User talk:Jarekt/2018

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One DR & another DR

I nominated this DR and a second DR from this website: https://oshkoshdefense.com/ Some other images from this website have an OTRS ticket here and File:Pierce TAK-4.jpg but they appear to have different numbers. If you think an OTRS ticket permission applies to this image and the other one, feel free to add it to them to save them. Best, --Leoboudv (talk) 10:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

De-admin proposal

Please feel free to vote  Oppose on the 100 edits, 50 edits and other high proposals. I do agree with you that many expertises do not require 100 edits per 6 months. At least vote, and comment on your position, so the vote keep a trace of it. Yug (talk) 19:57, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

licencing for Kolekcja zdjęć z II Wojny Swiatowej Marka Tuszyńskiego

Hi, what is the copyright licence for your dad's collection? is there any chance I could discuss the source with you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emily0 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

The license is "public domain" or no restrictions based on {{PD-Polish}}. The source is my Dad's history research in 1960's in Poland. in the days before copiers if you requested copies of the photographs from an archive, you would get a new print made often from old, possibly original negative. --Jarekt (talk) 17:50, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

16:19, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Archive

FYI don't rely on me for the archive management... it was "my thing" but I am too busy up to March. --Alexmar983 (talk) 13:46, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

That is fine. --Jarekt (talk) 13:52, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

18:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

23:55, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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No nationality causes script errors

Hi Jarek, see Template_talk:Creator#Major_rewrite. Multichill (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Empty category that already exists

This category already exists. Please delete it or redirect, according to rules here.--MaGa 10:41, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 12:40, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

17:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:23, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Hey Jarekt, are you responsible for the Voting-Page Commons:Photo challenge/2018 - January - Blue/Voting? I'm missing my picture/entry "File:Neuer Zollhof 02.jpg|Neuer Zollhof (Gehry-Buildings), Düsseldorf, Germany" there.

best regards, --cu Lothar 09:53, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Lothar All the voting pages are created not by hand but by a code. The code can have bugs but it is usually correct. If you look at wikicode of that page you can see why the code rejected this image: "REMOVED: Neuer Zollhof 02.jpg by Lothar Hakelberg was uploaded 08 November 2017 before the challenge opened (01 January 2018)". Sorry about this, but newly uploaded constraint is part of Photo_challenge from the beginning. --Jarekt (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Uups, i've better should have read the challenge descriptions ;-). My fault! Thanks! --cu Lothar 20:38, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Licenses

Hi Jarek, please have a look, at your convenience, at this (descriptions and licenses), and the other uploads of this user. Thanks. Boston9 (talk) 14:55, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Fixed that and few other images by the uses. A lot of his uploads are good but require a lot of cleanup. --Jarekt (talk) 16:34, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
I have written to him at pl-Wiki, but without success. Two more already. Boston9 (talk) 18:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

20:51, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Commatosis

Hello.
Sorry to disturb you here, but am very astonished. What “extremely important” do you develop in module:Creator that completely ignore my week-old report on the module_talk? During this week spread of the disease increased no less than 6×… what else software may we blame for it? And recently the Russian village pump got this report as well. Were you absent for a vacation, I’d possibly already conduct my own investigation, but you are online as far as I see. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:44, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Incnis Mrsi, I do not see any week-old report on Module talk:Creator. Can you link to it? --Jarekt (talk) 20:51, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, was disoriented. Template talk: Wikidata person #Comma is a letter!, expected you to watch it as well. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I will look into it. --Jarekt (talk) 20:56, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
Incnis Mrsi, I Fixed the issue. --Jarekt (talk) 15:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

photo challenge Blue

Hi Jarekt, for your attention: the pictures after nbr 107 of photo challenge Blue are only visible under the current votes of nbr 107. Regards -- Sally V (talk) 16:05, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Sally V I looked at that voting challenge and I do not see any issues. Could you explain again? --Jarekt (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
You can also explain in Dutch and I can ask others to explain/traslate. --Jarekt (talk) 04:04, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
Yes it's OK now, I guess somebody else corrected it after I wrote to you. Thanks for your attention.

21:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Geograph Photo

I am at a loss as to why this photo - File:Geograph-3021589-by-Colin-Smith.jpg - should be regarded as having inadequate copyright, attribution and licence information. The page is directly sourced from the standard boilerplate associated with the photograph on Geograph (https://www.geograph.org.uk/reuse.php?id=3021589), and clearly states the source, copyright owner, attribution and that it is under a CC-BY 2.0 licence. At one stage all Geograph photos were to be imported into Wikimedia, but this seems to have died a death. I import the odd one which I have want to use elsewhere, as I have been doing for several years. This is the first one where the text mandated by the original source has been deemed deficient. Semudobia (talk) 19:28, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Semudobia, the image was missing a license 3 years ago, but the issue was fixed since. Currently the license seems fine to me. --Jarekt (talk) 19:32, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data feedback - What gets stored where (Ontology)

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AyaanLamar (talk) 13:49, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt,

I just (by pure accident) found Category:Croix de chemin de la Ville-Briend popping up in Category:Media with erroneous locations. Your bot changed {{Object location|47.8879|-2.4181}} into {{Object location|Wikidata=Q3003463}} and now no coordinates are shown (or rather: only 0's). d:Q3003463 seems to be the correct page on Wikidata, and the coordinates seem to be stored correctly on Wikidata as well. Any idea what might be the problem? Greetings, --El Grafo (talk) 16:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Fixed it is a strange case of bad edit on wikidata: Wikidata had 2 coordinates from different sources. One person demoted one location, while other deleted the other, so the only location left had demoted rank. Thanks for reporting. We should have a category catching cases like that. --Jarekt (talk) 02:54, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

22:54, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Missing creators

Hi Jarek, how are you doing? At Commons:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Creators I put a list of people that should have a {{Creator}} template here. Do you happen to have some bot to create these automagically? Multichill (talk) 11:07, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

I am fine. I am relieved to be done with this round of Creator module. It took a while to get right. I can easy create creator templates for the artists with categories. I can also create categories , but filling them would be an issue. Jarekt (talk) 14:33, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Would be great if you can create the categories and creator templates. Don't worry about filling them up. The new uploads will end up in these new categories and for the old ones a bit of search and cat-a-lot seems to work well. Multichill (talk) 15:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
Multichill I created ~100 with categories so far (see the list). I will work in the rest tomorrow. I will need some help with categorizing the new categories. New Creator template with "autocategorize" option can add "people by name" and birth/death categories, but it can not add automatically country and occupation categories. --Jarekt (talk) 05:03, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
So like Category:Clara Wagner Folingsby? Painter from Germany? Multichill (talk) 11:58, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
You can do a query like this to figure it out
SELECT ?item ?commonscategory (COUNT(?painting) AS ?count)  WHERE {
  ?painting wdt:P31 wd:Q3305213 .
  ?painting wdt:P170 ?item .
  ?item wdt:P570 ?dod . BIND(YEAR(?dod) AS ?deathyear) . 
  FILTER(?deathyear < 1923) .
  MINUS { ?item wdt:P1472 ?creatortemplate  } .
  ?item wdt:P27 ?country .
  ?catcontains pq:P27 ?country .
  ?catcontains ps:P4224 wd:Q5 .
  ?catcontains pq:P106 wd:Q1028181 .
  ?category p:P4224 ?catcontains .
  ?category wdt:P373 ?commonscategory .
  } GROUP BY ?item ?commonscategory
HAVING(?count > 4)
ORDER BY DESC(?count) 
LIMIT 250
Try it! Multichill (talk) 12:10, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Multichill, I created the second batch of templates and categories (see User:Jarekt/a) I placed new categories in Category:Creator template home categories (2018-02-11). Those categories will need images and better categorization. I can create a lot of creators and categories with a simple AWB run, all I need is a name and item id or category name and item id. I looked at the above query and I do not understand it or its results. I modified your other query which I understand better

SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?category (COUNT(?painting) AS ?count) (COUNT(?image) AS ?currentimagecount) (COUNT(?cci) AS ?newimagecount) 
WHERE {
  ?painting wdt:P31 wd:Q3305213 .
  ?painting wdt:P170 ?item .
  ?item wdt:P570 ?dod . BIND(YEAR(?dod) AS ?deathyear) . 
  FILTER(?deathyear < 1923) .
  MINUS { ?item wdt:P1472 ?creatortemplate  } .
  OPTIONAL { ?item wdt:P373 ?category } .
  OPTIONAL { ?painting wdt:P18 ?image } .
  OPTIONAL { ?painting wdt:P4765 ?cci } .
  SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en". } 
} GROUP BY ?item ?itemLabel ?category 
HAVING(?count > 4)
ORDER BY DESC(?count)

Try it!

But why do you have constraint on date of birth and why set to 1923? also why HAVING(?count > 4)?

--Jarekt (talk) 04:02, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

It's date of death, not date of birth. I'm only uploading works by people who died before 1923 so I can use {{PD-old-auto-1923}} and don't have to worry about copyright. The HAVING is to set a minimum threshold on count. So 5 or more items needed before it shows up. Multichill (talk) 07:29, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I tweaked the query at Commons:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Missing creator templates a bit. Can you create the missing categories and creator templates? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 21:30, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 Question Why do we bother to create those creator templates at all and don't simply use {{creator|wikidata=$QID}} directly? --Marsupium (talk) 22:46, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
In the future the {{Artwork}} will just generate the right look based on Wikidata. This intermediate step will just bite us in the ass. Multichill (talk) 18:10, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Jarek, can you create the missing ones? Multichill (talk) 20:35, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt, I tried to enable "attribution" in this template; but not working. It seems I made some mistake. Could you look on it, please. Jee 16:25, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

@Jkadavoor: did Revision of Template:GODL-India/en add necessary things for English language? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 16:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Incnis Mrsi! Jee 03:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Photos pf Adam Stachowiak

Hi Jarek. Just published at pl-Wiki. I do doubt the uploader is the author. For example, this one belongs to Warner Music. Boston9 (talk) 21:37, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

It seems like User:Patrick Rogel already tagged them all. --Jarekt (talk) 02:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Creator page Art & Language

Dear @Jarekt: , I hope you are well. I am working on bringing images of Art & Language works on wikimedia commons, and in contact with the artists. They have agreed to release copyright on the images requested for deletion. They are major artists of 20th century and I think it is very important for everybody. Could you please change you mind on deleted their creator page ? Best, Philippe49730--Philippe49730 (talk) 16:15, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Philippe49730, if artists are notable (for example has Wikipedia article or Wikidata item with independent references) and they have their works on Commons than I fully support creation of Creator pages. Could you provide list of people you had in mind? --Jarekt (talk) 16:58, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
Jarekt, Art & Language is a conceptual art movement, or a collaboration between conceptual artists. They founded in the 60s Art & Language to escape the heroic image of the artist, and have developped a single corpus of artworks, all signed under one name, "Art & Language". That is why I created the page {{Creator:Art & Language}}. Could you cancel your deletion? Best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
undeleted. --Jarekt (talk) 20:20, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

19:52, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Commons bot inactivity

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Photo Challenge

Hope you've got power back again now. I enjoyed looking at those January photo challenge photos. Great to see such variety and so many newbies taking part. I like how a subject like "blue" can lead to great images. Thanks for all the work you do on this. Perhaps I shall be inspired by this month's themes. -- Colin (talk) 09:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Colin, I am back online after several days of no power and little heat. Virginia was hit by some powerful winds and my next-door neighbor's house lost two kid bedrooms to a falling tree. Luckily nobody got hurt. We do have a lot of new people participating, which I think is great, although I occasionally have to disqualify votes by new users. Subject like "blue" focusing on a secondary characteristics is a nice departure from the usual theme focusing on some primary theme. It allows people to submit images done in many different techniques on many subjects. I wish we had more people pitching novel ideas and voting in Commons talk:Photo challenge/themes, as many new winning ideas seem to be similar (doors, windows, keyholes, balconies, clocks, bathrooms, etc. or blood, bones, eyes, ears, etc.) so challenge like blue (although not very novel either as we had other "color" themes) mixes things up. I might support them individually but would like to see more challenges which are a different. Last year, I think "mammals" and "drone photography" were my favorite as I really enjoyed the submitted photographs. Panning was also interesting as it provided some unusual entries. Thanks for your help this weekend. --Jarekt (talk) 14:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

17:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Template:Label

Hi, I'm a big user of your {{Label}} template, thanks but the latest changes have made a lot of mistakes. obviously, this is the line 96: attempt to concatenate a nil value. do you think you can do something? Camulogene77 (talk) 10:01, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I hope it is Fixed now. --Jarekt (talk) 12:44, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
hallelujah and thank you again Camulogene77 (talk) 17:57, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Option parameter in Template:Creator

Hello, Jarekt. Do you see, why the template {{Creator}} does not work with the named parameter option, but only with an unnamed param? The documentation and the template source tell it different, but cf. Special:Diff/291856845/291857329 and the change before. Hopefully the only not working parameter. — Speravir – 00:59, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

{{Creator}} template only works with named parameter option, but pages in Creator namespace, like Creator:Johann Gottfried Auerbach only work with unnamed parameters, as documented. The | Option = {{{1|}}} line in many creator pages does the conversion. --Jarekt (talk) 03:06, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
OK, apart from my letter case mistake it is in my opinion not clear enough documented, but do not know in the moment where exactly it could be done better. — Speravir – 18:51, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
I tried to document it, but I guess I did not succeeded. I will look at this again. --Jarekt (talk) 20:12, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Nonetheless thanks for the effort. — Speravir – 00:05, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

19:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Machine readable license

Sorry for asking again. You have been the last one editing {{Cc-by-layout}}. Do you know which part is responsible for machine readability? Are this the invisible spans? If so do you know whether one could add more than one of the span class="licensetpl_link"? If you do not know this whome could I ask instead in your opinion? The background is Commons:Village_pump#User_custom_license_tags_forbidden?. — Speravir – 00:14, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Meanwhile De728631 pointed me to Commons:Machine-readable data. So, it seems my questions are essentially answered. — Speravir – 00:59, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Questions a change in Template:Size - would you like to answer? Ronhjones  (Talk) 21:56, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 03:34, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Jarekt. File:William Powell Frith Mr Honeywell introduces the bailiffs 1850.jpg states for its size: "17 × 24.5 cm (0 × 0 miles)". I remember: in the past the template showed paintings size in inches. File:AsmusCarstens.png shows height in inches and width in miles. What's wrong? Taivo (talk) 13:18, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Fixed a bug in my last tweak of Module:Size. Taivo thanks for reporting this, as none of my test cases had this combination. --Jarekt (talk) 14:20, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi! There's something wrong there with one of the modules you've been involved in editing recently. I checked a random sample of five other institution templates, and it seems to be happening in all of them. Are you able to figure out what's wrong? Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Since the line with the error has to do with user language, I should mention that my user language is "nb". When I check with other languages using ?uselang, it seems to be working properly. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 11:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Jon Harald Søby, Thank you for reporting this. Thanks to this I discovered some deep-rooted issues with Module:Coordinates, which was one of my early attempts on working with Lua. I have the fix to Module:Coordinates ready but it will need some more testing. The fix will prevent the actual code crash, but there might be still an issue with handling of "nb" language. --Jarekt (talk) 13:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Jon Harald Søby What is the relationship between "no" and "nb" languages? MediaWiki:Lang/nb used to list language of the user with "nb" language preference, lists "no". Would there be any valid reason for that? --Jarekt (talk) 13:14, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

“nb” is specifically bokmål, “no” is likely generic Norwegian. Did not help, see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institution:Louvre?uselang=nb or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institution:Louvre?uselang=no , whichever (but e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Institution:Louvre?uselang=nn works). Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:22, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jarekt: It's a long story. Most of the Wikimedia-verse has stanardized on used nb everywhere except for in the domain of no.wikipedia.org (which is nb.wikipedia.org, because of historical snafu). However, Commons still uses no instead of nb to a very large degree. Ideally both MediaWiki:Lang/no and MediaWiki:Lang/nb should be "nb" and not "no", but I'm afraid of unintended side-effects if we just change them without knowing what else relies on them (which I imagine is a lot…). Basically, "no" is a macro-language that covers both "nb" and "nn", but in the Commons context "no" means just "nb".
@Incnis Mrsi: Since both MediaWiki:Lang/no and MediaWiki:Lang/nb have the same language code, there ought to be no difference in those two ?uselang links. Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Anyways, it seems like the recent edits you made fixed the issue. I don't know why exactly, but it worked! Thank you! Jon Harald Søby (talk) 14:22, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

First structured licensing conversation on Commons

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15:03, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Re

Sorry, I had read badly. I removed the image. --Bella Trovata (talk) 17:05, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

20:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

ucfirst

Hi Jarekt, do you know what this ucfirst is needed in files like this File:The Hell and the Flood P2.jpg. --Arnd (talk) 18:21, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Arnd I do not see ucfirst mentioned anywhere in File:The Hell and the Flood P2.jpg. Can you elaborate? --Jarekt (talk) 18:27, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I meant in the wikitext: |date ={{ucfirst. --Arnd (talk) 18:29, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
I do not know. It seems like User:Vincent Steenberg added it, so we should check with him. For example {{ucfirst: {{Oil on panel}} }} gives "oil on panelmedium QS:P186,Q296955;P186,Q106857709,P518,Q861259" which is the same as {{Oil on panel}} : "oil on panelmedium QS:P186,Q296955;P186,Q106857709,P518,Q861259". For other entries it might be matter of preference to have fields capitalized or not. I do not have a opinion (both seems fine), but would prefer to have them done the same way in as many files as possible. --Jarekt (talk) 18:43, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

tl:institution

Jarekt, could you please help here, thank you Institution:Santa_Maria_Incoronata,_Milan, Doesen't take the new Wikidata image --Oursana (talk) 00:10, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Oursana, null edit works in such case. --Jarekt (talk) 00:49, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, obviously you did--Oursana (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hello I am trying to find the photographer of this photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Dann#/media/File:Banners_and_signs_at_March_for_Our_Lives_-_036.jpg Sara

I took that photo. --Jarekt (talk) 12:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)


Thank you for the response. Sara — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.245.238.75 (talk) 18:47, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

19:28, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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LUA Artwork feedback

Hi Jarek, I noticed some activity on Module:Artwork/sandbox. Cool! Are you already collecting feedback somewhere? If so, you could copy this to that location. I tested on File:Adriaan de Lelie - Portret van de familie van Adriaan Bonebakker met Dirk L. Bennewitz - SK-A-5013 - Rijksmuseum.jpg by replacing {{Artwork}} with {{Artwork/sandbox}}:

  • I like the title header from Wikidata!
  • Removing the local creator template and institution template still gives the exact same output. Cool! Have you already worked on the funky anonymous attributions/school of things? I would keep that for version 2.0
  • Both object history and exhibition history just give a big dot. No idea where that is coming. You are probably starting a loop somewhere that has no results?
  • The file ends up in Category:Pages using Artwork template with incorrect parameter, this seems to be caused by the wikidata field

Multichill (talk) 13:40, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Multichill, Thanks for testing it. I mostly test it on Module talk:Artwork/sandbox/testcases examples, which seem broken at the moment.
  • Removing the local creator template and institution template should be OK. The behavior is to first look for predefined creator/institution template and if not found than create one on the fly.
  • I did not "worked on the funky anonymous attributions/school of things". That will be I guess later stage. I guess I would have to see how that is modeled in Wikidata.
  • I will check on files ending up in Category:Pages using Artwork template with incorrect parameter. Since I am testing it on pages not in file namespace I did not noticed that.
There are a few challenges I do not have clear solution to:
There are also several issues I did not tackle, yet:
  • Making {{Technique}} compatible with Wikidata. We might need rewrite in Lua, but that is such a big undertaking I would prefer to do it in version 2.0. I might have to map all items used by made from material (P186) to ~ 700 key words used by {{Technique}}.
  • I need to understand better the use of exhibition history (P608) and it's qualifiers so I can present the data on Commons.
  • I never learned how to transfer labels to translatewiki. You wrote something in the past to explain the process and there is some documentation on mw:Localisation#Adding_new_messages and possibly other pages, but I still do not understand the process at all. {{Institution}} and some {{Artwork}} field names need to be transferred.
So there is still plenty to do. --Jarekt (talk) 15:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
I would favour a two-step approach:
  1. First version of {{Artwork}} using Module:Artwork has the same functionality and some easy quick wins.
  2. Second verson (probably more iterations) add new functionality based on Wikidata.
Right now I would focus on getting the first version deployed. I think most of the problems you have are now related to the second version. Do you agree? Is this the right way to tackle this problem? What is a good location to keep track of the new features? Multichill (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
You are right. I should concentrate on first reproducing capabilities of the current template, replacing the current template and than working on fetching stuff from and to Wikidata. So the next step would be to fix the issue with bullets and start working on current maintenance categories. --Jarekt (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
This was the easy part (apparently 0 evaluates to true in LUA). Multichill (talk) 19:26, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
I got few more things fixed in regard to Object history. We might have to fix Wikidata data model for this feature to be really useful. In the mean time I switch gears and work on reproducing current functionality and testing. --Jarekt (talk) 19:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a good plan. I don't think I can be of much help with the LUA.... Multichill (talk) 22:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

18:08, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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E4024 (talk) 08:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello.Since you are an expert on both sites, please link Subcategories of Category:Featured pictures With each other on Commons and Wikidata.Thank you --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

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15:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Pages with script errors

Per your comment at Template talk:Label#Deleted Q numbers, in case you haven't yet had time to track down the reason for the many errors in Category:Pages with script errors with titles like Category:1890 in Iran by city, the reason is that Template:IranYear/sort invokes Module:ArtIran which does not exist. Rafic.Mufid might like to comment-out the invoke until it works. Johnuniq (talk) 03:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Johnuniq well, actually i'm not very professional in templates (i do copy/past from similar templates to make news), and idk what's wrong with this iran by year-related templates. I like to notice that there is at least four templates for History of Iran by year, Imperial State of Iran year, Sublime State of Persia year, 18th century Iran year, Safavid year and Iranyear. So, errors are not just about the module as you seen, wrong use of flags in this categories must be corrected. --Rafic.Mufid (talk) 04:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
If you said where they were copied from I might be able to work out what should happen. Or, I could just patch the template so it does invoke the non-existent module. Or, Jarekt might be familiar with this style of template and know what should happen. Johnuniq (talk) 05:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
I think I solved the issue Template:IranYear/sort was converting year number-string (like "1999") to a Category sort-key. That is totally unnecessary as year is a good value to sort on. --Jarekt (talk) 12:23, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Can you take a look this, please?--MaGa 18:06, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

[111] There is a little bit difference in appearance (compared with english): see table at Help people find this file. (Commons has over 46 million files.). I don't know how to fix in croatian, so if you can, I would appreciate it.--MaGa 14:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

OTRS request

Hi Jarek, has just been added to the article in Polish, but the way OTRS is displayed here is not customary. Or maybe the template has changed? Can you have have a look? Thanks! Boston9 (talk) 20:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

The OTRS was not processed yet, so it looked differently, as we have 60 day backlog. It is OK now. --Jarekt (talk) 02:15, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 04:59, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

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Fotografie z witryny Ministerstwa Obrony Narodowej !!!

Dzień dobry.

Proszę o pomoc w uporządkowaniu sprawy zdjęć pochodzących z MON. Według licencji:

© According to a relevant permission, the Polish Ministry of National Defence which is the copyright holder of this work, allows anyone to use this media for any purpose including unrestricted redistribution, modification and commercial use, provided indication of the original source.
Important notice: This license is only valid for files uploaded until September 2013.

(Category:Images by Ministerstwo Obrony Narodowej) zgoda jest obowiązująca: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Nemo5576/MON. Jeśli już nie jest aktualna, wymaga wyraźnego uzupełnienia w tym opisie, ponieważ powstaje niepotrzebne i duże zamieszanie. Skoro licencja już nie obowiązuje, należy to podać, by uniknąć wgrywania kolejnych plików.

Zgodnie z podaną licencją (motywowany dobrymi intencjami) i jej opisem wgrałem w 2018 r. zdjęcia (ale pochodzące z okresu 2003-2016), które okazały się być niezgodne z wymogami Wikimiedia:
File:Zbigniew Wawer.JPG
File:Gen. Marek Dukaczewski.JPG
File:Jarosław Kraszewski.JPG

Artur Andrzej (talk) 10:41, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Artur, Nie wiem o co chodzi z ta licencja, wiec utworzyłem Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jarosław Kraszewski.JPG, byśmy mogli mieć jakąś dyskusje na ten temat. Nie lubię używania szablonu {{No permission since}}, z niejasnych sytuacjach bo nie ma miejsca na dyskusje, i pliki są szybko usuwane. Zgadzam się ze jeśli ta licencja z jakiegoś powodu nie powinna być używana to powinniśmy ja zmienić tekst tego szablonu. --Jarekt (talk) 12:03, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Dziękuję. Artur Andrzej (talk) 12:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Courbet, mistaken pictures...

Hello Jarekt, your bot made a little mistake in 2011 : this picture is in fact this one, and vice versa. Yours, --Marc-AntoineV (talk) 10:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Marc-AntoineV, My bot just copied them from the original location at WGA: here and here. Are you saying those are swapped? --Jarekt (talk) 11:38, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello, thks for the answer. Yes, they are. I copy refs in the Discussion Pages. I don't know how technicaly modified the files...--Marc-AntoineV (talk) 11:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
Marc-AntoineV, I think it is Fixed. Please verify. --Jarekt (talk) 12:23, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

18:16, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Hackathon?

Are you going to the Wikimedia Hackathon 2018 in Barcelona? Multichill (talk) 09:01, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

I was not planning on it. I do not think I have ever been to a hackathon before, and the only other wikimedia events I come to are near by ones and the ones I can get scholarship for, and both are very rare. --Jarekt (talk) 13:36, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
That's a shame, maybe next time? Multichill (talk) 10:09, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
I do not know much about Hackathons. I have never been to one and the ones I hear about seem to happen often and somewhere far away. I am willing to go to events within half a day of driving, but anything farther than that I would probably apply for a scholarship to fly to. So how do you know which future Hackathons would be worth applying for scholarship for? --Jarekt (talk) 01:53, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Multilingual captions testing is available

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C.H Teofil

Witaj – mam pytanie, czy to jest na pewno "new version of this file", gdzie this file to plik wrzucony przez usera w 2009, czy to po prostu całkiem nowe zdjęcie. Sorry za niewiedzę, czy potrafisz przywrócić do cat. "Night shots of Łódź" stare zdjęcie nie usuwając z Commons nowego? Darekm135 (talk) 23:33, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Problem z nowym zdjęciem to to ze nic na jego temat nie wiemy. Kto jest fotografem, i jaka chce użyć licencje. Posprzątam. --Jarekt (talk) 02:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Food

Curd Rice
Curd Rice

Hello! After the successful pilot program by Wikimedia India in 2015, Wiki Loves Food (WLF) is happening again in 2018 and this year, we are going International. To make this event a grant success, your direction is key. Please sign up as a volunteer or sign up on behalf of your affiliate here.--Abhinav619 (talk) 06:07, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi some or your recent changes resulting thousends of self categorized categories. See Commons:Database reports/Self-categorized categories. Can you please try to fix that. Thx. --JuTa 17:37, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

It will be fixed at the next release, maybe in a day or two. --Jarekt (talk) 02:16, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

16:18, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

CBC

Photo challenge/2018 - March - Spring/Voting

Hi Dear Jarekt... Thanks for your Correction on my of the Photo challenge/2018 - March - Spring and as I am a new User with less than 6 Months experience hear I would like to learn from my mistakes for the Voting so can you tell me why they were wrong as you correct them thankfully?..Best Regards..--Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 07:58, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Sarbast.T.Hameed You can vote only for a single 1st place, single second place, single 3d place and as many likes as you like. You voted for 2 first places. The algorithm that scores the votes ignores votes in such a case, so I change them to likes so they count at least partially. --Jarekt (talk) 02:11, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
Dear Jarekt Thanks a lot for your perfect explanation and work, I got it now --Sarbast.T.Hameed (talk) 07:05, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

16:27, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Image without license

File:In Deep (Mark Lockheart album).jpg

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Przywrócenie usuniętego zdjęcia

Witam.

Bardzo proszę o pomoc w przywróceniu:
File:Krzysztof Wójcik 2016.jpg
usunięte 1 maja 2017‎, 9 czerwca 2017 została przesłana do permissions zgoda fotografa, ale coś się w sprawie "pokręciło". P. Krzysztof Wójcik zamówił serię zdjęć do mediów, jest ich właścicielem i używa ich do własnej promocji, więc te zdjęcia są powszechne w Internecie i stąd wniosek o nielegalnym skopiowaniu.
Dziękuję.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 20:11, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Artur Sprawa tego zdjecia zajmuje się User:Ankry wiec on powinien je przywrócić. --Jarekt (talk) 03:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Ankry Wedle File:Krzysztof Wójcik 2016.jpg fotografem jest "Piotr Wachnik", który jest także fotografem który zrobił wiele innych zdjęć z tej samej serii (linki tutaj, tutaj czy tu). To samo zdjęcie było także opublikowane pare razy na internecie (tu czy tu). Za każdym razem było to zdjęcie malej rozdzielności podpisane ze fotografem był "Piotr Wachnik". Zdjęcie przesłane na Commons miało 3000x2000 pikseli i pełen EXIF. Jest ono parę razy większe niż jakiekolwiek zdjęcie poprzednio opublikowane na internecie. Pozwolenie ticket:2017060910004106 Przyszło od osoby o tym samym imieniu z konta o tym samym imieniu. Na permissions-commons to zdjęcie z tym pozwoleniem było by przyjęte. --Jarekt (talk) 03:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@Artur Andrzej: od 10.6.2017 czekamy na odpowiedź od osoby, która przysłała zgodę. Dodam, że szczegółów dotyczących korespondencji w OTRS nie możemy rozstrząsać publicznie, w szczególności pisać o nich na wiki. Jeśli potrzebne są dodatkowe informacje, proszę o kontakt via e-mail. Ankry (talk) 04:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation help

Where can I translate names of the namespaces shown on new advanced search?--MaGa 17:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

User:MaGa, I am not sure which text do you mean. But in general, the namespace names are usually not translated, see for example Help:Простори назв. --Jarekt (talk) 18:29, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Here is a screenshot. Namespaces are in red rectangle. Notice that Main namespace is already translated as Glavni.--MaGa 18:42, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
User:MaGa, See last section of mw:Help:Extension:AdvancedSearch. --Jarekt (talk) 23:57, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
Sorry for bothering, but there's no namespaces at the provided link. Maybe somewhere else?--MaGa 18:20, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

22:22, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

--Jarekt (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, in 2012 you expanded that template to 15 parms. Would you mind to add some more parameters (at least 2 for the moment, but 4 or 5 may be sure for some future). -- sarang사랑 06:37, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

sarang, I will look into it. It is actually kind of strange why we need specific list of parameters at all. The {{Autotranslate}} template should be able to pass all the numbered and named parameters to the language subtemplates. --Jarekt (talk) 16:10, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
I was not really comprehending fully how it works - as far as I can see there are at the moment par1 to par15; enough for most uses, but now I need some more. The module to which these parameters are passed does not care and can handle all parameters that are used. It is no problem that there are only numbered parameters, they can be used for every one of the different purposes, more universal than named ones. -- sarang사랑 17:43, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Module:Size

Hello,

is there something broken in Modle:Size? Seems that both Template:Artwork and User:Rama/Catdef return an error now, see [130] and [131] for examples.

Cheers! Rama (talk) 08:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Fixed Thank you for reporting this. --Jarekt (talk) 10:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
Splendid, thank you so much! Rama (talk) 12:24, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

hi Jarekt I would like to ask for the restoration of the following portrait made in 1779 by the priest Luigi Nicolini Source of Portrait:https://www.comune.mantova.gov.it/index.php/cultura/mantova-citta-di-cultura/news-cultura/item/download/378_ece275d4c53206725d5beb4d24fff34e (sorry if I can not sign, but the phone is not 'at all suitable for wikipedia) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.31.200.78 (talk) 23:27, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done Please add more metadata to the image or to Wikidata. --Jarekt (talk) 03:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
I thank you fully, see, could I ask you to restore some portraits ?, I saw that it had overburdened, but in truth she would have stolen me almost the idea that I had me eheheheheeheh ,,,,, I can afford in the future to submit other portraits to be repainted ( just restore) ??? ,, because he sees I have to restore some portraits and files to modify the following information about the artists and the sources, because seeing that over time, many files containing the portraits, have expired sources :)--95.245.76.33 20:26, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
Please be aware of User talk:A3cb1#Path to unblocking.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Another edit request

Hi, I come to you with a uncommon request. Admin:Perhelion wrote a script and protected it. Now Perhelion is vanished since two months, nobody knows of his whereabouts, and whether he will come again and when. We are in great sorrow, he has told nothing and does not answer e-mail. Can a search happen, e.g. at Admins noteboard?
His script is often used by many users. We need some corrections in that script, and we cannot ask him to do it. How about the future maintanance of this now orphaned tool?
One error needs an urgent correction, and I made it. Prior to future decisions about the script, would you please copy the corrected code from my userpage User:Sarang/simpleSVGcheck.js to User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js. It is a very small change, just a necessary default that had been missing; I tested it carefully.
The other corrections are not so urgent. -- sarang사랑 16:16, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

sarang, Page User:Perhelion/simpleSVGcheck.js is not protected so anybody can edit it; However maybe a better way would be to just leave User:Sarang/simpleSVGcheck.js where it is and switch to use that version. --Jarekt (talk) 16:23, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
No, I cannot edit this page: I get the message "This page is protected" and I can only view its source. For me, I have switched the use to my version - but it seems not possible to tell all the other users to switch as well. Therefore it might be better to correct Perhelions script, while I can use mine for further test and corrections without the need to establish an additional version for that purpose. It is not so bad to have an "official" version not influenced by the necessary tests, whether it is protected or not. Please make the edit, other users are waiting for it. -- sarang사랑 05:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
I made the change. Please monitor places other can be reporting issues about it. --Jarekt (talk) 01:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

17:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, your last edit at this template broke something. Thousands of files had a 'template loop' error message displayed instead of the license. Jcb (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

That is really strange. Template:PD-Art still complains about template loops but at least files using it show the license properly. --Jarekt (talk) 16:26, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
The files that I saw with the error message has this combination: {{PD-Art|PD-1923}}. I don't know if this tells you something. Jcb (talk) 20:51, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Jcb, I think the issue is that Template:PD-Art was using {{Autotranslate}} and was transcuding {{PD-1923}} which also called {{Autotranslate}}. Both codes called the template with different parameters and should work fine, but some system flagged it as an infinite template loop. That I understand (kind of), but now after your revert Template:PD-Art is still in category Category:Pages with template loops. Oh, I just noticed that 48k other templates are there as well. I think maybe that is an issue with {{Documentation}} template. BTW, I think I will try to create couple identical clones of {{Autotranslate}} to maybe fool template loop detection. --Jarekt (talk) 01:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Apparently your strategy works, Category:Files with no machine-readable license is not flooded this time. Jcb (talk) 15:28, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I also managed to remove 48k templates from Category:Pages with template loops by altering {{Documentation}} template. --Jarekt (talk) 15:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Object location and Wikidata Infobox

Finally following up on your comments about {{Object location}} and {{Wikidata Infobox}} at [132], I've implemented the four links at {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}}. Please could you have a look and see if they are working OK? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 23:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Mike Peel I replaced {{Wikidata Infobox}} with {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} in Category:Poland but although preview looked fine now there is bunch or errors in the infobox due to Lua codes taking more than allocated 10 sec. I will try it on other categories, but is it something we should fix or remove {{Wikidata Infobox}} from such pages. Map of Poland's location was a bit strange, as it showed location few feet south of some highway. It might be better to somehow adjust the scale of such maps, perhaps with use of coordinates of easternmost point (P1334) and similar properties. --Jarekt (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, it doesn't help that {{Countries of Europe}} seems to use 64(!) expensive parser functions, but the infobox seems to be taking far too long anyway. I'll look into optimising it. I need to figure out how to auto-scale the map, it's now set to show street-level info as that's what will work best in most categories, but obviously that fails for country-level categories. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 12:43, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Mike Peel I did try {{Wikidata Infobox/sandbox}} also at Category:Pstrąże (where the links do not seem to do much, but likely not due to your template) and Category:Saska Kępa (where they worked just fine). --Jarekt (talk) 12:56, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
RexxS made a new Lua version of {{GetQID}}, which was causing most of the slow-down before, so the infobox should be a lot quicker to load now. I'll deploy the new links soon, and will think about how best to sort out the map (although that's probably going to be a fix for a few versions in the future). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:06, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
That is great. As for better maps (in the future) I would use coordinates of northernmost point (P1332), coordinates of southernmost point (P1333), coordinates of easternmost point (P1334), coordinates of westernmost point (P1335) properties, if they are provided and current code if not. --Jarekt (talk) 11:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Possibly, although that's a bit complex and those properties aren't always present. I was thinking about using area (P2046) to check if the area covered by the object is bigger than the current map setting, and if so to expand the map. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Just to let you know that the new version of the infobox with this change is now live. mapzoom TBD. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:07, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

hi Jarekt, I am writing to ask you whether it would be possible to restore these files concerning some of these portraits of an unknown artist executed between the seventeenth and eighteenth century, the artist since he died for 100 years, the most correct license included in the following files was PD-100 ,,

I would like to ask you only to restore them, some of these portraits I need to be overloaded, I really appreciated your recovery for annibale cavriani, but you had stolen the idea of overcharging it, for this time limited to restore them ok? --82.50.38.75 12:52, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

12:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation help

Can you process this, please?--MaGa 10:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again.--MaGa 13:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Comment in Polish at User talk:Pi bot

Can you have a look please? I can google translate it, but solving it probably needs a native speaker. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:16, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

21:54, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Wrong name or not?

[154] Translation of this template makes Template:cfd/XX. I have translated it, and moved to new name according to other languages (e.g. this or this). Am I wrong, or something is wrong with translation link at the bottom of main page of the template? After all, there's no translation in croatian visible on the main page of the template.--MaGa 13:35, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

User:MaGa I think I fixed it. Please verify. --Jarekt (talk) 01:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
What a mistake I've done with the name. As always, thank you very much.--MaGa 15:47, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Jarekt. I really appreciate all of your help. Currently the home country licenses are not displayed at {PD-art-two}, for example File:Abeno by Yamakawa Shūhō.jpg. I think that this editing is probably affecting, can you fix it? --Y.haruo (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

There's also an issue with {{User at project}} not formatting properly, like on File:LocatieProvFlevoland.png, probably related to a change to {{Projectname}}. --ghouston (talk) 06:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
I reverted this one, since the template isn't protected for some reason. --ghouston (talk) 07:22, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
@Y.haruo: , I suggest also reverting the edit to {{PD-Art-two}}. --ghouston (talk) 07:26, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Y.haruo and Ghouston: Thanks for reporting those issues. They were caused not by changes to {{Autotranslate}} but by my resent changes to some few remaining templates that use {{Fallback}} and {{SuperFallback}}, two templates that use no longer maintained language fallback mechanism. Due to phabricator:T196464, some of the templates I converted ended up in Category:Pages with template loops. My workaround phabricator:T196464 is to use {{Autotranslate/clone 1}} and {{Autotranslate/clone 2}} instead of {{Autotranslate}}. I am monitoring Category:Pages with template loops and correcting issues that cause pages to show up there. --Jarekt (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for making the revisions.--Y.haruo (talk) 16:48, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

This template seems to be broken. See File:Grand Temple, Freemasons' Hall, London 2017-09-17-4.jpg. I only see "Camera Model" appear (which is blank). I don't see the other fields. Can you figure out what is wrong? -- Colin (talk) 16:57, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixed Thanks for notifying me. I did not notice that that template used upper case inputs. --Jarekt (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Oh I don't know enough about templates to know what is right/wrong. There didn't seem to be anything on the template that changed recently. Has the wiki software changed? -- Colin (talk) 17:59, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
The issue was due to my edit here. {{Autotranslate}} is preferred method of i18n over {{Fallback}}, but it is not case sensitive and passes to subtemplates only lower case arguments. --Jarekt (talk) 18:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, sorry but something is still wrong with it. See i.e. Category:Files moved to Commons requiring review as of 23 February 2009 or Commons:Database reports/Self-categorized categories for all 1000+ cats using it. They are not categorized to Category:Files moved to Commons requiring review by date anymore but to itself and some non extsiting cats. Its nice and OK to use autotranslate but the result should be correct, I assume. Can you please have anthor look. Thx. --JuTa 07:41, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I give up, as I do not understand why Template:BotMoveToCommonsHeader with autotranslate would behave differently from Fallback. Sorry about the disruptions. If there anything I should clean up? --Jarekt (talk) 11:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Thx for your self-revert. I dont think there is anything else to do... --JuTa 14:44, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt, i just tried to cleanup the mentioned category. Unfortunately, i could not find the root of the errors. Maybe you could take a look at it. Thank you in advance, --Arnd (talk) 17:51, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Arnd, {{LangSwitch}} requires each instance to have either "en" or "default" options which are not empty. "~" can be used to get empty string. This category catalogs pages with pages where that requirement is not met. I just fixed several templates, and AFAICT everything seems to be in order. --Jarekt (talk) 18:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Seems that there is still an error in template {{By}} causing many files and categories to appear in the maintenance category. But i am too stupid to repair it ;-) --Arnd (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2018 (UTC)


Whatever change has been implemented causes the LangSwitch Error: no default message to appear for everything that uses by color categories. Why does that happen, and how can it be fixed? 2A04:4540:901:AF00:7D17:C235:6744:7A53 19:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I fixed {{By}} template. Maybe that will help. --Jarekt (talk) 20:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Issue with template "Inline coordinates"

I’ve pinged you about this, so …

I’ve recently added on request the opportinity to show a label instead of the coordinates with template {{Inline coordinates}} (something that’s possible for years in dewiki with template de:Vorlage:Coordinate) – the necessary change for this is actually in {{Coord/link}}, though (and the param label added to the whole template chain). You can see the effect with the 2 last examples in {{Inline coordinates}} doc. Now user Barghaan who requested the change noticed that in mobile view the coordinates are not suppressed. Do you see why? Should we perhaps consider this a bug? If you also do not know what happens here who else could be asked in your opinion – presumingly Phabricator? — Speravir – 18:53, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Never mind: MediaWiki:Common.css is not applied in mobile view, am I right? Then that’s the issue (rules for geographical coordinates). Is there a special mobile CSS? (Edit:) I assume Templatestyles would be helpful, but need to be activated first. — Speravir – 20:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Aah, there is MediaWiki:Mobile.css. Could you be so kind and copy the necessary rules from Common.css to it? — Speravir – 21:29, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Speravir My specialty are templates and Lua codes, but I have very little understanding of .css files and .js and similar files. I sometimes help with very simple edits but in general I try to avoid them as I do not know enough about them not to break anything. Sorry. --Jarekt (talk) 03:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Ah, OK. I originally pinged because I thought it would be a template issue, so bad luck. — Speravir – 00:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

21:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Something broken with Wikidata units?

Hello,

there seeems to be something amiss with units in the Artwork template (see Category:Woman baking bread-E 25213 for instance), I wonder if it could have been introduced with our revision here [160]. Do you have any idea?

Cheers! Rama (talk) 13:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixed Thanks for spotting this. --Jarekt (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Template:On OSM Autotranslate vs. Fallback

Hello, your bot changed for template {{On OSM}} (among a lot of others) the usage from {{Fallback}} to {{Autotranslate}}. In Commons:Forum someone complained this would have broken the template (Commons:Forum#Vorlage :On OSM). After the bot change was reverted it seems to work fine, again. Could this have been simply a caching issue? (I did no test, but just noticed the complain.)

On a general note. May I assume that your latest change in Module:Fallback means I could use named parameters in {{Autotranslate}}? Then Help:Autotranslate would need an update. — Speravir – 23:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Aah. I now see the param documentation in {{Autotranslate}} has changed … — Speravir – 23:03, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
{{Autotranslate}} when it was written as template only allowed unnamed parameters, but Lua version only did because nobody thought to allow named parameters. Now it can handle any parameters, and I was changing some {{Fallback}}s to {{Autotranslate}}s. {{Fallback}} still use the old fallback mechanism and were never upgraded to use modern Lua code. However, I discovered issues with {{Autotranslate}} which I described in phabricator:T196464. So now I am leaving {{Fallback}}s alone and thinking about just rewriting {{Fallback}} template to use modern Lua code. I have never seen Help:Autotranslate , but I can look at it to see if I can update it. --Jarekt (talk) 02:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Possible problem

I think that colon (punctuation) (:) this template is a problem in croatian language. In croatian language, after colon, the only words with capital letter can be proper nouns (nomen proprium).

So, gramatically, {{hr|Johann Sebastian Bach}} is correct (displayed as Hrvatski: Johann Sebastian Bach, Johann is proper noun), but {{hr|Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach}} (displayed as Hrvatski: Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach) should be written {{hr|skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach}} (displayed as Hrvatski: skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach) (skladatelj = composer, not a proper noun). I hope that I explained good, my english is not so good.

Any idea to solve this?--MaGa 09:42, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

I suspect most languages have the same issue, but Template:Hr does not force anybody to use upper case. Serbian speakers should use
Hrvatski: skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach
instead of
Hrvatski: Skladatelj Johann Sebastian Bach
. It is the same way as with capitalizing first letter in e sentence. It is up to people writing it to use it and if someone does no, I can not think of technical means to enforce it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, I think that 90% users presume capital letter after the | character. How about idea of changing the colon character in something else?--MaGa 15:37, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I do not know croatian language, but in Polish and in English colon seems to be the only punctuation sigh that make sense in this situation. --Jarekt (talk) 03:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, in croatian also. Any idea to solve this with somebody's bot?--MaGa 14:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

21:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

HI dear Jarekt,

I am writing to ask you whether it would be possible to restore these files concerning some of these portraits of an unknown artist executed between the seventeenth and eighteenth century, the artist since he died for 100 years, the most correct license included in the following files was PD-100 ,,,,

--Глнстый Карой (talk) 23:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Глнстый Карой, Many of those files are low quality, with minimal metadata. If I restore them I would felt obliged to spend too much time at finding better metadata and looking for better images. --Jarekt (talk) 01:37, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

that's why I would like to ask you this favor, but some improved versions of those portraits I own, it is precisely the reason why I'm asking you, I have the best versions, no need to do it thanks to the thought, thanks a lot , but I would just like to ask you to limit yourself to restore them, because I will overwork them,,, could you please at least present the list to the commons undeletion request please ???--79.31.200.33 19:15, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Out of scope?

Hi Jarek, regarding this picture. Can you delate it? Today I have taken a slightly better one. The former should have never been cropped for obvious reasons. Being the author, I am hanging my head in shame. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 21:37, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done, By the way this seemed like an interesting meeting. I found the book very useful when trying at some point to improve descriptions of the images in Getto warszawskie and Stroop Report. --Jarekt (talk) 02:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Yes, one of the best and the most informative. The seminal book on the Warsaw Ghetto. Thanks, again. Boston9 (talk) 06:18, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June

Greetings,

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Tuesday, 26 June from 18:00-19:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find more details, as well as date and time conversion, at the IRC Office Hours page on Meta.

Thanks, I look forward to seeing you there if you can make it. -- Keegan (talk) 20:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

23:10, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Category:Poland

Cześć – kategorie „Andrzej Duda” i „Robert Lewandowski” są niepotrzebnie w kategorii „Poland”, nie wiem dlaczego tak jest i nie potrafię tego zmienić – czy mógłbyś to poprawić? – pozdr. Darekm135 (talk) 06:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 11:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Problems with two files

Hi Jarek, I am currently in the process of uploading a small batch of pics from Treblinka II, and for some unknown reasons there are no description and license fields in these two 1 2. Compare this one. Shall I upload them once again? Thanks for your support. Boston9 (talk) 06:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Fixed, Boston9 I copied file description from File:Muzeum_Walki_i_Męczeństwa_w_Treblince_2018d.jpg to those 2 files. That was very strange, I have seen images without descriptions before but it is rare. I will see if there are more files like that. --Jarekt (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! Boston9 (talk) 12:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

What properties does Commons need?

Greetings,

Structured Commons will need properties to make statements about files. The development team is working on making the software ready to support properties; the question is, what properties does Commons need?

You can find more information and examples to help find properties in a workshop on Commons. Please participate and help fill in the list, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

RO GJ Biserica de lemn Sfantul Ioan Botezatorul din Rovinari

Hi Jarekt,

Please remove these files from your DR, I have corrected them and they don't need further intervention:

Thanks, Gikü (talk) 19:52, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt, Please tell me the reason of the deletion request.

@Kk123456123456: Yesterday we had some server issues and your uploads were uploaded without license and any metadata. They need to be reuploaded or fixed. See details at Commons:Deletion requests/File:1st earl Malise Graham Seal.png and Commons:Village_pump#Category:Files_with_no_description_pages_(uploaded_June_27,_2018). --Jarekt (talk) 20:18, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Well, may I upload it again? Or is there something else?

I clearly thought that this data was in violation. . It's the first case so I do not know how to deal with it. Is there any suitable means?

@Kk123456123456: , Please upload again. It was a technical issue why the files were not uploaded correctly. --Jarekt (talk) 01:52, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I will upload it again.

I uploaded it. please confirm.

Messi fans.jpg

Can I ask to delete File:Messi fans.jpg? I will reupload it. Thanks! :-) -- Tobby72 (talk) 20:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done--Jarekt (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

hello Mr. Jarekt, I am writing to ask you if you could find an improved version of this current portrait somewhere, see I have theorized that the only current version and excellent measures, (we are talking about 1200X1200 ECC measurements.) I personally think that the improved version of this current portrait is on the auction site named christies.com, but unfortunately when I went to see the original source, I came across this nightmare and full of useful links for several files, but I almost approached the original portrait ,, mapurtroppo the site was still rebelling, I could ask you for help ?? could you see if there is an improved version for this current portrait ,, (1200x1200) or (2000x3000) ?????--L673A (talk) 12:37, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

I look and I could not find better version. --Jarekt (talk) 01:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

00:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

CC Question

Hi Jarek, just a short question regarding this photo downnloaded from FB. Does this general license statement Creative Commons Attributions meet WC legal requirements? Boston9 (talk) 07:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Boston9 usually we do want the version number too, but in this case intentions are clear and defaulting to the current version seems OK to me. However someone could challenge that. --Jarekt (talk) 11:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 11:55, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, please undelete Template:BS-category/sandbox. It is a template sandbox, so it isn't supposed to be used anywhere (I tend to test templates in preview and may need to do so with this template in the future). Jc86035 (talk) 19:12, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Jc86035 ✓ Done but I blanked it so it does not show up in Category:Pages with script errors. --Jarekt (talk) 19:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Wikimania 2018
Partners and allies
Research

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

  1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
Development
  • Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

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Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix

Greetings,

The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

  1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Images without source

Hi, you edits of the past 24 hours have added over 200 files to the Images without source. Could you please prevent this from happening? I have spent many hours on this backlog over the past years. I am apparently the only one working on this backlog, although this category contains a lot of blatant copyright violations, some of which have gone undetected for over a decade. This is a very time consuming job. Jcb (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


Jarekt. This is an 1893 engraving after the ca. 1892 painting by William Merritt Chase. Chase died in 1916. Charles W. Kurtz, the author of the book in which it was published, died in 1909. And the book does not identify the name of the engraver. If not PD-old-100, what should the copyright tag be? == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 19:39, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

23:09, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Is there a script to convert {{Information}} to {{Photograph}}? It seems it would useful when pictures have an entry in Wikidata, i.e. d:Wikidata:WikiProject Visual arts/Item structure/Photographs, en:List of iconic photographs, etc. I am trying to fix WD entries for these. Regards, Yann (talk) 08:25, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Yann I would use Template:Information/subst2photograph template (version of Template:Photograph/subst template) by replacing "{{Information" with "{{subst:Information/subst2photograph|wikidata=Q..." as I did in here. --Jarekt (talk) 11:57, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
OK, but is there a script to do it, or should it be done manually? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:33, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Yann I do not have any scripts to do that, but I would use AutoWikiBrouwser to do the replacements. Also if you can generate a lookup table where one can look up wikidata item id based on file pagename than you can use trick described here to add different wikidata item ids to each page. AWB can be run in bot mode if you have bot account and if not I can run it for you. --Jarekt (talk) 14:00, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

16:00, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Removing the tag

Can you please review and remove tag on this picture? The author of it changed the licence on Flicker on my request. I can send you our conversation.--MaGa 18:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Author changed licence a few minutes ago to CC BY 2.0, so please change it again. Sorry for inconvinience.--MaGa 19:23, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Done, As I watched the license went from CC-by-nc to CC-zero to CC-by-2.0 and original license was PDM. It is now CC-by-2.0. Congratulations. --Jarekt (talk) 19:25, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for picture, and than your for congratulations.--MaGa 19:27, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Round 2 of Picture of the Year 2017 is open!

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Public Domain Mark 1.0 z kancelarii premiera RP

Dzień dobry.

Proszę o wyrażenie opinii ws. zgodności licencji Public Domain Mark 1.0 z wymogami Wikimedia Commons w przypadku fotografii pochodzących z kancelarii premiera RP, na przykładzie tego pliku:

Łukasz Szumowski 2018.jpg

Czy użyty tu szablon jest wystarczającym uzupełnieniem dla PD 1.0:

Public domain This work has been released into the public domain by its author, Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Poland. This applies worldwide.
In some countries this may not be legally possible; if so:
Chancellery of the Prime Minister of Poland grants anyone the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 18:43, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Expiry of GWToolset user group memberships

There is a proposal on the Bureaucrat's noticeboard to automatically expire GWT memberships after one year unless the user requests an extension. Please add your views and suggestions to the discussion. The reasonably informal process for getting access to GWT access will remain as is.

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@Rudolphous: , er gebeurde hier sinds februari 2013 niets meer mee. Ik voegde een bestand toe maar weet niet zo goed hoe het nu verder moet. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 07:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

19:39, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data feedback - Depicts statements draft requirements

Greetings,

A slide presentation of the draft requirements for depicts statements on file pages is up on Commons. Please visit this page on Commons to review the slides and discuss the draft. Thank you, see you on the talk page. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:20, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Map of Ursus

Hi Jarek, I came across thois file. It was cut and uploaded from this this document, p. 162 I have some legal doubts. Is this OK? Boston9 (talk) 12:12, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

I see no evidence of "own work". --Jarekt (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

bug in template:Complex_Date

Hello,

there seems to be a bug in template:Complex_Date when calling the "between" conjunction, see [200], do you think you culd give it a look? Many thanks! Rama (talk) 11:35, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Rama that seemed fine when viewed from in English. Was the issue in some other language? --Jarekt (talk) 20:23, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I'm in British English, that would explain why the bug went unnoticed for quite some time. Many thanks for your attention! Rama (talk) 08:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

17:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

16:46, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

File:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew (1939).jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

5.184.23.35 15:17, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Request

Hi Jarek, as I always I have great request. We received three photographs from Lęborski Klub Fotograficzny of a reenactment of the Battle of Świecino. Unfortunately, I have messed the names/titles of two pics up. This and this. It should be Mirosław Szuster, not Marek Drzewiecki. The captions are correct. Do you think you could correct/overrite this? Many thanks in advance. Boston9 (talk) 19:09, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 19:42, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you!!! Boston9 (talk) 20:14, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Adding warning when a painting is liking to a painting series?

Hi Jarek, hope you're doing well. At the moment File:Vincent van Gogh - The Arlesienne - Google Art Project.jpg links to d:Q602980. This is not correct because the Wikidata item is about multiple paintings and the image should link to one of the individual paintings. Happens quite a lot and hard to sort out. Maybe {{Artwork}}} can add a warning and a tracker category making it easier to find and fix these cases? Would also prevent these kinds of mistakes. You probably want to check your recent edits for a couple of examples. Multichill]] (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

There are types of items to which {{Artwork}} should not be linking, like instance of (P31) human (Q5) items. I already check all item's instance of (P31) against black and white lists and add pages that link to wrong type of item to Category:Artworks with wrong Wikidata item. I just added painting series (Q15727816) to the list and will clean up . --Jarekt (talk) 03:34, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Multichill, I started correcting files in Category:Artworks with wrong Wikidata item and associated items. The items related to painting series often need a lot of cleaning and new item creation for the individual paintings. Hopefully the list is not going to get much bigger because it takes a lot of time. --Jarekt (talk) 14:38, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
I told you it was hard ;-)
It takes quite a bit of time and expertise to sort it out. I often just tag paintings on Wikidata with painting series to sort it out later. Maybe better to make a separate tracker categories for the series? We also have other kind of series like sculpture series. Even cooler logic would be to add a message after the painting series explaining that it needs to be split up and suggest the artworks to choose from (part of contains the other works). Multichill (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Multichill, Yes it is a mess. I created Category:Artworks with group Wikidata item for images that are linked to "group" items (instance of (P31) set to painting series (Q15727816), sculpture series (Q19479037), artwork series (Q15709879), group of sculptures (Q27031439), group of paintings (Q18573970)). Some of them should be there but others I will be slowly cleaning. Also files in that category has disabled QuickStatements links which is the main way I transfer data to Wikidata (with help of quarry:query/24753). Is Category:Artworks with group Wikidata item what you meant by tracker category? May be the clean up instructions should go into the category description. It is easier, although not as cool. --Jarekt (talk) 13:25, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

16:15, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Prośba o pomoc

Cześć, mam mały problem z następującym zdjęciem: odznaka honorowa za zasługi dla ochrony zdrowia została zgłoszona do usunięcia, mimo że jest polskim odznaczeniem państwowym, które w mojej opinii nie jest chronione przez prawo autorskie. Czy mógłbyś mi pomóc w wyjaśnieniu tej sytuacji? Z góry bardzo dziękuję --WSZ83 (talk) 07:40, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

WSZ83, To zgłoszenie było dwa lata temu, jeśli plik cały czas jest to bym się tym nie martwił. --Jarekt (talk) 11:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Obawiam się, ze użyty przez ciebie szablon licencji dla tego pliku jest niewłaściwy. Są to ewidentnie skany odbitki z jakiejś publikacji, więc twierdzenie, że "Ta praca nie została opublikowana przed 1 stycznia 2003 r." bez podania danych bibliograficznych oryginalnej publikacji jest co najmniej gołosłowne. Pół biedy, jeśli to polska publikacja sprzed 2000; natomiast jeśli wydana w Polsce po 2000 (patrz tzw. prawo pierwszej publikacji) lub w USA (gdy (C) zależało od daty wydania) może być z tymi prawami różnie. Chyba, że jest to wewnętrzny druk Instytutu Piłsudskiego (ale taka gruba książka jako niepublikowany druk budzi moje wątpliwości). IMO, COM:PCP jeśli nie będzie więcej informacji. Ankry (talk) 14:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Prawdopodobnie z tej samej publikacji pochodzi File:Józef Piłsudski - List do rektora Uniwersytetu Wileńskiego - 701-001-173-001.jpg. Ankry (talk) 15:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
Masz racje, poprawiłem szablon na coś co jest chyba bardziej poprawne. Przemówienia Piłsudskiego są w domenie publicznej niezależnie czy były publikowane czy nie, ale warto by było dodać prawidłowe szablony. Na stronie Commons:Józef Piłsudski Institute of America/copyrights opisałem moja interpretacje które szablony pasują do której sytuacji, i czasu dużo spędziłem na ewaluacje dokumentów które dostałem od Instytutu. Większości dokumentów nie przesłałem na Commons. --Jarekt (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

16:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Start and end date for time periods from time period (P2348)

This edit has removed the start and end date of the period. I think it was good to have them. What about retrieving them from start time (P580) and end time (P582)? (And best future for Template:Period will be to more translations and date ranges to Wikidata anyway.) --Marsupium (talk) 20:13, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Marsupium, I never found them that useful as I do not work with such ancient artifacts. In fact that was the first image where I observed time period (P2348) being used. In {{Artwork}} I display information from the object item, plus the creator and institution items. Other than that I try to minimize number of full items loaded. Maybe the best solution would be to rewrite Template:Period, like this, so labels are based on Wikidata and one can access them with item ID. Than I could run an item from time period (P2348) through this template to get dates. --Jarekt (talk) 02:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
Okay, having this functionality in a separate template (or module) sounds like a good idea. (Start and end time retrieving can perhaps be implemented there later.) Could you indeed run them through Template:Period? Then only a fallback would be needed somewhere for the case Template:Period doesn't know the item. And rewriting the template can be done peu à peu. (I'm still working on Template:i18n/objects.) Thank you! --Marsupium (talk) 10:24, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data feedback - structured licensing and copyright

Mockups of structured licensing and copyright statements on file pages are posted. Please have a look over the examples and leave your feedback on the talk page. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Was it a "script error" in Module:Kinship?

Was this a "script error" in Module:Kinship? It would have been good to note if it broke something somewhere. If so probably because |1= wasn't set, and I would prefer to break things then since it is a required parameter and its lack makes the use of the template pointless. --Marsupium (talk) 11:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I do not remember much about this "fix", but I think what happen was that I was cleaning up Category:Pages with script errors and mostly fixing issues with my codes that occasionally send files there. There were some "script errors" which disappeared after that change. I guess a better fix would be to fix input parameters to template, and/or add some tracking category. Maybe we should undo that change and see what breaks. --Jarekt (talk) 12:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

22:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

21:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

15:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Regular expression for replacing {{Uncategorized-PIB}}

Hi @Jarekt: can you please tell me what will be regular expression for replacing Uncategorized-PIB category in AWB, Format will be like {{Uncategorized-PIB|year=2018|month=September|day=8}} Thank you Perumalism (talk) 13:51, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

I would start with \{\{Uncategorized-PIB\|year=\d+\|month=\w+\|day=\d+\}\}. --Jarekt (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Thank you Perumalism (talk) 14:26, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - upcoming changes to viewing old file page revisions

How old revisions of file pages work are likely going to have to change for structured data. There is information about the change on the SDC hub talk page, please read it over and leave feedback if you have any. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

New discussion on Commons talk:Structured data

Hello. I've started a new, important discussion about creating properties for Commons on Wikidata. Please come join in, if the process is something that interests you or if you can help. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Keegan, I noticed you will be at WikiConference North America 2018. In case you (or your teammates) will be there on Thursday/Friday, maybe we should organize structured data related meeting during hackaton. --Jarekt (talk) 17:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
That'd be great. @Astinson (WMF): you have something GLAM-related on Thursday, right? When works for you? Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:49, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
@Keegan (WMF) and Jarekt: missed this -- but happy to find some time at the Hackathon/tech day -- not sure what I am supporting yet, but would be happy to find some time for this. Astinson (WMF) (talk) 22:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

17:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - IRC office hours today, 4 October

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Commons today, 4 October 2018, from 17:00-18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find date/time conversion, as well as a link to join the chat in your browser if needed, on the IRC Office hours page on Meta. I look forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:49, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - search prototype

There is a search prototype for structured data on Commons available. Please visit the search prototype page on the structured data hub for information on testing and feedback. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 19:07, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Links to Holocaust denial websites

When you created the Stroop Report and pages for some of the individual images, such as File:Stroop Report - Warsaw Ghetto Uprising 13.jpg, you included links and references to Holocaust denial websites, including the Institute for Historical Review and a web blog called "Holocaust Controversies". I realize that the sourcing standard for Commons seems to be considerably lower than would be accepted at Wikipedia, but linking to Holocaust denying material should not be acceptable. (I don't know if you knew that these sites promulgated Holocaust denial—they are disguised to look legitimate, and Google often returns Holocaust denying material over legitimate websites). Catrìona (talk) 14:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Catrìona, that is a good point. I did not realized any of the websites I sourced were denial websites. However, I am searching for the highest quality version of each photograph I can find, and if holocaust denial websites host them than that is where I will get them. I am on vacation at the moment with very slow connection, but I agree that we should remove such links. If you can do it it would be great, but if not I will look into it after I come back. Thanks for pointing it out. --Jarekt (talk) 00:56, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
I have no problem with sourcing images from the best quality version, my issue is with using these websites as sources in image descriptions (such as this oneThe Journal of Historical Review is a known Holocaust denying "journal"). Holocaust deniers frequently use well known images such as the en:Captured Hehalutz fighters photograph‎ and en:A Jewish boy surrenders in Warsaw to "prove" that the Holocaust must not be that bad if some of the people photographed (allegedly) survived. Catrìona (talk) 02:00, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
Catrìona, I am still traveling, but if you believe information is true and can provide alternative sources to support the descriptions, than please feel free to swap the sources. Otherwise I will look into it latter this week. --Jarekt (talk) 00:19, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

23:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Request

Hi Jarek, can you have a look? The files have been overwritten. 1 and 2 Thank you! PS. I do remember about your request, I will visit the library end of this month. I am sorry for this delay. Boston9 (talk) 12:02, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 17:43, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Clarification needed

Hi, Jarekt! Can you clarify, who is who on this photo, please?--Yellow Horror (talk) 06:15, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Yellow Horror, I have no idea who is who. I just scanned the photo and provided the caption. --Jarekt (talk) 11:54, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Do you still have access to the source? Can you give me a look at the page(s) that is illustrated with the photo so that i can check the context?--Yellow Horror (talk) 12:07, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
I still have it somewhere, but I do not think there will be more information there. Your best bet would be to to find other photographs of both women and see if you can identify them. --Jarekt (talk) 12:45, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
By the way, Wanda Jarszewska was 20 years older than Stanisława Angel-Engelówna, so I guess she is on the right. --Jarekt (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Template translation

Where can I put the translation request for Template:Artwork?--MaGa 10:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

If you're looking for the left column labels it seems they mainly come from translatewiki, e.g. translatewiki:MediaWiki:Wm-license-artwork-notes/qqq, some perhaps from Module:I18n/artwork … --Marsupium (talk) 13:53, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
User:MaGa, Yes they are all over the place. let me know which one you want to translate and to what and I will try to figure it out. --Jarekt (talk) 00:13, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
I'm a little bit confused. There is difference between template example (at the top of the page), and variables of the template (in documentation section). Is there any possibility to see all variables with corresponding translation (if it exists)?--MaGa 19:46, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Template:Artwork is sort of in the flux, as I will allow many fields from {{Photographer}} and {{Book}} in it. The newest version is at Module:Artwork/sandbox starting with line 207. There are 3 ways field name is translated:
  • Fields with tag='wm-license come from translatewiki
  • Fields with tag='Q come from wikidata
  • Other fields are translated at Module:I18n/artwork
--Jarekt (talk) 01:19, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the link to Modul, but, I don't understant it. Below are untranslated fields in Template:Artwork:
  • Object type -> Vrsta
  • Original caption -> Izvorni naslov
  • Depicted people -> Prikazane osobe
  • Prikazana lokacija -> Prikazano mjesto (correction of existing translation)
  • Lokacija -> Mjesto (correction of existing translation)
  • place of creation -> Mjesto nastanka
  • lokacija pronalaska -> Mjesto pronalaska (correction of existing translation)
  • Exhibition history -> Povijest izlaganja
  • Authority control -> Normativni nadzor
  • Institution -> Ustanova
If there's more untraslated fields, please let me know. Thanks.--MaGa 14:41, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done Please see here] for others that might be missing in the future version. Possibly "Designer", or "Publisher" might be wrong. --Jarekt (talk) 03:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Great. Translation of Publisher is Izdavač, and Designer is Dizajner--MaGa 10:00, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Many, many thanks.--MaGa 16:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

22:40, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Wikidata place has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Mike Peel (talk) 09:44, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

✓ deleted --Jarekt (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Copyrights in relation to patents

Hi Jarekt! I noticed that in the past you were involved with patent license templates for uploaded files. Please join a discussion on the topic here: c:COM:Village pump/Copyright#Reproductions_of_patent_text_and_illustrations. —Catsquisher (talk) 18:03, 16 October 2018 (UTC)Catsquisher (talk) 17:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Idea for reference_url in template:Artwork

Hello,

do you think if would be feasible to use the qualifier "title" (P1476) of property "described at URL" (P973) to nicely render the link to the reference? I tried to do something myself before pestering you, it did not break anything but did not seem to do anything either [242]. I was checking the progress on File:Taweret-AF 2346-IMG 8029-gradient.jpg, where the URL http://cartelen.louvre.fr/cartelen/visite?srv=car_not_frame&idNotice=19824 could render as "La déesse Touéris".

Thank you in any case for your very impressive work, and good continuation! Rama (talk) 12:39, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

When designing code on how to use wikidata properties, I always look at the qualifiers in use any try to concentrate on the ones people actually use. Looking at qualifiers of reference URL (P854) it seems like only 16 files use title (P1476) qualifier. So if you think you going to use it on your files (and maybe start a trend), we can add it but otherwise it is not going to make much of a difference. --Jarekt (talk) 12:48, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
I will look at Module:Wikidata_art. --Jarekt (talk) 12:50, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Rama, I moved the development to Module:Wikidata art/sandbox, where I prefer to experiment on version of the code which is not live, and I added your example of Taweret-AF 2346 (Q56571605) to Module talk:Wikidata art/sandbox/testcases, so we can use it as preview. I think the issue is that my getPropertyQual function does not handle "Monolingual text" qualifiers, since I never needed such functionality. I can add it this evening, or you can beforehand. Just do it on Module:Wikidata art/sandbox version. --Jarekt (talk) 13:38, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
Right, will do! Thank you very much for your interest and support! I hope I eventually come to a sufficient understanding of your code base to contribute useful things. Cheers! Rama (talk) 16:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
PS: on the other hand I have no idea what the issue of "Monolingual text" qualifiers in getPropertyQual entails, so I will depend on you for this, but of course there is no rush. Cheers! Rama (talk) 09:58, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 Comment Jarekt, for reference URL (P854) you're right. For described at URL (P973) the equivalent query has just timed out for me. BTW: I'd also like this feature I think :-) Cheers, --Marsupium (talk) 00:30, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Marsupium you are right, Rama asked about described at URL (P973) and I looked up reference URL (P854). I will be camping this week, leaving soon, I so I can not look at this. I am a bit confused because I thought I added titles and support to text+language data type to getPropertyQual function, but now I do not see it, in the current code, so will have to do some digging around to see how it got lost. --Jarekt (talk) 02:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
I toyed a little bit with the code in your sandbox but at some point you reverted it and I was afraid that I had messed with something...
Incidentally, User:Harmonia Amanda told me that "Title" might not be the ideal property from which to extract a string to prettify links; there might be another property to take into account (either in priority or in combination to the title). I'll try to ask her if she can provite actionable information on the topic.
Cheers! Rama (talk) 06:31, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Hello, just to further the discussion a little but, is there anything useful that can be done with the code I had drafted here, or anything else more to the point that I could do to help? Cheers! Rama (talk) 09:17, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
PS: a aside, I think that template "Art Photo" has a small snag: its "Location" field is fed from "Collection" in Wikidata, which produces less than ideal results when museum have items of loan from other institutions. I'd be happy to give a hand if that does not cause more worries than it solves. Cheers! Rama (talk) 21:08, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
Rama I was away for a week, and not I am preparing for WikiConference North America 2018, so it might be a while before I will go back to working on template:Artwork. --Jarekt (talk) 17:03, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
Rama I deployed changes based on your code. I tested it, but please verify it works properly. --Jarekt (talk) 12:20, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Rama, about "Art Photo"'s small snag: That part of code is the same for {{Art photo}} and {{Artwork}} templates. Can you provide examples where current approach does not work, and what would be an output you rather see. --Jarekt (talk) 12:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for your time and attention!
I do not seem to be able to see the titles in the reference as the code should now implement it, I do not know why (I have tried different languages, Ctrl-F5ing the pages, previews...). Maybe something that the servers will catch up to.
The little issue I have with collections and locations can be seen at File:Paris as a shepherd by Auguste Renoir-MG 2858-IMG 1078-gradient.jpg, for instance: the work is in the collection of the FNAC (Fonds national d'art contemporain), which lent it to the Musem of Grenble, where it is on display. This is how things are described in Wikidata, but {{Artwork}} translates this as the location being both the FNAC and Grenoble, which makes no sense. I think we should source "Location" from P276 but not from P195.
Thank you again, good continuation to you, and a very enjoyable Wikiconference! Rama (talk) 19:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
I have found and corrected the problem: you included my code for the URLs, but not the one you have written in the internal functions to feed monolingual text to my code. I added your code to the production version of Artwork and now everything seems to be in order. I hope I did not break anything.
I also tried to add support for online catalogues, the code I tested in the sandbox seemed to run fine so I copied in into Artwork as well. Meanwhile Marsupium has already found ways to improve it so I'll look into this.
Cheers! Rama (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
Template:Wikidata person has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this template, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Mike Peel (talk) 09:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

23:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for taking some time out of your day on Sunday to help look into the properties needed on Wikidata. I very much appreciate it! Ping me anytime if you have more questions about the properties table as they occur. Happy editing to you. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:56, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Keegan, always happy to help. BTW, I began process of proposing new properties at d:Wikidata:Property proposal/Sister projects. Current proposal is a bit of an odd-ball and if you have ideas of how to better explain it, I am open to suggestions. I will also look into writing some bare bones Module:Information to be the engine behind {{Information}} and which will be easier to integrate with structured data. Maybe I can ping you once I have a sandbox version, to make sure it is heading in the right direction as far as future integration with structured data is concerned. --Jarekt (talk) 17:21, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:08, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

"Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio - Nativity with St Francis and St Lawrence - WGA04193" file

Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio - Nativity with St Francis and St Lawrence


File:Https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Michelangelo Merisi da Caravaggio - Nativity with St Francis and St Lawrence - WGA04193.jpg

Hi Jarekt. First, sorry for my English. I'm a Caravaggio scholar (for more info, see http://caravaggio400.blogspot.com/p/articoli-e-recensioni-di-michele-cuppone.html). I want to give a better Caravaggio's "Nativity" picture than the one you uploaded (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/Michelangelo_Merisi_da_Caravaggio_-_Nativity_with_St_Francis_and_St_Lawrence_-_WGA04193.jpg). Even if your picture was taken in 1967 and the one I send you in 1964, mine is more brilliant and has a higher resolution. I think it could be better, for scholars and simple readers, to have a better photo, even because the painting was stolen in 1969 and then this is the only way to see it. In addiction, you can change the year from "1609" to "1600" (or, at least, in "1600-1609"): new documents reveal that the Nativity was paintend earlier than we've always thought. Thank you

Cuppoz (talk) 14:53, 25 October 2018 (UTC)Michele

Michele, thank you for the upload. I clean it up a bit. We have several versions of the painting in Category:Nativity with St. Francis and St. Lawrence by Caravaggio but I think yours is the best. --Jarekt (talk) 16:41, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

photo chellenge

Hello, You added new params to the mainpage, which is broken now. I added a hotfix in form of a few divs (didn't checked the other mainpages where the template is used). Please look at the old revisions and fix the issue (I have no time right now to look into the parser functions/css you added). --Steinsplitter (talk) 16:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Steinsplitter, I was looking at old revision in Chrome and Firefox and on different size windows and I do not see any issues. What should I be looking for? Also my edit did not add any css or new parser functions, It was more of a switch from showing either announcement of photo challenge to showing either one, both or none. I also unified some parameter names so they follow similar rules. --Jarekt (talk) 01:58, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
here, the green border (Tested also with Edge). And at the currently mainpage the grean border is 2px instead of one. The issue does not exist if two boxes are shown (or the rev before your change to the template is used). --Steinsplitter (talk) 07:15, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
I see the issue. Thanks--Jarekt (talk) 16:22, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
Found the issue and fixed. :) --Steinsplitter (talk) 21:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

20:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - IRC office hour today, 1 November

There will be an IRC office hour for Structured Data on Commons today, 1 October 2018, from 17:00-18:00 UTC in #wikimedia-office. You can find date/time conversion, as well as a link to join the chat in your browser if needed, on the IRC Office hours page on Meta. I realize this may be short notice for some people; I am experimenting with advanced notice times to see what works best for the most people, I'll be giving more warning before the next office hour. I look forward to seeing you there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:02, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - IRC office hour today, 1 November

The above message says 1 October in the body when it should say 1 November, as the subject line says. Apologies for making a new section by mass message, it's the only way to get this out quickly. See you in twenty minutes! -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data - copyright and licensing statements

I've posted a second round of designs for modeling copyright and licensing in structured data. These redesigns are based off the feedback received in the first round of designs, and the development team is looking for more discussion. These designs are extremely important for the Commons community to review, as they deal with how copyright and licensing is translated from templates into structured form. I look forward to seeing you over there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 16:25, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

17:29, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

Unsuitable behavior

Your contempt for my work might be considered aggression. I do not believe it and I'm sure you have the desire to do well. Be more constructive and do not forget that a administrator must give the example of his qualities by his actions. I want, in the moment, forget this little misunderstanding --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:04, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Archaeodontosaurus, Your work as photographer is superb, but unusual layout of the description pages is just confusing and unnecessary. File pages are suppose to be as uniform as possible to help others navigate them and they are not suppose to have htlm tables or other unusual formatting as it is interfering with regular templates. Your reverts go against "You agreed to allow others to modify your work here. So let them." mantra explained in Commons:Ownership of pages and files. --Jarekt (talk) 14:42, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
The addition does not interfere with anything. By cons it comes over the automatic title and it is more complete. This addition also has the merit of being universal and apply to any image. I claim the right to be able to improve the work on COMMONS and I encourage the others to do it and this for all the types of image the debate having gone beyond the model ArtWork. Removing freedom of expression will kill the project. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 17:36, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Standardisation request for File:London tram cars.jpg, and a query..

I added some more information using {{Information field}}s but when I queried Fae on the Commons IRC channel about there being a project to track what sorts of fields were being added using this, they suggested I talk to you.

In respect of this media, if there's a more "appropriate" template this could be converted to use it should perhaps be converted to that, if you can suggest which one to use.

The more generalised query, is to do with a concern about their being the potential for collision of usage between, various of what might be the same named "information field" name. I will also not mine were in good faith added in English, and thus are not necessarily going to be automatically translated for users whose language is not English, Commons is multilingual isn't it?

If there was a version of {{Information field}} which utilised an appropriate Wikidata property perhaps ( which could be translated) I might feel slightly happier. Maybe is this something you could feedback into the Structured Data implementation? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:44, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

ShakespeareFan00, "Other fields" field in {{Information}} was mostly meant for creating other templates with additional fields or for adding preferred attribution line. People use it for adding other fields directly to the files but a prefered solution would be to use proper existing template. Some alternative infoboxes are listed in Commons:Infobox_templates. {{Artwork}} is at the moment most powerful as it can fetch most of the metadata from Wikidata, if you have item there devoted to your object. If I was uploading now file like File:London tram cars.jpg, which is based to a specific record in some official repository, I would create unique item for it on Wikidata and use QuickStatements to upload all the metadata and than use {{Artwork|Wikidata=..|...}}. To fix infobox of File:London tram cars.jpg without using wikidata, I would also use {{Artwork}} and try to map fields to the fields there. {{Artwork}} does not have a "publisher" (I am planning to add it and {{Artwork/sandbox}} already has it), so that field would have to be added by {{Information field}}, or for that file it should probably go into author field. --Jarekt (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
Used {{Photograph}}; but left the existing {{Description}} for comparison. I can remove the latter if you approve. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:51, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Polish cavalry in Sochaczew

Hi Jarek, I have just sent you an e-mail with the information. I hope it works. Best regards from Warsaw. Boston9 (talk) 15:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Adrian, Thanks a lot. It is a very interesting article. I think this photograph might warant a short article explaining what we know of it's history. I will look into writing one. --Jarekt (talk) 03:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

????

My photo Nyerges-hegy is alright, I already have that tag, I checked it!... what is your problem???Kapeter77 (talk) 08:01, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

I think you are refering to a tag I left on your page 5 years ago [249] . --Jarekt (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

Help with HMDB.org requested

Hi. Could I ask you to review my request for input/help at Village pump/Copyright#HMDB.org when you have a chance? Thanks! —[AlanM1(talk)]— 11:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

19:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Why did you delete this? I think that Creator templates should not ever be deleted, even if not used. Beside there is an issue with the place of death. Any idea? Regards, Yann (talk) 13:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Yann I have no idea why I have deleted it a year and half ago. I rarely delete non-empty creator templates. I might have been working on removing the unused ones after their metadata was moved to Wikidata, under assumption that they are at this point trivial to recreate. --Jarekt (talk) 13:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, currently the files using this template are in Category:Images without source, where they don't belong. Do you have another solution to fix this? Jcb (talk) 11:27, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Jcb it seems like field "strict" is broken. I will look into fixing it, but give me a few days. --Jarekt (talk) 13:23, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
Jcb I think it should be fixed now. Please verify. --Jarekt (talk) 16:57, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
As far as I can see, the files are still in Category:Files with no machine-readable source. Jcb (talk) 17:35, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Jcb, I do not know how files end up in Category:Files with no machine-readable source, all I know is how Category:Images without source is assigned. I looked at 2 files: File:Adriano, 117-138 ca, collez. albani.JPG which is not in Category:Files with no machine-readable source and File:'The Raising of the Cross' by Tania Dey.JPG which is. Both files use Template:Art photo with "source={{Own}}" and I did minor edits to both to make sure it is not a cache issue. Their html source codes have identical: <tr valign="top"> <td id="fileinfotpl_src" class="fileinfo-paramfield" lang="en">Source</td> <td> <span class="int-own-work" lang="en">Own work</span></td> </tr>, so it seems like that directory is assigned based on something else. --Jarekt (talk) 18:57, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
See meta:Talk:File_metadata_cleanup_drive/How_to_fix_metadata#Mystery_files_in_c:Category:Files_with_no_machine-readable_source. --Jarekt (talk) 19:13, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Ok, never mind. I am glad they are out of Images without source, because that is the one I do maintenance from. The other category is pretty useless anyway. Jcb (talk) 19:24, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

"Lua error in Module:Institution at line 562: Tried to write global AC_cats." I think this is related to your recent update. Can you check? Multichill (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

I am working on it. --Jarekt (talk) 15:50, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
It should be Fixed now and Category:Pages with script errors is emptying out. It was caused by Module:No globals, a module that converts sloppy and potentially unsafe code to actual errors. It is great at detecting unintended global variables, but each "discovery" shows up as error. --Jarekt (talk) 16:13, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it! Multichill (talk) 22:34, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

23:28, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

It appears as if your recent change of Module:Coordinates broke the {{Location}} template. Please have a look here. Thanks and regards, AFBorchert (talk) 07:38, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Yep, broken big time! Bidgee (talk) 07:51, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
The error appears to be at line 699. Bahnfrend (talk) 08:30, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
At least it isn't line 666! Bidgee (talk) 08:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
My analysis of this problem is at Module talk:Coordinates#Lua error in Module:Coordinates at line 699: Tried to read nil global frame.. --AFBorchert (talk) 08:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
This has now been fixed by Zhuyifei1999. --AFBorchert (talk) 09:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

22:21, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Jarekt. Can you explain the purpose of this edit to Template:Category redirect? On Category:Weather and climate in Mauritania, it seems to be just displaying text, which doesn't make sense to me. Thanks. --Auntof6 (talk) 08:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Czy __EXPECTUNUSEDCATEGORY__ tak powininno działać?

Piszę odnośnie tej zmiany. Mamy zainstalowaną wersję 1.33 MediaWiki, ale to magiczne słowo działa IMO niepoprawnie, ponieważ nie powinno być wyświetlane na stronie przekierowania, tak jak np. tutaj: Category:Flag of East Jerusalem. --jdx Re: 10:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Auntof6 and User:Jdx Thanks for alerting me about issues with this edit. I reverted it for time being and filed phabricator:T210496 bug report. The intention was to remove categories with {{Category redirect}} from the new Special:UnusedCategories list. --Jarekt (talk) 14:06, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Jarekt. That is a cool function. Do you know if it has been or will be implemented on the Wikipedias, too? --Auntof6 (talk) 19:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
I do not know much about this function other than what I learned from announcement in the message above. --Jarekt (talk) 21:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

looking up Entities by external identifiers

Hello my friend,
It seems that T99899 (Allow looking up Entities by external identifiers) has been implemented.
Do you know how to use this feature ?
In fact, when a species category has no Wikidata link, I would like in lua to lookup for an item having P373 (Commons category)==CurrentCategory
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 13:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Liné1, No I did not see any new Lua functions to support that feature --Jarekt (talk) 03:09, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Mickiewicz

Zauważyłem, że dzięki edycjom twojego bota Mickiewicz w polskiego poety przeobraził się w białorusko-litewskiego profesora (chociaż wg mnie profesorem to on akurat był francuskim). Ale jeśli uważasz, że taka informacja jest OK... Ankry (talk) 11:11, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Ankry Adam Mickiewicz (Q79822) went through a lot of changes since my edit. But you are right that the current data results in strange output. I had the same issues with other items. I fixed it for Creator template with local overwrites, but other infobox templates on other projects might not be fixed that way. The issue is that at the moment I derive nationality from country of citizenship (P27) and ethnic group (P172), but those are not perfect and the code do not allow more than two. At some point I proposed to create new property "Nationality" to fix that issue, but it was rejected. So at the moment there is no way to set Nationality. --Jarekt (talk) 21:07, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

16:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Artwork categories

Hi Jarek, shouldn't Category:Artworks with photograph information and similar categories be hidden and have an intro that it's set by a template? Multichill (talk) 16:29, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Multichill, I think it is now Fixed. --Jarekt (talk) 18:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Fall 2018 edition

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

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  • The info portal on Structured Commons now includes a section on GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums).
  • We are currently planning the first GLAM pilot projects that will use structured data on Wikimedia Commons. One project has already started: the Swedish Heritage Board researches and develops a prototype tool to provide improved metadata (translations, data additions...) from Wikimedia Commons back to the source institution. Read the project brief.
  • The documentation for batch uploads of files to Wikimedia Commons will be improved in 2019, as part of preparing for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. To prepare, the GLAM team at the Wikimedia Foundation wants to understand better which types of documentation you already use, and how you like to learn new GLAM-Wiki skills and knowledge. Fill in a short survey to provide input!
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17:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Requests

Hi Jarek, I have two great requests: 1) Could you please rename this photo as well? People are still making this mistake, my guess also because Google Graphics displays this pic in this way because of the file's name at Commons. Removing „Skryszewska” should do the trick 2) Problem with the file which was overwritten Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 13:31, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done By the way I wrote en:Polish cavalry in Sochaczew photograph. --Jarekt (talk) 03:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

20:34, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Multilingual captions beta testing

The Structured Data on Commons team has begun beta testing of the first feature, multilingual file captions, and all community members are invited to test it out. Captions is based on designs discussed with the community[275][276] and the team is looking forward to hearing about testing. If all goes well during testing, captions will be turned on for Commons around the second week of January, 2019.

Multilingual captions are plain text fields that provide brief, easily translatable details of a file in a way that is easy to create, edit, and curate. Captions are added during the upload process using the UploadWizard, or they can be added directly on any file page on Commons. Adding captions in multiple languages is a simple process that requires only a few steps.

The details:

  • There is a help page available on how to use multilingual file captions.
  • Testing will take place on Beta Commons. If you don’t yet have an account set up there, you’ll need one.
  • Beta Commons is a testbed, and not configured exactly like the real Commons site, so expect to see some discrepancies with user interface (UI) elements like search.
  • Structured Data introduces the potential for many important page changes to happen at once, which could flood the recent changes list. Because of this, Enhanced Recent Changes is enabled as it currently is at Commons, but with some UI changes.
  • Feedback and commentary on the file caption functionality are welcome and encouraged on the discussion page for this post.
  • Some testing has already taken place and the team are aware of some issues. A list of known issues can be seen below.
  • If you discover a bug/issue that is not covered in the known issues, please file a ticket on Phabricator and tag it with the “Multimedia” tag. Use this link to file a new task already tagged with "Multimedia."

Known issues:

Thanks!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk), for the Structured Data on Commons Team 20:42, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

OpenStreet maps

Hi Jarek, Marry Christmas! Short question: is this permissible in our project? Boston9 (talk) 10:20, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

I think it is, but I corrected the license and infobox. --Jarekt (talk) 04:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Category discussion warning

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Mike Peel (talk) 19:51, 29 December 2018 (UTC)