User talk:Reke

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• Image:Nations by percentage of urban population living in slums.jpg was uncategorized on 10 August 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 13:32, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

nominations Taiwan

Hi Reke,

I have reverted your update on Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2013/Winners in part. I have not yet received officially the 10 url's via email as instructed. Please don't update the status yourself, because the status indicates if the nominations have been /processed/. If you update this yourself, you run the risk that we don't process them, and that they get lost half way. Effeietsanders (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	請問:不好意思，先前未收到通知，剛剛才看到太魯閣燕子口得獎，不知要如何處理?陳福堂感恩futom54115@yahoo.com.tw(手機:0918-109-764) Futom54115 (talk) 12:32, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

In case Solomon203 isn't that Nipponese dog

The Nipponese dog 🐶 is on the right.

I see that you have said that Solomon203 claimed not to be the Nipponese dog, but that you have no idea how the Nipponese dog looks like, the bloke on the right is the Nipponese dog and if Solomon203 is a different person then the picture you have of Solomon203 would look different. Also note that meatpuppetry (having similar editing habits as a banned user, even if those habits aren't disruptive) isn't treated differently from sockpuppetry here, so even if Solomon203 is a different person he or she could still be penalised for having something in common with that Nipponese dog. Is the picture you have of Solomon203 different than the Nipponese dog in this picture? Then you could request Solomon203 to be globally unlocked 🔓 at m:Steward requests/Global on the Meta-Wiki, maybe you could e-mail them the picture 📷 you have of Solomon203 to prove that they are not that Nipponese dog.

Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:37, 21 December 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.137.12.105 (talk) 13:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

半年前就是右邊那傢伙害我被全域封禁。--Solomon203 (talk) 13:37, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

@Solomon203: 如果有事證指出，他有盜用你的帳戶「Solomon203」，你是有權力可以向維基站務申訴，以取回你本來該有的帳戶，而不應該在這裡控訴。此外，建議你做好帳戶安全，避免被別人盜用。--Kai3952 (talk) 07:12, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you, Reke

Reke您好，感謝您的協助申訴，我的全域封禁終於解除。不知您是否還記得，半年前我們初次見面時我的口頭承諾？全域封禁解除後最優先上傳這張照片，是當時我的承諾。謹以此照片向您表達無盡的感謝。祝闔家平安。--Solomon203 (talk) 12:28, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

另有一問：當時您送給我的名片我留存至今，翻攝之照片上傳至此有無版權問題？--Solomon203 (talk) 12:47, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

請珍惜您的解禁，不要上傳一些奇怪的東西。--Reke (talk) 13:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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• File:The girl, by Li Mei-shu.jpg

Yours sincerely, shizhao (talk) 07:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Re: 我回退了您在 File:Meetup.jpg中的標註

Reke, I received your message. I already know that you can speak English well. If you have a problem with my edits, please you can discuss in English, so that everyone(including administrator) may understand what you say, OK?--Kai3952 (talk) 09:18, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Please look at File:2005TPWikipedians.jpg, and you called "王先生". Unless you are not 王先生!--Kai3952 (talk) 09:42, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Adpexx

打擾了潘麗峰 (talk) 15:02, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

請教滾出趣人生旅所英文全名

請問滾出趣人生旅所英文全名是不是「Rolling in Life」？想給滾出趣人生旅所創建分類，需要以滾出趣人生旅所英文全名為分類名，故有此問。--Solomon203 (talk) 12:50, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

這種分類不是很合適吧？這不是個足以佔據一個分類的著名空間。--Reke (talk) 13:58, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

比照Wikimedia Taiwan曾經進駐的卡市達創業加油站武昌起義。--Solomon203 (talk) 14:03, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 13:58, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

維基愛古蹟佳作得獎詢問

Reke兄您好，抱歉打擾了，有一事相詢。在臉書上看到我拍攝的這張照片獲選2018年維基愛古蹟的佳作，請問後續會收到得獎通知或獎狀嗎？謝謝！--靖天子 (talk) 22:44, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Earth 2019 in Taiwan

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Category:Disagreement Images of WLM 2019 in Taiwan

I noticed that you created a category called "Disagreement Images of WLM 2019 in Taiwan". I was wondering what you meant by "Disagreement Images"?--Kai3952 (talk) 20:42, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

This category is under Category:Work Area of WLM 2019 in Taiwan, so what does it mean just needed to be understood by the volunteers and organizer of Wiki Loves Monument in Taiwan 2019. Please don't do anything to all categories under Category:Work Area of WLM 2019 in Taiwan. Thank you so much.--Reke (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

You do not want others to edit?! That's OK. I will bring the issue to COM:CFD.--Kai3952 (talk) 07:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

See here. May I suggest everyone discuss this somewhere central like the category talk page for WLM 2019 in Taiwan? It doesn't require much more than a short discussion about how people think it should be organized. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:01, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Reke and Ricky81682: I don't think it is necessary to create the "Disagreement Images of WLM 2019 in Taiwan" category because every editor has the right to know how to use it. In other words, if only the WLM volunteers in Taiwan can edit, then this category is meaningless.--Kai3952 (talk) 09:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Kai3952揚言提刪的留言

Kai3952在我的討論頁新增這個話題，請問秘書長您的意見如何？--Solomon203 (talk) 09:50, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Kai3952以維基共享資源COM:L與COM:DW二大方針為由，大量提刪我上傳維基共享資源的痛車、痛機車、痛腳踏車照片，而不是其他人上傳的同類照片。依此論點，Category:Itasha及其子分類的照片豈不是都該刪除？請問這算不算浮濫提刪？--Solomon203 (talk) 12:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

Re: 戶外藝術品著作權

請問你是哪位？--Kai3952 (talk) 07:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

我看了，那麼請問你是哪位？--Kai3952 (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

維基的動作以外的問題？你總得要告訴我，你和那張照片的關係吧，畢竟作者署名是「素素」。如果你當我問「你是哪位？」是在無理取鬧，你怎麼不反過來想想，萬一照片是你的，反而大家會認為是我無視你，那麼你在special:diff/513833079所說的不就變成是給別人看，所以我必須要確認，更何況你叫Reke，作者署名又不是「Reke」，怎麼樣也不能怪我無理取鬧吧？--Kai3952 (talk) 12:13, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

好吧，我就回答你：

• 第一、COM:FOP Taiwan寫很清楚，規定：「Not OK for indoor works and outdoor 2D artistic works」，後來經查這筆紀錄是你刪掉規定，那麼你認為僅憑你個人己見就姿意刪改，我會聽你的嗎？
• 第二、你在special:diff/513833079所言「麻煩自己好好思考一下……還是自己該基於對別人上傳心血的保護，多一點查詢……」有二個問題：
  • (1)你處事的心態是對人不對事。正確的心態應該是拿著你跟我說的話去找社群討論修改COM:FOP Taiwan，因為問題源頭是這裡，如此才有助於解決。所以你與其訓斥我不懂判斷，為什麼你不去好好思考你自己，怎麼沒把你給別人的期望由你自己去實現呢？我又沒阻止你去參與commons.wikimedia規定的制定以及提議怎麼樣改善照片提刪能有更嚴謹的把關機制。
  • (2)你不適應commons.wikimedia。要嘛是去遵守規定，要嘛就是按照既有流程（找社群討論或報告管理員）去設法解決。
    

最後我想向你澄清我的職責，我是為commons.wikimedia服務，而不是為你或為那些人所上傳的照片去服務，更何況你是把愛護別人心血的這個莫名重擔要我去扛下，所以我沒那個義務和責任去做到你在special:diff/513833079所言，請不要把我當成是某人的保母，一切都按照commons.wikimedia既有的規定以及流程去走。我希望這次是你最後一次對我在commons.wikimedia執行的做法指手劃腳，否則你只是在干擾，除非你像Jeff G.、Jmabel這些人對commons.wikimedia很熟悉，那麼我才可能會聽你的，因為他們並不像你會忽視，也不像你會錯判事情，明明是制度面、管理面的問題應該由社群商議解決，反而你會把眼界放在執行者身上，甚至視為某人是破壞者或製造麻煩，他們和你根本是二個世界的人，所以他們從來不會像你這般對待我，我當然會聽他們的話。--Kai3952 (talk) 13:30, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

既然你拿出「不要墨守成規」，那麼請你去COM:AN/U舉報我毀人心血且難以溝通，看管理員如何裁決。還有，你再說下去也只會惹人厭惡，所以我不會去問人，就衝著你這種待人態度，我可以肯定告訴你，得理不饒人只是突顯你這人根本是來吵架，只發生這一張照片就對我糾纏沒完沒了，更何況照片不是你拍的，憑什麼我非得要聽你的話不可？如果你可以舉證出我有破壞或大量惡意提刪照片，我非常歡迎你去找管理員。--Kai3952 (talk) 16:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

請看看special:diff/514189411，我已經替你問了，你對我行事態度不滿就去找他們說。僅管我把毀人心血的責任就推給規則，你現在還不是拿我無可奈何，你就算說「就是這樣的態度才會老是惹人厭惡」，我也不會聽你的話，因為你自己到處對人說我有病，難不成你這樣態度就不會惹我厭惡，而我就應該被你人身攻擊？如果你要我去為別人的心血設想，去做到你所說查證，除非你刪除你之前散布我有病的言論，否則難以取信你說的是對的。光是你說我有病這件事，你從頭到尾一直沒有提過，甚至還把責任推給維基媒體協會的工作是在為溝通過程中受到不舒服的用戶，你看看你這樣子行事態度和我有何不同，還不是找理由推責任，所以你拿我的過錯去掩飾你的虛偽，請問你是不是應該先向我道歉？你有什麼資格怦擊我、訓斥我？--Kai3952 (talk) 18:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

我知道了，原來你是趁這機會去為你所謂那些不舒服的用戶報復，所以你才會用以牙還牙的態度去對我，難怪你會說「就是這樣的態度才會老是惹人厭惡」這種話。既然如此，我想請問你，你到處散布我這人有病，加上你現在的態度對我說話，你的用心是不是想告訴我，要我主動離開維基百科？--Kai3952 (talk) 23:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

如果不是，就請你把那位照片拍攝的作者叫「素素」給找出來，由他去談這件事，那麼我一定會聽他的話去改進，並且向他表達我的歉意，因為你口口聲聲說我破壞別人的心血，只不過是你為那些曾與我溝通不舒服的用戶報復，好讓我感受出當初我是用怎樣態度待人，比如「你什麼都不查，反正毀人心血的責任就推給規則，就是這樣的態度才會老是惹人厭惡」這句話，你就是想表達那些不舒服的用戶不是欠我的，但是我在中文維基也對你說過，是你自己要管太多，還拿臺灣維基協會當理由，明明是你自己的問題。既然你一心只顧你自己，對於我說的話都不在意，反而什麼事推到我頭上，那麼我打算考慮我以後做什麼事要不要去無視你說的話。你既不自己去做，還一直反嗆，若是按照你「你什麼都不查，反正毀人心血的責任就推給規則」這麼說，不體恤commons人力短缺，工作量繁重，然後我跟你回答是按照規則，你又不爽我推責任，還一直糾纏我這件事不放，我怎麼看你一點都不是在討論事情，你句句都在說我這個人怎麼樣。就算我有去查證，每張照片所發生的版權問題有那麼多種，不可能只憑這一次發生，我聽你的話就能日後免除全部問題好嗎？你在commons.wikimedia審查照片的經驗也沒說多麼豐富又老練，一直對我指頤指氣使，你這樣子非但我不會聽，而且我還會痛罵你。你有本事氣我、訓我，為何你不敢找管理員舉報我，你是拿我當發洩你情緒工具是不是？--Kai3952 (talk) 23:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

此外，毀人心血是可以救回來的，你在維基媒體協會是不是待太久而不常來維基百科，中文維基有zh:Wikipedia:存廢覆核請求，commons.wikimedia也有一樣的機制，找到授權頁的網址可以在Commons:Undeletion requests申請恢復被刪的照片，怎麼你不知道？--Kai3952 (talk) 23:56, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

轉發Kai3952寄來的e-mail

今早，Kai3952寄e-mail給我，全文如下。事關COM:FOP Taiwan，請您上線回應一下吧。

您好，由於事出重大，攸關您拍攝的照片能否留下或刪除。如果您是大量拍攝是關於「戶外繪畫」或「室內繪畫」，比如：戶外牆上的彩繪、廟內的彩繪，因為commons有一條方針是FOP-Taiwan，規定「Not OK for indoor works and outdoor 2D artistic works」，所以你在任何地方所有拍攝繪畫的照片可能會面臨刪除之危機。

雖然此問題我在去年有發現，但直到今年11月21日被Reke告知，無奈是他不願解決，而我多次向commons詢問都無人回應。若是繼續沒人理，我想恐怕未來只能依照「Not OK for indoor works and outdoor 2D artistic works」規定，將所有照片刪除。因此，其嚴重性可見之大，不得不特來告知。

為了避免你照片遭刪除，除了我去聯繫很多台灣人前來關切之外，最重要的是你身為拍攝作者，我們應該集結所有每一位作者的力量，一起向commons那些不重視台灣的老外給予施壓，迫使他們重視，使他們修改FOP-Taiwan方針，甚至是退讓，允許我們暫時可以保留所有在室內及戶外拍攝繪畫的照片。

若此事不處理，縱使我沒去提刪照片，那些老外也會去提刪。為此，要避免被人提刪，最終辦法仍然是從FOP-Taiwan下手。無奈是，Reke身兼台灣維基媒體協會的要務，理當能明白維基的運作環境，卻不聽我提出的解決方案，反倒痛罵我把責任推給規則，所以這問題拖了一個多月仍沒解決。

目前我正在等候當中，因為有很多類別涉及到繪畫的照片，而分類工作也因此受到影響( 可能有類別會被刪除 )，甚至停滯，勢必要從commons得到明確的答案，或者有共識去修改FOP-Taiwan方針，我才能知道下一步該怎麼做，所以我需要你我一起合作，向commons那些老外求得重視台灣人的照片，並呼籲他們對FOP-Taiwan有爭議規定之處著手檢討。

--Solomon203 (talk) 03:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

轉發Kai3952寄來的e-mail之二

剛才Kai3952又寄e-mail來，全文如下。

『我已經收到Reke答覆，他以為修改他動手修改FOP Taiwan就算了事，絲毫不管眼下問題仍然存在，並非我活在程序幻想當中，而且我也找過好幾個人問，他們沒有人在意我與Reke發生什麼事，只有他一人認為我是對方針解讀有問題。他打從心底就對我有偏見了，就算沒問題，他依然當我是有問題，那麼他要我怎麼辦，我唯一能做的就是幫他收拾善後。

你看看他修改FOP Taiwan之後是怎麼寫：https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/Taiwan&type=revision&diff=513835035&oldid=486033128

我看到的是他寫「Not OK for indoor works」，你看他這叫問題解決嗎？他不管那些室內繪畫，照樣會有人照片被刪除，那麼他參我一本有何意義……誰知道他是不是為了照片。Reke現在說的話依然與之前一樣的態度，句句衝著我而來，他就不能理性點嗎，你能否勸勸他？

如果他在意的我按照FOP Taiwan提刪照片，那是因為我看之前人家提刪照片沒問題，所以我才大膽提刪，然後不知道為什麼Reke突然跑來說我沒有去查《版權法第58條》規定就貿然提刪，可是我都已經提刪了，最好解決辦法就是修改FOP Taiwan，誰知道他痛罵我推卸責任，因此我代替他去找commons社群問，討論連結在這：https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Help_desk/Archive/2020/11#User:Reke_feels_that_my_actions_are_destroying_the_precious_and_valuable_works_of_other_users

按照Reke和他們的討論，我是沒看出結果，所以我找Clindberg討論。其實我寄信給你之前，問了很多人，Clindberg是其中一位。我認為找他討論應該比較可信，因為他與Reke討論最多。按照Clindberg對FOP Taiwan的解釋，他認為戶外繪畫應該沒問題，有問題的是室內繪畫，因為《版權法第58條》存有模糊空間，他無法判斷室內繪畫是否允許FOP，並且他強調這在未來會有爭議。他的原話寫在這：https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Clindberg&oldid=519199541#Taiwan_FoP_-_Image_for_painting_in_Taiwan's_temple_to_use_as_own_work_of_Commons_user

現在受影響最大的就是Boattoad、Outlookxp二人，因為他們拍攝的「廟內繪畫」最多。我所謂「室內繪畫」，只是我對 indoor 2D art works 另一種稱呼，實際上範圍很廣，從私人的室內空間到公共的室內空間。舉凡是寺廟彩繪、車站大廳的地板彩繪、捷運車站的壁畫、餐廳用餐區牆上的畫作、政府機關大廳的彩繪公共藝術、公司企業裡辦公室放置的畫作、博物館畫作展示品……等。

《版權法第58條》只有挶限於戶外，對於室內並沒有規定。如果說版權法用意是禁止商業行為，而不是禁止拍攝或轉載，那麼為何 Clindberg 認為拍攝此類的照片是有問題呢？我不相信是我個人對 FOP Taiwan 解讀有問題，否則 commons 社群也不會拿這方針去提刪照片。也就是說，如果我們要保留照片，Reke所寫「Not OK for indoor works」規定勢必要再修改，要嘛就移除此段爭議規定，要嘛就是再寫清楚規定，定義適用範圍，否則不要說是我個人問題，恐怕未來那些老外問題會比我更大。

這不是嚇人，你可以在commons隨便查就能找到，過去有多少張照片是因為FOP Taiwan而被老外提刪掉。我投入 commons 快四年，也只有這一次以FOP Taiwan為由提刪照片。誰知道Reke不明究理認定我以前一直以來在做毀人心血的事，真不知道他對我的敵意何時消除，否則我真的很難與他溝通，那麼對事情當然就沒有幫助。就像你看見，Reke留下爛攤子給我，我只能找各位求助。』

--Solomon203 (talk) 13:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

@Solomon203: 用不著轉給我啦，他寄給超多人提出他的幻想。維基愛古蹟第一屆到今天七年了，沒人以FOP-Taiwan刪過廟宇壁畫。哪些室內拍照可能違規、哪些不會，一般人都有 common sense。原本的法條就是留有裁量空間的，commons 不可能自己生出明確的規範來。然後會像他一樣找錯標的去提的不多，以前用這條去刪的其實都沒問題。--Reke (talk) 12:36, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Reke: 了解。另在此請教台灣維基媒體協會會址問題。--Solomon203 (talk) 13:19, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

@Solomon203: ，會址有改，請依meta上的新資料。但請不要再無預警跑去，有任何問題先打電話問過適不適合去。--Reke (talk) 13:27, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

關於臺灣FOP的事宜

鑒於在HD的討論已經告一段落，我現在把Aymatth2和Clindberg的意見整理，敬希參閱：

• Aymatth2認為臺灣版權法允許以平面方式重制立體作品，但不允許以平面方式重制平面作品；並認為您提出的智慧財產局有關例子（建築物的塗鴉）屬於建築物（立體作品）的一部分，因此為臺灣FOP中的特例。其也認為最低限度的概念以及有關司法解釋有助厘清FOP條文的界限。（見User talk:Aymatth2#Taiwanese FOP Problem-Aftermath）
• Clindberg認為雖然共享傳統上認為臺灣的平面作品沒有自由的FOP，然而您的例子證明了我們的法律觀點可能有誤，且基本上支持您的看法；並認為法律條文和實際操作可能有別，因此需要法院判決，司法解釋或法律意見論證。（見User talk:Clindberg#Taiwanese FOP Problem-Aftermath）

另，司法院公報（含s:zh:Portal:著作权法律法规#司法解釋）未能找到有關臺灣FOP的司法解釋或指導性案例。希望您能夠根據有關意見做出相應的提議，如在COM:VPC提出修正COM:FOP Taiwan的討論，謝謝，並祝編安。廣九直通車 (talk) 13:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

@Reke,我嘗試在這裡聯絡你，但這看來是別人和你溝通的標題，我不知道要怎麼開啟新標題，抱歉 吹笛牧童 (talk) 15:17, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello，我是 吹笛牧童

好，看來是新增標題成功了，但我仍有疑問：這兒能刪除舊文嗎？做個測試 吹笛牧童 (talk) 15:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC) 刪除舊文也成功了，這讓我對維基的機制產生很多疑惑；好吧，先不管，我們假設善意使用者不會濫用。

Reke 你好，我是 吹笛牧童，也是 PTT 上的 HuangJC. 很高興能學會這個機制在 wiki 上與您聯絡。目前我對於 wiki 上的討論機制仍然不熟，而且我的英文程度也仍然依靠 google 的整段翻譯在補強。能看懂一些，但不代表不會有誤會。 我看到一些關於我的討論，但是我插不上話；大家可以在別人的討論串下面做回應，目前我還沒學到那兒，此其一。 其二是我很難拿捏一些表達，而這是所謂的"做人"，不是任何維基編輯技巧可以做到的。 我的理念是：如果甲乙兩個人吵架，不是說甲沒有錯，就必需把所有錯推到乙身上。有可能是誤會，而且這世上的誤會還真的很多。 原諒我不擅長使用連結連去討論地點，關於 OTRS 的討論，我的想法是：不合規定的照片，刪除即可；我並沒有抗議。

請見到 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Minorax#%E8%AB%8B%E5%95%8F%E7%AE%A1%E7%90%86%E5%93%A1%EF%BC%8C%E5%B0%8D%E6%96%BC%E6%9F%90%E4%B8%80%E4%BD%8D%E4%BE%86%E8%87%AA%E5%8F%B0%E7%81%A3%E7%9A%84%E4%B8%8D%E5%90%88%E4%BD%9C%E7%B6%AD%E5%9F%BA%E7%94%A8%E6%88%B6%EF%BC%8C%E6%88%91%E5%8F%AF%E4%BB%A5%E6%80%8E%E9%BA%BC%E8%BE%A6%EF%BC%9F 這個網址，其下關於 "請問管理員，對於某一位來自台灣的不合作維基用戶，我可以怎麼辦？" 這個標題的討論，我已經做了回應，並且我不知道要怎麼插入討論。 從 "Hello,我是吹笛牧童，不合規矩的照片請刪除" 這裡開始，到 "處理不來，那就冷處理。 讓它被刪掉就好了，問題就變得很單純。" 這裡，我覺得已經表達夠完整了。 我希望可以明確表達出，這就是溝通不良，但我沒有責怪別人，我只是想把事情放著冷處理。

另外我住頭份，我也很希望能參加新竹的聚會（當然疫情當前就先暫緩），我相信這能極大的幫助到我熟悉 wiki 的操作，而不會讓我一直不能滿足別人的期待，老是被人說"你一定會，你就是找藉口不做"， 的確是，我終於學會怎麼到你這裡留言了，但仍然有很多是學不會，就差臨門一腳的。

如果能夠得到你的協助，我會很感激，謝謝 吹笛牧童 (talk) 15:45, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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考慮上半年COM:FOP Taiwan之爭議迄今無果，建議今年臺灣暫停舉辦WLM一年

目前這種情況下，如果今年依然堅持舉辦WLM的話，一來WMTW很可能本身有被藍綠拉扯攻擊之憂慮，二來部分也會越發引發基於此規則之更大規模的提刪運動，而WMTW甚至還要一個個爭取向VRT備案，這只會無形中讓WMTW受到超越人類想象空間的壓力，WMTW旗下服務器甚至隨時面臨越發超高的DDOS風險。Teetrition在今年上半年干了什麼，我覺得我們都能有目共睹，既然已經被割了一塊肉，又被薅了一把羊毛，我其實也不希望社群再被掏空了一個臟器。 Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 15:38, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

古蹟一般都已經超過著作權保護期限了。不過如果真的引發大規模提刪並不差，比較容易直接請文化部下去介入。 Reke (talk) 19:53, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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