User talk:Jarould/Archive 02

File:Костел Успіння Пресвятої Богородиці 02.JPG to File:Костел Небовзяття Пресвятої Богородиці 02.jpg

Hi Jarould,

Could you please explain why you have renamed this file? The old name was not particularly wrong, it is the name according to the regional culture department. On the other side, the new name is an original research by User:Бучач-Львів, as there are no sources using this name at all. In my opinion this does not fall under criterion #3 of COM:FR as there is no obvious error here. Thanks — NickK (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

@NickK: Reasons for that new name will be given to you by Бучач-Львів. On the other hand, I will return the old name soon. Jarould [talk] 16:25, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

The issue is that Бучач-Львів is trying to push this name in Ukrainian Wikipedia, and I really don't think that renaming files on Commons is the right thing to do in this case. I do know that, in his view, the name he proposed is better, while renaming files should be done only when the original name is really wrong — NickK (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jarould! Ukr. uk:Успіння Богородиці transl. in English as en:Dormition of the Mother of God (in Spanish es:Tránsito de María). Ukr. uk:Внебовзяття Пресвятої Діви Марії (or Небовзяття) transl. in English as en:Assumption of Mary. This temple - Church of Assumption of Mary in Uman - is Roman Catholic, not Greek Catholic or Orthodox. Church of Assumption of Mary in Uman was built by Poles and in Polish read as Kościół Wniebowzięcia Najświętszej Marii Panny w Humaniu (pl:Wniebowzięcie Najświętszej Maryi Panny) what mean en:Assumption of Mary.

NickK is trying to push this name - as Костел Успіння (Church of Dormition) in Ukrainian Wikipedia, despite the facts: 1) that it only uses sources in the Ukrainian language (in my opinion, they are false and contradictory to the title) 2) en:Roman Catholic Church celebrates Assumption, but does not celebrate the Dormition. Sorry for so-so English. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 06:23, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@Бучач-Львів and NickK: I think they should both continue to discuss it at ukwiki, and request the renaming when there is consensus. Changing the filename will not solve the controversy in ukwiki (I know from experience). I reverted to the original name because the issue is controversial and I could not intervene in that (I don't speak Ukrainian ). Jarould [talk] 06:37, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

But you can read in English! --Бучач-Львів (talk) 06:40, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@Бучач-Львів: Yes, but the file name is in Ukrainian, not in English, and I consider that until the issue is resolved in ukwiki the file should not be renamed. Regards, Jarould [talk] 06:43, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

I just want to add that I think that even once the issue is resolved in ukwiki the file should not be moved. The name chosen by the uploader is not completely wrong, there are reliable sources that confirm it. Even if we have two groups of sources, one for Успіння and one for Небовзяття, the uploader has a freedom to choose whatever they like and we should not move from one to another — NickK (talk) 06:47, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Jarould! But you can read in Spanish (es:Asunción de María)! In addition, it's importantly what the author of file think about it.

NickK. Is not completely wrong due some outdated Ukr. sourses. In sourses in all other another landuages is completely wrong. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 06:50, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@Бучач-Львів: I still think that this matter should be resolved in Ukrainian Wikipedia, and I also see that the uploader does not seem to agree. I can not do much if he does not accept, especially since, as I said before, I do not plan to get involved in this controversy. Jarould [talk] 07:07, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

OK. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 07:10, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Alessandro Sil#Category names

Olá Jarould! Você agiu corretamente ao devolver os títulos das categorias em português. Entretanto, o modo como fez não foi adequado. Os históricos foram danificados. É preciso restabelecer os históricos originais das categorias. É preciso fazer a fusão dos históricos, quando possível. Saudações, Luan (talk) 15:40, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

@Luan: Olá Luan. I do not know if in Commons the history of categories can be merged (in ptwiki and eswiki is always done, but here is usually done in files). Hopefully if an admin proceeds the merge. Jarould [talk] 04:32, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Pensava que a fusão de históricos era algo disponível em todas as wikis. De toda forma, pelo que li na seção abaixo já começou a tentar recuperar o histórico original das categorias. Grato, Luan (talk) 18:14, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Flag of Mauritania (1959–2017).svg

Hi The file should be moved to File:Flag of Mauritania (1959-2017).svg because for all previous flag we use "-". --Panam2014 (talk) 22:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

@Panam2014: I do not think you should delete the script in the filename (remembrer, files should not be renamed only because the new name looks a bit better). As to whether the hyphen is used in English instead of the en dash, en dash is correct in date ranges and does not warrant correction. Another reason I do not think it is convenient is that the process of global renaming has not ended; the official flag has recently been changed in that country and many wikis continue to use the old flag instead of the new one. Continuous renaming that file would create chaos. If you still want to change the filename, go here. Jarould [talk] 23:17, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Category:Nature of Alcobaça, Bahia

Hi Jarould! I deleted the category as requested. Go ahead with your move. Best, --Hedwig in Washington ^(mail?) 02:20, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Jarould [talk] 02:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletions

Hello, I declined two speedy deletion requests. Please do not tag redirects as {{Speedy}}. Please read Template:FilemoverWelcome. Thank you. --Steinsplitter (talk) 18:34, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, I did not receive that automatic message. Neither does the guideline explicitly state that the redirection should be maintained is clearly incorrect. It should be placed on that page, and not just in that welcome message. Jarould [talk] 19:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Unjustified renamings

Hello, you should have declined all of these renaming requests with “Göttinger Gedenktafel”: Most of the filenames have been proper names, there have been only some ambiguous names (I was just in the proces of declining all these, but you came in between). As a file renamer you have to check, whether the reason is valid – here adaptation to a series was given, and this was just wrong: There have been no file with this name in the start, and also at least one of the requested files was already part of another series.

In general I got actually several times the impression, that you do renaming with a script, because you have been too fast to do it manually. Please, refrain from this practise! — Speravir – 00:19, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

@Speravir: Right now I am reversing some, but an "anti-abuse measure" is getting in the way. Anyway, you also send a message to the requester why you disagree. Jarould [talk] 00:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

In my first declining actions I added a note in the comment, but you are right, and I left a notice on the user’s talk page. — Speravir – 00:42, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

My image, File:Göttinger Gedenktafel - Korosi Csoma Sandor.jpg was also renamed without good reason, as it was not part of a set, and it was clearly labelled. - Illustratedjc (talk) 06:31, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Jarould, once again: do not automatically rename files! You have to check every time. Of course, we are human and make mistakes, but in my eyes you do this too often. Recent example: File:Grandes Serres mexicaine.jpg renamed by you, though in the file description clearly is stated “was formerly called, from 1836 to 2010, serre mexicaine”. — Speravir – 22:22, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

@Speravir: I do not make "automatically rename files" (wtf?). I always check and decline requests when necessary. If the photo was taken in 2011, and the subject in question was called "serre mexicaine" until June 2010, why can not "serre de Nouvelle-Calédonie" be used instead? This time you was not correct in your accusation. Jarould [talk] 23:30, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

OK, you are right here. Sorry for that, file it under “we are human and make mistakes”. The automatically refers to my observation, that you in the past did quite fast renamings. In fact I know, that you already declined renamings: I wrote something in a thread now in Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive 65#User:Jarould denying requests under criteria number 2. — Speravir – 00:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

@Speravir: Well, that case was resolved with discussion on their user page because there were discrepancies with the requests (obviously, the requester would insist on their point of view, but a report was not required on the administrators' noticeboard). But the fact that I quickly precedes a file renaming does not mean that I do not read the request, or that does not check the copyright status. I may be wrong, but I try to correct or revert it if necessary. Jarould [talk] 00:36, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Just for the record: I implicitely was on your side in this case. — Speravir – 01:10, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for your diligence. Jarould [talk] 01:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Good Evening and Hello

Good morning and thanks for your message and concern; I would like to explain a) that I am using in the title jf that is Judge Floro and at the end is fvf or Florentino Velasquez Floro; as I do deeply feel, as Editor of Wikipedia the photographer Judge Florentino Floro donated all this photos to me and the 120,000 of them to wiki break and ailing or sick RamonFVelasquez, and Judge Floro set a condition that I will Donate all his photos donated to me to Wikimedia Commons for public domain and I will never upload them in any internet site, and that all his photos can be used without any condition, that is, without even attributing the photos used to him; the jf and fvf are only precautionary measures that one using Judge Floro's pictures should follow the Letter and Spirit of the Philosophy and Beliefs of Wikimedia Common Creators or Owners, that is Liberality of the Giver for Wisdom even if Judge Floro went to the extremes of not even wanting to attribute to him these photos; if you open the internet, worldwide, the photos of Judge Floro were used and they would even cite Judge Floro as uploader and not us, Editors; and Judge Floro has no desire to be attributed for he believes in the Wikimedia Commons Philosophy of integrity and no advertisements, the value of the Name and photography; b) I am deeply concern also in the naming of files; for example, when the Upload Wizzard permits 50 photos, there are some photos that have different names but are included in the areas towns or barangays; for example - a Christian Church is beside the School and a restobar, thus the the title opted or selected by me as Editor is jfIglesia School Roads Church Restobar Malolos Bulacan Landmarksfvf which in essence is very comprehensive, but when a flower or a corn and fish is put in there, an editor would really complain; ergo c) I have no objection whatsoever to renaming my uploaded files even without my permission so as to help Us the Commons community make Commons better; I spent 16 hours uploading for 4 years in many forums and websites the top ones like defunct Friendster, etc. but I lost many valued images in YouTube etc. and I cannot recover them; I spent a lot in capturing moments of Cockfighting when my videos were deleted without my knowledge; there are other sites, but my Philosophy of Photography is only into and from Commons best dealings with Knowledge and Integrity; d) I am not submitting reasons like slow internet in the Philippines, low memory and hanging; I am just asking the kindness of Editors to please understand my predicament thusly: as Editor, I accompany Judge Floro in his photography in the most dangerous areas of the Philippines starting at 11 a.m. to 6 pm waiting for the sun and travelling 2 hours to the site; back at 9 pm I edit until 11 pm and then Upload less than 700 photos until 3 am; I suffer from Vertigo illness due to lack of sleep but I am racing against time since I was told of the prophecy that many areas in the sites we take photos under Judge Floro would suffer calamities if not even erased; please open Mabini, Lian, Nasugbu, Batangas; the destroyed by fire Hall of San Antonio, Nueva Ecija with only 1 photo; Resort World Manila; San Carlos and Santa Rita and Santo Tomas, San Luis, Pampanga, where the Bird Flu obligated a loss of Billions to Egg industry; open the 4,ooo barangays and many of them are subject to these drug operations and fate; Even with 716,000 photos and plus the 120,000 uploaded by ailing User RamonFVelasquez, at age 64, I still am not so keen on the Internet and the ramifications of re-naming and the templates problems; I have been detained in one Town of Pangasinan and when the police knew that I am a Judge they understood and I was thankful that I was not tortured by the natives; the other day a Catholic priest almost took my camera even if I do have, as Catholic a permission to take photos, amid the monetary problems and depressions thereat; these 716,000 photos were not taken free, I personally spent millions to catch the Sun, which is so evasive; I love the hour before the setting of the sun spending so much money amid the harrasments by those who have nothing to do in depressed areas; a Regional Trial Court Judge, as I am, here in Philippines is exempted from Protocols of Photography but my enemy is time, often, the clouds cover the sun and I still love the sun; I am respectfully submitting this my Philosophy of Commons Photography under the Community which became my Home since then; a word perhaps; Why do to take photos and upload' only 1 answer, I want to capture the elusive Aliens and UFOs that can be scientifically uploaded here in Commons the Real ones allowed by Quantum Physics, Molecular Biology and Mystic Theology, Very sincere, and regards--Judgefloro 13:47, 17 August 2017 (UTC) (talk)

Categorization

Hi Jarould,

please don't do this if you're not a local.

But thank you very much for trying to categorize this file.--Torsten Schmidt (talk) 08:17, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Torsten Schmidt: you should use HotCat instead of pseudo-undos like the one you've done. Jarould [talk] 08:22, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Further renaming of an Eurydema picture

Hi Jarould,

Thanks for the renaming of File:Eurydema.oleracea.nymph.jpg into File:Eurydema.dominulus.nymph.jpg.

Can you please also proceed to rename File:Eurydema.ornata.nymph.jpg into File:Eurydema.oleracea.nymph.jpg ? The latter now being a redirection, I cannot validate the renaming form because the page already exists.

Thanks. Skippy le Grand Gourou (talk) 08:58, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Skippy le Grand Gourou: Sorry, the system also does not allow me to overwrite that redirection. You should request speedy deletion of that redirection before requesting file renaming. Jarould [talk] 01:37, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, I'll do that. Skippy le Grand Gourou (talk) 08:08, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect renaming?

Dear Jarould,

Could let me know why you renamed my upload File:Ambrosia artemisiifolia inflorescence 01.jpg to File:Ambrosia psilostachya inflorescence 01.jpg? This was the inflorescence of an annual plant of which the leaves ware typical of Ambrosia artemisiifolia not of the perennial Ambrosia psilostachya.

Please let revert it to the original name. Best regards from Belgium, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 21:06, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@Meneerke bloem: Reasons for that new name will be given to you by Kenraiz (see history). Furthermore, look careful what you're doing: you were not reverting the renamed, but undoing my deletion of the template. Jarould [talk] 21:12, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Jarould Sorry for my mistake! Thank you for solving the issue. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 07:21, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Venezuela - Léon Bourgeois - Ordre de Simón Bolívar.jpg

Hello Jarould, and thank you for the rename at File:Venezuela - Léon Bourgeois - Ordre de Simón Bolívar.jpg. I just noticed that the description section is not working properly. Why is that, Jarould? Can you bring some help? Kintaro (talk) 18:14, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kintaro:  Solve. Jarould [talk] 18:16, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Oh... it was that simple... Thank you! Kintaro (talk) 18:26, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

File:永安堂.jpg

The file name was indeed ambiguous, at least 4 buildings of the same name was located in Hog Kong (branch), Singapore (headquarters) and two more in the mainland China (Guangzhou branch and Shantou branch). When i tried to categorize them Category:Eng Aun Tong buildings, File:永安堂正面.jpg, File:WingOnTong.jpg were indeed the same subject, the front facade of Guangzhou Eng Aun Tong, and the latter was the misspelling of the proper name (the former Eng Aun Tong facade, may be ok), while File:永安堂.jpg was certainly an incomplete name as it was refer in the newspaper as Guangzhou Eng Aun Tong. Matthew hk (talk) 06:12, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@Matthew hk: in this case, must be specified in the original language (Chinese) and not in English or "Latin letter", because "there's no reason to favor English over other languages". Jarould [talk] 06:18, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Moreover, 永安堂 is the company not the building. Matthew hk (talk) 06:20, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

@Matthew hk: Yes, but it must be written in the native language. Jarould [talk] 06:26, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Unua libro per russi - 1887 - 1a edizione - frontespizio - copia del bibliofilo italiano Paolo Barbieri.jpg

File:Unua libro per russi - 1887 - 1a edizione - frontespizio - copia del bibliofilo italiano Paolo Barbieri.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Irokraft (talk) 08:27, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Correction request File:Paises con mayoría cristiana.svg

In File:Paises con mayoría cristiana.svg, could you correct Azerbaijan because it is erroneously shown as a Christian majority country? The percentage of Christians in Azerbaijan is below 5% according to various academic sources and research companies. (It is shown as a nominally Muslim Shiite majority country in these sources, but it ranks among the least religious/most irreligious countries in the world according to these same sources as well.)

Sources: http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/table-christian-population-as-percentages-of-total-population-by-country/ and https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/aj.html

Thank you. Artoxx (talk) 12:11, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Correction request File:Christian States.svg and File:State Religions.svg

In File:Christian States.svg and File:State Religions.svg can you remove Argentina, Moldova, Slovakia and Cyprus because they do not have state religions?

Sources:

Section 4 of Article 31 of the Constitution of Moldova: http://www.presedinte.md/eng/constitution

Section 1 of Article 1 of the Constitution of Slovakia: https://www.prezident.sk/upload-files/46422.pdf

Article 18 of the Constitution of Cyprus: http://www.presidency.gov.cy/presidency/presidency.nsf/all/1003AEDD83EED9C7C225756F0023C6AD/$file/CY_Constitution.pdf

Argentina does not have a state religion. According to Section 2 of the Constitution of Argentina,"The Federal Government supports the Roman Catholic Apostolic religion." but does not stipulate an official state religion, nor a separation of church and state: http://www.biblioteca.jus.gov.ar/argentina-constitution.pdf

Thank you. Artoxx (talk) 12:13, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

File:Не болтай! 1941.jpg

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Стальной Детройт (talk) 08:34, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Defter-i Hakani, Sultanahmet

Hi there! Thanks for the renaming. The wrong file is still used in two Wikipedia articles. I don't see a way to replace them with this one:

. Can you help me? --Judithcomm (talk) 08:02, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Requesting re-neutralizing of file name

I noticed at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File_talk:2017_Charlottesville_vehicle-ramming_attack.webm&action=history you had fixed a file name to a nice and neutral "car ramming", but it appears FDMS4 reversed your work 2 days later without any public discussion, inviolation of established NPOV principles. The mover improperly cites Wikipedia as a source even though its reference there as an attack is being pushed in violation of BLP protections. 70.51.193.44 16:45, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

File:Monseñor Romero 1979.jpg

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Patrick Rogel (talk) 13:13, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

File:Епископ Феофан (Быстров), ректор Санкт-Петербургской духовной академии.jpg

Why did you rename this file? Commons rules forbid to rename file between languages.--Anatoliy (talk) 20:48, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

File:YouTube social white circle (2017).svg

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175.124.94.30 10:08, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry. If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Affected:

• File:Sello de la Organización de los Estados Americanos.svg

Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 03:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)