User talk:Jarekt/2017

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Happy New Year, Jarekt!

Happy New Year!

Jarekt, a new year is like a blank book, the pen is in your hands. It is your chance to write a beautiful story for yourself! Happy New Year 2017. Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 18:20, 31 December 2016 (UTC)


 Thank you. --Jarekt (talk) 16:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Photo Contest

The link at the bottom of the page goes to the Nov contest page.. --Don (talk) 00:42, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Don, from which page? --Jarekt (talk) 01:02, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photo_challenge/2017_-_January_-_Drone_photography - --Don (talk) 02:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Hiding Judy Gallagher categories

Hi Jarekt, I see that you have created a few categories like Category:Insect photographs by Judy Gallagher and its 4 subcategories. Although these are marked with HIDDENCAT, they are still visible in the pages of their parents categories such as Category:Insects, Category:Lepidoptera, etc. Could you please avoid this? Shouldn't the Judy Gallagher categories be user categories? Best regards --LamBoet (talk) 11:10, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

We can put them into Category:Lepidoptera by source or Category:Lepidoptera by photographer categories and such. --Jarekt (talk) 12:40, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
As far as I can see, these categories don't exist. Am I missing anything?--LamBoet (talk) 13:27, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
No they would have to be created, and than we can add many other such categories. --Jarekt (talk) 13:33, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I have seen what you just did (creating Category:Lepidoptera by source), but then you would have to create a full parallel category structure with "blabla by source" (for instance, in the case of Judy Gallagher photos, you would need to do the same thing for Insects, Coleoptera, Odonata, Hymenoptera and Spiders). Isn't there a simpler way? How about just keeping the user categories separate from the main categories, just like Category:Insecta by Jkadavoor (Jee) and its contents? --LamBoet (talk) 13:07, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
I was planning to create additional "by source" categories, without going too deep down the taxonomy level (stopping at order or family). Not creating "by source" categories would be and "easier way" but that is true with any category. For years we had categories like Category:Image sources for insects and Category:Images of animals by source but they are rather disorganized. --Jarekt (talk) 13:34, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-02

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Problems

  • Editors who use Firefox 50 might get logged out or fail to save their edits. This is because of a browser bug. Until this is fixed you can enter about:config in the address bar and set network.cookie.maxPerHost to 5000. Firefox 50 is the current version of the Firefox. [5]

Changes this week

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19:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-03

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Problems

  • video2commons was down for two weeks. This was because of a problem with Commons video transcoders. It is now back up. [7]

Changes this week

  • There is a new magic word called {{PAGELANGUAGE}}. It returns the language of the page you are at. This can be used on wikis with more than one language to make it easier for translators. [8]
  • When an admin blocks a user or deletes or protects a page they give a reason why. They can now get suggestions when they write. The suggestions will be based on the messages in the dropdown menu. [9]
  • You will be able to use <chem> to write chemical formulas. Before you could use <ce>. <ce> should be replaced by <chem>. [10]
  • You now can add exceptions for categories which shouldn't be shown on Special:UncategorizedCategories. The list is at MediaWiki:Uncategorized-categories-exceptionlist. [11]
  • The "Columns" and "Rows" settings will be removed from the Editing tab in Preferences. If you wish to keep what the "Rows" setting did you can add this code to your personal CSS: #wpTextbox1 { height: 50em; } You can change the number 50 to make it look like you want to. [12]
  • Sometimes edits in MediaWiki by mistake are shown coming from private IP addresses such as 127.0.0.1. Edits and other contributions logged to these IP addresses will be blocked and shown the reason from MediaWiki:Softblockrangesreason. This should not affect most users. Bots and other tools running on Wikimedia Labs, including Tool Labs will receive a "blocked" error if they try to edit without being logged in. [13]
  • When you edit with the visual editor categories will be on the top of the page options menu. [14]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 January. It will be on all wikis from 19 January (calendar).

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23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-04

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Recent changes

  • You can see a list of the templates on a page you edit with the visual editor. [15]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 January. It will be on all wikis from 26 January (calendar).

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20:14, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Copyright

Cześć, w haśle o warszawskiej katedrze zostało wstawione to zdjęcie. Czy zrzuty z Google Maps są dopuszczalne na Commons? Boston9 (talk) 17:36, 25 January 2017 (UTC) PS. Zignoruj proszę wiadomość na pl-Wiki. Szybkie palce!

Nie, nie sa, poniewaz en:Google_Maps#Copyright. --Jarekt (talk) 17:54, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Dzięki, widzę że zgłosiłeś. Dziękuję. Boston9 (talk) 19:20, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Nietypowa prośba – jak sprawdzić, ile fotografii się wgrało?

Hej, mam naprawdę lamerską prośbę: jak sprawdzić, ile dokładnie (liczba) zdjęć wgrał dany użytkownik Commons? Kiedyś to sprawdzałem, ale nie mogę dociec, jak to robiłem:(( Dzięki i przepraszam za kłopot! Boston9 (talk) 12:22, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Boston9, Spróbuj quarry:query/15837 i zmień użytkownika. Ty na przykład wgrałeś 12910 plików. Nie wiem czy ten numer to ma czy nie ma skasowane pliki. Może jest jakiś prostszy sposób ale nie pamiętam. --Jarekt (talk) 13:20, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-05

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Recent changes

  • The OAuth management interfaces now look slightly different. [16]

Changes this week

  • ElectronPdfService will be enabled by default on Meta and German Wikipedia. This is a new way to get articles as PDF files you can download. It will come to more wikis later. [17]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 31. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from February 1. It will be on all wikis from February 2 (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Community Tech team will develop more tools to handle harassment of Wikimedia editors. The goal is to give the communities better tools to find, report and evaluate harassment. They will also work on more effective blocking tools. [18][19]
  • The Wikimedia technical community is doing a Developer Wishlist survey. Developers can propose ideas before 31 January 23:59 UTC. This is soon.

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18:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

File:Commons-Wikidata links - 2015.svg

Hello Jarek,
I just discovered File:Commons-Wikidata links - 2015.svg which is very very clear and will be useful.
Sadly a small arrow is missing: P935 from Q9062435 to Wikicommons 'Pablo Picasso'.
Is there a small chance that you could add this arrow for me ?
I need your file because I try to explain this concept at different places, but your schema is much much clearer.
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 09:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Liné1, it is my understanding that Category items would not have any properties other than category's main topic (P301) (and instance of (P31)) and all the properties would be held at article item, so d:Q9062435 should not have Commons gallery (P935), and even Commons category (P373) might be removed in the future. The idea is not to store the same information in several places, so when it is corrected in one places, it is correct everywhere. --Jarekt (talk) 13:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Good to know.
As you seem to be familiar with all this, I have another question:
In biology, wikicommons has species categories and species galleries. But wikipedias have no species categories. So currently there is only one wikidata item per species. Conclusion: most wikicommons species category have no wikidata item!
Someone told me that we needed to create category item for all species.
Is that true ? I seems a lot of work.
I was waiting/hoping for another technical solution.
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 14:24, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1, Item has 2 main purposes - to store interwiki links (aka sitelinks) and properties. Category items only serve the first one and redirect to article item for the second. Most sitelinks to commons can not be trusted as they sometimes include links to commons categories and sometimes to galleries, see here. You should be relying on Commons category (P373) properties instead. Your conclusion that most wikicommons species category have no wikidata item is partially correct, there is no item accessible through sitelinks, but there are items on wikidata for articles about all those species, they should be linked to using q-code. What do you think about this idea: lets create a new template {{Wikidata taxons|Q....}} that will take only a single parameter a wikidata q-code. The template could evolve in the future but for now it would have: {{On Wikidata}}, {{Interwiki from wikidata}}, {{VN}} and in the future we could maybe add a version of {{Authority control}} with links to taxa databases and maybe optional {{Taxonavigation}} if it is rewritten to take q-codes. I could add {{Wikidata taxons}} to all taxon categories on Commons. I have done something similar to place and some people categories on Commons. See File:Using Wikidata on Commons - October 2016.pdf for some background. --Jarekt (talk) 15:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Sorry my friend, I did not fully understand your answer. Should we create 'wikidata category item' for all species ? Even if it means 100.000 items that most of the time will have no interwiki (there are no species categories in wikipedias) ?
About Qcode parameter, passing it to all templates seems a tedious work. We have so many species categories. We need to be sure that it is THE solution before trying that solution. Also if the item is merged with another, the wikidata Qcode does not follow. Liné1 (talk) 06:42, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1, I am sorry I was not very clear. In my opinion, there is no need for creating category items on Wikidata, unless there are categories for that species on other projects. The properties and interwiki links can be easily accessed by using q-codes to article items. I will create some example to show how. --Jarekt (talk) 12:38, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Ok, understoud. But as I said, Qcode param looks like a workarround. It does not seem robust enough. Best regards Liné1 (talk) 13:36, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1, I agree it is a workaround, but it allows us to use Wikidata now. I hope that if phabricator:T99899 is fixed than commons categories will be able to do reverse look up based on Commons category (P373). --Jarekt (talk) 13:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge/2016 - December - Holidays/Winners

Photo Challenge – Third Place
Congratulations!

Your picture Halloween costiumes - 1.jpg won the 3rd place in the Photo Challenge Holidays/Vacations, in December 2016. You can find the results of the challenge here.

I didn't realise the voting was scheduled to end today, rather than the end of the month. I closed it and announced the winners! My close has been reverted by User:Abderitestatos who spotted the date, but I think it should just be closed again. It isn't like there are hundreds of people still wanting to vote on it. And it isn't linked by the challenge page now. I don't see the point in extending the voting (or submission) to arbitrary days just because they start a little late. Better to keep to whole months. There's enough time for those who wish to vote. -- Colin (talk) 07:37, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes it is kind of my fault. I set the submission date 3 days latter than usual to allow potential new-years pictures, but did not notice that submission date would cause programs to schedule voting to close 3 days latter as well. I was equally surprised by User:Abderitestatos revert and that the page I created had on Feb-3 as the end date. I will watch for this in the future. As for Commons:Photo challenge/2016 - December - Holidays/Voting I agree that it was already closed (prematurely), tailed and announced, I would leave it at that. --Jarekt (talk) 12:50, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Your winning photo also has a spelling mistake. -- Colin (talk) 14:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
I renamed it earlier today. --Jarekt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-06

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Problems

  • The block log sometimes showed blocks as being much longer than they were. This has now been fixed. [20]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia pages will now be better at showing pictures when you share them on social media. The descriptions will be different too. You can see an example of before and after. [21]
  • There are some changes to the OOjs UI. Some old functions will not work anymore or not work as they used to. This could be a breaking change. [22]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Tidy will be replaced later this year. Instead, the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This will cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. You can see if your wiki still has something to fix here for one of the HTML problems. This list does not cover all problems. You can read about more problems. [23][24]

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19:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Jarekt/d

Creating the species categories automatically was perhaps not a good idea.
Now we have a bunch of species categories:

  • not attached to any genera
  • without any reference

Regards Liné1 (talk) 09:19, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

As expected, it introduced species categories for synonyms.
We will never see the end of it.
Liné1 (talk) 16:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1, Sorry, if I am messing things up, I will make sure to clean up before I move on to other tasks. I thought I was avoiding synonyms by verifying the name exist in Wikidata. Each category name I created I checked against Wikidata and if it was not there I was verifying that it exist by searching w:BugGuide and other databases. I corrected large number of typos or synonyms (see here and other edits at that time) before creating new categories. --Jarekt (talk) 17:09, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that thanks to your work, the names seems valid.
But Wikidata has multiple entries for each species: one per synonym.
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 09:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1, there is unfortunately not much I can do about synonyms if they are not tagged on wikidata, but I will check if any of the categories I created are tagged as synonyms. In the mean time I am done with category creation, so if you have a bot that can look through Category:Biology pages without Taxonavigation and see if there are any categories where Taxonavigation templates can be added automatically, that would be great. --Jarekt (talk) 20:23, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
I will run the bot.
But it copies the taxonavigation from genus category to species category and gallery only if: genus has a {{Species}} describing the species
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 09:23, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Liné1 Ok so maybe what I will concentrate on is grouping my new categories, without taxonavigation, by rank and adding taxonavigation to genus and up. I will also look into {{Species}} template. --Jarekt (talk) 14:25, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Suggestions for improvements for Wiki Loves Monuments

Hi Jarek,

It’s been a while  − hope you are well :)

The Wiki Loves Monuments international team (of which I am part of) is working on preparing the next edition. After many years of organising the contest, we believe there are still a lot of ways to make the project run even smoother, for everyone − organizers, participants, and of course the Wikimedia Commons community.

I am looking for the feedback of Wikimedia Commons users − not necessarily involved in the organisation/participation of the contest − on how WLM can better interact with Commons. My general message on the VP did not get much recall, so I’m reaching out to you as I trust your opinion :)

Have you noticed things that WLM does not do well and that we should improve on? How could we make the life of Commons regulars easier? etc. etc.

Feel free to answer me directly or to write on Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2016/Feedback.

Thanks! Jean-Fred (talk) 10:30, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Jean-Fred Wiki Loves Monuments is one of the few areas of Commons I hardly had any interactions with. I encountered hardly any issues with WLM, like I did with Wiki Loves Earth. So as an effect I do not have any feedback. Thanks for checking. --Jarekt (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
No problem − thanks for the answer Jarek :) Jean-Fred (talk) 08:56, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Pytanie o licencję GNU Free Documentation License

Hej Jarku, mam pytanie o prehistorię Commons dla mnie:) Na pl-wiki zgłoszono wątpliwość co tego zdjęcia. Chodzi o zapis photo © 2005 by M. A. Ch***, gdzie wgrywający nie jest autorem. Zobacz dyskusję na naszych stronach. Zaintrygowało mnie to. Czy naprawdę na GNU Free Documentation License można było wgrywać prace innych osób, tylko za wskazaniem autorstwa, tj. nie trzeba było na to przesyłać OTRS? Dzięki serdeczne za komentarz. Boston9 (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Przeczytaj Commons:Deletion requests/File:LK PiS nicaan 02.jpeg. --Jarekt (talk) 20:56, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Wielkie dzięki za pomoc i wyjaśnienie! Boston9 (talk) 21:04, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

News from OSM

Hi, I am quitting the discussion because I am clearly not helping there but I keep studying the problem. That means I ignored your ping, but no problem, it's not you, it's me.

As I said I have started to aske around in the mappers community. Good news from d:User talk:L0ll0 (in Italian) Basically it shouldn't be impossible to make a list of items from OSM layers (schools, parks...) and superimpose them with P18 on wikidata. I wanted to superimpose with all common images with coordinates but I am not sure if this is easy. Now, using wikidata of course has some problems because not all P18 are "perfect" and because OSM is not everywhere as precise as in Europe, but it gives you a decent map of some missing pictures.

So if you want to make a challenge about "X" even if it is not "Undocumented" we have another way to show X on a map (very good) even more detailed than wikidata. If we accept that "undocumented" is "not on wikidata" which is a simple approximation, we can also suggest users to go in that direction.

In any case we can use a "soft" approach. We give as theme "X" (school, town halls...) but we also suggest if possible to focus on points on the OSM layers without wikidata P18 tag. In the end consider "multilimgualism" this month: I simply politely ask for rare language or for more than bilingual sign, I did not impose it. And in the end, we are gathering almost all pictures with more than 2 languages or rare languages.

I don't care if some duplicates occur. I mainly want that people get in touch with possibilities. They can be queries, OSM, wikishootme... I am sure that if we give tools and a polite yet not rigid request they will enjoy discovering them, and they will try to fulfill the requests in any case. And noone is "stressed". And after some challenges this way, the expertise will be so high that we can afford to be more precise.

You tell me. It is a jungle of options that are still struggling to coordinate. Nothing is perfect, but their combination is already quite good. --Alexmar983 (talk) 11:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

I think I agree with other discussion participants that we should make it as simple as possible and Wikishootme seems to be very simple. I finally understand your approach with OSM and yes that could work except that many Commons images do not have geo coordinates. --Jarekt (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-07

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Recent changes

  • EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. For now it works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. [25]

Problems

  • The Firefox add-on Firefogg can cause problems with the Upload Wizard. This will not be fixed, because Firefox will not support Firefogg in the future. The Upload Wizard will no longer work with Firefogg. [26]
  • Tool Labs and Wikimedia Labs databases will be under maintenance on 15 February. This will start at 17:00 (UTC) and last for about six hours. Some tools could have problems during or after this. [27]

Changes this week

  • The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It will come to Meta and German Wikipedia this week. It is already available on MediaWiki.org. It will come to more wikis later. [28]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on the Catalan, Greek, Russian, and Italian Wikipedias in the middle of February. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. It will come to more wikis later this spring. [29]
  • The Developer Wishlist is a list where developers prioritize tools they need. The voting closes at 14 February 23:59 (UTC). This process is only for developers.

Review

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18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Xavier Badia files undeleiton

Thanks for the undeleiton of the files and for the advice. I'll review with Xavier the other files for if its templates needs to be fixed. Greetings. --Dvdgmz (talk) 23:28, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Category:S._Pietro_Ispano,_Boville_Ernica,_Rome

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If you created this category, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for discussion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it. If the category is up for deletion because it has been superseded, consider the notion that although the category may be deleted, your hard work (which we all greatly appreciate) lives on in the new category.

In all cases, please do not take the category discussion personally. It is never intended as such. Thank you!

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Tech News: 2017-08

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Recent changes

Changes this week

  • Page Previews will be updated on 23 February. This fixes many bugs. Page Previews can be turned on as the Beta Feature called Hovercards. [31]
  • There has been a problem where the CSS of gadgets has been loading twice. The Gadgets extension has two new options: type and peers. The type option solves this problem. You can use peers to create gadgets with more than one style module. Read more about type and peers. [32]
  • OAuth will handle blocked users in a more consistent way. [33]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 February. It will be on all wikis from 23 February (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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19:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Jill Saward 080627b.jpg

Hello. I contacted the uploader Gryllida about File:Jill Saward 080627b.jpg. (S)He wanted a "grace week". To grant a "grace week", can you remove the "permission missing" tag, or can you convert the speedy deletion request into the deletion nomination? --George Ho (talk) 22:31, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

George Ho thank you for contacting the uploader. I added some a week to "permission missing" tag and if an image is deleted if you ping me I will undelete it once permission is received. --Jarekt (talk) 03:02, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-09

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Problems

  • On 22 February the wikipedia.org portal did not work for an hour. This was because of a problem with a JavaScript file. [34]

Changes this week

  • You will be able to use <chem> to write chemical formulas in the visual editor. Previously this only worked in the wikitext editor. [35]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You can soon upload 3D files to Commons. The file formats are AMF and STL. The plan is for this to work later this week but it could be later. [36]
  • The name "Wikipedia" will be more obvious at the top of the page when you read Wikipedia in the mobile view. This is because many readers don't realize they are on Wikipedia. [37][38]

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19:55, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

wikidata_cat

Hi Jarekt, you added the wikidata_cat field to {{Artwork}}. This makes files like File:Study for "A Sunday on La Grande Jatte" MET DT3136.jpg not show up in Category:Artworks with Wikidata item. I think it's better to wrap it in an #if to test if it's actually set to something. this edit seems to do the trick. Multichill (talk) 17:01, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Multichill, I do not remember why we needed wikidata_cat field, but quite often templates that add category has some way to suppress it in a rare case when it is not desirable. For some reason the way it was implemented on Commons is by {{{category|[[Category...]]}}} syntax (not my invention). In majority of the cases you leave category empty to prevent autocategorization. Wikidata_cat field was meant to be used extremely rarely and I have no idea why uploaders of File:Study for "A Sunday on La Grande Jatte" MET DT3136.jpg decided to suppress categories. Your tweak goes against current way of using the field . As it is mentioned in the documentation "wikidata_cat=" can be used to suppress addition of Wikidata-related categories. Maybe we need a new field like no_wikidata_cat that someone would have to set to something to suppress the categories. Than we could retire wikidata_cat and in the process check all the current uses. I am fine with removing the field completely, and than adding no_wikidata_cat for a few situation that might need it. --Jarekt (talk) 17:13, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
It gets automatically added by the GWtoolset because it's an optional field in template data. Any idea how to prevent that? Multichill (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
I still never learned how to use or configure GWtoolset so no idea at that end. However we can run a bot to mass remove it from files in Category:GWToolset Batch Upload. Bunch of other fields should not be there either like: demo, strict or other_fields. But we can not prevent it from happening in the future unless we implement "no_wikidata_cat". --Jarekt (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
I played around on beta to figure it out again. I tried to remove the demo field, but that didn't have any effect. Easiest is probably to have a bot remove the incorrect fields. Only the inclusion of "wikidata_cat" is breaking things, the rest is cosmetic. Probably best to only do edits on files that have "wikidata_cat" and remove the other fields in the same edit. Would you be willing to do this or shall I fire up a bot?
As for fixing GWtoolset. I'll file a bug, but I don't think anyone is going to work on it soon, see phab:T159478. Multichill (talk) 20:29, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Multichill, I am working on it now. I am using substitution, similar to Template:Artwork/subst. --Jarekt (talk) 19:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I guess suddenly a lot of new painting suggestions will pop up in my reports. Multichill (talk) 19:54, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Bot edits

Hi, if you do such edits, please make sure you fill the source field. You are flooding Category:Images without source. Jcb (talk) 23:38, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Jcb, I do not know the source of those files and I am not removing the any sources. All I am doing is removing " wikidata_cat=" field from the upload which field was added for some reason to the files and is preventing the template to add wikidata related categories. I also resort fields in customary order. However if the files are missing source than you need to alert the uploader that forgot to add it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:30, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
My edits must be working like "touch" command and triggers addition of categories which were added to templates after the upload. --Jarekt (talk) 03:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I see. It's weird that the files were not added to the 'missing source' cat on upload. I have fixed the mayority in the meantime. Jcb (talk) 12:32, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-10

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Recent changes

  • You can now search on English, French, Hebrew and Greek wikis and find words even if you forget the diacritics. It also works if you use diacritics in your search but the wiki doesn't. [39]
  • When you use the mobile view and click on a link to an article in another language you will see that article in the mobile view. Previously it changed to the desktop view. [40]

Problems

  • Some watchlist gadgets didn't work for a period of time last week. This has now been fixed. [41]
  • Admins who click on "mass delete" on a user's Special:Contributions will be taken directly to a list pages created by that user. It has worked like this before, but not lately. [42]

Changes this week

  • The way you switch between wikitext and the visual editors in the desktop view has changed. It is now a drop-down menu. This is the same as in the mobile view. [43]
  • The "flag the edit in the abuse log" checkbox will be removed from the abuse filter interface. This is because the edits are always flagged in the abuse log. [44]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).

Meetings

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Clarification

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23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Matlab Logo.png

File:Matlab Logo.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

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Tech News: 2017-11

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Changes this week

  • You will be able to show references from <references /> tags in more than one column on your wiki. This is the list of footnotes for the sources in the article. How many columns you see will depend on how big your screen is. On some wikis, some templates already do this. Templates that use <references /> tags will need to be updated, and then later the change can happen for all reference lists. [45][46]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).

Meetings

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Future changes

  • Some old web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis in the future. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [47]
  • CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. [48][49]

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15:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Hi, you just restored this image File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg by saying that the permission was received and deleted it again. I don't understand. Can you explain me more please?--The realreport (talk) 13:13, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

The realreport, Only after undeletion I noticed that the photos were marked "© Photo Scott M Wemhoff" but the permission come from "Emmanuel B." claiming that he has "legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work". So I asked "Emmanuel B." to clarify how he come to represent Scott M Wemhoff. That will need to be clarified before this ticket can be approved. --Jarekt (talk) 13:27, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Yes, In fact, Scott Wemhoff sent you an email too. This is Scott [Ticket#2017012010010668]. I'm Emmanuel B and this is my [Ticket#2016121310031176]. I did send an email before but some administrators told me that Scott had to send you an email instead, something that he did two month ago as I mentioned at the beginning by linking two tickets #. Scott and I have the copyright of these images that you deleted in Lassy Mbouity category because we shoot photos together, specially these photos concerning the writer Lassy Mbouity. This is why we both sent you emails in order to give you the permission to use these images. Can you restore these images please? We hold the copyrights and giving you the authorization to use these images about Lassy Mbouity.--The realreport (talk) 16:57, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

The realreport , Thanks, It is quite confusing since the full conversation is in 3 tickets each handled by someone else without knowledge about the other ones. I restored files in Category:Lassy Mbouity. --Jarekt (talk) 20:11, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Again thank you so much you are really good administrator.--The realreport (talk) 00:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Yes, Indeed I think there was someone who tried to make a campagne against this African writer, certainly from the french speakers. I was confused as well. Thank you so much. We all know that a lot of people are now using wikipedia for personal attacks.--The realreport (talk) 00:26, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Hi Jarekt, Can you help restore the image on Lassy Mbouity wikipedia page as it was before, please? Thank you again for your help.--The realreport (talk) 01:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Lassy Mbouity with Dr Rand Paul in 2015.jpg

Thank you more Jarekt--The realreport (talk) 02:36, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Uploads made by User talk:Délie Duparc

Hi Jarekt,
I see that you validated the OTRS ticket for File:Portrait de Marguerite Soubeyran.jpg, and I am very grateful for that. I would like to ask you to have a look to the other uploads made by Délie Duparc (see here for file list). All those uploads have been made on January 5, a little bit more than 2 months ago. Thank you in advance !
Kind regards, Polypone (talk) 07:40, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Polypone I am kind of new to OTRS and at the second look I made mistake with this ticket. The ticket claims that Délie Duparc is "sole owner of the exclusive copyrights" of this painting, which I did not noticed was by someone else ( Evelyn Marc). Sadly I will have to delete it and check with Délie Duparc on how she become "sole owner of the exclusive copyrights" of Evelyn Marc works. --Jarekt (talk) 13:20, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Jarekt,
Thank you for your answer. I understand that it is not easy to check all those copyrights, and I am sure it is a lot of work. I encourage you to send Délie Duparc an email to get details about the copyright ; I am related to her, and I helped her uploading the files, as she is not used to Wikimedia, but she used her own mailbox to send the tickets, and she reads her emails every day. For your information, the situation is as follows :
  • Evelyn Marc, Willy Eisenschitz and Claire Bertrand all died before the end of XXth century ;
  • Délie Duparc was the only child of Evelyn Mark, that is why she owns copyright on all her works ;
  • The only other alive copyright owner for Claire Bertrand and Willy Eisenschitz's pictures is Bernard Eisenschitz, who gave Délie Duparc a written approval to upload those files.
    I don't really know how you can check this information, but I am sure that Délie Duparc owns all needed documentation for that. Do not hesitate to send her an email.
    Kind regards, Polypone (talk) 15:39, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Polypone thank you for clarifying. I did not realized that "Délie Duparc was the only child of Evelyn Mark", that would make her the copyright holder. I will write again with more precise instructions. What is her relation ship to Willy Eisenschitz and Claire Bertrand? --Jarekt (talk) 16:02, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
I just figured it out: Délie Duparc is their granddaughter. --Jarekt (talk) 16:05, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have clearly specified the relationship between Délie Duparc and Willy Eisenschitz and Claire Bertrand. Anyway, you got it :) Polypone (talk) 16:27, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Polypone, I just found that Délie Duparc who sometimes signs her name as "Estelle Delvolvé" (see http://www.film-documentaire.fr/4DACTION/w_fiche_film/48948_1) sent permission for other works of her mother and grandparents in ticket:2017010510011187 handled by @Krd: . Unfortunately, she did not replied when asked what was her relationship to those painters. Krd, I think fr:Evelyn Marc clarifies the relationship. --Jarekt (talk) 16:39, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

I was not aware that Krd asked for more details about her relationship with the three painters. It is a pity she did not answer you. I expect she will be more reactive to your other messages... I will make sure she answers. Kindly, Polypone (talk) 16:53, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
Dear Jarekt,
I have seen that you restored all the files. Thank you very much ! Polypone (talk) 15:35, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Polypone, Yes I forgot to mention it here. I restored the files and placed them in all the articles they were removed from. We should also create {{Creator}} templates for 3 painters and add them to the files. Also it would be nice to use {{Artwork}} in those files. Is that something you can do? --Jarekt (talk) 17:17, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
It took me time to understand what you wanted, but I eventually got it. It's done . Polypone (talk) 11:43, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 Thank you. That is what we aim to do for all artworks. --Jarekt (talk) 11:48, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

PD-Polish raz jeszcze

Myślałem, że w miarę ogarniam tę licencję, ale wciąż się jednak uczę. Chodzi o wgrane własnie zdjęcie Stanisława Broniewskiego. Moja wątpliwość, jego odpowiedź. Czy ma rację? Serdeczne dzięki za komentarz. To by mi rozszerzyło możliwość wgrywania zdjęć pod tą licencją. Boston9 (talk) 21:00, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Boston9 Andros, dyskutuje na tematy PD-Polish dłużej niż ja i jest dobrze w nich obeznany. Niestety większość co "wiemy" na temat tej licencji to to co wymyślili Wikipedyści i o ile mi wiadomo, bez żadnych ekspertów prawnych poza Wikipedią popierających tą teorie prawną. Wiec nie wiadomo kto ma racje, tylko wiadomo na jaka interpretacje zgodzili się wikipedyści w przeszłości. Dla mnie to o ile jestem w stanie znaleźć zdjęcie w jakiejś Polskiej publikacji i ta publikacje nie zastrzega praw autorskich (wszystkich czy niektórych) zdjęć to używam PD-Polish. Jeśli odbitki zdjęć były udostępnione dla publiczności bez oficjalnego wydawania to też używam (np. File:Grzegorz Przemyk funeral - 03.JPG). Jeden problem co czasami zauważyłem to ludzie twierdzący ze dane zdjęcie zostało wydane w danej książce, ale jak zajrzę do tej książki to go tam nie ma. Wiec w przypadku tego zdjecia ja nie sądzę ze Copyright by Państwowe Wydawnictwo Naukowe dotyczy zdjęć zwłaszcza ze to zdjęcie najprawdopodobniej nie miało praw autorskich w 1983, ponieważ one wygasły 10 lat po pierwszej publikacji (Art 27 [50] ). Co do konieczności zaznaczenia copyright bezpośrednio na fotografii, to się zgadzam ze ustawa tego wymagała, ale ja bym się na to nie powoływał bez sprawdzenia pierwszego wydania, bo każdy może to przyciąć. --Jarekt (talk) 04:06, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Muszę przyznać, że nie studiowałem nigdy obydwu ustaw, i fakt, że zdjęcie wchodzi do domeny publicznej po 10 lat od publikacji, a nie 70 od śmierci autora, jest dla mnie istotnym novum. Zawsze jak widziałem „Copyright...” czy „Wszelkie prawa...” (a pierwsze książki mam z tym już z końca lat 40.) odstępowałem od jakichkolwiek działań. A więc w praktyce wszystkie zdjęcia, opublikowane w PRL, można wgrać na Commons. Zastanawiam się więc, dlaczego tak mało osób to robi? Boston9 (talk) 05:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
Fakt ze zdjęcie wchodziło do domeny publicznej po 10 latach od publikacji, ma w tej chwili tylko znaczenie historyczne jako ze prawo z 1994 przywróciło prawa autorskie dla większość tych zdjęć. Wspomniałem na temat tych 10 lat aby pokazać dlaczego wydawcy tej książki się nie martwili prawami autorskimi zdjęć. --Jarekt (talk) 11:57, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-12

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Save page button now says Publish page or Publish changes on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publish page is when you save a new page and Publish changes when you edit an existing page. [51]
  • DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [52]
  • You can see monthly page views when you click on Page information in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [53]
  • The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [54]
  • The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [55]

Problems

  • On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [56]

Changes this week

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Shift+X on PCs or Cmd+Shift+X on Macs. [57]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).

Meetings

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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Christopher Maude Chavasse

Hi Jarekt. Please could you kindly give a second opinion on the above deletion request? I am currently attempting to track down the name of the author of the painting concerned, but there is also a problem with the reason for the deletion request, and the implication therefrom that hundreds of thousands of Commons images which are PD in their own country of origin and residence, have suddenly become non-PD on Commons (?) Thanks for your help. Storye book (talk) 10:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the information that you added to the above page. As the page doesn't show on the basic watchlist, I'm just letting you know that I've added another question there. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 09:23, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-13

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Recent changes

  • When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [58]

Problems

  • Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [59][60]

Changes this week

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14:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Inappropriate revert

Sorry, Jarekt, but please take a very close look on your revert: I had only made changes on text, that I’ve written myself before. There was no other text affected. — Speravir – 17:58, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Speravir, I agree that is inappropriate revert. I am not sure what happen since I did not read anything on Commons:Administrators' noticeboard today. I had issues with very slow responses earlier today and that had a large delay between my actions and responses which resulted in several clicks where I clicked on something but nothing happen, but than more of the page loaded and the text shifted so when the click was finally processes there was no link there or a different link. That might have happen when I was looking at my watchlist. I closed some applications and restarted my browser and it become normal again. It does not seem likely, but only other explanation is that someone hacked into my account. Either way I apologize. I fixed it now. --Jarekt (talk) 18:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
OK, for me the case is solved. — Speravir – 18:29, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

hello

Hello thank you for your alert. It's true that there are some copyright infringements I have requested to delete but no one has done so. But most of the deleted pictures belong to me, meaning I own them. You participated in the 2015 Earth Wiki Contest. So check yourself before you block my account. Thank.--ABDO2008.DZ (talk) 12:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)-

Please check your following edits. Thanks.

[61], [62], [63]. --Arnd (talk) 11:52, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Arnd That does not look good I will search for the rest and revert. --Jarekt (talk) 11:55, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0-bd

Your bot nominated this for deletion some time ago but then you removed the template. So I thought I would let you know that I have now nominated it again. Cheers, De728631 (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Problems regarding File:The_Most_Reverend_Joseph_Tang_Yuange.jpg

Why my message was not sufficient? And what should I do to make a new sufficient message? Thanks.

I reply to the OTRS email, but I wanted to make sure that the person sending the permission was the author or copyright holder of the the photo of the poster and of the poster itself including the photograph in the poster. It seems to me like this is a photograph of some one else's photograph, so Commons:Derivative works policy needs to be applied. --Jarekt (talk) 14:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
The photo is my work but the poster is not, and I chose the wrong option in the email generator. So, what should I do now, should I regenerate a message?
Your permission is fine but we also need permission from the photographer who took the original photograph.--Jarekt (talk) 14:56, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
The poster and original photograph are not my work.--Zhanglide (talk) 03:02, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Than we need to delete the image, unless we get the permission from the original photographer. --Jarekt (talk) 03:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I think it fits {{FoP-China}}.--Zhanglide (talk) 03:28, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
The poster is a work of our diocese.--Zhanglide (talk) 03:31, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I will nominate for deletion and others can figure out if this is a case for {{FoP-China}} or something else. --Jarekt (talk) 04:00, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Help converting paintings to Artwork template

Hi Jarek, I'm working on converting {{Information}} to {{Artwork}} for images of paintings. Because that makes it possible to link these files to the right item on Wikidata. I wrote down my reasoning at my kladblok (notepad permalink). Do you want to help? I already finished Category:Paintings in the Netherlands by museum, but plenty of other categories with a lot of painitngs. My approach is to take a subset in Petscan, maybe apply some negative categories and manually convert some files using {{Art Photo/subst}} (when it's not just a photo of a painting). The remaining files I convert using {{Artwork/subst}}. Seems to work quite well. A lot of the files pop up at User:Multichill/Same image without Wikidata/Category match (see for example all the Van Gogh works). After a while I do a petscan query to add the missing {{Creator}} or {{Institution}} for files that haven't been matched up yet so these show up at one of the subpages of User:Multichill/Same image without Wikidata. Multichill (talk) 19:22, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I will look into it in a day or two, since I will be heading camping with some boy-scouts today and tomorrow. I wonder if we can do something about Category:Artworks missing infobox template while we are at it. --Jarekt (talk) 19:35, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Great! Have a nice weekend. I'm sure we'll get to these at some point. Multichill (talk) 09:27, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Did you have a look at this? Multichill (talk) 11:16, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
I did. I left a comment at User:Multichill/Kladblok. I also added {{Artwork}} to a lot of paintings, and will try to add to some more. --Jarekt (talk) 13:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Oh, didn't notice your edit! Thanks for helping out. User:Multichill/Painting images no artwork template gets updated twice a day. Quite a few interesting edge cases in that list. Multichill (talk) 14:47, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Save page button now says Publish page or Publish changes on most Wikipedias. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately. Publish page is when you save a new page and Publish changes when you edit an existing page. [64]
  • The tracking category Category:Pages with template loops is now added when a template loop is found. A template loop is for example when a template tries to use a second template that uses the first template. [65]
  • English Wikipedia now has cookie blocks. It will come to more wikis in the future. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [66]

Problems

  • Wikidata descriptions, aliases and labels that used some characters could not be saved. This has now been fixed. [67]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 April. It will be on all wikis from 6 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next office hour with the Wikidata team. The meeting will be on 5 April at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

{{Location}}

Hello Jarekt, I noticed that you worked on the said template thus I suppose you're the most suitable one to attempt to fix a small problem I faced using it. I geolocalized this photograph using Wikidata coordinates ({{Location|||region:IT-RM_dim:150m_heading:267|wikidata=Q29117604}}) but, though it seems to work well, I receive the warning Error: Invalid parameters! (as you can see, too). Now I don't know if I'm doing something wrong. When I use the coordinates instead of | wikidata = the said warning doesn't appear. Regards! -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 08:15, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. Wikidata based {{Location}} template makes little sense unless the item on wikidata is about the photograph. In most other cases I can think of you should use {{Object location}}. However the issue I think was caused by empty {{{1}}} and {{{2}}}. I will see if I can fix this. --Jarekt (talk) 12:09, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Changes this week

  • Some older web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis from this week. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [70]
  • New filters for Recent changes will come to Wikidata and Persian, Russian, Turkish and French Wikipedia on 11 April. The schedule has been changed to fix the user intent prediction filters for some wikis. User intent prediction means the filter tries to make it easier for editors to determine if the edit was made in good faith or not. Other wikis will get it later. [71]
  • The list of special characters in the wikitext editor and the visual editor will now have a group of Canadian Aboriginal characters. [72]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 April. It will be on all wikis from 13 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
  • RevisionSlider will change how you move between revisions. This will be available on the test wiki from 11 April. It will come to other wikis later if users like the change. You can test it and give feedback.

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18:34, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:Piłsudski Institute document

Przyznam, że nie wiem co jest z tym szablonem nie tak, ale ewidentnie coś przerzeźbiłeś. Zerknij tutaj. Ankry (talk) 14:54, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Mówisz o "[[Category:Artworks with known accession number|..." to z tego powodu. Planowałem to kiedyś zreperować, ale coś mi się jeszcze nie udało. Trzeba będzie nie dodawać "sortkey" jeśli jest za długi albo ma tabele. --Jarekt (talk) 15:03, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Permissions for two images files for Kingston Choral Society

Hi Jarek,

In creating a page for Kingston Choral Society I used two images uploaded by a colleague, with an email from an officer of Kingston Choral Society giving full rights. You've marked both images as needing a specific-text email giving the rights specifically, or they will be removed. I'm working on this.

So I've used the tool to generate two such emails, one for each image, and both were sent today to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org by a current officer of the society. I'm writing to let you know, and to ask if I can be told whether those emails have done the trick, as I am new to all this. I'm hoping to have the problem tags removed. I/the society genuinely own all rights to these images and wish to allow Wikipedia full use to them. Pls guide me if there's something else we need to do.

The images are

and

.

Thanks in advance for your help. Luke Reader (talk) 21:59, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Resolved
--Jarekt (talk) 02:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Perfect - thank you. Luke Reader (talk) 12:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can add ?safemode=1 to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [73]
  • You can now see a list of all autoblocks on Special:AutoblockList. [74]
  • The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from [[File:Wiki.png]]. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [75]

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.

Changes this week

  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • stats.wikimedia.org will be replaced. You can see the new prototype. You can leave feedback on this change.
  • Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [76]
  • From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [77][78]

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19:31, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

template help question

Hello Jarekt, i hope you can help me with {{Decade years navbox}}. it seems the template does not like category names including commas.

i added the template to Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2016, DE-TH (cat_suffix=, DE-TH has to be used there) and expected links to Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2014, DE-TH and Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2015, DE-TH to be displayed. The template works well on Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2016 in Germany (similar, but no comma in suffix). Do you know a workaround, or can you fix this? Holger1959 (talk) 01:16, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

That is because the template assumes a space before and after the year and Category:Images from Wiki Loves Earth 2016, DE-TH does not have space after year only comma. It is easy to write new template that does not assume spaces, but I do not think we can fix the current one since it is used on 231,932 pages. --Jarekt (talk) 01:32, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
Many thanks for the good explanation! with so many pages its understandable that this is "won't fix". And an extra template only for a few WLE categories is probably too special. maybe i will find an other solution in the future. Holger1959 (talk) 11:04, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

Changes this week

  • The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [82]
  • Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [83]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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16:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Jarekt. You have new messages at Template talk:Creator#What to do with redundant fields?.
You may remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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Sealle (talk) 16:50, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Porządek

Dzień dobry.
Ta cała seria to są ewidentnie fotografie ekranu telewizyjnego:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PA-3.png
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles/Trappist2
Artur Andrzej (talk) 17:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Artur Andrzej, Dziękuje za dokończenie. --Jarekt (talk) 01:07, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-18

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.

Changes this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [87]
  • The Publish changes, Show preview and Show changes buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding &ooui=1 to the URL. [88]

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19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Lavlja nastamba and Spiljski lav

I am author of photos. I take them in Zagreb Zoo with my private photo camera..--August Dominus (talk) 3:39, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Perły z lamusa

Na czym polega problem i jak mogę go rozwiązać?

Perły z lamusa

Nigdzie tego nie znalazłem, wstawiłem to bo nie wiedziałem co mam wstawić do szablonu licencji.

File:Radiohead Curfew advert.jpg

Hi. You tagged File:Radiohead Curfew advert.jpg as missing license information. Forgive me, but despite years of Wiki experience, I still find uploading/licensing media extremely confusing, and always seem to get something wrong. I can't figure out how I should correct the file.

I do not own the image copyright, but I emailed the owner asking for permission, and he granted Wiki full permission, which I have forwarded to the relevant address. (I think.)

What do I need to do? ̴̴̴̴

File:One could still feel the smell of fear. by Erik Pevernagie.jpg

Thank you for your attention. I added :

Copyright status: File:The Fish is Red.jpg

license

Hi I got your message. I used the template provided by Wikimedia Commons to upload the files. I don't understand exactly what you expect from me, I am not a specialist. These pictures are genuine and I took them myself. I believe they are a nice addition to the article. kindly help if you can — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imageuploader2 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Actually I believe I did the necessary correction now. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.151.231.20 (talk) 15:14, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

William Hobart Sr Steel House Polecat Road

Jarekt,

I have grown up using this vacation home at the address that this Wikimedia page refers to. Would you please contact me by email alxhbvo@aol.com or by phone so that you can walk me through how to edit this page? The photograph and some of the text is inaccurate.

Thank you,

Alex Hobart Bravo (937) 339-6845 — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 104.240.165.88 (talk) 15:29, 06 July 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Pages using Information template with parsing errors

Hi Jarekt. Please I'm Just Making Category:Pages using Information template with parsing errors a Speedydelete. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 104.243.169.185 (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Creator

Pilnie poszukuję informacji o zmianach w działaniu Creatora. Z góry dziękuję --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 15:37, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Szczebrzeszynski, Szablon {{Creator}} został ostatnio przepisany by mógł opierać się ne informacjach w Wikidata. Wiele drobiazgów w nowej wersji jeszcze nie działa na 100%, ale w większości przypadków jedynie co trzeba dać do szablonu na Commons to "Wikidata" i "Options" a szablon resztę znajdzie na Wikidata. Jak coś brakuje na Wikidata to lepiej tam dodać. Nowy kod dodaje dużo kategorii Category:Creator_template_maintenance które ja patroluje i poprawiam. Niestety jeszcze nie przepisałem dokumentacji. --Jarekt (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Dziękuję za wyjasnienie, ale mam wątpliwości np. co do narodowości, która była w Creatorze określana jednoznacznie dwuliterowym kodem, a w Wikidata przynależnością państwową. --Szczebrzeszynski (talk) 18:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Szczebrzeszynski, No Commons to dwuliterowy kod państwa a na wikidata q-code państwa, gdzie można znaleźć ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code (P297) by dostać ten sam dwuliterowy kod. --Jarekt (talk) 18:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-19

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on Hide categorization of pages in your watchlist preferences. You can turn off Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw. [89]
  • There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May. [90]

Changes this week

  • When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say Visual editing and Source editing instead of Switch to visual editing and Switch to code editing. This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using. [91]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users. [92][93]
  • Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If -{ is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use -<nowiki/>{ for transclusions and %2D{ in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use -{ in a template: {{1x| sad :-{ face }}. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. [94][95]

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02:24, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:NARA-image-full "ARC" to "NAID"

Hey Jarek. I was wondering if you could help me to update all instances of the term "ARC" for the NARA identifier in Template:NARA-image-full. As NARA now uses a National Archives Identifier (abbreviated "NAID" for all records), I'd like to use that in future uploads. For now, since there are so many files already uploaded using "ARC", it would be great if you could add a NAID version in just as recognized parameter for each place ARC is used (e.g., "ARC" or "NAID" accepted, "Series ARC" or "Series NAID" accepted, etc.). Thanks so much! Dominic (talk) 19:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Dominic, Will "Series NAID" be just an alternative name for "Series ARC", "NAID" for "ARC" etc.? --Jarekt (talk) 02:15, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, for now they can just be alternative parameter names, so both work. We can't remove the "ARC" parameter until we edit all the existing uploads using that template, which would be a big job, but I'd just like to be able to use the current terminology for future uploads. Dominic (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Dominic, I think I am ✓ Done. Please check. I also moved one of I18 page to Template:I18n/archive which is used by other templates. I also created d:Q29896325, in case you want to add something to it. --Jarekt (talk) 13:26, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Creator Template

Hi, Please review the rules of the Creator temple. If possible, a self-portrait or a portrait should be placed, and if and only if neither exists one can place an image of a work of the artist. Regards. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 12:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Archaeodontosaurus, Template:Creator explanation of "image" field explains: "Image of the creator. Self-portraits are preferable". Please stick to the use of that field which is consistent with how it was used in the past which is also compatible to wikidata's image (P18) and wikipedia's use of images in people infoboxes. --Jarekt (talk) 12:54, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Negative. Finish to read the sentence it is possible if the self-portrait does not need to put a portrait by another author and if the latter does not exist an image of one of these works. This point is widely used, I have not invented it, and many others have understood it.--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 13:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Archaeodontosaurus, what text are you looking at? All I see is "Image of the creator. Self-portraits are preferable. One can use CatScan2 to find all the creator templates without images used within files which are in the Category:Self-portraits.
  • Corresponds to image (P18) in Wikidata. Be careful, might contain a work by or an image of the author. Need to add some smart logic or better: Create a new more specific property."
The last bullet is about how one has to be careful with use of image (P18) because back then P18 occasionally contained a works by the author and we did not want to copy those. Is there any other text you see somewhere? --Jarekt (talk) 14:09, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I have understood the technical nature of the possibility of creating a specific field for a work. I understand that it is not desirable and I agree. My point concerns only the authors, necessarily very old, for whom we have no image and we will never have any. Rather than leaving the field empty, it is better to place the image of one of their work. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
The issue is that for last 10 years we were using this field for images depicting authors and we have mostly hand curated dataset of such images. The only case we used images by be authors (instead of depicting the authors) was namepieces of anonymous masters, like Creator:Master of the Brunswick Diptych. In all other cases I find the current practice of not having an image preferable to having wrong image. If you want we can discuss it further at Template talk:Creator. --Jarekt (talk) 15:09, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-20

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • The mediawiki.util library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try adding mw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' ).done(function(){ as the first line in the file and }); as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue. [98]

Changes this week

  • The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences. [99]
  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

Older unreported changes

  • Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word __NOGLOBAL__ to your Meta user page to stop this. [104][105]

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21:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Module:Wikidata label

Hello. {{This template}} (assuming all the others countries templates as well) displays the country name correctly (in my language, be-tarask, is Славаччына), but for somewhat reason links to an article at the be-wiki (not be-tarask). Do You have an idea how to fix it? --Renessaince (talk) 07:27, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Renessaince, I track it down to phabricator:T112426, but I am not sure how to handle it. I do not want to write messy fixes in Module:Wikidata label, because I am likely to break something else in this very widely used module. Please let them know at phabricator:T112426 how that affects you, as I suspect that this might be a low priority issue for them. --Jarekt (talk) 12:52, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Help

Hi Jarekt, could you please take a look at Template talk:BioAcousticaSample. This caused that [[:Category:Pages using Information template with parsing errors ]] has been flooded. Thank you in advance, --Arnd (talk) 05:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Arnd, ✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 03:00, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

File:Warsaw Uprising by Haneman - Holy Cross Church - 44.jpg

File:Warsaw Uprising by Haneman - Holy Cross Church - 44.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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188.95.26.50 13:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Your VFC installation method is deprecated

Hello Jarekt, we are aware that using the old installation method of VFC (via common.js, which you are using) may not work reliably anymore and can break other scripts as well. A detailed explanation can be found here. Important: To prevent problems please remove the old VFC installation code from your common.js and instead enable the VFC gadget in your preferences. Thanks! --VFC devs (q) 16:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-21

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
  • There will be a <div> tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this. [106]

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22:02, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-22

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Problems

  • Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen. [107]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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12:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

NLI again

Hello Jarekt,

You have operate now JarektBot that changed creator templates to the new format but in the new format NLI ID (The National Library of Israel) disappear. see Creator:Moshe Milner and see the same creator before her. Can you please fix it somehow? -- Geagea (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Geagea, The way it works now is that {{Authority control}} supports much more different identifiers but sorts the available ones in an order of relevance based on the preferred language and in case of Creator table only 6 most relevant are shown so many individual country libraries will only show up to people from that country if other more relevant links are present. As a result NLI will show if your preferred language is Hebrew:
משה מילנר  (1946–)  wikidata:Q28750411
 
משה מילנר
שמות חלופיים
Miylner, Moše; Milner, Mosheh‏; Moshé Milner; Milner, M.‏; Mîlner, Moše; Miylner, Mošeh
תיאור צלם ישראלי
תאריך הלידה 1946 לערוך בוויקינתונים
מיקום הלידה גרמניה
קובץ זהויות
creator QS:P170,Q28750411

and not show if your preferred language is English:

Moshe Milner  (1946–)  wikidata:Q28750411
 
Moshe Milner
Alternative names
Miylner, Moše; Milner, Mosheh‏; Moshé Milner; Milner, M.‏; Mîlner, Moše; Miylner, Mošeh
Description Israeli photographer
Date of birth 1946 Edit this at Wikidata
Location of birth Germany
Authority file
creator QS:P170,Q28750411

. Does that make sense? --Jarekt (talk) 01:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that make sense. But I, like a lot's of other users from he.wiki, using English as a preferred language. The result in fact that the Hebrew version got -BNF and in the English version we got -NLI. I think both should be in both languages. In some cases we have only VIAF and NLI so in the English version we see only VIAF. I think that if we have all in every language is the simple and the best way. -- Geagea (talk) 05:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Geagea, using all is no longer an option, since we support too many of them. For example see below how Creator:Leonardo da Vinci would look like. Full set of identifiers is just one click away at wikidata or VIAF.
Leonardo da Vinci  (1452–1519)  wikidata:Q762 s:en:Author:Leonardo da Vinci q:en:Leonardo da Vinci
 
Leonardo da Vinci
Alternative names
Birth name: Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci; Leonardo; da Vinci; Leo. da Vinci; Leonardo Da Vinci; Leonard; Léonard
Description Italian painter, engineer, astronomer, philosopher, anatomist and mathematician
Date of birth/death 15 April 1452 / 1452 Edit this at Wikidata 2 May 1519 / 1519 Edit this at Wikidata
Location of birth/death Anchiano Amboise
Work period –1519 Edit this at Wikidata
Work location
Amboise; Florence; Mantua; Milan; Rome; Venice Edit this at Wikidata
Authority file
creator QS:P170,Q762

. --Jarekt (talk) 11:47, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

But if there are only 2 or 5 or 10 authority controls then all can be there I believe. I really don't see a point in removing BNF id from the hebrew version or removing NLI id from the english version. I think that if there are 10 items or less, all should be seen.-- Geagea (talk) 13:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Geagea, Ok so I drew the threshold at 6 and you draw the threshold at 10 identifiers per Creator template. That is not that different. Creator:Leonardo da Vinci has 21 and its Wikidata page has 70 identifiers, which might be added to {{Authority control}} in the future (if community decides). I suspect that changing the threshold from 6 to 10 will add NLI only in small fractions of pages as most will have either less than 6 or more than 10, but it would make many creator templates look much wider. I do not see much advantage that NLI has over 70 other identifiers we have for d:Q762 or other similar items. Actually we have 7 NLI identifiers for d:Q762 so they seem less useful than others as identifiers. If you want we can start broader discussion to see what is the optimal number of identifiers shown by {{Authority control}} in {{Creator}} templates and how wide should {{Creator}} templates be. I would not mind having broader consensus on that. --Jarekt (talk) 13:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, the situation which there are more than one identifier happens also in other cases and we use only the first one. Normally they should be unified to one id. Anyway I am less care the case of Leonardo da Vinci. I'm more care the case when the person is a Hebrew author or Israeli. As a matter of fact I do not see a problem with wider creator template, Anyway 6 id's are to low (should be at least 8). May be it is also option to use only the name of the identifier and the link will lead to the id number. For example instead of VIAF: 24604287 we have only VIAF. That can allow much more id's. -- Geagea (talk) 21:16, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
I like your idea of not showing the identifier numbers just names. I will try to look into it. However I am a bit swamped with current work on module:Creator, so I can not promise when will I get to rewriting Module:Authority control. If nothing happens in a while feel free to ping me. If you know Lua, you are also welcome to try the change yourself. --Jarekt (talk) 14:20, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
In your free time, of course. Thank you for your answer. I don't know Lua so when you have a time...-- Geagea (talk) 09:26, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can see new files on Special:NewFiles. You can now pick which dates you want to see files from. [109]
  • When you read Wikipedia on a mobile device the first paragraph now comes before the infobox. [110]
  • You can now remove navigation elements from your results when you search. This could for example be part of an infobox that is only there to help you find the previous or next article. [111]
  • New users on Wikivoyages and Wikipedias (except French, English and German) now get a notification when a page they created is connected to Wikidata. Other wikis will get it 13 June. [112]

Problems

  • The MediaWiki version from two weeks ago was rolled back. It was fixed late last week. Changes that were planned to go out last week did not happen. [113]

Changes this week

  • Wikimedia wikis can show fewer links to articles in other languages. This is to make it easier to find the languages likely to be useful to the reader or editor. Everyone can still click to see the full list. Logged-in users who use the compact language links will see languages they have in their Babel box on their user page in the first, shorter list. You can turn the compact language list off or on in your preferences. [114]
  • You can choose what dates to look at when you look at a user's contributions. [115]
  • When you click on your watchlist in the mobile view you get a list of all pages in the watchlist instead of the latest changes to them. Logged-in users with at least ten edits will now get the latest changes instead. [116]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
  • String comparisons in Scribunto modules are now always done case-insensitively by byte order. Before they were sometimes in a case-sensitive US-English collation order. This could break some modules. [117]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The 2006 wikitext editor will be removed the week of 27 June. This is the old toolbar with small square blue buttons. You can see a picture of it. 0.03% of active Wikimedia editors use this old tool. They will not see a toolbar at all. [118][119]
  • Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron already works on German Wikipedia. It will be on English Wikipedia later this week so you can test it there too. [120]
  • The Architecture Committee will change and get a new name. You can read and comment on the draft that describes the new committee.

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19:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Creator template

Hello Jarekt, how are you going? I created Creator:Eshaq Jahangiri yesterday. Please excuse me, I didn't realise it was not what we used the template or namespace for, and I'll take a look at the guidelines again. However, it was a surprise to discover it deleted without any notice. In the future, would you mind notifying me or anyone else in the same situation with an explanation as to why it happened? So that we can learn from the experience. Cheers! seb26 (talk) 15:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

seb26, You are right I should have explained it more. You should read Commons:Creator, but the idea is that creator templates are are used for people that create a lot of writing, artwork, etc. and the templates are used in the author field of the infoboxes and Creator:Eshaq Jahangiri seems unlikely to be used that way. --Jarekt (talk) 16:12, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for this! Noted seb26 (talk) 02:41, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi again Jarekt. I also created Creator:Ali Khamenei a while ago. Do you know of a template that allows this same biographical information to be presented on the page in a localisable table with birthdate and image and such, but for when the subject is not a creator of works? seb26 (talk) 01:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
seb26, You can do this. It shows the infobox, but it is not a template and we do not watch or maintain it. --Jarekt (talk) 01:47, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much, I think that was what I was looking for at the very beginning. Cheers. seb26 (talk) 01:48, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Glad I can help. --Jarekt (talk) 01:50, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

OTRS backlog

Hi. Wondering if I can help with the OTRS backlog. I came to WC in 2007 to add images but find that I spend more time and research, nominating 'delete' and 'speedy'. Today, I helped to speedy 5 images. See User talk:Uptan. So I think I can guess what OTRS reviewers need to do. Does OTRS have probation period to see if I can make good judgments? P.g.champion (talk) 21:16, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

P.g.champion, The place to volunteer to OTRS is at m:OTRS/Volunteering. One nice thing about the task is that you can cherry-pick which ticket you want to handle, so at the beginning you can pick "easy" cases that well fit one of the predictable categories. And we do have many well written standard replies that cover most cases we see. You can also check Commons talk:OTRS/Archive 2 for some thoughts on handling tickets in permissions-commons queue. Thanks for volunteering and let me know if I can help with anything. --Jarekt (talk) 12:25, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Some wikis have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. When you write an edit summary there you can now see how many bytes you have left before the summary is too long. [121]
  • When you search on Wikipedia you can now find pages on other Wikimedia projects that could be relevant. You see them next to the search results. [122]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 June. It will be on all wikis from 15 June (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You will soon be able to get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account. You can test this on the test wiki. This will only work if they fail to log in to your account. [123]
  • Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron now works on all Wikimedia projects. [124]
  • Administrators can soon search for deleted page titles and find results that are similar to what they searched for. Today the search only finds pages that are exactly the same as what you search for. This is to make it easier to find pages when you don't know the exact title. Administrators on Arabic, Catalan, English, Persian, German, Italian, Polish, and Russian Wikipedia and on mediawiki.org can test this by adding &fuzzy=1 to the end of the web address when looking at Special:Undelete. [125][126]

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15:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Username change

Dzień dobry.

Jeśli jest możliwa zmiana nazwy użytkownika, proszę o pomoc. Chcielibyśmy zmienić tego użytkownika:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Murimoto

na oficjalne, imienne konto: Krzysztof Wójcik.

P. Krzysztof jest trójmiejskim dziennikarzem. Bardzo prosimy o poprowadzenie.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 19:07, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Artur Andrzej, Ja bym po prostu założył nowe kato pl:Wikipedysta:Krzysztof Wójcik i zaczął je używać zamiast pl:Wikipedysta:Murimoto. Trzeba by było dać notatkę ze oba kata należą do tej samej osoby i wyjaśnić ze jedno było używane przed jakąś datą a drugie po jakiejś dacie. Kąto założone and Wikipedii będzie tez działać na Commons. --Jarekt (talk) 19:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Tak byłoby najprościej, ale chodzi o zachowanie historii, t.j. wgranych zdjęć. Jedno zostało usunięte, ale czekam na mail od autora zdjęcia i zwrócę się lada dzień o przywrócenie (OTRS).

Artur Andrzej (talk) 19:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Artur Andrzej, Od kilku lat jeden wikipedysta ma jedno kato używane na wszystkich projektach Wikipedii. Wiec nie można zmienić na Commons bez zmiany ma Wikipedii i vice versa. na Wikipedii instrukcje zmiany kąta są na pl:Wikipedia:Zmiana nazwy użytkownika która cie przekieruje do meta:Steward requests/Username changes. Ja jako admin na Commons nie mam jak w tym pomóc. --Jarekt (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

MON license

Hi Jarek, can you have a look? The website's content has been copyrighted for years and this statement (second and third paragraphs) directly excludes licenses approved for Wikimedia Commons. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 11:55, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

You are right. See Commons:Deletion requests/Template:MONCopyright. --Jarekt (talk) 12:37, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • ORES had some problems on 13 June between 16:00 and 19:40 UTC. It has now been fixed. [127]

Changes this week

  • irc.wikimedia.org has to be rebooted. This will probably happen on 21 June. It may be postponed. Some tools use this to get the recent changes feed. They will not work when it is down. [128]
  • Special:PageData will be an entry point for machine-readable page data. [129]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 June. It will be on all wikis from 22 June (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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15:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Technical question

I'm translating into Croatian Template:Other date. In Croatian, in all cases years are written with dot (e.g. 1910.), but decades are written without dot and with suffix -ih (e.g. first decade of 20th century is written as 1910-tih). Which parameter should be used in turn of the decade (year without dot at the end)?--Ma▀▄Ga 10:24, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

The code responsible for this is Module:I18n/complex date. You are welcome to propose the changes. You can also just tell me which Template:Complex date/examples in Croatian are correct and which are wrong and if they are wrong tell what they should be. --Jarekt (talk) 16:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Everything is correct but decades (written above).--Ma▀▄Ga 18:55, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
User:MaGa, {{complex date|decade|1910|lang=hr}} gives "1910-ih
date QS:P,+1910-00-00T00:00:00Z/8
", which I guess is correct (without dot). {{complex date|turn of the decade|1920|lang=hr}} gives "kraj 1910-ih i početak 1920-ih" which I guess is not correct. Template:Complex_date/examples&uselang=hr has a lot of entries in red which must also be wrong. --Jarekt (talk) 22:17, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
It is exactly. What should I write in template translation for "turn of the decade" at talk page? My english is not so good, maybe we don't understand.--Ma▀▄Ga 15:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
User:MaGa, in the table below write in the column 5 ("should be") what would be the correct date in Croatian. I will than try to add it to the template. --Jarekt (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


{{{1}}} parameter Code current output (en) current output (hr) should be
Julian {{complex date|Julian|1865-01-19|1865-01-07}} 19 January 1865 (7 January 1865 in Julian calendar) 19. siječnja 1865. (7. siječnja 1865. prema julijanskom kalendaru) 19. siječnja 1865. (7. siječnja 1865. prema julijanskom kalendaru)
by {{complex date|by|1999}}
{{complex date|by|1999-04}}
{{complex date|by|1999-04-01}} 		by 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9

by April 1999
date QS:P,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/10

by 1 April 1999
date QS:P,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/11
 do 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9

do travnja 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/10

do 1. travnja 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/11
 do 1999.
do travnja 1999.
do 1. travnja 1999.
until {{complex date|until|1999}}
{{complex date|until|1999-04}}
{{complex date|until|1999-04-01}} 		until 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9

until April 1999
date QS:P,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/10

until 1 April 1999
date QS:P,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/11
 do 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9

do travnja 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-04-00T00:00:00Z/10

do 1. travnja 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/7,P582,+1999-04-01T00:00:00Z/11
 do 1999.
do travnja 1999.
do 1. travnja 1999.
millennium {{complex date|millennium|1}} 1st millennium
date QS:P,+0500-00-00T00:00:00Z/6
 1. tisućljeće
date QS:P,+0500-00-00T00:00:00Z/6
 1. tisućljeće
turn of the decade {{complex date|turn of the decade|1920}}
{{complex date|turn of the decade|1800}} 		late 1910s and early 1920s
late 1790s and early 1800s 		kraj 1910-ih i početak 1920-ih
kraj 1790-ih i početak 1800-ih 		kraj 1910-ih i početak 1920-ih
kraj 1790-ih i početak 1800-ih
turn of the century {{complex date|turn of the century|2}}
{{complex date|turn of the century|20}} 		turn of the 1/2nd century
turn of the 19/20th century 		kraj 1. i početak 2. stoljeća
kraj 19. i početak 20. stoljeća 		kraj 1. i početak 2. stoljeća
kraj 19. i početak 20. stoljeća
turn of the year {{complex date|turn of the year|1992}} late 1991 and early 1992 kraj 1991 i početak 1992 kraj 1991. i početak 1992.
spring {{complex date|spring|1999}} Spring 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720559
 proljeće 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720559
 proljeće 1999.
summer {{complex date|summer|1999}} Summer 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720564
 ljeto 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720564
 ljeto 1999.
fall {{complex date|fall|1999}}
{{complex date|autumn|1999}} 		Autumn 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720568
 jesen 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720568
 jesen 1991.
winter {{complex date|winter|1999}} Winter 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720553
 zima 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40720553
 zima 1991.
beginning
early 		{{complex date|early|1999-08}}
{{complex date|beginning|1999}} 		early August 1999
date QS:P,+1999-08-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719727

early 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719727
 početak kolovoza 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-08-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719727

početak 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719727
 početak kolovoza 1999.
početak 1999.
mid
middle 		{{complex date|mid|1999-10}}
{{complex date|middle|1999}} 		mid October 1999
date QS:P,+1999-10-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719748

mid 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719748
 sredina listopada 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-10-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719748

sredina 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719748
 sredina listopada 1999.
sredina 1999.
end
late 		{{complex date|end|1999-11}}
{{complex date|late|1999}} 		late November 1999
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719766

late 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719766
 kraj studenoga 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719766

kraj 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719766
 kraj studenog 1999.
kraj 1999.
firsthalf
1half 		{{complex date|firsthalf|1999-11}}
{{complex date|1half|1999}} 		first half of November 1999
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719687

first half of 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719687
 prva polovina studenoga 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719687

prva polovina 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719687
 prva polovina studenog 1999.
prva polovina 1999.
secondhalf
2half 		{{complex date|secondhalf|1999-11}}
{{complex date|2half|1999}} 		second half of November 1999
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719707

second half of 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719707
 druga polovina studenoga 1999.
date QS:P,+1999-11-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719707

druga polovina 1999
date QS:P,+1999-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719707
 druga polovina studenog 1999.
druga polovina 1999.
1quarter
quarter1 		{{complex date|1quarter|1815-09}}
{{complex date|1quarter|1815}} 		first quarter of September 1815
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40690303

first quarter of 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40690303
 prva četvrtina rujna 1815.
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40690303

prva četvrtina 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40690303
 prva četvrtina rujna 1815.
prva četvrtina 1815.
2quarter
quarter2 		{{complex date|2quarter|1815-09}}
{{complex date|2quarter|1815}} 		second quarter of September 1815
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719649

second quarter of 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719649
 druga četvrtina rujna 1815.
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719649

druga četvrtina 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719649
 druga četvrtina rujna 1815.
druga četvrtina 1815.
3quarter
quarter3 		{{complex date|3quarter|1815-09}}
{{complex date|3quarter|1815}} 		third quarter of September 1815
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719662

third quarter of 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719662
 treća četvrtina rujna 1815.
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719662

treća četvrtina 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719662
 treća četvrtina rujna 1815.
treća četvrtina 1815.
4quarter
quarter4 		{{complex date|4quarter|1815-09}}
{{complex date|4quarter|1815}} 		fourth quarter of September 1815
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719674

fourth quarter of 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719674
 četvrta četvrtina rujna 1815.
date QS:P,+1815-09-00T00:00:00Z/10,P4241,Q40719674

četvrta četvrtina 1815
date QS:P,+1815-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P4241,Q40719674
 četvrta četvrtina rujna 1815.
četvrta četvrtina 1815.
year unknown {{complex date|year unknown}} year unknown
Unknown date
 nepoznata godina
Unknown date
 nepoznata godina

This table is great, I will fill it with correct translations. There is some confusion with grammar cases and some translations. I will need day or two.--Ma▀▄Ga 18:47, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

OK --Jarekt (talk) 19:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Done.--Ma▀▄Ga 15:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Fixed. User:MaGa, please check the table above and Template:Complex_date/examples&uselang=hr to see if there are other issues. Maybe with BC, AD, etc. dates? Ith there are issues please add them to the table above. --Jarekt (talk) 16:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! BC should be [[w:hr:Pr. Kr.|pr. Kr.]], and lipnja 1999. or srpnja 2000. should be lipnja 1999. ili srpnja 2000. (or->ili)--Ma▀▄Ga 17:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
✓ Done User:MaGa, looking at Module:I18n/complex date it seems we also need "ad", "ah" and "bp" options for Croatian. --Jarekt (talk) 11:51, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
ad -> p. Kr., ah -> god. hidžre, bp -> prije današnjice. Change also Datum nepoznat to nepoznat datum. I hope that is all.--Ma▀▄Ga 16:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
P.S. There is two pr. Kr.'s in turn of the year variable. It should be one.--Ma▀▄Ga 16:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
User:MaGa I did another round of corrections. I thought I fixed two pr. Kr.'s in turn of the year variable, but it does not seem to work. I am confused. Change of Datum nepoznat to nepoznat datum would need to be done at translatewiki. Do you think you can correct it there? --Jarekt (talk) 12:43, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I have just corrected it at TW. If you can't do anything about pr. Kr., let it be as is. Thanks for your help!--Ma▀▄Ga 12:56, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The <inputbox> has a new searchfilter parameter. You can add values like searchfilter=insource:foo. It will add that to the user's search query. [130]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
  • Users will be able to choose whether they want to see Wikidata changes in enhanced watchlist/recent changes. Previously, this was disabled for everyone. [131]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 27 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next WMF Language team office hour, an open session to talk about Wikimedia Language projects. The meeting will be on 27 June at 13:00 UTC. [132]

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15:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Votes at Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - May - Vehicles of public transportation/Voting

Done. Sorry about that. Nv8200p (talk) 17:44, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Logical bug in Module:Creator

I appeal to you as a developer of this module. It seems like this module uses wikidata property d:Property:P937 for filling "Work location" field. But in Adolf Hitler case it causes that work location of his paintings was Führerbunker, last of P937 values in Hitler's element. It is obviously incorrect data and needs to be fixed. I think "work location" field should not be filled from wikidata, if WD has more than one P937 value for certain element. MBH (talk) 14:34, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me. I should probably show all the work location from P937. Module:Creator is very much work in progress and I hope I will get to work location at some point. I am working on dates at the moment. In the mean time please use "workloc" field to overwrite P937 based locations. --Jarekt (talk) 14:42, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-27

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Recent changes

  • There was a problem with maps on Wikimedia wikis that used <mapframe> when you clicked on the link to another map service. Open Street Map or Google Maps are examples of other map services. If you had marked a place on the map the marker would not be in the same place on the other map service. It was in the middle of the map. This has now been fixed. [133]

Changes this week

  • Very old and inactive unpublished translations in the Content Translation database will be removed. This is because of technical maintenance. If you have not worked on a translation after 1 January 2016 you will lose it after 6 July. If you want to keep the unfinished translation you need to open it before 6 July with the Content Translation tool. You can continue working on it later. Translations that were started or have been worked on after 1 January 2016 will not be affected.
  • There is no new Mediawiki version this week.
  • EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. It works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/07 issue. [134]

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15:31, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Credits, recognition and hijacking of images

Just posted a bit of a rant on Commons:Village_pump#Using_Wikipedia_to_reference_other_WMF_projects_and_the_dangers_thereof. As you are clued up on this credit stuff, I would be grateful if you could cast an eye over it, to see if you think I have a legitimate concern for WC contributors future recognition and upholding the rights to their images remaining free forever. WC is just the host. It is our responsibility as individual up-loaders to guard our copyright and I foresee problems ahead. P.g.champion (talk) 17:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Template:PD-Polish

Mógłbyś zerknąć, o co chodzi z tym błędem LUA tutaj? Na podglądzie edycji błędu nie ma. Ankry (talk) 17:12, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Ankry nie widze zadnych problemow Lua. Czy ktos zreperowal? --Jarekt (talk) 02:20, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Ja widzę nadal: [135]. Może to kwestia moich polskich ustawień? albo skórki? Ankry (talk) 05:50, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
Wyglada na to, że purge załatwiło sprawę. Jednak jakbyś miał jakiś pomysł odnośnie przyczyn, to warto się temu przyjrzeć, bo może jakać masówka botem byłaby potrzebna. Ankry (talk) 15:34, 9 July 2017 (UTC)36
Ten błąd jest spowodowany przez Template:Poland który używa module:Wikidata label by znaleźć polską nazwę d:Q36. Może Wikidata nie pracowała jak trzeba. --Jarekt (talk) 02:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Ankry, zobacz phabricator:T170039. --Jarekt (talk) 02:55, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-28

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Recent changes

  • There are sometimes links to pages about the same thing on other Wikimedia projects. A Wikipedia article about Berlin can link to the Wikivoyage guide or Wiktionary entry about Berlin. You can now see when that page has a badge. A badge could be the star that shows that an article is a featured article. [136]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 July. It will be on all wikis from 13 July (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Mobile users will be able to edit Wikipedia without JavaScript. This will make it possible to edit the wikis from older mobile phones. This will probably happen on 18 July for most wikis. [137]
  • We will not use Tidy on Wikimedia wikis in the future. It will be replaced by June 2018. It could be earlier. Editors will need to fix pages that could break. You can read the simplified instructions for editors.

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15:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Same photo, two people

Hi Jarek, do you think you can have a look at this? Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 07:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 12:11, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Albania

Can you take a look of file which is a edit-protected. Coat of arms of Albania.svg talk page. (Bes-ART (talk) 11:18, 14 July 2017 (UTC))

Zaginione zdjęcie

Dzień dobry.

Bardzo proszę o pomoc. 14 lipca 2017 wgrałem wykadrowane zdjęcie Maria Andrejczyk i Beata Szydło.JPG ze źródła:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/premierrp/35057801520 (licencja PD)
i zostawiłem do potwierdzenia licencji, a plik nagle dosłownie i całkowicie zniknął.
Już "odnalazła się" historia, skasowany. Czy na pewno jest prawidłowo skasowany, przecież np. cały ten katalog ma tę samą licencję: Category:Beata Szydło in 2017, a takich plików jest dużo więcej.

Dziękuję.

Artur Andrzej (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Artur, zobacz User_talk:Halibutt#Template:Polish_KPRM_files. Ja nic nie wiem na temat plików z kancelarii i nie bylem w stanie znaleźć informacji na temat temat praw autorskich na stronach https://www.flickr.com/people/premierrp/ czy https://www.premier.gov.pl/. Jeśli jest jakiś dowód to pliki z kancelarii są w domenie publicznej to plik przywrócę. --Jarekt (talk) 01:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

KPRM

Re: User_talk:Halibutt#Template:Polish_KPRM_files

Hej, to wydaje mi się dość beznadziejna sprawa - bo to w sumie szara strefa. Patrząc teraz na losy tych zdjęć widzę, że to wszystko zależy od adminów weryfikujących licencje z Flickra: rebe z Falenicy powie tak, cadyk z Otwocka inaczej.

A tak w ogóle, na ile się orientuję, przez pewien czas po wyborach jeden z blogerów robił w KPRM za człowieka od internetów i to on przekonał ich do publikowania zdjęć na "wolnej licencji". Tyle że już tam nie pracuje i nie do końca wiadomo z kim tam rozmawiać. Próbowałem jakiś czas temu (ze dwa lata będą) porozumieć się z nimi w tej sprawie, bo na moje oko w naszym porządku prawnym ani autor, ani właściciel nie ma możliwości wypuszczenia własnego utworu do Domeny Publicznej. Utwór może być "nie-utworem" jako dokument urzędowy, i to pewnie powinien być ten przypadek ({{PD-Polishsymbol}}), ale nie mam pojęcia jak to rozwiązać. Jako wolontariusz pewnie napisałbym do nich z prośbą o wyjaśnienie lub zmianę licencji, ale zwyczajnie nie mam teraz na to czasu a za słabo się znam na prawie autorskim by pilotować tę sprawę. Może @Ankry, Polimerek, and Boston9: mają jakiś pomysł? Halibutt (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-29

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Recent changes

  • "Wikimedia Labs" is now called "Cloud VPS". "Wikimedia Tool Labs" is now called "Wikimedia Toolforge". This is to help clarify the purpose of these services. [138]

Problems

  • On some pages, the Table of Contents is not being shown. It will normally appear if you edit the page again. Investigation is currently ongoing. [139]

Changes this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 July. It will be on all wikis from 20 July (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Architecture committee. The topic this week is: Migrate to HTML5 section ids. [140] The meeting will be on 19 July at 21:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • Page Previews, currently a Beta Feature, will be enabled for logged-out users for all remaining Wikipedias (with the exception of English and German) the week of 24 July. An A/B test will be run on English Wikipedia to collect data before approaching the community for further discussion. [141]

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22:59, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Category:Non-empty category redirects

What's wrong? Is your Bot still sleeping? Thx --Frze > talk 04:26, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Other bots kept up with this category for last 4-5 years so I stopped looking at it. At this point I no longer have a script for this task. --Jarekt (talk) 19:01, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-30

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Recent changes

  • CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. This will make it easier to make templates look good on mobile devices. This now works on mediawiki.org and Wikitech. It will come to more wikis later. [142][143][144]
  • .mw-ui-constructive modifier class is deprecated and has been removed. [145]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 July. It will be on all wikis from 27 July (calendar).
  • It will be possible to restrict who can send you notifications on a wiki. This new feature will accessible in your preferences, in the Notifications tab, on Wednesday, July 26. Please see the documentation. [146]

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 July at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the Wikimedia Foundation July 2017 Metrics & Activities Meeting. The meeting is about how Wikipedia and the Wikimedia movement are perceived and understood by the world. The meeting will be on 27 July at 19:00 (UTC). See the agenda and how to join.

Future changes

  • New Filters for Edit Review, at the moment available as a Beta feature, will be released by default for the Recent Changes in September.

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15:57, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Requests for undeletion File:Pedro solis garcia.jpg

I hereby affirm that I Pedro Solís García , the creator and sole owner of the exclusive copyright of Cuerdas short film and La Bruxa short film [both the work depicted and the media] shown here: File:Pedro solis garcia.jpg These media was tried to be uploaded to Commons by me under my nickname Nmalario and deleted by you and have legal authority in my capacity to release the copyright of that work.

You can find more information about my work in my web site and the links to IMDb, premios Goya and Promofest that I am providing: Cuerdas Oficial Web site La Bruxa Oficial Web Site Cuerdas IMDb La Bruxa IMDb Pedro Solís GArcía IMDb Cuerdas Premios Goya La Bruxa Premios Goya

Cuerdas Promofest La Bruxa Promofest

I agree to publish the above-mentioned content under the following free license: Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International.

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work, even in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that the copyright holder always retains ownership of the copyright as well as the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by the copyright holder.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Pedro Solís García "Copyright holder" and "Director" 07/26/2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmalario (talk • contribs) 08:04, 26 July 2017 (UTC)


Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 11:47, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

phab:T171392

FYI, not sure if you saw it. The combination of {{LangSwitch}} and a lot of {{Label}} runs out of memory. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:16, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes I scanned through it, but I did not have much to add. Thanks for alerting me. --Jarekt (talk) 11:36, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-31

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Some pages show the error Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that uses Wikidata. The developers are working on fixing the problem. You can fix a page by opening it for editing and then saving without changing anything. [147]
  • Wikidata and German Wikipedia could not be edited for an hour on 28 July. You can read why and how we could avoid it in the future in the incident report.

Changes later this week

  • Some wikis already have the larger and brighter OOjs UI edit page buttons. All remaining wikis except Commons will have these from 1 August. [148]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 August. It will be on all wikis from 3 August (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • The default font in the edit window will soon change for some users. Instead of using the browser default it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [149]

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21:45, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - August

Hi! Something is wrong with the current challenge... in the "The challenge will remain open for submissions throughout Mont UTC." and "Photographs must be newly uploaded to Commons during the challenge submission period i.e. X 2017 UTC (but may have been taken earlier)." sentences. Can you fix it? THX, Fauvirt (talk) 22:06, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Fauvirt, I think I fixed it. Can you check? --Jarekt (talk) 23:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Ops, sorry, i was not "on"... but it works, yes! Thank you! :o) Fauvirt (talk) 12:36, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata news

Hello my friend,
We had an excellent conversion together: Here.
The conclusion was to wait for (Allow looking up Entities by external identifiers).
Do you have news ?
Because the problem is rotting my life.
I also fear that you tried to make me take your dream for a reality ;-)
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 13:24, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Liné1, I do not have any news on the subject. I hope it is going to happen but for time being I am adding q-codes to all the templates that rely on Wikidata. I am sorry it is "rotting [your] life". In my experience the progress in Wikidata comes very slowly. --Jarekt (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
The reason why I dislike this is that we duplicate info that is on wikidata (link commons<->wikidata) in wikicommons.
The day that feature arrives, we will suffer to suppress this duplication.
Also, in the meantime, It is difficult to explain: sometime you have to provide the itemId, sometimes not.
So most of the time contributors provide itemId in wikicommons but don't add the wikidata link to commons (worth case scenario).
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 15:48, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
I do a LOT of work with Creator templates lately and I do a lot of work on commons<->wikidata synchronization. Pages missing "commons<-wikidata" link end up in Category:Creator templates with Wikidata link: item missing linkback. Pages missing "commons->wikidata" link can be detected using this query. I also have Category:Creator templates with Wikidata link: mismatching linkback‎ for cases where page on Commons was renamed without updating Wikidata and Category:Creator templates with mismatching linkback‎ for pages that were renamed without updating "linkback" field (if used). It is quite a mess and I hope to create better system of alerting users about the issues, so I do not have to be fixing it as much. --Jarekt (talk) 16:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
Excellent work !!!
I did Category:Pages with biology property incorrect on Wikidata
A bit like your work ;-)
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 20:11, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-32

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

Problems

  • You can get an email when a page on your watchlist was edited. You can choose not to get emails for minor edits. There is a bug that means that you then don't get an email when someone does a normal edit after a minor edit. The developers are working on fixing this. Until it has been fixed you can activate "Email me also for minor edits of pages and files" at the bottom of "User profile" in your preferences if you want to. [152]
  • The thanks button sometimes didn't work for mobile users. This was because of a new bug and has now been fixed. [153]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 August. It will be on all wikis from 10 August (calendar).

Future changes

  • Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [154]
  • Links to sections on Wikipedia don't work well in languages that don't use the Latin script. The URL in the address bar in your browser shows Latin characters like .D0.A1.D1.81.D1.8B.D0.BB.D0.BA.D0.B8 instead of the section heading in the wiki's language. Links to sections in non-Latin scripts will be in the script of that wiki in the future. This will happen in the next few months. [155][156]
  • Wiki pages printed by the web browser "Print" function will have an updated style. This new style will be similar to the when you download a page as PDF. It will be better at showing tables, infoboxes and headings. [157][158]

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21:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-33

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Bureaucrats can now set users as confirmed. Previously only stewards could do this on most wikis. Nothing will change for wikis that have previously decided to let administrators set users as confirmed. [159]

Problems

  • The symbols in the language list that show that an article is good or featured in that language doesn't work. Links to the Commons category in the sidebar doesn't work either. The developers are working on fixing it. [160][161]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 August. It will be on all wikis from 17 August (calendar).

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23:28, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hi Jarek, do you think you could help us out with this? Many thanks! Boston9 (talk) 20:09, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

File:BlueLine ver2.jpg

Hi Jarekt,

is your version or File:BlueLine.jpg more accurate?--תוכנית (talk) 20:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-34

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can now test the new Timeless skin on the test wiki and mediawiki.org. You can turn it on in your preferences. You can report bugs in Phabricator. It will come to more wikis soon. [162][163]
  • Your watchlist can now have the option to unwatch pages. You have to turn this on in your preferences. [164]
  • If a table has several columns you can often choose which column you want to use to sort the table. This has not worked for some columns for readers who have used Firefox or Safari. This has now been fixed. [165]
  • The RelatedArticles extension has shown related pages on Wikivoyages. You will now see the related pages at the end of the article together with an image. Previously the links were in the sidebar. Wikis that want this extension can request it on Phabricator.

Changes later this week

  • Videos will now be played in the WebM format in all browsers. Previously some browsers used Ogg Theora (.ogv). If you use Safari, Internet Explorer or Edge you may see slower playback speed at high resolutions. Instead we will get better quality and smaller file size. You can still upload video as Ogg files. They are automatically converted to WebM. This doesn't affect Ogg audio files. [166]
  • The default font in the edit window will change for some users this week. Instead of using the browser default, it will be monospace. Users can change this in their preferences. This should only change this for some users on Macs and iOS devices. [167]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 August. It will be on all wikis from 24 August (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 August at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 22 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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18:00, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikidata

Hello my friend,
We both work on wikidata arround wikicommons.
But this work I do on Category:Pages with biology property incorrect on Wikidata is killing me!
Do you have a way to set up a bot that:

  • copies item's sitelink-to-wikicommons to item's P373 (Commons category) if P373 is empty and wikicommons starts with Category:?
  • copies item's sitelink-to-wikicommons to item's P935 (Commons gallery) if P935 is empty and wikicommons does not start with Category:?

The last guy I asked did a one time run (So I have to do the new one by hand?)
Also he was reluctant to do a full run, so he limited to P31 (instance of)='taxon' (Q16521). But there are other interesting values like 'monotypic taxon' (Q310890), 'fossil taxon' (Q23038290), 'clade' (Q713623), 'species aggregate' (Q1297859) and 'Wikimedia category' (Q4167836).
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 13:35, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Liné1, On Wikidata we do not do much by bots but by SPARQL queries and QuickStatement tool. For example taxon items where item does not have P373 (Commons category) but it has a sitelink-to-wikicommons that starts with "Category:" can be found by a query I saved here. If you need other queries you can study the SPARQL examples or ask for help. I keep a running journal of queries I found useful at d:User:Jarekt/queries. If you run that query you will get ~700 q-codes / category pairs. You can take that info and convert it to Quick Statements (QS) commands to add them to Wikidata. The best tutorial on QS is here. QS has 2 versions: version one here here and version 2 here. I had some trouble running version 1 so at the moment I only use version 2, but the commands are the same. The QS commands are easily created in a spreadsheet (like Excel) to add P373 to Q75630 you need Q75630 P373 "Necrolestes" command with tabs instead of spaces. and the easiest way to create them is to keep q-codes in one column P373 in the second column and categories in third one. Adding such command to Import commands / version 1 format window should give you something like this. If you lod in and press "Run" you will add it. Does this approach make sense? If something is not clear let me know and I will spell it out in more details. --Jarekt (talk) 01:48, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Creator

Hi Jarekt! We don't need the homacat parameter anymore? --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

If we have Wikidata perameter and it has Commons category (P373) property than we do not. Otherwise we do. --Jarekt (talk) 04:22, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Gotcha. Thanks so much for working on this! C(_) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:25, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. It is a fun project. --Jarekt (talk) 04:34, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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Recent changes

  • Syntax highlighting is now a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. It will come to right-to-left wikis later. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. [168][169]
  • You will now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. You can turn this off or choose to get an email notification in your preferences. You can also turn on to get an email when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. [170]

Problems

  • Some pages show the error Lua error in mw.wikibase.entity.lua at line 34: The entity data must be a table obtained via mw.wikibase.getEntityObject. This problem happens on pages with a Lua module that use Wikidata. This has now been fixed and no new pages will get this problem. You still need to fix pages that were broken before and still show the error message. You can see how on this page. [171]

Changes later this week

  • You can block users from sending you notifications. [172]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 August. It will be on all wikis from 31 August (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • In the future you will have global preferences. This means you could set something in your preferences to work in the same way on all wikis. You will not be forced to use global preferences. The developers are now asking if editors need exceptions. This is where you want to use global settings on almost all wikis, but have some wikis where you want it to work in a different way. If you want this you need to tell the developers now. You can do so on the talk page. [173]
  • New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [174]
  • The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 in September 2017. Wikis can ask on Phabricator to get it early, so they can help find and solve problems now.

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22:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Uploading photos from Pixabay

Is there any automated tool for uploading photos from Pixabay (something like this)?--Ma▀▄Ga 17:41, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Not to my knowledge. --Jarekt (talk) 18:06, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, thanks.--Ma▀▄Ga 13:08, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Moduł Lua dla zabytków

Cześć, na Wikimanii wspominałem, że przydałoby się przebudować szablon {{zabytek nieruchomy}} aby zaciągał dane z Wikidanych. Miałbyś czas pomóc mi z tym? W skrócie chodzi o to, żeby wywołać szablon {{zabytek nieruchomy|Q1083927}} [175] a on zwracał tekst: 

 Ta fotografia przedstawia zabytek wpisany do rejestru zabytków pod numerem A/1658/97 z 15 gru 1997.

Yarl 💭  20:29, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Yarl, Nie wszystko rozumiem. Wyciągnąć "A/1658/97" z wikidata jest łatwo: {{#statements:P3424|from=Q1083927}} da ci "A/1658/97". Wyciągnąć "15 gru 1997" jest trochę trudniej i trzeba by było napisać nowy kod. {{zabytek nieruchomy}} nie jest przygotowany na datę, wiec trzeba by było go przepisać, ale szablon jest używany na wielu stronach. Może napisać nowy szablon {{zabytek nieruchomy2|Q1083927}} albo użyć {{zabytek nieruchomy}} by wiadomo było co podajemy: Q-code czy numer zabytku. Także format "A/1658/97" jest inny niż tyrazniejszych kodów. --Jarekt (talk) 04:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, po kolei:
  • historycznie są dwa szablony zabytków, które operują na dwóch różnych identyfikatorach {{zabytek}} (starszy) oraz {{zabytek nieruchomy}} (nowszy). Chciałbym docelowo uporządkować sytuację i używać kluczy z Wikidanych jako parametr
  • wydaje mi się, że jest możliwe sprawdzić, czy wartość zmiennej zaczyna się od Q. Jeśli tak: czytamy dane z Wikidanych, jeśli nie: zachowuje się tak jak teraz. Nie widzę opcji, żeby zrobić to za pomocą parser functions, więc chyba trzeba skorzystać ze skryptu.
  • piszę o szablonie {{zabytek nieruchomy}}, bo wartość z parametru da się zmapować 1 do 1 z obiektem Wikidanych. Yarl 💭  14:26, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
Masz racje możemy rozpoznać czy to q-code czy nie. Popatrzyłem na File:Dzierzoniow ratusz.JPG który ma {{Zabytek nieruchomy|590617}} i link https://tools.wmflabs.org/heritage/api/api.php?action=search&srcountry=pl&format=html&srid=590617 . Jak zamienię "590617" na "A/1658/97" to link nie działa. Wygląda na to ze identifier Polish cultural heritage register number (P3424) jest taki sam jak identifikator uzywany przez {{Zabytek}} (zobacz Category:Cathedral_in_Katowice), tylko brakuje informacji ze został wpisany w rejestrze województwa śląskiego. --Jarekt (talk) 01:48, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Recent changes

  • The RevisionSlider user interface has changed. You can now select revisions by clicking on the bars. You can move the blue knob past the yellow one and the yellow one will move along, and the other way around. [176][177]

Problems

  • Some users have problems loading very large watchlists. It is working better than earlier but the problem has not been solved. The developers are working on fixing it. Until it has been fixed you can turn on "Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent" in your preferences and see if it helps. [178]

Changes later this week

  • New filters for edit review is a beta feature to improve recent changes pages. It will work on watchlists from 5 September. [179]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 September. It will be on all wikis from 7 September (calendar).

Meetings

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22:14, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Category:Line scan camera

Hi Jarekt,

Thanks for adding category:Line scan camera to the cable car photo. However, I've already created Category:Strip photography, which is similar. Most of the photos in Category:Strip photography were created with film strip photography, which is technically subtly different from a digital line scan camera, but the final result is more or less identical to a line scan camera. Seeing as there are very few true line scan photos on Wikimedia Commons, is it really necessary to make a new category? dllu (t,c) 16:59, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

It is actually not that rare all Push broom scanners are Line scan cameras so do all container size scanners in Category:Cargo scanning X-rays. Also all Category:Photos taken with scanners were using scanner as Line scan camera. I will expand that category. --Jarekt (talk) 17:36, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Good point. However, perhaps we should make a distinction between "Photos taken with a line scan camera" and "Line scan camera". In the latter category, we can put pictures of the cameras themselves. I have two line scan cameras, and I can contribute some photos of them one day. dllu (t,c) 08:03, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
I read more on Strip photography and it sounds very much like my understanding of "Line scan camera". I will skip creation of new categories. --Jarekt (talk) 12:15, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Commons Conference project

Hello

I'm writing you as one of the most active Commons users right now. Since a while now, the idea of a dedicated Commons conference has been floating around. But since the last Wikimania concrete steps have been taken to actually make it happen next year. If you're interested in participation or maybe willing to help organize the first ever Commons Conference, I invite you to check out the project page and leave your comments; or just show your support for the idea, by signing up.

Cheers,

--Touzrimounir (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Creators' DOBs

Hi Jarekt, what's new with [181]? Creators' pages still need hacks to appear properly: [182] [183]. Sealle (talk) 11:30, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

No news at the moment. Lifespan will likely stay with us, but I hope to retire death and birth year fields as they serve the same purpose. --Jarekt (talk) 19:18, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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Recent changes

  • You can get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. You can choose to get these notifications in your preferences. Some wikis already had this option. It is now available on all wikis. [184]
  • The Newsletter extension is now on mediawiki.org. The newsletter extension is for newsletters where you can subscribe by getting a notification when a new issue has been published. It will come to more wikis later. [185]
  • The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. There is now a new high-priority category: tidy-whitespace-bug. This usually affects templates with horizontal lists. You can read more about using Linter and the Tidy whitespace bug. [186]

Problems

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 September. It will be on all wikis from 14 September (calendar).
  • OOjs UI will be updated. This could affect some icons. You can read more about the changes.

Meetings

  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 12 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can use Electron instead. Most PDFs are already created with Electron. Electron will get missing features before 1 October. You can create books but they will not have all planned features until November or December. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
  • New filters for edit review are available now on recent changes as a beta feature. Some of those filters and other features will be deployed as default features in the coming weeks. Users will be able to opt out in their preferences. [188]

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19:15, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Request

Hi Jarek, please have a look here and here at your convenience. New user at pl-Wiki. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 13:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Those are borderline within {{PD-Ukraine}}, so I cleaned them up. --Jarekt (talk) 13:54, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Template loops with Autotranslate

Hello Jarekt, I did, of course, not check them all, but a lot templates using Autotranslate produce now a template loop on their doc pages (edit: more precise, on the doc subpages it works, but not on the template pages where the documentation usually is read — Speravir – 22:51, 12 September 2017 (UTC)), also template {{Autotranslate}} itself. Since this is using Module:Fallback, where you changed something recently, and (at least my notice of) the loop issue is also quite new, I guess it's related. Could you, please, investigate this? BTW: Category Pages with template loops has just now about 20000 entries, a significant amount of these should be caused by Autotranslate. — Speravir – 22:42, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Oh, all the institution and creator templates in the category could also be caused by this: Both {{Institution}} and {{Creator}} use {{Fallback}}. — Speravir – 23:03, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
I noticed this, but I have no idea how that category is assigned. I read that tomorrow there will be a fix to some issue with detecting template loops. I hope that will help me debug it. --Jarekt (talk) 01:40, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
By any chance it already disappears after this fix. We will see. — Speravir – 16:43, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
I noticed your reaction in the Help Desk. So, thank you. — Speravir – 15:49, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Photo issue

Hi Jarek, there might be an issue with the caption of this photo. See here. Are you the author? Do you think you can comment on that on Dreamcacther's talkpage, (of course, if you consider this necessary? Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 10:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! Boston9 (talk) 13:43, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

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Recent changes

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 September. It will be on all wikis from 21 September (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 19 September at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 September at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

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15:31, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Andrzej Duda

Hi Jarek, two different pictures under one name again. Thank you. Boston9 (talk) 19:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I am overriting my own (well, uploaded by me) uploaded file so this is not vandalism. Von Sprat (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Von Sprat it does not matter once you uploaded, leave it alone and use new name for new image. We do not have shortage of file names. --Jarekt (talk) 20:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

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Changes later this week

  • You now get a notification when someone tries to log in to your account and fails. If they try from a device or IP address that have logged in to your account before you will be notified after five failed attempts. For security reasons you will soon get an email by default when someone tries to log in to your account and when someone logs in to your account from a new device or IP address. This can be turned off in your preferences. [195]
  • Users with extremely old browsers (for example Netscape 2–4, released from 1995–1997) which do not support Unicode will no longer be able to edit. They should try to install a new browser. [196]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

Meetings

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
  • You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.

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15:59, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-40

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Recent changes

  • You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it. [197]

Changes later this week

  • If you have turned on "Automatically enable most beta features" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature. [198]
  • Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look. [199]
  • The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October. [200]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

Meetings

  • You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
  • You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes

  • A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature. [201]
  • The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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23:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Note

Your response is requested on the Village pump. Thanks --Fæ (talk) 15:03, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Photo challenge

Hi there. I'm not sure if you are one of the organizers of the photo challenge, but there seems to be a technical glitch. I posted two pictures (one to huts, and one to rusted places) about 12 hours ago and they appeared on the page I added them to. However, they don't appear on the main photo challenge page. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:17, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Probably purging the page will solve the problem. Or waiting. --Jarekt (talk) 03:04, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

File:Bradford FC archive images 006.jpg

Hi Jarekt. Please would you kindly correct the above file page title to "Barnsley FC archive images 006.jpg"? An embarrassing error on my part. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 12:57, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 13:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

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Problems

  • You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models. [204]

Changes later this week

  • The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week. [205]
  • If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).

Meetings

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14:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Aerial pictures from a drone

Jarek, a quick question to you: for the first time in my life I will be uploading a drone pic. The OTRS will be provided by the company which leased it/paid for this service. But who is the author of a drone photo? Shall I ask who operated the drone as well? Or simply state the company, or "an anonymous photographer hired by...." Many thanks for you support! Boston9 (talk) 04:54, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

The OTRS permission is from the "creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright" so I think you can let the company decide who that is, but either way will work. I do not think drone vs. earth-bound photography makes any difference here. --Jarekt (talk) 12:01, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! Boston9 (talk) 20:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Is it lege artis?

This scan. Thanks. Boston9 (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 18:30, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

OTRS issue

You might want to take a peek at this discussion:


If I am reading correctly, it appears you created this guide. As an aside, I've been away from permissions work for a while and want to return to it so this is good timing. I'm preparing some discussions of best practices and this will be a good starting point.

On an unrelated topic is that you in the Seneca rocks photo? I've heard of the place but never been there. I have been to Joshua Tree but don't remember that belay. I did some climbing many years ago mostly in the gunks.--Sphilbrick (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2017 (UTC)


Sphilbrick, I replied to the inquiry. Thanks for letting me know. Any addition or correction to steps in that table would be appriciated. Yes it is me on Seneca Rocks, it is a great place and not too far from Northern Virginia where I live. Most of Seneca do not look like that, but this one special place makes you feel like you are on some desert tower or something, like this spot. --Jarekt (talk) 22:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-42

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Recent changes

  • When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's format configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it. [206][207]
  • The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.

Problems

  • There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis. [208]
  • Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this. [209]
  • Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed. [210]

Changes later this week

  • Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP. [211]
  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).

Meetings

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15:31, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Information about past removal of {{Location}} attributes

I noticed in the Great {{Location}} Thread over on COM:VP that you mentioned “cleaning up unused attributes parameters from {{Location}} templates”. I'm waiting for permission to run a bot that would add source attributes to over a million {{Location}} templates. Are you able to refer me to a description of the previous cleaning process so I can check that I'm not adding attributes that ought not to be added? --bjh21 (talk) 11:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

The discussion can be found at [[212]], but the idea of the fight was over the fact that attributes parameter of {{Location}} template has very specific fields listed here and they are passed in the URL to GeoHack tool. Attributes with information outside those definitions are not used and were breaking some tools scraping the coordinates to some database. So there was a call to help out with cleaning them up. After some discussion I had my bot remove type:landmarkfrom the attribution parameter which was no longer used. I was than attacked by people using it to tag images as "landscapes". --Jarekt (talk) 12:20, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. That's very helpful. --bjh21 (talk) 13:32, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Kwestia praw autorskich

Zwracam się z prośbą o pomoc w związku z Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Aight 2009. Mianowicie do usunięcia zwrócono zdjęcia opublikowane przed 1994, które udostępniłem w commons. Jeśli mógłbyś jakoś zareagować w związku z tym tematem będę wdzięczny. Aight 2009 (talk) 19:12, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

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wikidata

Hello my friend,
You perhaps know that I added in {{VN}} a wikidata detector (See this cat for more details.
This weekend my detector detected a lot of problems.
They have all the same reason: a duplication of item.
'Q6319539' and 'Category:Taurotragus' (Q41501954) are an example.
I think that this duplication have been created by a bot.
Do you have time to investigate this problem ?
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 11:19, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Liné1, I agree that d:Q6319539 and d:Q41501954 were duplicates and I merged them. I looked at Category:Pages with biology property incorrect on Wikidata but could not find other duplicates. If there were a lot of duplicates created at the same time by the same person, than we should make him aware of the issue. --Jarekt (talk) 11:40, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I was a bit fast ;-)
In fact {{VN}} complains when wikidata items have no english label (sortkey F).
English labels are important, for the default display + when I set the english label, wikidata often complains about the label being used by another items (which is in 95% cases a duplicate) ;-)
What I found out: Dexbot created the duplicated item (Q41502875), then it attached a enlink.
I think that the issue is that Q6319539 never has an enlink.
Cheers Liné1 (talk) 12:11, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I have the same need for English labels with creator templates, end even set up a process to detect it. See here. --Jarekt (talk) 12:32, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Dębica

Hi, I think there is something wrong with this work. The pics were uploaded from Internet, please see for instance this, and this. Thanks. Boston9 (talk) 14:38, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Structured Commons focus group!

Hello! Thank you very much for signing up to the community focus group for Structured Commons :-)

How to organize ourselves?

This focus group is new and experimental, and I welcome your tips and thoughts on how we can organize this in the most convenient and productive way. For now, I have posted a few separate topics on the focus group's talk page. Please add your questions there too! If we all add that page to our watchlist, that's probably a good way to stay up to date with current discussions. Steinsplitter has also initiated a brand new IRC channel specifically for Structured Commons: wikimedia-commons-sd (webchat) which we invite you to join. Please let me know if you have other ideas on how to work together.

Current updates

Warmly, your community liaison, SandraF (WMF) (talk)

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Structured Commons newsletter, October 25, 2017

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Presentations / Press / Events
Audience at Structured Commons design discussion, Wikimania 2017
Team updates
The Structured Commons team at Wikimania 2017

Two new people have been hired for the Structured Data on Commons team. We are now complete! :-)

  • Ramsey Isler is the new Product Manager of the Multimedia team.
  • Pamela Drouin was hired as User Interface Designer. She works at the Multimedia team as well, and her work will focus on the Structured Commons project.
Partners and allies
  • We are still welcoming (more) staff from GLAMs (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) to become part of our long-term focus group (phabricator task T174134). You will be kept in the loop of the project, and receive regular small surveys and requests for feedback. Get in touch with Sandra if you're interested - your input in helping to shape this project is highly valued!
Research

Design research is ongoing.

  • Jonathan Morgan and Niharika Ved have held interviews with various GLAM staff about their batch upload workflows and will finish and report on these in this quarter. (phabricator task T159495)
  • At this moment, there is also an online survey for GLAM staff, Wikimedians in Residence, and GLAM volunteers who upload media collections to Wikimedia Commons. The results will be used to understand how we can improve this experience. (phabricator task T175188)
  • Upcoming: interviews with Wikimedia volunteers who curate media on Commons (including tool developers), talking about activities and workflows. (phabricator task T175185)
Development

In Autumn 2017, the Structured Commons development team works on the following major tasks (see also the quarterly goals for the team):

  • Getting Multi-Content Revisions sufficiently ready, so that the Multimedia and Search Platform teams can start using it to test and prototype things.
  • Determine metrics and metrics baseline for Commons (phabricator task T174519).
  • The multimedia team at WMF is gaining expertise in Wikibase, and unblocking further development for Structured Commons, by completing the MediaInfo extension for Wikibase.
Stay up to date!

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Stanisław Masłowski.jpg

Proszę o zmianę nazwy albo o usunięcie z repozytorium Wikimedia Commons - pliku "file:Stanisław Masłowski.jpg"

Plik ten jest kopią obrazu przypisywanego Stanisławowi Masłowskiemu (1853-1926). Został on skopiowany do Wikimedia Commons z sieci, gdzie występuje pod następującymi adresami: 1) http://www.sda.pl/stanislaw-maslowski-portret-na-tle-pejzazu-1920-r,13073,pl.html i 2) http://www.sda.pl/varia-13,12541&strona=10,pl.html (jest tam zdjęcie-wglądówka pod pozycją 27) Przy okazji kopiowania usunięto tag "ArtInfo" znajdujący się na reprodukcji u dołu po prawej.

Tak się (przypadkowo) składa, że jestem wnukiem tego artysty. Zapewne to dziwne, jednak prawdziwe - bo: Stanisław - ur. 1853, jego syn Maciej - ur. 1901 (zob. w Wikipedii artykuł: "Maciej Masłowski (historyk)", a niżej podpisany jedrzej1224 - Andrzej - jego wnuk ur. 1937 udziela się w Wiki. Zamiast "spoczywać w pokoju", nie używa okularów ani aparatu słuchowego i miesza w Wikimedii i Wikipedii.

Jestem w posiadaniu (bo jakby inaczej?) książki mego ojca Macieja - historyka sztuki o jego ojcu pt. "Stanisław Masłowski - Materiały do życiorysu i twórczości", Wrocław 1957, Wyd. "Ossolineum". Jest to szczegółowe i najbardziej wyczerpujące źródło informacji o życiu i twórczości tego artysty. Autor nie wymienia tam jakiegokolwiek autoportretu Stanisława Masłowskiego. Również w rozmowach w rodzinie nigdy nie wspominał o żadnym autoportrecie. Najwidoczniej ów artysta nie portretował siebie. Gdyby w przypadku wymienionego wyżej pliku chodziło istotnie o jego autorportret - byłoby to odkrycie naukowe dużej miary. Ale - tu pojawiają się pytania:

1) Czy były robione do niego ekspertyzy kiedy i przez kogo?

2) Na jakiej podstawie i kto zinterpretował go jako "autoportret"? Ów "autoportret" miał być jakoby namalowany "na tle Sadu Żoliborskiego w 1920 r." Tymczasem osiedle pod nazwą "Sady Żoliborskie" zostało zaprojektowane przez arch. Halinę Skibniewską w latach 1960-ych i w 1920 roku nie istniało.

Ponieważ obraz występował na aukcji w Sopockim Domu Aukcyjnym - wysłałem tam e-mail (Adresat: sopot@sda.pl; Temat: ZAPYTANIE Data: 2017-10-18 19:24) - zadając powyższe pytania. Jednak do dzisiaj nie otrzymałem jakiejkolwiek odpowiedzi, co zmusza do zastanowienia.

Wiem z opowiadań mego ojca Macieja, że Stanisławowi Masłowskiemu (zm.1926) zdarzało się trafiać na obrazy ze sfałszowaną swoją sygnaturą w antykwariatach w Warszawie (zwłaszcza przy ul. Świętokrzyskiej i Mazowieckiej) i że w takich sytuacjach darł je bez zastanowienia - do czego miał pełne prawo. Z czym mamy do czynienia obecnie - trudno przesądzać. Jednak autorstwo i zaprojektowany nie wiadomo przez kogo tytuł pracy zgłoszonej na licytację w Sopockim Domu Aukcyjnym są wątpliwe i może ona być falsyfikatem.

Zamieszczenie jej w zbiorach Wikimedia Commons i udostępnienie w artykułach Wikimedii (nie tylko w języku polskim) - jako rzekomego "autoportretu" może - w tej sytuacji - prowadzić do wprowadzenia czytelników w błąd. Należy dodać, że w zbiorach Wikimedii jest wiarygodny wizerunek art.-malarza Stanisława Masłowskiego (1853-1926), który zeskanowałem z wyżej wymienionej pracy Macieja Masłowskiego: "Stanisław Masłowski - Materiały do życiorysu i twórczości", Wrocław 1957, Wyd. "Ossolineum" (wkładka kredowa pomiędzy stronami 240 i 241) i załadowałem do Wikimedii - jako: File:Stanisław Masłowski (1853-1926) photo portrait of 1925 copy of book.jpg (Stanisław Masłowski, w Zalesiu pod Warszawą, 1925).

W opisanej sytuacji usunięcie pliku "Stanisław Masłowski.jpg" ze zbioru Wikimedia Commons albo zmiana jego nazwy i przypisanie innemu autorowi (Stanisławów Masłowskich, którzy parali się malarstwem mogło być wielu) - jest więc w pełni uzasadnione - tym bardziej, że aktualnie wyświetla się on - mimo swej wątpliwej proweniencji - w repozytoriach Wikimedii przy wszelkich plikach zawierajacych reprodukcje prac mego dziadka.

Z poważaniem, wyrazami sympatii i z podziękowaniem za zainteresowanie się twórczością Stanisława Masłowskiego.

Andrzej Masłowski - jedrzej1224 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedrzej1224 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Panie Andrzeju, plik znalazłem na Stronie aukcyjnej artinfo.pl, gdzie opis twierdzi ze to autoportret Stanisława Masłowskiego (1853-1926). Obraz jest także w tym samym stylu jak inne obrazy w Category:Stanisław Masłowski. Jak widzę są trzy możliwości:
  • Jest to fałszerstwo
  • Jest to obraz pędzla Stanisława Masłowskiego, ale nie autoportret. Dom aukcyjny albo poprzedni właściciel zrobili z tego autoportret by go lepiej sprzedać.
  • Jest to nowo znaleziony Autoportret Stanisława Masłowskiego, który wisiał u kogoś w domu przez ostatnie 80 lat.
Ja nie wiem która z tych możliwości jest prawda. Napisałem o tym w file:Stanisław Masłowski.jpg, proszę popraw jeśli coś jest nie tak. Także usunąłem ten plik ze innych stron Wikipedii. Dziękuje za poprawki. --Jarekt (talk) 01:54, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


Dziękuję za szybkie ustosunkowanie się do moich uwag.

Cieszę się, że nasze stanowiska są zbieżne. Wynika stąd, że "File:Stanisław Masłowski.jpg" nie powinien występować w Wikimedii pod tą nazwą i również nie powinien pojawiać się w kategorii "Category: Stanisław Masłowski". Można by mu nadać nazwę np.: "File:Picture of unknown artist", w żadnym przypadku nie kojarząc go z wyżej wmienionym imieniem i nazwiskiem.

Obecnie nie widać możliwości sprawdzenia, z którym - z wymienionych trzech - przypadków mamy do czynienia. Można zająć jedynie stanowisko, które podzielam: "nie wiem która z tych możliwości jest prawda". Sopocki Dom Aukcyjny, który umieścił w sieci skopiowaną reprodukcję obrazu pod adresem "http://www.artinfo.pl/aukcje/stanislaw-maslowski/autoportret-artysty-na-tle-sadu-zoliborskiego-1920-r" - nadal nie reaguje na zapytania skierowane do niego drogą e-mailową. To dodatkowo pogłębia wątpliwości. Może zawarte w e-mailu pytania są dla niego kłopotliwe, może coś ukrywa?


Ponadto nie ma potrzeby powiększać zasobów Wikimedii dotyczących Stanisława Masłowskiego (1853-1926) o niesprawdzone pliki pochodzące z nierzetelnych źródeł w sytuacji, kiedy zasoby zweryfikowane są wystraczająco obfite (w czym zresztą mam swój udział). Umieszczając pliki w Wikimedii - korzystałem głównie z nie budzących wątpliwości, zweryfikowanych kolekcji Muzeum Narodowego w Warszawie i Muzeum Narodowego w Krakowie, oczywiście za ich zgodą (niekiedy stawiały warunek podania nazwiska fotografa, gdy jest znane). Poza tym sprawdzałem, czy dana praca artysty jest wymieniana w źródłowej publikacji mego Ojca Macieja Masłowskiego: "Stanisław Masłowski - Materiały do życiorysu i twórczości", Wrocław 1957, Wyd. "Ossolineum". W pojedynczych przypadkach umieściłem także pliki reprodukowanych przez siebie prac Stanisława Masłowskiego, znajdujacych się w naszej kolekcji rodzinnej (oczywiście wymienionych również we wspomnianej publikacji naukowej).


O tym jak wiele wątpliwości należy wyjaśnić ustalając autorstwo i badając sygnaturę danego dzieła plastycznego świadczy fakt, że mój ojciec (syn artysty) w cytowanej wyżej pracy - w licznych przypadkach poprawia, albo kwestionuje datowanie obrazów na sygnaturach - wiedział bowiem z własnej obserwacji - jako syn, że artysta często sygnował obraz lub rysunek - przekazując obraz nabywcy, albo wręczając go w prezencie swemu znajomemu lub krewnemu wiele lat później po namalowaniu i stawiał bieżącą datę, a nie datę jego powstania. Stąd w niektórych przypadkach należało datę powstania obrazu przesunąć o wiele lat wstecz w stosunku do umieszczonej na sygnaturze. To tylko przykład - jednej z licznych trudności - na jakie natrafia rzetelny historyk sztuki w badaniach nad spuścizną tego, lub jakiegokolwiek innego artysty. Polecam uważną lekturę artykułu "Stanisław Masłowski" - wraz z przypisami (jest on oparty głównie na haśle w Polskim Słowniku Biograficznym).


Jestem świadomy, że zmianić wadliwą nazwę pliku, albo usunąć go może tylko administrator. Nie mam takich uprawnień przynajmniej na dzien dzisiejszy.

Dołączam wyrazy poważania i sympatii.

Andrzej Masłowski - jedrzej1224 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jedrzej1224 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Zmieniłem nazwę pliku na File:Stanisław Masłowski (?) - Autoportret (?).jpg. Nasze podejście na Commons nie jest byciem wyrocznią prawdy, a raczej katalogiem informacji które można znaleźć w źródłach. Zwłaszcza jeśli te źródła są sprzeczne, my mamy stronę gdzie można znaleźć rożne opinie na dany temat. Na przykład, następnym razem jak ten obraz będzie na sprzedasz pierwszą stroną którą potencjalny kupiec znajdzie na jego temat będzie strona z dużym ostrzeżeniem na temat niepewnych początków tego obrazu. To może być coś co może nawet zainteresować teraźniejszych właścicieli. Dlatego nie mam nic przeciwko ignorowania tego obrazu w jakimkolwiek artykule na temat artysty, ale sadzę ze plik powinien zostać, jako miejsce gdzie można znaleźć co my w tej chwili wiemy na jego temat. Także jeśli skasujemy ten plik to z rok czy dwa ktoś go znowu doda z opisem wziętym z jedynych źródeł na ten temat.--Jarekt (talk) 23:43, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

/* Wikidata */ modified book template to push metadata?!?

Hi. Just blue skying ... how feasible is it for the book template to be adapted to push edition metadata to wikidata? I know that we would have to have creator templates in place, and look at publisher detail for matches, outside of that what would be the issues? Is this something that needs to align with the structured data, or has a play with structured data? My asking is that for "books" they are editions, and their structured data will be somewhat different from those using information template.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:45, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

I assume that most book data would live on Wikidata, and only file or edition specific details would be on Structured data. A little bit like with Artworks, two different digitization of the same artwork would share an item on Wikidata, but digitization details would live on Commons. We also might have scans of books, or paintings not notable enough for Wikidata, and the full data would live on Commons. All those "details" have to be still hashed out, so join the Structured data discussion forums so use cases you ere interested in are being covered. I imagine that Wikidata will have q-codes and Commons will have m-codes (or some other letter), which would be very similar in many ways, except that data stored in q-codes would be visible to other projects (like Wikisource) and data stored in m-codes will not be. I do not know if that would be a final implementation but that is one possible solution. --Jarekt (talk) 04:02, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Okay, they are significantly different. I was approaching this as a path for pushing the (book) edition data through to Wikidata. We have a triangle of edition information with Commons/Wikidata/Wikisource(s) and no ready means to get that migrated into Wikidata. Where we have a well-completed book template here, I thought that it would make sense to have the means to push it into Wikidata. Further if the data is not in the template, then in future times the linking may allow the display of Wikidata fields in empty fields.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:41, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

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Help with a fix

Hi Jarekt. I'm here to ask for help in correcting the code of Module:Authority control. The property P2558 is giving an error message in categories like: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Jean_L%C3%A9on_Palli%C3%A8re I guess its a problem with the restrictions of value in the module, but since i'm not proficient with the code (and don't have the correct permissions to edit), i'm asking if you could check it out. Also i wanted to ask you why the property doesn't show in the template of {{Creator:Jean Léon Pallière}} and it does in the Authority control template. Regards and thanks.--Zeroth (talk) 19:50, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Fixed About some identifiers showing and not showing in different templates. Authority control displayed inside Creator templates usually show only 5-6 most relevant identifiers (based on "importance" and language), otherwise if we show 45 of them it will look very crowded {{Authority control}} does not have those restrictions. --Jarekt (talk) 20:06, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks!. About the importance, could you tell me how it's calculated?. I'm asking you because this identifier is probably very important for the uruguayan authors but not so important for non-uruguayans.--Zeroth (talk) 20:56, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
If you look at conf, there is lang field. The algorithm first looks for identifiers with empty langfield, than at identifiers with matching language and finally at identifiers with non matching language. If we need 5 identifiers than first 5 existing identifiers in that order are pulled. I do not remember if that is a bug or intentional but autores.uy has wrong language code so it is always in the last group. --Jarekt (talk) 02:22, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I see. That must be an error. There is no such 'uy' language. Could you change it with the right one? ("es"), please?.--Zeroth (talk) 17:10, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Fixed --Jarekt (talk) 17:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Creator:Johannes Kalliauer

Maybe you can explain the use of of the creator-template.

I don't understand, why did you add | type = commons user?

{{Creator
 | Name = [[User:JoKalliauer|Johannes Kalliauer]]
 | Nationality = AT
 | Gender = male
 | Occupation = civil engineer/scientist/student/university teacher/researcher/academician/educator/wikipedian/wikimedian/painter
 | Description =
 | Type = Commons user/
 | Sortkey = Kalliauer, Johannes
 | Alternative names = JoKalliauer
 | Birthdate =
 | Birthloc = Vienna (Austria)
 | Deathdate =
 | Deathloc =

 | Workperiod = from 2017
date QS:P,+2017-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P580,+2017-00-00T00:00:00Z/9

 | Workloc = Vienna (Austria)
 | Image =
 | Homecat = Wikipedians in the Czech Republic
 | Linkback = Creator:Johannes Kalliauer
 | Wikidata =
 | type = commons user
 | Option =
 }}

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 11:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

| type = commons user makes the template disappear from most maintenance categories. I knew you did not have "type" set because this template was showing up in them, but I did not notice it was mistyped. --Jarekt (talk) 11:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for correcting and explaining.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 11:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Checkmark This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment.  — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 11:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

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18:45, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Zdjęcia z NAC a domena publiczna

Cześć! Być może ucieszy cię informacja, że jako Wikimedia Polska zaczynamy współpracę z Narodowym Archiwum Cyfrowym. Mam jednak pewną wątpliwość licencyjną. Zacząłem testowo ładować pliki, jako pierwszy rzut będziemy ładować zdjęcia od Narcyza Witczaka-Witaczyńskiego. Widzę, że {{PD-old-auto}} jako jedyny szablon licencji jest niezalecany, ale nie za bardzo wiem jaki jeszcze można wstawić. Masz może pomysł? Yarl 💭  22:20, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Yarl, Pliki na Commons maja być w PD zarówno w US jak i w kraju gdzie dana grafika czy jakaś inna praca powstała. Taka jest teoria, ale trudno czasami to zrobić w praktyce. Kiedyś próbowałem komuś pomoc znaleźć dlaczego dzieła Leonarda Da Vinci są w PD w Stanach, i mimo wielu starań dotąd nie wiem i Mona Lisa nie ma szablonu na temat licencji w US. Dlatego moje podejście jest ze dla plików z Polski konieczna jest licencja ważna w Polsce bądź w Europie a co do licencji ważnej w Stanach to jak znam to dodam (najczęściej {{PD-1923}} lub PD-Polish z PD-1996) ale jak nie znam (jak w przypadku Mona Lisy) to się tym zbytnio nie martwię.
Cieszę się z współpracy z Narodowym Archiwum Cyfrowym. Będę podróżować przez następny tydzień, ale popatrzę na to jak wrócę. --Jarekt (talk) 05:07, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
OK, dzięki! Yarl 💭  14:52, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Nowa wersja pliku

Cześć! Zrobiłem nieco bałagan, gdyż chciałem przesłać wykadrowaną wersję pliku https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xiaomi_Mi5.jpg, ale nie wiedziałem, że zastąpi to oryginał, a nie wyśle się obok ze zmienioną nazwą, bo nie znałem jeszcze tego mechanizmu. Mógłbyś usunąć to z historii (zbędny bałagan) i powiedzieć jak mogę dodać ten plik, żeby był obok a nie zastępował ten oryginalny plik? Ethize (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

✓ Zrobione--Jarekt (talk) 05:32, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

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  • The diff you see when you compare two different versions of a page has changed on MediaWiki.org and the test wiki. This is to make it easier to find a text change in a moved paragraph. It will hopefully soon come to more wikis. You can report bugs in Phabricator. [220]
  • A new user group on Commons will be able to upload MP3 files. The plan is to have this user group from 17 November. [221]
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19:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Help needed

What is wrong with this template?--Ma▀▄Ga 09:24, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

User:MaGa, the problem is that Template:Created with/hr does not exist. You would probably have to create it. --Jarekt (talk) 05:38, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
There is a saying in Croatian: Slijep pored zdravih očiju. Translated in English: Blind despite wholesome eyes. As always, thanks a lot.--Ma▀▄Ga 12:13, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Please delete original uploads from these files

Hi Jarekt. Please could you kindly delete the original uploads from the following files (keeping the second upload in each case).

This is because I initially forgot to conceal the vehicle registration numbers (all the second uploads are OK). Thank you. Storye book (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Storye book, is it really necessary? I know Google Street View does it, but I did not think we do it on Commons. I have never done it with my images like this one. --Jarekt (talk) 19:03, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
In this case, I had special permission to photograph the fine carving on the building, but the military have been in control of the site since 1913. And most of the vehicles are theirs. They are particularly sensitive about security right now - so I was very lucky to get that permission; it took a while. Like you, I have not bothered to conceal registration plates in any of my other uploads. However this particular case is a sensitive issue. Also I would like to be allowed back in to photograph the fourth statue on the roof (I only did three, oops). My fault for not thinking about this before I uploaded. Storye book (talk) 20:37, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 20:44, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 09:01, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Help

Please help me. I am the gteat grand daughter of "billy b. Van" the family was split for too many reasons and my great grandfathers legacy was brushed over in lieu of petty fights about who knows what. I collect what i can but any help will be so appriciated. My grandmother his daughter was bonnie harding, father jeff harding, brother to pete harding and then me. Im it. My profession strangely enough is in theatre. I just dont know where to start. My email is jodannaharding78@gmail.com Please contact me. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 2607:FB90:4923:673E:ACC4:2E98:BE2E:B93B (talk) 08:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

I would best advise you tự go to the helpdesk. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:27, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Batch uploading

Do you still do scripts for batch uploads? There's a huge backlog and some requests date back to 2010 (and I think earlier) so I wouldn't want to ask you to prioritizse something, however if possible I would ask if you would script for 300 images of Vietnamese cash 💰 coins illustrated by Eduardo Toda y Güell. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:29, 17 November 2017 (UTC) Please see Commons:Batch uploading/Illustrations of Vietnamese cash coins from Ed Toda's "Annam and its minor currency".. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 09:30, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

I do not do much scripts for batch uploads those days. Last mass upload I did was with regular UploadWizard anybody can use. --Jarekt (talk) 12:35, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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  • If you use the Chrome web browser on Android you can see a download icon on the mobile website. You can download a formatted PDF. It will work in other mobile browsers in the future. [224]
  • The abuse filter now has a function called get_matches. You can use it to store matches from regular expressions – one of each capturing group. You can read more in Phabricator.

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  • Language converter syntax will no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com ; zh-hk: http://bar.com ; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian. This will happen next week. [228][229]

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20:30, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Template:Wikidata person

Why does Category:Johanna_Winblad and Category:Anton Julius Winblad have their occupations in red? Is it indicating an error or some sort with the information in Wikidata or is it looking for a category with the same name, even though there is no link? Let me know on my talk page or ping me please, thanks. RAN (talk) 18:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

RAN, The red indicates that the occupation is not supported by the {{Occupation}} template and will not be translated into other languages. See for example here. --Jarekt (talk) 04:30, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Anything I can do to help with the project that will fill in info for the redlinks? Do the red link need Wikipedia entries? RAN (talk) 17:34, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
RAN, The process of adding to {{Occupation}} is to add new words to Template:Occupation/en and Template:Occupation/list and hope that others will update the lists in other languages. The ideas of what terms to add can be found in Category:Pages using Occupation template with incorrect parameters. --Jarekt (talk) 03:45, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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  • Almost 170 wikis with no high-priority errors in Linter categories will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. A few larger wikis such as German and Italian Wikipedia will also make this switch. It will happen on 5 December. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Tidy will be removed in the middle of 2018. [237][238]

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17:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Szablon Wikidata person

Cześć! Zauważyłem, że stworzony przez Ciebie (moim zdaniem niezwykle fajny) szablon Wikidata person jest obecnie używany przy wielu różnych galeriach biograficznych, już nie tylko na stronach malarzy czy fotografów, co jak rozumiem było pierwotną intencją przy tworzeniu przestrzeni nazw Creator. I stąd moje pytanie: czy skoro Twój szablon (jeśli dobrze go rozumiem) po prostu na bieżąco, automatycznie zasysa dane z Wikidanych, czyli jego użycie nie zwiększa liczby stron do konserwacji itd. (tak jak było ze stronami Creator:), to czy dopuszczasz takie szerokie używanie go? Nie ukrywam, że ja bym się z tego ucieszył, bo moim zdaniem jest to dużo fajniejszy i lepszy sposób wiązania kategorii Commons z WD niż takie bardzo "suche" szablony typu sama kontrola autorytatywna. Pozdrawiam! Powerek38 (talk) 08:09, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Ten szablon jest bardzo prosty. Napisalem go bym mogl latwo stworzyc nowe kategorie ala osob. Nie mam nic przeciwko szerokiego uzytku tego szablonu. --Jarekt (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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17:57, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Request

Can you process this request?--Ma▀▄Ga 19:09, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

✓ Done --Jarekt (talk) 19:21, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again.--Ma▀▄Ga 20:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

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Tracking missing artwork data and LUA plans

Hi Jarek, how are you doing? Still working on the Wikidata/Commons things? I updated the artwork template to add tracker categories like Category:Artworks with Wikidata item without creator. This will help making the data on Wikidata more complete. {{Creator}} is all LUA these days, what are your plans regarding {{Institution}} and {{Artwork}}? Would be great to have these switched to LUA too. Would also make it easier to just add all the tracker categories like you did for the creator templates. Multichill (talk) 14:00, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

I was hoping to do another round of improvements to {{Creator}}, but need a big block of time to debug as some of my "improvements" are not working right. Than I would like to tackle the other 2 templates, unless someone beats me to it. --Jarekt (talk) 03:44, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Hope you find a big block of free time soon! ;-)
I'll just continue with the bulk work. That has to be done anyway. Multichill (talk) 21:48, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

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  • When you import a page from another wiki the usernames of the users who edited the article on the wiki you imported it from are shown in the article history. This should link to the users on the original wiki. A script to fix this caused problems for Wikidata and German Wikipedia. It also created a large number of SUL accounts on wikis where editors had never edited. [245]
  • Some bot owners got email about their bots logging in from a new computer. If this is from one or a couple of wikis, you can turn these messages off in your preferences on those wikis until the problem has been solved. If not, you can report more about the problem in Phabricator.

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15:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Materials for Commons?

Can this pictures be uploaded on Commons regarding copyright?--Ma▀▄Ga 13:44, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

If they can be uploaded, can it be done and cropped with someone's bot?--Ma▀▄Ga 13:45, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

The artwork is by "Leopold Gedö" (1887-1952)‏ [246] so it will be out of copyright in 5 years. It was published in 1926 so no {{PD-1923}}. --Jarekt (talk) 20:55, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Merry Christmas!--Ma▀▄Ga 06:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Archdeacon Barakatullah

Can i upload this image. Is this copyright?---- see Barkatullah (archdeacon)--Bukhari Talk 17:08, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

I doubt it. I assume the photograph was taken in 1950's or 1960's, so the photographer is not dead for more than 70 years. Maybe some country of origin specific laws would apply (?) --Jarekt (talk) 17:20, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
Ok :( --Bukhari Talk 17:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Additional licence?

File:Njemačka ulica i Vinkovačka Gimnazija.jpg

You must also include a United States public domain tag to indicate why this work is in the public domain in the United States. What should be propriate for this?--Ma▀▄Ga 09:57, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I would also like to transfer three pictures from hr.wp (first, second and third). What licence would be correct?--Ma▀▄Ga 15:51, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

User:MaGa iwas often confused about what to do with that requirement especially for images like Mona Lisa etc. We know it is in PD in US but we have no license that covers that case. Commons:Hirtle chart divides works into Published and unpublished but what does itmean in case of old paintings. Luckily in case of postcards printed before 1923 the case is easier: just use {{PD-1923}} license or it's variants like {{PD-anon-1923}}. --Jarekt (talk) 03:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
So, if I understood you: licence of first picure is OK? Can you check other three pictures (first, second and third), please?--Ma▀▄Ga 10:41, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

PD-1923 license

Hello Jarekt, regarding this, I was on the (apparently wrong) belief that that tag applied to all copyrights expired before 1923. Do you know what would be the template for a PD-1923 work published by the Brazilian government back in 1824? I couldn't find it easily.-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:44, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The template that applied to all copyrights expired before 1923 is {{PD-1923}} with the text in template:PD-1923-text. I reverted the edits to template:PD-old-text, which is not related. For Brazilian governement images from 1824 images I would use Template:PD-BrazilGov + {{PD-1923}}. Or just {{PD-old-100-1923}}. --Jarekt (talk) 12:56, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
Thanks!! {{PD-old-100-1923}} is really what I was looking for, in that case. I apologize for messing up with that license, I'm glad you noticed that so quickly. :) -- Darwin Ahoy! 13:05, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

On that case, I believe {{PD-BrazilGov}} probably applies. I know I have questions about that PD-1923 tag, but for now I can't recall any of them. Eventually I'll came here again for advice when I face some dubious situation. Thanks for the revert, BTW.-- Darwin Ahoy! 12:51, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi again Jarekt. I'm facing a case where the license should be {{PD-old-90-1923}}, as the author is not stated, but it is irrelevant if the work is anonymous or not, and it was published in 1920. However, that license was deleted in 2015 for being redundant with {{PD-old-auto-1923}} - something which, as you said, is not true, as {{PD-old-auto-1923}} is not to be used in those situations. I restored the license and its corresponding category PD-old-90-1923, but it has a warning there saying that {{PD-old-auto-1923}} should be used instead, in order to automatically update the license - which is a point, and was the initial motivation for the edit I've made on {{PD-old-auto-1923}} - to make it comply, precisely, with such a requirement. What should be done in this case? Ignore the warning? Remove the warning? Duplicate {{PD-old-auto-1923}} into yet another license, so that it can cover those situations?-- Darwin Ahoy! 01:59, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Why not use {{PD-old-100-1923}} or {{PD-anon-1923}}?. I do not like resurrecting {{PD-old-90-1923}}, if you know someone date of death than use {{PD-old-auto-1923}} if you do not than do not use PD-old templates. {{PD-old-90-1923}} and other such templates was retired because files using it were would require to be updated to {{PD-old-100-1923}} after a decade. {{PD-old-auto-1923}} is better because it does it automatically. --Jarekt (talk) 04:20, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
I can't use {{PD-old-100-1923}}, because it is not PD-old-100, and I can't use {{PD-anon-1923}}, because those are not anonymous works, though they are undoubtedly public domain. There is no other option, either we use {{PD-old-90-1923}}, or we change {{PD-old-auto-1923}} to allow for those cases (which was my original idea).-- Darwin Ahoy! 13:56, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Darwin, It might be the best if we start new discussion to Commons:Village pump/Copyright, so others with even more experience in licensing can participate. Could you point to an image, explain the copyright situation and we can figure out if we can meet those needs with existing templates or we need a new one. --Jarekt (talk) 14:03, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
File:Mapa histórico do Brasil - folha Purus.tif is an obvious situation. All photographs from Brazil with no stated author (or with stated author that we don't know the death year) taken between 1917 and 1922 also fall in such category, independently of being anonymous or not. {{PD-old-90-1923}} solves it for now, so I'll leave that discussion to another time in the future, unless someone else starts it.-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Darwin, I do not think {{PD-old-90-1923}} is the right fit. If the work was created in 1922 and author was 20 years old at the time of the creation, and lived to the age of 80, than he would have died around year 2000. I do not know why do you claim he had to die in 1920's. I do not see any info in the file suggesting that. --Jarekt (talk) 14:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
It's not a single author, it's a collective work comissioned by an organization, so what counts is the date the work was completed (or published, in case of an editor), according to the 1916 Brazilian law code that rules over those matters. In the case of photographs, the ones from that period should always be public domain in Brazil, independently of being authored or not. {{PD-old-100-1923}} is being used for those situations, and {{PD-old-90-1923}} says pretty much the same, only changing the period to 90, so if there is some problem with that, it goes much, much deeper than the mere use of {{PD-old-90-1923}} on those situations, which is basically the same as using the generic {{PD-old-100-1923}}, only changing the period.-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:43, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Darwin, If you do not know that author died more than 90 years ago than you should not use PD-old-90 template. In case of File:Mapa histórico do Brasil - folha Purus.tif, you need to use Brazil specific template, and {{PD-BR-1937}}, {{PD-Brazil-URAA}} and {{PD-BR-URAAanon}} all seem to apply to it. Why not use one of the templates made for such cases? --Jarekt (talk) 15:55, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Because it's a PD-1923 case, and those should be kept apart from the URAA situations. And it's not only about Brazil, Portugal (and other countries) has the same disposition relating to collective works.-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:12, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Darwin, If other countries have the same laws than we need to use templates that are specific to those countries. If we do not have such templates than we should create them. As for , PD-1923 vs. URAA laws in US. I would just add {{PD-1923}} license to the file in addition to {{PD-BR-1937}}, as the file meets conditions of both laws. --Jarekt (talk) 16:28, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm thinking if the correct thing to do wouldn't be to duplicate {{PD-old-auto-1923}} in a new tag in order to cover {{PD-anon-1923}} and all those cases where there is a certain date, and "this date has an equivalent effect on copyright expiration" to the author's death date. I don't believe URAA tags should be used for cases which are clearly PD-1923, as those are.-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:24, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
If file meets requirements of {{PD-1923}} and {{PD-1996}} than it often has both licenses. See for example, File:IgnacyJanPaderewski.jpg, which has {{PD-Polish}} (which covers {{PD-1996}}) and {{PD-1923}}. Than you just add both licenses. --Jarekt (talk) 16:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I don't see why we can't use a shortcut to cover those situations, as was done with {{PD-old-auto-1923}}, as they are exactly the same under PD-1923 and local country law, as are the cases where the author is known. I don't see the benefit of cluttering the URAA categories, which are always subject of close scrutiny, with obviously cleared PD-1923 material. Cases as the 1891 Constitution of Brazil should be also covered by such a tag, as they are not public domain because someone died, but for a completely different disposition on the law.-- Darwin Ahoy! 16:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi Jarekt. I'll probably propose this (or ask for some suggestions on how to deal with those cases) at VPC at some point in the future, but I can't promise when. If you want this to go faster, please open the issue there, and ping me, and I'll follow suit and join. Cheers,-- Darwin Ahoy! 14:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Darwin I do not have any questions for Commons:Village pump/Copyright at the moment. In case of your file I would just use Brazilian template + {{PD-1923}}, the way we deal with other similar files. Creating more ways of doing the same thing just creates confusion, because others are trying to figure out why two similar files are treated differently. But if you disagree, please check at Commons:Village pump/Copyright how others feel about it before you create any new license template. --Jarekt (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
As far as I know, there is no Brazilian template covering those old government files, nor there should be any need for it, as it's always PD-1923. Yes, I believe either {{PD-old-auto-1923}} should be changed in order to cover those situations, or a new similar template should be created to deal with everything that is PD-1923, but not related to anyone's death. I'll bring that to VPC, eventually, in the future.-- Darwin Ahoy! 03:25, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
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