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Hello, Berdea!
Tip: Add categories to your files
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Catégorie:Lomener[edit]

Dear Berdea, I see you've created "Catégorie:Lomener". However, all namespaces on this project are in English (see the language policy). I have added the template {{Speedy}} to request deletion of "Catégorie:Lomener". ;) Please ask any questions you might have. Yours sincerely, Mathonius (talk) 00:09, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I make a mistake and I have asked for the deletion of this "Catégorie:Lomener". Thanks--Berdea (talk) 00:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Erreurs[edit]

Bonjour, merci pour le signalement, j'ai essayé de revoir la situation en faisant entre autres les renommages. Vérifiez que ce soit ok, sinon dites le moi. Merci. Sebleouf (talk) 10:25, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merci pour les renommages. Apparemment tout a bien fonctionné. Il reste une image à renommer (erreur de chapelle) et depuis votre message, j'ai refait quelques erreurs avec des demandes de renommage à la clef. Merci en tout cas pour votre aide.--Berdea (talk) 10:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chapelle Notre-Dame-de-Vie de Mougins - Tableau de Maurice Gottlob 2.jpg[edit]

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Merci de vérifier aussi les plans que vous avez photographiés pour cette chapelle, ils sont eux aussi probablement sous droit d'auteur. --Miniwark (talk) 20:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment puis-je vérifier que les photos prises des différents plans peuvent versées dans Commons. Ils ont été prises en présence de la conseillère municipale en charge des travaux de restauration. Bien cordialement.--Berdea (talk) 22:05, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Église_Sainte-Catherine_du_Cannet_-_Panneau_de_présentation.jpg[edit]

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File:Chapelle Saint-Barthélémy de Mougins - Présentation.jpg[edit]

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Wknight94 talk 14:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chapelle Notre-Dame-de-Vie de Mougins - Élévation.jpg[edit]

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Wknight94 talk 14:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chapelle Notre-Dame-de-Vie de Mougins - Projet de restauration 2.jpg[edit]

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Wknight94 talk 14:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Wknight94 talk 14:36, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Villahermosa del Río.jpg[edit]

Bonjour, hélas pour cette nomination je ne suis pas sur que l'on puisse revenir en arrière, moi je n'ai fais que confirmer les résultats du robot. Mais un des administrateur qui fréquente la page (Jee ou A.Savin par exemple) pourrait certainement mieux te répondre. Par contre une solution pourrait etre de la nominer une deuxième fois. Meme processus mais il faut mettre /2 après le nom du fichier comme ceci : Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Villahermosa del Río.jpg/2 tout en expliquant bien la raison qui te pousse à nominer cette image une seconde fois, en l'occurence qu'elle ait toutes ces chances au meme titre que les autres. L'erreur est humaine après tout. J'espère t'avoir aidé. -- Christian Ferrer Talk 19:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Maps of Catalonia[edit]

Category:Maps of Catalonia es una subcategoría de Category:Geography of Catalonia, que ha su vez es una subcategoría de Category:Catalonia, por lo que añadir en Category:Catalonia a Category:Maps of Catalonia es una inclusión reiterativa.--JT Curses (talk) 15:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edicions arbitràries?[edit]

Bona tarda, Berdea: He observat que fa unes setmanes estàs fent edicions de pobles de Catalunya com aquesta de la Granada. Et detallo a continuació les incorreccions que hi veig:

  • Elimines la categoria "Populated places in Alt Penedès". No s'han de treure categories posades per altres editors a no ser que siguin òbviament errònies, que no és el cas. L'editor Jtcurses ha esmerçat molt de temps i esforç per organitzar aquesta categoria. No la destrossis.
  • Afegeixes la categoria "Municipalities in the province of Barcelona". No cal, perquè ja té la de "Municipalities in Alt Penedès" que penja de l'anterior. Has posat una categoria redundant.
  • Canvies la posició de les coordenades deixant-les en primer lloc. Per què? No has observat que TOTES les categories de pobles de Catalunya tenen en primer lloc la descripció (amb l'enllaç a la Viquipèdia), ID del monument o espai protegit (si s'escau) i finalment les coordenades? Respecta, si us plau, les edicions dels altres i evita modificacions tan arbitràries com aquesta.

Ja no em poso en la clau d'ordenació de les categories "Cultural heritage monuments in ...". Tu hi poses "Monuments". Jo hi tenia un espai en blanc perquè volia que la categoria quedés en lloc preferent a la categoria del poble. En aquest tema (i en altres) ja no sóc bel·ligerant. He tirat la tovallola.

Tornant a les categories dels pobles, crec que hauries de revertir les edicions que has fet amb anterioritat. De les coordenades ja me n'encarrego jo.--Isidre blanc (talk) 15:31, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

La Category:Municipalities es una subcategoria de Category:Populated places by type, o sigui també subcategoria de Category:Populated places, de manera que, seguint el model de les categories superiors, es correcte que Category:Municipalities in Alt Penedès sugui subcategoria de Category:Populated places in Alt Penedès i, si els municipis són inclosos en les dues categories, seria redundant. Aquí, no només a Catalunya, també a Espanya, les categories de municipis i de "llocs habitats", no s'han fet servir sent una subcategoria una de l'altra, sinó que unes s'han fet servir per als municipis i l'altra per a les entitats menors de població (aldeas, pedanies, etc.), el que no sembla correcte tenint en compte el model de categories principals.--JT Curses (talk) 19:49, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Les meves edicions no són arbitràries. Per contra, que es poden escoltar bé impugnats (disculpi el meu català que no es mol bo) :
Sincerament. --Berdea (talk) 09:48, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Les categories no serveixen perquè es pugui veure que un municipi pertany a una província, sinó per classificar. Això, en tot cas es pot fer en el text de descripció (afegint si no existeix). Però no es poden fer inclusions redundants, que un arxiu o categoria estigui inclòs alhora en una categoria i en una subcategoria de la mateixa, encara que estigui diversos nivells per sota. El d'incloure les localitats menors en "Populated places", també és redundant si "Municipalities" és una subcategoria de l'anterior, perquè ja estan incloses en les categories concretes de cada municipi i, per tant, incloses en "Municipalities" i "Populated places".--JT Curses (talk) 19:07, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi ha una altra raó perquè no es pot penjar "Municipalities" de "Populated places": hi ha molts municipis (a la província de Lleida n'he comptat 25) que no són llocs habitats. Per exemple: aquesta edició de Jtcurses de Castellet i la Gornal, no està bé, ja que hi ha posat la categoria de "Populated places.." sense ser-ho (Castellet sí que ho és, i la Gornal, també, però Castellet i la Gornal, no). En canvi, aquesta edició de la Granada és correcta i hauria de ser la definitiva, puig que és una vila i municipi ensems. Encara hi ha el tercer cas: una vila que no és municipi, exemple Category:Sant Genís (Jorba) que va només a "Populated..". Abans d'embolicar la troca, es mantenien les categories de "Municipalities.." i de "Populated.." per cada província per separat. No es barrejaven. En la primera només municipis i en la segona qualsevol ciutat, vila, poble o nucli habitat (fos o no un municipi). Tal com es pot veure encara a les províncies de Tarragona i Lleida. Si es volen desglossar per comarques, penso que caldria mantenir el mateix criteri. Suposo que és el que pretenia fer en Jtcurses.--Isidre blanc (talk) 22:35, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Je me permets d'ajouter un autre argument : les habitants d'une commune sont habitants à la fois d'une comarque (avec le conseil comarqual comme administration locale) et d'une province (avec la députation comme administration locale). Même si toutes les comarques appartiennent à une province (sauf la comarque d'Osona), il peut être intéressant de bien marquer cette double appartenance. Par ailleurs c'est vrai qu'avoir toutes les communes dans une seule catégorie simplifie de travail de recherche et modification sur Commons.
Permetin-me afegir un altre argument: els habitants d'un municipi viuen al mateix temps en una comarca (amb el consell comarqual com el govern local) i en una província (amb la diputació com el govern local). Fins i tot si totes les comarques pertanyen a una província (excepte la comarca d'Osona), és interessant per a marcar clarament aquesta doble pertinença. A més, és cert que tenir totes les ciutats en una categoria de treball simplifica la recerca i la modificació en Commons.--Berdea (talk) 10:14, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

J'ajoute une observation. Considérez-vous utile d'ajouter dans la catégorie liée à une commune (voir par exemple la Category:Mollet del Vallès), un encadré avec le blason, le drapeau et l'emplacement dans la comarque. On trouve ces informations dans l'article sur Wikipédia et cela me semble inutile de les remettre sur Commons, d'autant que blason, drapeau et emplacement sont déjà catégorisés. Qu'en pensez-vous ?
Afegeixo una observació. ¿Es considera útil afegir en la categoria vinculada a un municipi (veure per exemple la Category:Mollet del Vallès), una caixa amb l'escut, la bandera i la ubicació en la comarca. Trobem aquestas informacions en l'article en la Vikipèdia i sembla inútil de tornar los à posar a Commons, especialment pel que el escut, la bandera i la ubicació ja estan categoritzats. Que en penseu ? --Berdea (talk) 10:31, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Si quieres hacer las cosas en Wikmedia según las normas establecidas, no se puede incluir una página o archivo de manera redundante en una categoría y una subcategoría de esta, excepto en categorías especiales consensuadas y anecdóticas, por lo tanto incluir una categoría de municipio en la categoría de la comarca y en la de la provincia, sólo se puede hacer cuando la comarca no está incluida en la provincia por que no hay coincidencia en el territorio, tal como pasa, como tu dices, con Osona, pero tambien con Selva, Cerdanya y alguna más. En cuanto a lo de incluir banderas, escudos, etc. en administraciones territoriales es algo que yo recuerdo se hace desde que yo conocí la Wikimedia. Porque la manera de dar información a quien accede a la wikimedia es a través de los encabezados, no de las categorías, cuya función es clasificar y para que sea funcional no puede contener redundancias. Obviamente, la Wikimedia no es la Wikipedia y esa información tiene que ser básica, no desarrollar temas, pero tampoco puede forzar a navegar a otros lugares, Wikipedia incluida, para obtener un dato básico, como, en el caso de un territorio administrativo, serían la descripción, simbolos y localización, con los enlaces necesarios para acceder a la Wikipedia en caso de querer profundizar en la información. La Category:Mollet del Vallès ¿crees que no cumplía con todo esto? ¿crees qué, desencuadrando la maquetación, situando las descripciones por delante de todo los demás y con otra plantilla, sin encajar con la tabla de los símbolos, y haciendo el encabezado ocupe muchísimas más líneas y escondiendo más las subcategorías y los archivos contenidos debajo de la pantalla (no todo el mundo accede con grandes resoluciones de pantalla), es lo correcto?
--JT Curses (talk) 14:06, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Si us plau , en català ! --Berdea (talk) 15:15, 18 June 2016 (UTC)--Berdea (talk) 15:15, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Blason Es famille Beratarrechea (Baztan).svg[edit]

c'est quoi le problème avec ce fichier ? --Chatsam (talk) 17:30, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Il n'y a aucun problème avec ce fichier, j'ai simplement rationnalisé les catégories en créant la catégorie Category:Coats of arms of families of Baztan qui permet de distinguer les blasons familiaux des blasons de la commune. Par ailleurs tous les fichiers de type svg sont bien à classer dans une catégorie adéquate Category:SVG coats of arms of families of the Basque Country. Concernant le missing permission, je pense qu'il s'agit d'une erreur de manipulation qui a été corrigée dans ma modification suivante. --Berdea (talk) 22:54, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Vitoria-Gasteiz[edit]

Ok, thank you. Un saludo. Anna (Cookie) (talk) 03:23, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Inventory of languages[edit]

hi! i suppose this cat is designed to be a container of all individual languages? but its title is a bit unconventional imho. do you think it might be better named "languages by name", since we also have Category:Ethnic groups by name Category:Countries by name? RZuo (talk) 11:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You suppose well. I like "Inventory of languages" but I'm not against "languages by name". Can we have another advise ? --Berdea (talk) 11:13, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Linguistic maps of Central–Eastern Oceanic languages[edit]

Don't move this. "Central–Eastern Oceanic languages" is correct and "Central-Eastern Oceanic languages" is not. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:54, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain me why ? The use of other sign than "-" could create ambiguity. --Berdea (talk) 09:58, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you are coming back to my modification when you entered into discussion with me and our discussion was not over. It's not elegant. --Berdea (talk) 10:57, 14 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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