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File:Ciociarella (Belisario Gioia).jpg

Ciao Blackcat, mi rinomini per cortesia Gioia con Gioja sia nel nome del file che della categoria. Grazie. --Abisys (talk) 21:25, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Abisys: ✓ Done -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:03, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ho visto grazie mille Sergio. --Abisys (talk) 09:05, 8 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rosso e Blu (Strisce) con croce Rosso e Blu.svg

Ciao! In queste 16 pagine il file in oggetto con cosa va sostituito? --Horcrux (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Horcrux: per adesso redirect, dopo cancellazione a orfanizzazione compiuta. Poi qualcuno spieghi a Marrina Arca di non insistere (eufemismo) con icone con bordini sotto i 5 px perché a 20px di risoluzione tanto non si vede una fava. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:42, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


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Roy17 (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Consiglio

Ciao Sergio, vorrei chiederti un parere su questa immagine che ho trovato su Facebook e sarebbe tutto sommato utile a illustrare una voce che ho da poco creato. Essendo risalente a oltre 25 anni fa e apparentemente non disponibile altrove online su siti o archivi d'agenzia, mi chiedevo se, fermo restando che la fonte non è il massimo della vita, la si potesse inserire in Commons con tag {{PD-Italy}} {{Not-PD-US-URAA}} --Vale93b (talk) 13:05, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Vale93b: , se stai parlando di quella di Imola del 1° maggio 1994, NON VA BENE su Commons. Va bene su it.wiki perché si rispetta la regola dei 20 anni post 1978 quindi non compatibile URAA ma compatibile legge sul diritto d'autore italiana. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:09, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
per l'esattezza è una foto di Aida, dunque di due settimane prima, comunque suppongo la musica cambi poco. --Vale93b (talk) 14:40, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Peggio ancora. Non conosco la legge giapponese, @Vale93b: , ma se è comunque del 1994 stiamo sempre su quel crinale pericoloso che nel 1996 non era in PD negli USA. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:47, 16 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Richiedere la cancellazione di un file

Ciao Sergio! (quanto tempo che non ci sentiamo^^) ascolta come devo fare per richiedere la cancellazione di un file da Commons? Vedi il fatto è che prima per ritagliare le foto non usavo croop tool e la qualità era più bassa, quindi adesso vorrei cancellare quei ritagli che non servono. Ad esempio adesso questo è un doppione che non serve: [1]

Tu puoi cancellarlo o dirmi come procedere? Grazie --Stella (talk) 13:15, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao @Stella: , qual è il file di cui è doppione? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:17, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Questo che ti ho indicato nel link: [2] --Stella (talk) 13:18, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Stella: , se è un doppione ci sarà un altro file: di quale file è doppione? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Di quello che ho appena creato con croop tool; questo qui: [3] --Stella (talk) 13:39, 29 August 2019 (UTC) (scusa, prima non avevo letto bene la tua domanda)[reply]
Ok, @Stella: , ✓ Done! -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 14:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Grazie mille :) --Stella (talk) 14:06, 29 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Estoy poniendo categorias a unas colecciones de fotos antiguas y me he encontrado con File:Façana del museu capitoli amb un grup d'homes i dones en primer terme.jpeg que, según el título (en catalan), es la fachada del museo Capitolino. Creo que no lo es, pero tampoco he podido averiguar de qué edificio se trata. Lo conoces o lo podrias identificar? Te lo pregunto por ser italiano y con la esperanza de que seas de Roma. Te advierto que, vista la experiencia que he tenido en el tratamiento de estas colecciones, tampoco tengo la plena seguridad de que sea de Roma. Basta observar la cantidad de renombramientos de imágenes que he tenido que realizar. Puedes contestarme en italiano que comprendo bien. Gracias y a tu disposición.--Isidre blanc (talk) 22:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hola, @Isidre blanc: , hai ragione: non sono i Musei Capitolini, ma il Casino Nobile di Villa Borghese (e sì, sono di Roma) -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:19, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Atlético de Madrid

I think you worked to quickly moving images from Category:Logos and symbols of Atlético de Madrid to Category:Logos of Atlético de Madrid. The photographs of the bus, flag, stadium, car and mascot don't belong in the new category. --JECE (talk) 00:16, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@JECE: yes, but it's not the category which is wrong, is that those items shouldn't be there. The category is consistent with their mother category : "logos of". Nobody prevents us from creating "Symbols of".. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 11:44, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I understand, but you made the changes to fix one issue and now something else is wrong. How about moving the other items back to the original category and nesting Category:Logos of Atlético de Madrid under the orginal category?--JECE (talk) 13:55, 28 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Otra identificación

Disculpa que te moleste, Sergio: no conozco ni he podido localizar en Roma un "campanile" y una cúpula semejantes a los que aparecen en la foto File:Part de la ciutat de Roma.jpeg. Creo que son de otra ciudad. Puedes identificarla? Gracias. Te recuerdo que puede no ser de Roma, como no era de Roma, por ejemplo, la foto: File:Fontana a Villa d'Este.jpg, cuyo título era "Jardins amb un llac artificial en primer terme".--Isidre blanc (talk) 21:14, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

P.D.: otro ejemplo reciente: la foto File:Part de la ciutat de Torí des dels afores, amb un conreu en primer terme.jpeg, no es de Torino, sino de Novara.--Isidre blanc (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hola, @Isidre blanc: , tienes razon, no es Roma, esta ciudad me parece Bolonia, pero es mejor si escuchamos a alguien de ese lugar como @Marcordb: o @Elitre: .
En lo que respecta a Tivoli, es fácil cometer errores, porque Tivoli está a 20 km de Roma y se puede ver desde los distritos orientales de la ciudad. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:04, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yo creo que no es Bolonia (desculpe, yo no hablo espanol): Non ricordo cupole di quelle dimensioni in centro storico. Una delle più importanti è Santa Maria della Vita, ma parliamo di dimensioni nettamente differenti. Non vedo portici (un elemento costante di Bologna), e non riesco a collocare la ciminiera in basso a sinistra. Non riesco ad esservi molto d'aiuto. --Marcordb (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Grazie lo stesso, @Marcordb: . Comunque sono pressoché certo che si tratti di una città del Nord Italia, perché a Roma non ci sono più torri di quell'altezza nel centro storico, furono tutte distrutte dal Rinascimento in poi. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 11:20, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

favore per cancellare immagine

Ciao Sergio, scusa se ti disturbo ancora^^: potresti per favore cancellarmi questo file: lucia migliaccio

La risoluzione è pessima e siccome ne ho trovata una più nitida, preferisco che questa venga cancellato (poiché provando a sostituirla non mi dà le misure trovate perché suppongo non corrispondano i tipi di file o non se che altro) ma così mi dà li nervoso (essendo che c'è fuori una migloire risoluzione con i suoi colori) e preferisco cancellarla e ricaricarla senza sostituzione. --Stella (talk) 14:48, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Scusa @Stella: , non ho capito. La versione attualmente caricata, l'ultima intendo, è quella più "nitida" che vorresti ricaricare? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:05, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tu la vedi nitida? E perché io non la vedo? Io vedo ancora la prima versione però più espansa -.- dici che è questione di pc allora? Forse devo riavviare il sistema e forse la vedrò anch'io più nitida... bò, vedrò di riavviare e ti faccio sapere... scusa ancora il disturbo! --Stella (talk) 15:09, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sergio io la vedo sfocata... ho pure provato a ripsistinare una versione precedente ma niente... sempre uguale. Se puoi farmi il favore di cancellarla ne caricherò una migliore, altrimenti va bene, fa niente. --Stella (talk) 15:47, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Stella: , come va ora? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:54, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
La vedo sempre sfocata... anche se sono contenta che siano sparite tutte le versioni precedenti^^ --Stella (talk) 15:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Stella: , ma era questa quella che tu avevi caricato? Hai provato a forzare una ricarica con F5? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 15:59, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sergio adesso la vedo nitida anch'io; grazie per la pazienza^^ --Stella (talk) 17:03, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Figurati @Stella: , è sempre un piacere. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:30, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your deletion at Category:Association football venues

Hello Blackcat, I do not understand this diff, deleting without explanation all languages other than English. This disables the language selection option for non-English speakers. Also, why remove the hatnote regarding the term "soccer", which is used in some parts of the world where the term "football" is understood to mean gridiron football (i.e., Category:American football venues by country). Kindly explain, please.  JGHowes  talk 18:29, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @JGHowes: , I hadn't finished yet. Simply all that list was cumbersome, now I've fixed the issue using LangSwitch so you've only one line according to the language you're using. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:35, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh ok ho capito. Una tazza di caffè americano per te — .  JGHowes  talk 18:49, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
thanks @JGHowes: , we have an American bar in Rome that makes a good American coffee. Of course the taste is different from the expresso coffee we are used to drink in Italy but it is rather good. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:53, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:European Cycling Union

I noticed your edits to Category:European Cycling Union. Category:Transport organizations is the parent category of Category:Cycling organizations. Please do not violate COM:OVERCAT.--Kai3952 (talk) 19:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It was a mistake of mine, @Kai3952: , I should only remove Category:Sports organizations by sport but don't know why I rollbacked your last edit. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 20:51, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Your userpage claims that you have been on Commons for 12 years, and contributed more than 330,000 edits. I'm a little confused. Don't you really know what "COM:OVERCAT" is?--Kai3952 (talk) 21:50, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, @Kai3952: . Not categorizing the same item in two dependant categories. I said it was my mistake indeed. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:52, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think so, because I wrote in the edit summary: I see there is a more precise category(Category:Cycling organizations) already there. I would suspect that you are deliberately violating COM:OVERCAT.--Kai3952 (talk) 01:46, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Should I care of your bad faith assumptions? -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think I am attacking you? I am not. I am just complaining because you increase my unnecessary workload. If you are joking, it's not funny. I think that our edits should be help for the Wikimedia Commons, rather than unnecessary issues/disputes. If you care about bad faith assumptions, then I don't understand why you say: It was a mistake of mine?---Kai3952 (talk) 05:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Because mistakes happen. I am an administrator, and I have always fought against overcategorization, thus your complains have no reasons to stand. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 06:33, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Are you joking me? I spend my time telling you: Category:Transport organizations is the parent category of Category:Cycling organizations. Please do not violate COM:OVERCAT. And now you say my complains have no reasons to stand?! Let me think...does that mean that everything you do is right and don't need others to correct your mistakes?--Kai3952 (talk) 09:02, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am simply saying that I admitted to have done a mistake, that mistakes happen, and that you keep on annoying me with pointless speech. Thanks for stopping replying. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 09:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that no one likes to be annoyed, but you made a careless mistake cause my workload to increase. This could have been avoided if you noticed what I wrote in the edit summary. On the other hand, if you really think that what I said was pointless, then I want to know how you avoid violating COM:OVERCAT?--Kai3952 (talk) 09:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copertine di riviste

Mi sa che it:Utente:Fatima_Rossi/Sandbox#Le_copertine è da ranzare in blocco (come tutta la pagina al momento, ma vabbè...) --Vale93b (talk) 22:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Vale93b: già, peraltro mi dispiace pure ma senza ticket OTRS, posto sia lei ad avere i diritti, non possiamo fare un granché, tocca ranzare. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 13:04, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fort Belvoir

Not sure your move was proper, given that its an army post and not a town. The Wikipedia article matched the category name previously, and now does not. Famartin (talk) 17:08, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Famartin: omg really? I have always an hard time when dealing with a place in the U.S. . I explain. In my country there are no "unincorporated" places. The lowest administrative unitarian subdivision is the municipality (comune in Italian), thus there is not a single place of our country that does not belong to a municipality whatsoever, even if it were an Army fort. In the U.S. it seems that a place like Fort Belvoir can be legally written on papers as place of birth. Hence my confusion that led me to consider it a civil entity like a town or a village. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 17:14, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Categories for discussion/2016/12/Category:History of Czechia

I saw that you closed this CFD. Do you want any help renaming all the Czechia categories to Czech Republic (not to mention removing the CFD template from them)? --Auntof6 (talk) 05:13, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

When you closed this discussion, was it your intention or understanding that the term Czechia should not be used for any category names? I noticed that User:Cmuelle8 renamed Category:Paintings from the Czech Republic by museum to Category:Paintings from Czechia by museum, possibly to match the parent category name. Should we be renaming categories to use the same name (Czech Republic), per the discussion? --Auntof6 (talk) 22:12, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph request

Hi Blackcat, I'm an editor with the English Wikipedia, currently working on the biography of an Australian artist, Dora Ohlfsen, who lived and worked for decades in Rome. Do you ever consider requests for particular cc-by images? There are two I'm looking for in Rome in relation to her article. If it's something you'd be willing to consider, please let me know. If not, please feel free to ignore this request. All the best, SarahSV (talk) 00:09, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Jorge Miranda

You renamed.

However Portugal’s Jorge Miranda is mainly also a politician of sorts, being one of the country’s leading Constitution Law experts — which contrasts with Brazil’s Jorge Miranda’s modest political career so far. That’s why the disambiguation parenthesis chosen by me back then was Brazil v.s Portugal, which are simple and clear. Your category renaming is unhelpful and should be reverted, and such category renamings should futurely be discussed before enacted. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 18:31, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

François Gouin

François Gouin

Ciao vecchio lupo, vorrei dotare le voci su François Gouin (1831-1896; wData) di un'immagine. Il ritratto fotografico presente in https://educationalresearchtechniques.com/2016/10/24/series-method/ può essere preso di peso e importato su Commons? Grazie. :)) --pequod ..Ħƕ 18:37, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Il wizardio mi ha fatto un po' di difficoltà perché non conosco la data di pubblicazione (o di realizzazione). Pensi che vada bene? --pequod ..Ħƕ 20:56, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unsplash e Commons:License review

Ciao caro, ho creato Template:Unsplash/it. Puoi vedere che sia tutto a posto? Mi pare ok.

Nel farlo, sono incappato in Commons:License review/it, che ha per titolo "Commons:Revisore di licenze". Non sarebbe meglio modificare in "Verifica della licenza"? --pequod ..Ħƕ 20:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Pequod76: ok la prima, per la seconda che hai detto va bene. Se puoi spostarla fallo, altrimenti se è protetta dimmelo che lo faccio io. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 22:17, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Lake Togo e Category:Lake Tōgō

Ciao una cortesia. Ho creato la seconda categoria come scissione dalla prima a causa di un errato raggruppamento e ho anche sistemato Wikidata. Tuttavia continuo a vedere "NO WIKIDATA ID FOUND!" sulla prima (sebbene sia correttamente presente su Wikidata) e delle informazioni errate sulla seconda (relative all'altra istanza).

E' solo un problema di aggiornamento o va eseguita qualche altra azione? --Andyrom75 (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ehm... @Andyrom75: Al di là di non trovarsi su 'Data, è un problema il nome. Ci metto mano dopo, sto tornando a casa. - SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 19:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ho capito il problema (palm face). Ora ho sistemato davvero questa istanza relativa a Lake Togo e l'altra istanza relativa a Lake Tōgō. Prima avevo erroneamente valorizzato la proprietà "categoria su Commons". --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:49, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Andyrom75: , quello era giusto. Il problema era che due nomi uguali senza disambiguante possono essere problematici, quindi ho disambiguato per Paese. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 10:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Grazie mille per aver rettificato anche quest'ultimo aspetto. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:01, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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English names vs. Italian names

As per your own words, care to explain why is that you claim that the University of Lisbon is the "official English exonim" for Universidade de Lisboa, yet the official Universidade de Lisboa english website calls its university Universidade de Lisboa, be it in English or Portuguese, but yet you moved it, albeit all the above.

But when you move some italian categories like Category:Cimitero acattolico (Rome) to Category:Cimitero acattolico (Rome), why do you keep its italian name when, using your own arguments, its "official English exonim" is "Non-Catholic Cemetery" or "Non-Catholic Cemetery in Rome", per the official website and the english wikipedia?

Or better yet, you create categories to educational organizations in Italy in their native name, like Category:Istituto nazionale di astrofisica, when in their website it is the "official English exonim" as National Institute for Astrophysics].

You create an category to Istituto nazionale di astrofisica, in italian when in their website there is an "official English exonim" and in the Universidade de Lisboa website, there is always mention to Universidade de Lisboa, be it in english or portuguese and yet you moved this category to Category:University of Lisbon? How do you explain this double standards? Tm (talk) 20:13, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Tm: , I also left Sapienza University of Rome‎, Tor Vergata University‎ and Roma Tre University‎ because they are assessed exonims, being the three first State universities of Rome and known abroad also. We don't have an exonim for other universities in Rome, though tere's University of Milan or University of Turin. Thus I make no preference, not even for the schools of my own country. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 23:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You did not answer my question and worst, just reinforcing that you are making up and using double standards. Universidade de Lisboa website uses "Universidade de Lisboa", as an exonim of its name in portuguese english. Again, why the double standard And the fact that you make categories in your own??? Why Category:Cimitero acattolico (Rome) instead of "Non-Catholic Cemetery" or "Non-Catholic Cemetery in Rome" or Category:Istituto nazionale di astrofisica instead of "National Institute for Astrophysics"??? Tm (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war

Please stop blind reverting and actually show a source that supports your claim. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: what source do you need? The Oxford dictionary? The key R.E.M. sorts by R dot E dot M, and we don't sort by dots. Dot is an ASCII charachter and influences the sorting. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"We don't sort by dots"? See, e.g. sorting the band's name on Wikipedia. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:30, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: , we are not en.wiki. That said, stop it or I am going to report you to another admin, as I cannot block you being involved in the edit. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I know we aren't: hence I am asking for some documentation here. Absent that, please stop edit-warring. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:32, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See m:Edit war. Please stop reverting to your preferred version with no policy basis. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:33, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, see Commons:Rollback. Rollback is for anti-vandal actions and I am not a vandal. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:35, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Koavf: You're indeed bordering the vandalism with these nonsense editing on the sort key. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 18:37, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The way that "R.E.M." is sorted is "R.E.M.". Again, I am asking for any policy or guideline that would say otherwise. Do you have one or not? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:46, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry, I see two bald men fighting over a comb. But IMO the sort name for bands should be, since we respect names of organisations etc that they use themselves, the band's name AS THEY USE IT, e.g. with dots and (in other cases) by capitalisation, etc. Rodhullandemu (talk) 18:59, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Rodhullandemu: , the matter is about sorting. The dots are mute, so you read "R E M" but ASCII codes sort. On the paper you wouldn't sort by R.E.M. but by Rem or REM. It has nothing to do how the band's name must be stylized but only sorted in a list. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 19:12, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you have my opinion. What on earth makes you think I would change it? Meanwhile, I've booked the rest of the evening to remove my left leg with a rusty penknife, so I may lose interest about this. Cheers. Rodhullandemu (talk) 20:17, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OMG @Rodhullandemu: hope you have sterilized it with a bit of whisky at least. Not safe to attempt such operation with a rusty device. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 21:49, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Sergio. It's logical to sort by REM, removing all points, minuses, commas and other non-alphabet characters. I see here different opinions and maybe broader discussion is needed. Taivo (talk) 09:08, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, @Taivo: , you're right, is a so self-evident point that one shouldn't even waste bits to explain it. -- SERGIO (aka the Blackcat) 12:34, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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