disruptive for Commons, and would help as a “scratchpad” for compiling information for condensed summaries for categories. Would anyone object to that? It would allow lots of detail in a non-category or main space page that is useful for the editor, in much the same manner that Atwngirl is making notes. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Is there any reason why such a scratchpad needs to be on Commons user page? Can't notes just as easily be kept without doing so on Commons? On English Wikipedia, registered accounts do have one primary sandbox and other user sanboxes can be created in the user namespace. So, if some of this content is eventually intended to be added to Wikipedia at some point, there's no reason why it can't be added to en:User:Atwngirl/sandbox instead of Commons. If it's intended for personal research or just for storage purposes, then it probably would be better off being maintained in some way other than Commons or Wikipedia. I'm not sure Commons has a strict of a policy regarding user pages as English Wikipedia does, and I also don't know whether Commons user account can created sanboxes in their user space, but it seems at the very least a user page shouldn't really be being used as a free web host for content not usually considered appropriate for Commons. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    Someone like myself is unable to use Wikipedia. Is there any reason why a scratchpad cannot be a commons user page? I have often needed to write extensive notes on places I've been to, it would be very useful as a user page. I can then summarize the material as necessary. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 02:58, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    In general, if someone's account is in good standing on English Wikipedia, then they should be able to use your user sandbox to work on drafts or whatever as long as it complies with the userspace policies and guidelines of English Wikipedia. If they're able to use Commons but unable to use English Wikipedia, then perhaps that's because they're being prevented from doing so for doing things that they probably shouldn't have been doing. FWIW, I'm not passing judgement on anyone specifically, only pointing out that because that option isn't available to one user, it still may be available to others. If you look at en:User:Atwngirl/sandbox, you'll see that is what they have been doing; so, there's no reason why they can't create a new page or new pages in their user space for their text content on Commons; of course, they will need to make sure it complies with en:WP:UP, but it's one possibility. I don't see a user sandbox for my Commons account, and maybe one was never added because nobody thought there was a need for one since Commons is primarily for hosting files. It seems there was an attempt to create a policy/guideline for Commons' user pages at Commons:User pages, but it was rejected. So, that leaves Commons:User-specific galleries, templates and categories#User pages. While it doesn't specifically say you can't user your user page for notes, it does state that it's OK to create a subpage in one's Commons' userspace. Whether that means it's OK for notes or other things kind of depends on how you view COM:SCOPE#Excluded educational content I guess. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    Thanks, I appreciate the considered response :-) For myself, even if I could edit Wikipedia, I would feel incredibly uncomfortable doing so. Not everyone on Commons wants anything to do with the drama of Wikipedia. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 05:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    There are also plenty of users who don't want to have anything to do with the drama on Commons, which is one of the reasons for en:Template:Keep local and the third bullet point of en:WP:F8. Even so, if youthey're going to edit on one or the other, then youthey're going to need to comply with the relevant policies and guidelines that are in place. If youthey don't like a policy or guideline for some reason, youthey can try and get it changed, but youthey can't really ignore it once youthey've been informed about it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:48, 30 March 2023 (UTC); [Note: Marchjuly edited the post to change "you" to "they" to avoid confusion per below. -- 08:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)]

    Just to be clear, are you say I’m ignoring a particular policy? - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:02, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    The "you" in my previous post was the "general you", it was not referring specifically to you or anyone else. Since it seems to have caused confusion, I've changed it to "they". -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    Thanks :-) I genuinely appreciate your input, and I apologise if I have seemed a bit prickly. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 09:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• As long as the content is OK per COM:SCOPE, then there should be no issues with Commons hosting it. However, as seen from the above comment reposted from Atwngirl's user talk page and also from another comment Atwngirl subsequently posted on their user talk page, I think there are some concerns related to COM:SCOPE#Excluded educational content that might still need to be sorted out. Some of what Atwngirl posted above seems to imply that they're using Commons as a place to keep their personal research, either for future reference or to share with others. It's great that they're into researching Allentown and its history, but Commons is not really a free web host for them to publish their research, and there might be better sites or ways (as suggested above) which they can use instead. These other sites or ways might have less restrictive policies and guidelines than either Wikipedia and Commons, and also might provide Atwngirl with better control over things. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  I'm trying to understand the harm in keeping notes in userpages in commons, at least as it pertains to preparing summarised description pages. What is the issue with doing so? Is there any harm? - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 02:59, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  You keep asking "What's the harm?" but I'm not sure there's any way to answer such a question other than to say it has to be in accordance with relevant Commons policies and guidelines. There's lots of things that could be done on Commons (and the various local Wikipedias) that probably wouldn't meet the definition of "harm", but they're not allowed because the relevant community has decided not to allow them. COM:SCOPE states that Commons' main purpose is to host files, not someone's quasi-articles based on their own original research; in other words, it's not intended to be a free web host for content that falls outside of its scope. That's why there's something like COM:PARTYPICS for people simply uploading personal photos which may have very minimal if any educational value who see Commons as simply an online photo album to share with their family and friends. There's probably no real harm to that as well, but it's just something that the Commons community has decided shouldn't be allowed. If the consensus that there's no issue with these descriptions per SCOPE, then that's fine. That was, after all, the point of my starting the original VPP discusison about them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  Sure, and it does actually seem to be in scope. The scope being, preparation to write a summary on a category page. That's not outside of the scope of Commons. It's much the same as me preparing a list of sites for me to go to in order to take photos. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 05:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  Once again, it seems (at least to me) that you can do all of that preparation stuff outside of Commons, and you will have much more control over things. Perhaps others will leave you alone to do things as you please in your user space and you can then add such descriptions to category pages once you think they're ready. Even then, though, someone might not agree with your final version and it might end up being subsequently and signficantly changed if there's a consensus established in favor of doing so. The wmf:Terms of Use is, after all, the same for Commons as it is for English Wikipedia, and any text you add to Commons can be changed because of the way you license every time you click "Publish changes" as long as it done in accordance with relevant Commons policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:00, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  The preparation work could be done at home or whatever, but for work that is useful for Commons, you should be allowed to use Commons facilities, regardless of other options. I also think users in good standing should be allowed quite some leeway in using their user namespace also for other personal notes etc. –LPfi (talk) 08:00, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  That’s sort of my point. I think the likelihood of someone deliberately coming along and editing a scratchpad on a user space page in a legitimate manner is fairly low. I mean, it’s frowned upon to exit someone else’s main user page, I’m not sure why anyone would edit the user page if someone else uninvited! - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  • [I presume "exit" => "edit"] - Jmabel ! talk 15:14, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

    Thank you :-) - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 16:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  Most experienced users, as you say, most likely would leave another user's page alone out of courtesy as long as there were no serious problems that need addressing; however, that doesn't mean such pages can't ever be edited by others. I'm not sure whether Commons has anything similar to en:WP:UP#OWN, but it's important to remember that user pages aren't ours per se in the sense that we own them; we're only sort of borrowing them and they go away as soon as Commons/Wikipedia goes away or we start using them in ways that aren't considered acceptable. In addition, it seems a bit unwise for someone to keep all of their original research on their user page and not keep another record of it outside of Commons as a backup. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:05, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  That’s a fair comment. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 12:51, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  I could also host all my photos on another site under a CC license. And I could make a list of all the places I’d like to visit on a piece of paper I guess. Why would I though? If I’m editing on commons in a transparent manner, then I’d prefer to do it in commons. I’m not sure I understand the objections to preparing material under user pages. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 08:09, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

If the material discussed is intended to be publicly shared, I don't think user pages are the best venue – that approaches the "free web host" concept that we don't want. To the extent this research is useful for putting the files in context, I think it should be on official pages. Perhaps category subpages could be a working solution? There they wouldn't be in the way of anybody, but easily available (if linked) for anybody who wants to check the details. The user may want to keep the material also elsewhere, as consensus on whether to keep the pages may change.

Whether or not this sets a bad precedent can be discussed: for serious research, such as my impression of Atwngirl's work, I think there is no problem. We might not want personal essays on a lot of categories, but for categories without (good) Wikipedia articles, they may be useful. Such educational content is not strictly in scope (and cannot be consistently curated), but unless severely misleading it supports the goals of Commons in facilitating the use of the files, and should not be deleted just out of principle. Server space is not an issue, as a mediocre photo uses as much space as a thousand pages of text.

Another approach is to use Wikibooks. I suppose each category concerned could be covered in a chapter of a book written over there. However, I don't know what Wikibooks in English regards as their scope. We should not force Atwngirl to move there before we know that this content is indeed welcomed.

–LPfi (talk) 08:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for inviting me to take part in this discussion. Yes, I am aware that commons is an image repository, and Wikipedia is for articles. How what I have shared up here has evolved from collecting postcards, then matchcovers, then Trade Cards (a 19th century form of advertising), and over the years, basically everything I could find from Allentown's history, according to your rules here, old photos, photo's I've taken, I've shared here in commons. Most importantly, I've catagorized everything so I, and others can find things. So it never was a mess of things. And i've added categories and locations, and dates as part of that.

The text began basically because I am a history junkie. And I would look up things in the old newspsper files of the several newspapers that Allentown PA, my hometown, has had over the years. Most are just short blurbs, but yes some are longer and I could go back and turn them into Wikipedia articles. However, most of the category pages really aren't notible. A dry cleaner that started in 1910, was well known in Allentown for 80 years, then went out of buisness is good for local history.. but on Wikipedia.. Someone from Salem Oregon or Berlin, or anywhere out of the local Allentown area really don't know about it, and don't care about it, for example. (Category:Mary MacIntosh Services, Allentown, Pennsylvania)

Anyway I'm a user of commons and yes I contribute to this repository. I am presuming most or all of you are admins. Reading through these comments you're all well-versed and more knowledgeable than I am. However, now that i've drawn your attention with what I've contributed over the years, I would like to request that I can rename and delete categories and images Mostly for misspellings.

Again, thank you for this forum and a chance to contribute. Whatever you decide is fine, as you're admins and that's what you do here. For now, I'm still recovering my health for now and building up my strength so I won't be contributing for a while yet.

Take care Atwngirl (talk) 18:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Atwngirl: as far as renaming images, please see Commons:File_renaming#How_to_rename_a_file. You could apply for filemover privileges to be able to make the moves yourself rather than have them reviewed, but I suspect that, given your own admitted lack of familiarity with a lot of the policies here, you might not be granted those privileges. Similarly, for categories, if there is an outright misspelling in a category name, that should be an uncontroversial move, and you can request it at User talk:CommonsDelinker/commands - Jmabel ! talk 22:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Atwngirl: For the topics that are of Wikipedia-level notability, it would be great if you could expand your content into Wikipedia articles. For the rest of this, I do think you should take seriously the suggestion above that if a lot of your purpose here is to organize your own notes on topics of only local notability and to make them available, you might want to consider starting a Fandom wiki about Allentown and migrate some of your content there (or establish any other sort of site). What you are doing seems, on the whole, commendable, but as several people have noted, it's not really in Commons' scope, especially insofar as it is notes for yourself and you don't want other people editing it down on the basis that it doesn't really fit Commons' scope. Part of the reason for that is that, unlike Wikipedia, Commons lacks the institutional infrastructure to vet this sort of content in any detail. Wikipedia editors keep each other honest (as does their requirement for citation), but when encyclopedia-like content appears in Commons (especially without citations), which is organized to be a media repository, it can take on an appearance of being authoritative without undergoing suitable vetting. Consequently, if we get a lot of such content, some of it is going to be "bad" and undermine the credibility of the site. It's not that your content is bad per se, it's that this site isn't (and won't be) equipped to handle it appropriately. - Jmabel ! talk 22:41, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

اصلاح جميع مايتعلق بالحسابات

اصلاح جميع مايتعلق 199.195.249.55 20:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• This appears to me to be near-nonsense. If there is a question here, please rephrase. - Jmabel ! talk 15:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Vector artwork version of Japan First Party logo

Currently there is only a small png file of the Japan First Party logo available on Wikimedia. I was able to extract and create a vector svg version, without the accompanying japanese text, from an official JFP pdf pamphlet off their website, for a personal graphic project I'm working on. The Wikimedia page states "This logo image consists only of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain." I thought it might be useful to someone if I were to upload it, but I'm not sure if I would be breaching copyright rules, or if I even have the appropriate privileges to contribute. Please advise. Dbootle (talk) 05:10, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Dbootle. Have you tried taking a look at COM:SVG? If the original logo is too simple to be eligible for copyright protection in the US (where the Commons servers are) and in Japan (the likely country of first publication), then a vectorization of the logo might be considered a "slavish" reproduction per COM:2D copying or might be considered a derivative work per COM:SVG#Copyright, depending on which argument you believe to be more correct. If you do the vectorization yourself, then any possible copyright associated with the vector version would (I think) be owned by you and you could upload it to Commons as long as the original logo was PD or otherwise freely licensed. You could upload the file with one license for the logo and one license for the vectorization. There might be a problem, however, if the vectorization was done by someone else. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:07, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes. If your work is a "slavish reproduction" (i.e. you try your best to be true to the original, without making any creative choices), then it has no copyright in itself in most jurisdictions: if the original is too old or simple to have a copyright, then yours have no copyright either. If, on the other hand, you do enough creative choices in the process, then the result is a derivative work. If the original wasn't under copyright, then yours may or may not be, but if it is, then it's you who own that copyright and you can license the result as you wish. If the original was under copyright, then you must respect its licence: for "share alike" licences like CC-BY-SA you need to use that licence also for the derived work. –LPfi (talk) 08:37, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

About Story

I want to ask that can I upload a fictional story written by me? M.Y.Jonathan (talk) 01:16, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• See Commons:Project scope. Commons is for media, not text, free licensed, realistically useful for an educational purpose. So unless you think you have a good argument why it would fit in scope, Commons is probably not an appropriate place to upload your fiction. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 01:20, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
  • Stories written by yourself may be in scope for Wikibooks, but only if they have an educational use (such as stories written for school textbooks on physics). If you get it published, then it may fit Wikisource. Otherwise you probably have to find a host for your story outside the Wikimedia family of projects. –LPfi (talk) 08:42, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Help

May I know the license for the Image I just uploaded? MP1999 ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 08:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MP1999 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

How could we know? If you took the photo yourself, then it is up to you to choose licence (unless you have a contract saying otherwise). It seems you chose CC-BY-SA 4.0. If you aren't the photograph, but found the photo, then you need to use the licence the copyright owners chose (and change the "own work" claim). –LPfi (talk) 08:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

This photo was taken by me. MP1999 ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 09:05, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• @MP1999: then I recommend {{CC-BY-SA-4.0}}, but make sure you understand what it means to issue a license before you do so, because you cannot revoke it. - Jmabel ! talk 15:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

  Because I am new to commons. I am learning from you guys. MP1999 ^{(talk) |Contribs)} 15:50, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

my entry

I have submitted my pics of Indian tribal festival . how can I will get further information of this contest Tawaranil (talk) 12:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

1. @Tawaranil: Please see COM:Categories, because you haven't categorized these correctly.
2. I assume this is about Commons:Wiki Loves Folklore 2023. Normally, I'd suggest asking at Commons talk:Wiki Loves Folklore 2023, but it looks like no one is answering questions there. @Tiven2240: you seem to have been involved majorly with the contest, can you answer this question? - Jmabel ! talk 15:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

   Hi @Tawaranil all these images are added to the Contest. ✝iѵɛɳ२२४०^{†ลℓк †๏ мэ} 16:13, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Загрузка фотографий с сайта Яд ва-Шем

Приветствую! На сайте Яд ва-Шем имеются фотографии людей, которым присвоено звание «Праведник народов мира». На сайте Яд ва-Шем указано, что возможно добросовестное использование мателиалов в образовательных целях. Я могу загрузить на Викисклад фотографии с сайта Яд ва-Шем для использования в Википедии?

Safirochka (talk) 13:45, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• No. Commons does not ever accept images on a "fair use" basis. We accept only images that are either in the public domain or free-licensed. - Jmabel ! talk 15:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Why, when I enter “Molly Ivins,” do I get Mary Tyler Moore?

Question says it all. 2603:6010:5F40:54F0:EDEF:8BD:1CA6:39F7 13:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• Except for where you entered it. - Jmabel ! talk 15:26, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Does this image meet the threshold of originality. Are the shapes and text basic enough for it to not be under copyright protection

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_baby_club_logo.png Wimopul (talk) 17:42, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

COM:TOO UK. It’s a British logo so the required level is quite low. --Geohakkeri (talk) 17:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Вікі любить фольклор» 2023

Як і куди завантажувати фотографії? Anatolii Dzhygyr (talk) 18:27, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Adzhygyr: Look at the upper right of Commons:Wiki_Loves_Folklore_2023/ru, where it says "Создать учётную запись". - Jmabel ! talk 20:49, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

MP4 video

Hello and thank you. I'm trying to upload an MP4 video of 17 seconds but your platform will not accept this.... Nwando1 (talk) 09:54, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Nwando1: MP4 is not an accepted format. You can use https://video2commons.toolforge.org/. See also COM:Videos. Yann (talk) 09:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Using Commons

Your suggested tool to upload an MP4, refuses me access, on the grounds that I do not have up to 50 edits and, that I have misused something or other, which I have not....can you suggest an alternative means of uploading an MP4. Nwando1 (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Nwando1: you'll have to convert it client-side to an acceptable format. See COM:VIDEO. - Jmabel ! talk 17:28, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Jmabel "Satz mit X, war wohl nix." - Es wäre besser gewesen, zu sagen "konvertiere nach webm". Nun hat Nwando1 das Video nach "mpeg" konvertiert, was vermutlich mpeg-2 bedeutet und tatsächlich hochgeladen werden kann. Es wäre halt besser gewesen, wenn es webm geworden wäre. Die verlinkte Hilfeseite sagt leider nicht, dass OGV, mpeg1 und mpeg2 eigentlich nur Frage kommen, wenn ein Video bereits nur in einem dieser Formate vorliegt. Oder dass bei webm VP9 bevorzugt werden sollte, weil besser als VP8 und weil bei AV1 auf Wiki die Vorschaubilder leider streiken. C.Suthorn (talk) 00:52, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

If that still doesn't work, you can try uploading it somewhere else (e.g. Vimeo), with an indication of the free license you are granting, and someone else can upload it here on your behalf. - Jmabel ! talk 17:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you ALL that offered advice. I downloaded a video converter app and converted my mp4 to mpeg. So much appreciation for your warm spirit. Nwando1 (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Artwork with untraceable background

I am trying to upload a painting which I cannot find the original source for. I have only found two links which have a simaler/same image, https://www.flickr.com/photos/21216702@N07/2063036064/ https://deramithatiwana.tripod.com/page1001.htm

Is there a way I can upload this image without fear of it being taken down? Usingh0663 (talk) 16:17, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Usingh0663: No. I see no reason to think this image is either free-licensed or public domain. - Jmabel ! talk 17:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

I am trying to upload a high quality *.tif file but am getting errors

I have copyright approval from a university archive to upload a file (photo) of a notable person for a Wikipedia biography. I am getting file verification errors. The file is just over 22MB and is high-quality. Again, I have received explicit permission from the library archive to upload; however, cannot. Thank you! Ebonsign (talk) 18:41, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

What is the exact error message? Ruslik (talk) 18:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Successful Upload?

Dear Admin, for this Wiki photo and video competition, are you able to tell me if my submission has gone through to the completed stage? Thank you so much. Nwando1 (talk) 18:48, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Nwando1: There is nothing on the pages indicating that they've been entered in any contest, but more to the point: this content appears to have already appeared elsewhere on line with no indication of a free license, and has therefore been nominated for deletion. If there is a good explanation (e.g. if you are the same person who originally uploaded them elsewhere), you need to sort that out. - Jmabel ! talk 21:52, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Saving a draft page

How to I save a new page I am creating. Pomfret watcher (talk) 19:25, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Pomfret watcher: with "Publish changes". But are you sure you are on the right site? Not a lot of reason for most relatively new users to be creating pages here on Commons, other than the implicit creation of a page when you upload a file. - Jmabel ! talk 21:54, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Learning that my entries were accepted

How do I learn if my entries were accepted int e Wiki Loves Folklore 2023 photographic contest?

Thank you. Archibucky513 (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

• @Archibucky513: File:Fancy Shawl dancer.jpg is correctly done. You can tell from the {{Wiki Loves Folklore 2023 country|1=Canada}} and {{Wiki Loves Folklore 2023}} in the source. On the other hand, it still needs topical categories and probably a better description (in particular, where was this?). - Jmabel ! talk 21:58, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Are transparent-background derivative images out of scope?

Can a create derivative files where the only change is that the new file has a transparent background, or is that out of scope? Thank-you, Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Edward-Woodrow. I'm not sure what you've described above would be considered "creative enough" to be a derivative work. It actually sounds more like a case of COM:2D copying than not. In order for something to be considered a derivative work, there has to be enough new creative input added to an existing work to generate a new copyright for the derivative. I'm not sure making the background transparent would necessarily be sufficient to do that. Is the file you're asking about already on Commons? Can you provide the file's name if it is? Perhaps it would be easier for someone to give you a more specific answer if they knew exactly which file you're asking about. As for COM:SCOPE, simply making the background transparent also wouldn't necessarily make the file out of scope, but that could depend on the specific file itself. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

An example: Teacup.png (with transparent background) and Oorkop uit het 'Swellengrebel theeservies' met een dubbel gekroond monogram en band met bloemranken, AK-RAK-2005-1-14.jpg (the original) Edward-Woodrow (talk) 21:46, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

@Edward-Woodrow: Yes, that is welcome, and I think you've handled it mostly correctly. You might also want to use {{Derivative works}} on the original. - Jmabel ! talk 22:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Alright, thank-you very much. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 22:06, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Fan art.

What if, it’s a picture of a fan character who is, while in the universe of something the user didn’t make, is a character who they did create. Think like, … Any self insert o.c. in existence. Such as, instead of Superman, it is just a Non-canonical character taking a selfie in front of a sign reading “Welcome to metropolis” Wyi the guy in the green hoodie (talk) 15:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

@Wyi the guy in the green hoodie: I can't really understand your question, nor its relevance to Commons. Could you clarify? What help are you asking for? - Jmabel ! talk 18:01, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• Sounds like you're trying to figure out how to sort of get around Commons:Derivative work - one problem is that as one gets further away from a notable original, it is less likely to be useful in Commons:Project scope. I'll suggest that energies and talent would be better spent on in scope original content if you wish to contribute here. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 17:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Bagaimana bila semua wikipediawan di beri kartu identitas dari Wikipedia kadang ke lapangan memfoto sekolah di tanya identitas Wikipedia.Sebaiknya semua pengurus dan wikipediawan di beri tanda pengenal dari Wikipedia terima kasih sebelumnya.dari Satelit BM 9

Bagaimana Bila Pengurus Dan Wikipediawan Di Beri Tanda Pengenal Wikipedia Kadang Bola Mau foto Ada Yg Nanya Identitas Wikipedia Trima Kasih Pengurus Dan Semua Wikipediawan Semoga Masukan Saya dapat Respon Baik dari saya Satelit BM 9 SATELIT BM9 (talk) 06:16, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

What if all wikipedias were given an identity card from Wikipedia. Sometimes when they went to the field to take a photo of the school, they were asked for their Wikipedia identity. We recommend that all administrators and wikipedias be given identification from Wikipedia.

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What if administrators and Wikipedians are given a Wikipedia ID. Sometimes a ball wants a photo. Someone asks for Wikipedia identity. Thank you, administrators and all Wikipedians. I hope my input will receive a good response from me.

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:12, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@SATELIT BM9: Hai, dan selamat datang. Tampaknya Anda sedang mencari Kartu pers. Silakan lihat n:WN:AP.

Hi, and welcome. It appears you are looking for a press pass. Please see n:WN:AP.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 14:12, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

File:Police Regional Office Cordillera seal.png

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/philippinetelevision/images/5/59/PNP_PRO_COR_logo.png/revision/latest?cb=20230111013430 Justin Kurt E. Toboso (talk) 04:57, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

• Can anyone make out what help this user is asking for? - Jmabel ! talk 05:15, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

@Justin Kurt E. Toboso: Hi, and welcome. What makes you think that the seal of the Police Regional Office Cordillera complies with COM:L?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:15, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

English

HELP ME TO CREATE AN ACCOUNT TO FACEBOOK Asanda Luyolo (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

We cannot help you with a different website here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:54, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

@Asanda Luyolo: Hi, and welcome. On https://www.facebook.com/ you may click the button "Create new account".   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:10, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Mirrored Image: Picture differs in different sizes

Hello, may I kindly ask for help? The image is mirrored somehow!?

Please check different sizes of same image:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/09-NK_050_03_0013a.jpg/320px-09-NK_050_03_0013a.jpg (correct)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/09-NK_050_03_0013a.jpg/120px-09-NK_050_03_0013a.jpg (false)

Link to file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:09-NK_050_03_0013a.jpg

Thanks. --Sflori (talk) 20:50, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Convenience link: File:09-NK 050 03 0013a.jpg

All look fine to me. @Sflori: probably a caching issue on your end, since you appear to be the one who flipped it. Try looking with a different browser, it will be fine. And eventually it should settle out on your browser. - Jmabel ! talk 21:51, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I tried on two external machines in different browsers. The 120px version appears false on all machines. All other versions seem to be correct. :) May you please re-check? Sflori (talk) 21:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sflori: Still all correct, as it was. The caching may be happening somewhere "up the line". - Jmabel ! talk 02:24, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, inside commons, it seems to look fine. Could it be that the issue is related to the article in de.wikipedia? The image flips as soon as I click on the image inside the article in Wikipedia. The effect applies also on my mobile (mobile network, different browser). Link to article: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auflaufkurve Sflori (talk) 02:38, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Looks fine to me there as well. I remain quite certain this is some sort of caching issue and will eventually resolve. I don't see what further help anyone can give you. If you think there is a tech issue that needs addressing, you can file it on Phabricator, but I really doubt it will be anything new to them. - Jmabel ! talk 04:50, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I'm still convinced that there are some previews not correctly generated. But if it's not reproducable, there might be no solution currently. Thank you anyway for supporting! :) Sflori (talk) 10:17, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sflori: Reproducibility can depend on the regions of the world where the caches lie. It looks fine to me in the US.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 13:01, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

ResolvedYann (talk) 10:03, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

سبب حذف منشوري

ماهو سبب حذف منشوراتي بينما تكون منشوراتي مستوفية معايير الموافقة لانني اقدم روابط حقيقية فعلا Gf030 (talk) 22:29, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Reason for deleting my post

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What is the reason for deleting my posts while my posts meet the criteria for approval because I really provide real links

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:57, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@Gf030: أهلا ومرحبا. يؤسفني إبلاغك بأنك قمت بتشغيل Special:AbuseFilter/153 بمحاولة تحميل صورة jpg أصغر (<50000 بايت أو <2،000،000 بكسل) كمستخدم جديد عبر الويكي. الصورة التي حاولت تحميلها أصغر وأشرت إلى أنها عملك الخاص. عادةً عندما يقوم شخص ما بتحميل صورة أصغر حجمًا ، فهذا يعد انتهاكًا لحقوق الطبع والنشر مأخوذًا من الويب. يرجى تحميل النسخة الأصلية بالحجم الكامل منها ، بما في ذلك بيانات EXIF الوصفية ، ولكن قد يتم الحكم عليها بأنها معقدة للغاية بحيث لا تكون ضمن TOO في بلد المنشأ ، لذلك قد تحتاج إلى نشر إذن متوافق مع COM:L/ar لمثل هذه الأعمال على موقع الويب الخاص بك أو وجودك على وسائل التواصل الاجتماعي أو أرسل الإذن عبر VRT/ar. أيضًا ، ستبدو أي صورة نقطية خشنة عند تكبيرها ، لذلك قد ترغب في تحميل إصدار svg أيضًا. إذا لم تتمكن من الحصول على ترخيص متوافق ، فقد يستمر تحميل الصور إلى ويكيبيديا الإنجليزية أو ويكيبيديا العربية وفقًا لـ en:WP:F أو ar:ويكيبيديا: محتوى_غير_حر لأن لا نسمح بالاستخدام العادل هنا. إذا كنت تستخدم معالج التحميل الخاص بنا بدلاً من ذلك ، فيجب أن تكون قادرًا على تجنب هذا الفلتر 153. لا يمكنني الكتابة عن مشاركاتك المحذوفة بحد ذاتها ، ربما مشرف مثل Jmabel أو علاء يمكن.

Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/153 by trying to cross-wiki upload a smaller (<50,000 bytes or <2,000,000 pixels) jpg image as a new user. The image you tried to upload is smaller, and you indicated it's your own work. Usually when someone uploads a smaller image, it's a copyright violation taken from the web. Please upload the full-size original of it, including EXIF metadata, but it may be judged too complex to be under TOO in the country of origin, so you may need to post COM:L compliant permission for such works on your website or social media presence or send permission via VRT. Also, any raster image will look jaggy when scaled up, so you may want to upload an svg version, too. If you can't get a compliant license, the images may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia or Arabic Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F or ar:ويكيبيديا:محتوى_غير_حر because we don't allow Fair Use here. If you use our Upload Wizard instead, you should be able to avoid that filter 153. I can't write about your deleted posts per se, perhaps an Admin like Jmabel or Alaa can.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:57, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

IT用語辞典e-word　ABblock plusのポップアップ画面で見れない

同上画面出すとすぐにポップアップ画面で見る事出来ない（使用しているABbiock Plusの設定がマズイのか?) 困っている　何か良い方法ありましたら教えてください。連絡下さい　よろしくお願いします。 安達太良山男 (talk) 07:08, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

IT terminology dictionary e-word Cannot be viewed on the ABblock plus pop-up screen

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I can't see the pop-up screen as soon as I display the same screen (Is the setting of the ABbiock Plus I'm using wrong?) I'm in trouble Please let me know if there is a better way. Please contact me Thank you very much.

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

@安達太良山男: こんにちは、ようこそ。 AdblockPlus で、「BLOCK ADS ON This website: commons.wikimedia.org」のスライダーをオフ (左) に変更してください。 wikimedia.org のすべて、または wikipedia.org のすべてに対してそれを行うことができます。 広告は表示されません。この設定により、ブラウジングも高速になります。

Hi, and welcome. In AdblockPlus, please change the slider for "BLOCK ADS ON This website: commons.wikimedia.org" to off (left). You may want to do that for all of wikimedia.org or all of wikipedia.org. We don't serve you ads and this setting should help you browse faster, too.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 12:37, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Images from https://viralzone.expasy.org/

@Graham Beards: @Invasive Spices: Hello,

It looks like several images had been deleted that I had uploaded from ViralZone. For example:

Rotavirus genome.jpg

Rotavirus virion.jpg

Please note that although there may be a copyright note inside the image, the Viral Zone home page

https://viralzone.expasy.org/

tells on bottom right that all material is licensed under "Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License."

There has already been a discussion about this contradiction.:

User talk:Ernsts#Notification about possible deletion

The matter has been clarified with Philippe Le Mercier <Philippe.Lemercier(at)sib.swiss> early 2021.

An email correspondence by wikimedia commons admin (User:Invasive Spices) with Philippe and has been documented. The correspondence is available to trusted volunteers as ticket #2021020910004221 For details see File:Virus size.png#Summary.

For this reason I kindly ask you to restore the images.

Please let me know if there might be any further questions.

Kind regards. --19:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC) Ernsts (talk) 19:09, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• It looks like the person who nominated this for deletion reverted themself within a minute. Not currently nominated for deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 19:46, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I'm afraid the issue appears not yet been solved. Please refer to

User talk:Ernsts#File:Rotavirus genome.jpg

User talk:Ernsts#File:Rotavirus virion.jpg

Links to the images are still red:

Kind regards, --Ernsts (talk) 19:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Ernsts: Hello, It's ok to ask here for advice about what can be done, but please note that the best place to request undeletion of files and have someone actually act on the matter is the page Commons:Undeletion requests. I suggest that you copy your request over there. -- Asclepias (talk) 20:23, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Just done. Kind regards, --Ernsts (talk) 20:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

@Asclepias: Sorry, I cannot see my undeltion requests any more, neither did I receive any message about status change. So I'm returning to here with the matter. Undeletion is still waiting to be done. Please note that dozends of images from the same source all were accepted, at least after the initial discussion about my first uploads from there. Kind regards --Ernsts (talk) 14:46, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@Ernsts: These were indeed deleted by mistake. I undeleted these 2 files and reviewed the license. Please ask further undeletion on COM:UDR. It may also be faster to ask directly the admin who deleted them. In the future, it is best to ask for a License review. Thanks, Yann (talk) 15:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@Ernsts: When a request is removed from the main undeletion requests (UDR) page, usually it is because it was closed by an admin and archived in an UDR archive page for a recent month. This request is archived at Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2023-04#File:Rotavirus virion.jpg. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:48, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Logos

The Upload Wizard explicitly says Commons "doesn't want works created or inspired by others. eg logos". However Wikidata is full logos from here. Has something changed, or is there more info available? I'd like to add https://www.spar.at/etc.clientlibs/spar-corecomponents/clientlibs/clientlib-site/resources/images/logos/cafe-cappuccino-logo.png to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q117317760 CjMalone (talk) 09:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

• @CjMalone: Typically, logos are acceptable only if either (1) they are so so simple as to be ineligible for copyright (a different standard in different countries) or (2) the copyright owner of the logo grants a free license, typically through the COM:VRT process. This particular one looks pretty close to the line for copyright eligibility, but according to COM:TOO Austria has a pretty low threshold (e.g. just a name in cursive writing has been determined to be copyrightable there). I'm guessing you'd need an actual license from the owner of the logo. You might want to ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright, but I suspect they will give you the same answer. - Jmabel ! talk 15:58, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Jmabel: , that explains it.

Do you know of a third party place that collects this type of copyrighted content which links to, or linked from the Wikidata world? In the OSM world we have NSI that collects Facebook or Twitter profile image urls. Does something similar exist here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CjMalone (talk • contribs) 17:55, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@CjMalone: nothing I'm aware of. - Jmabel ! talk 19:07, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Daumier Register

There are hundreds / thousands of images in this page taken from the Daumier Register, i.e. [16]. We are very grateful for this, but many Daumier paintings and drawings that are listed here are NOT originals but fakes/copies. For example: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Daumier_-_DR9555.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Daumier_-_DR9528.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?search=honor%C3%A9+daumier+catalogue+raisonn%C3%A9%2C+daumier+register&title=Special:MediaSearch&go=Go&type=image and many more. If the contributor of Daumier images would differentiate between ORIGINAL and FAKE/IMITATION/COPY this would be more clear. An easy fix for this would be to link all images to the corresponding DR number in the Daumier Register. Once the user clicks on the link he/she will see all the details of this particular work including the technique and whether it is an ORIGINAL or a FAKE.

Thanks for your consideration, Lilian Noack info@daumier.org Honore2022 (talk) 08:45, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

Pinging User:Maltaper. The above message by the owner of the Daumier Register seems in substantial part about your uploads from their website. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

You can browse files related to Daumier Register by

• Category:Images from Daumier Register by Honoré Daumier
• Category:Works by Honoré Daumier by Daumier Register number
• Honoré Daumier catalogue raisonné, Daumier Register (Paintings)

Source of File:Daumier - DR9555.jpg is

{{Daumier register|9555}}

Maltaper (talk) 02:38, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

I created two categories and moved the corresponding images to them.

• Category:Images from Daumier Register by Honoré Daumier (Oil painting (AFTER DAUMIER))
• Category:Images from Daumier Register by Honoré Daumier (Oil painting (UNCONFIRMED))

Maltaper (talk) 16:43, 10 April 2023 (UTC)