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Please do not recreate deleted content[edit]

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Your image or other content, File:Youra Livchitz (1917-1944).jpg, was recently deleted in accordance with our process and policies. You have recreated this content after it was deleted; please do not do this. If you would like to contest the deletion, please visit Commons:Undeletion requests and follow the instructions there to have the deletion reviewed. Recreating deleted content outside of process is not allowed, and doing so repeatedly may cause you to lose your editing privileges. Thank you for understanding.

—LX (talk, contribs) 16:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chant composé en l'honneur de Papa Merx - 1915.jpg[edit]

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.     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:29, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

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Affected:

and also
And also:

Yours sincerely, .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 17:50, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked for a duration of 3 days[edit]
You have been blocked from editing Commons for a duration of 3 days for the following reason: Repeatedly recreating previously deleted content in spite of warnings. Now you have time to read COM:L. Next time the block will be longer..

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--Steinsplitter (talk) 18:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair, you can block undefined. --Madelgarius (talk) 18:34, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unfair? Seriously? Your talkpage is full of warnings. --Steinsplitter (talk) 10:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I spent a lot of time illustrating fr:WP. I uploaded more than 500 files. In four years 30 have been deleted. You seem to say that's a fault to be noticed for deletion? Your decision is clearly unfair because you mixed editorial problems with behavioural one. Unfair because Lx recognize that the file youra livchitz is probably fallen on the pd. Jim propose half of my pictures to deletion on a single page then review a bit the list and remove the more obviously pd items. On fr:wp this could not happen or would be called harrassement. You interfere with this and use your tools without understanding clearly the situation. That's Unfair. --Madelgarius (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, please do not misquote me. I said that it may be in the public domain – not that it is probable. Since you have failed to provide any verifiable information about the file each of the three times that you've uploaded it, it is just as probable that it is not in the public domain.
Secondly, there is nothing unfair about this block at all. The first time you decided to go against consensus and reupload the file, you were given fair warning that doing so again would result in a block. You did it again, and you were blocked. Action – warning – repeated action – consequence. That's the sort of fairness most children come to terms with rather quickly. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this or the damage that your sloppy stance on copyright does to this project and its reusers tells me that three days is probably way too short of a block. —LX (talk, contribs) 14:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
En quatre ans, combien de personnes se sont-elles plaintes d'une image importée? [That's the sort of fairness most children...] Ow, ow, ow, on se laisse un peu aller ici... mais hélàs pour vous il y a bien longtemps que je ne suis plus un enfant, raison pour laquelle je ne comprends que trop bien que vous ne pourrez jamais me comprendre. Restez rigide, je resterai souple, sauvez le monde en retranchant, j'essayerai de l'améliorer en contribuant. pas la peine d'être désagréable pour autant. --Madelgarius (talk) 15:16, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ja, det vore onekligen tråkigt om någon skulle få för sig att bli otrevlig. —LX (talk, contribs) 16:01, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steinsplitter: I don't think this block was justified. This user made some mistakes, but I think he is of good faith. Regards, Yann (talk) 23:35, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Global deletion request[edit]

Could anybody place this post on the following page? Thank you
Quelqu'un passant par là pourrait-il placer le message suivant sur la page de discussion suivante? Merci

Je ne vais pas tout commenter mais relayer ici juste assez d'éléments pour expliquer qu'un traitement global de mes contributions n'est absolument pas justifié (j'ignorais d'abord que cela puisse se faire). Voici donc quelques commentaires:

already kept (since the procedure began)[edit]

Some more files to be kept (I am not exhaustive)[edit]

Bon, j'arrête là, en voici assez pour démontrer que le traitement "par lot" de mes contributions sur Commons n'est pas justifié et s'apparente fort à une chasse aux sorcières que je qualifie volontiers - c'est mon ressenti - de harcèlement et d'une volonté de vouloir faire passer son point de vue "en force" sans laisser la possibilité de s'expliquer (je suis actuellement bloqué pour trois jours). Bref tout ceci est disproportionné, déloyal et pour tout dire, navrant. Sur base de ceci, je vous prie instamment de clore sans suite cette requête et d'appliquer les règles de commons avec un peu plus de sérénité et moins d'envies de vouloir faire la leçon aux contributeurs dont l'unique crime est de vouloir illustrer Wikipedia. J'espère encore que des administrateurs disposant de davantage de recul pourront valablement intervenir ici pour apaiser les esprits. Je suis conscient que mon troisième upload du fichier Youra Livchitz ait pu être perçu comme vexatoire par certains. Dans l'analyse du fait, il ne faut pas perdre cependant de vue qu'en toute hypothèse - et de l'aveu même de celui qui a demandé mon blocage - cette photographie est probablement dans le domaine public. Le côté heurtant de mon enième upload doit donc être tempéré par un positionnement rigide, heurtant également, en vis à vis. Pourriez-vous m'indiquer enfin le lien vers la procédure de Commons qui permet de traiter en une seule requête l'ensemble des contributions d'un utilisateur? Bien à vous, --Madelgarius (talk) 12:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If the procedure is maintained, it's obvious that we will discuss picture by picture and certainly not according to one felt global on my contributions.
Si la procédure est maintenue, il est évident que nous discuterons image par image et non en fonction d'un ressenti global à l'égard de mes contributions.
I reserve the right to speak in French every time the sharpness of the language would be lacking to me in English.
Je me réserve le droit de parler en français à chaque fois que la finesse de la langue me ferait défaut en anglais
--Madelgarius (talk) 20:43, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pour m'en souvenir[edit]

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Retour d'expérience[edit]

Ce texte est destiné à figurer sur ma page utilisateur.

Plus d'infos sur moi, sur WP, ici. C'est un intérêt envers les logiques collaboratives qui m'a amené ici. Plus exactement sur Wikipédia en français où j'ai fait ma première contribution en février 2011. A ce jour, j'ai un peu plus de 20000 contributions là-bas pour 320 articles créés (et aucun supprimé). Très tôt, j'ai souhaité illustrer les articles que je créais. Mes premiers centres d'intérêts gravitaient autour de la ville que j'habite. Puis de la Capilla flamenca, puis de la Seconde Guerre mondiale, la résistance en Belgique, la Shoah en Belgique, la Première Guerre mondiale en Belgique, autant de thématiques qui ont éveillé et entretenu mon envie de contribuer à ce beau projet d'élaboration de savoirs collectifs. J'ai donc très rapidement croisé la route de Wikimedia commons. Mon premier upload remonte ainsi à avril 2011.

Sur Commons, je n'ai appris qu'à mes dépends, presque tout du long, et aujourd'hui singulièrement. Je ne catégorisais pas mes articles, la licence employée n'était pas la bonne (mais on ne me disait pas laquelle employer), il n'y a pas de liberté de panorama en Belgique. Au début, lorsque je modifiais un document, je pensais que par correction, je devais dire qu'il s'agissait de mon travail (oui, j'en souri bien volontiers aujourd'hui). La date du document était celle de mon upload... J'ai appris de suppression en suppression, de message peu sympathique en message froidement critique. Parallèlement, je progressais dans ma compréhension de Wikipédia qui restait l'objectif principal de mes contributions. Commons, il faut tenter de,... Puis on verra bien. Pas d'aide, pas d'accompagnement, que des censeurs qui se gargarisent de maîtriser (sublime arrogance doublement fallacieuse) mais qui n'accompagnent pas. Je m'en étais fait une raison en me disant que Commons, dans sa structuration même sélectionnait les gardiens de la doxa (vue de leur point de vue) qui mordaient les nouveaux et fabriquaient la relève en ne sélectionnant que ceux pour qui il est, aller, osons le mot, jouissif de tenir ce rôle et de dégoûter les impétrants. Une spirale vers l'autoritarisme plongeant le projet dans un oubli de ses raisons d'être. Ce problème est majeur sur commons. Bien plus tard, j'ai croisé des gens sur commons qui semblaient ne pas avoir perdu la proie pour l'ombre, qui semblaient conscients que le but de tout ceci, c'est d'illustrer un formidable projet multi-langues. 100 uploads, 200, 300, 400, 500. Une trentaine d'images proposées à la suppression. Pas toujours d'accord, certaines conservations obtenues, non sans batailles, certaines suppressions difficiles à avaler. Puis arrive l'illustration Youra Livchitz. Je vous invite à lire la teneur de cet article pour comprendre la suite. L'illustration est supprimée. Youra est mort en 1944, fusillé par les allemands (l'argument n'a aucun poids ici, j'en suis bien conscient, c'est juste pour que vous perceviez le contexte émotionnel de tout ceci. Suppression. J'attends quelque mois, reupload, mise en garde. En 2016, une année plus tard, je me dis mais bon sang de bonsoir, cette image va bien finir par être reconnue comme étant du domaine public: trois jours de blocage, l'ensemble de mes contributions sur commons proposé à la suppression: dans le doute, on supprime! Pas la possibilité de se défendre... Moche, très moche, injuste, très injuste. Je dois lire que je suis un vandale qui ment sur ses uploads, qui est paresseux au point de ne pas communiquer les infos. Certains se gargarisent de ma déconvenue. Unfair? sériously? disent-ils dans une langue qui n'est définitivement pas la mienne...

Contribuerai-je demain encore sur commons, je l'ignore et ceci dépendra grandement de l'issue de cette procédure que je juge inique. On ne propose pas à la suppression l'ensemble des contributions d'un contributeur vieux de cinq ans en lui ôtant la possibilité de défendre, de rectifier la caricature que d'aucuns lancent de lui-même... Unfair, definitively unfair. Sad, definitively sad. --Madelgarius (talk) 18:47, 4 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blocage de trois jours[edit]

@Steinsplitter: pourquoi avoir ajouté trois heures à mon blocage tandis que je vous demandais gentiment de me débloquer par mail? --Madelgarius (talk) 19:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I don't speak fr. --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Steinsplitter: Why did you block me for three more hours while I was gently asking you to unblock me when the delay was over? (I do not speak english either) ;-) --Madelgarius (talk) 19:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I never re blocked you. --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:14, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steinsplitter: So somebody made a mistake because I'm blocked now until 22:13 and before my mail it was 18:30... Mysterio! --Madelgarius (talk) 19:19, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No. Nobody touched the block. You are still blocked? If yes give me the block id. --Steinsplitter (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steinsplitter: This one? 258188 --Madelgarius (talk) 19:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steinsplitter: So? --Madelgarius (talk) 19:54, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Error: Block ID 258188 not found. It may have been unblocked already. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:03, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Steinsplitter: No, still blocked, you are better to block than to unblock are'nt you ;-) --Madelgarius (talk) 20:06, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
J'ai débloqué. Désolé pour ce nouveau blocage, c'était un re-blocage automatique, tu t'es connecté hier à 22:13 UTC sur ton compte pendant ton blocage depuis une autre adresse IP, donc le logiciel a bloqué cette adresse IP 24 heures. --Thibaut120094 (talk) 20:12, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Thibaut120094: If the user is unblocked, the autoblock is removed as well (24 does not matter). This here seems to be a bug (maybe it should be reported). I looked at the replicated db and there is indeed a autoblock in, which is strange. --Steinsplitter (talk) 20:44, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway, thank you. May be is there much more than this to report about it. --Madelgarius (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

La bonne procédure[edit]

Bonjour, J'ai vu que vous aviez demandé la restauration de Commons:Deletion requests/File:Youra Livchitz (1917-1944).jpg qui a été refusée. Avez-vous demandé à la source ([1]) des infos supplémentaires la concernant ? Cordialement, Yann (talk) 23:53, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Staf De Clercq (1884-1942) (2).jpg[edit]

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File source is not properly indicated: File:La Collégiale au début du XVIIe siècle.jpg[edit]

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File:Atomium.jpg[edit]

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Jcb (talk) 22:08, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maria Bianca Meda[edit]

Salut Madelgarius, Pourrais tu importer cette image du livre des Motteti de Maria Bianca Meda voir ici. En te remerciant et en te souhaitant une bonne journée, Mike Coppolano (talk) 08:51, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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