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File:1580 Lucas Janszoon Waghenaer Carte de l'ouest de la bretagne.jpg, featured[edit]
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Non-photographic media/Maps
Info created by Lucas Janszoon Waghenaer - uploaded & nominated by S. DÉNIEL (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Support -- S. DÉNIEL (talk) 14:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Oppose That's a good quality scan, but not as hig-res as it can be if it would have been made with a plotter or even a good overhead scanner. Number of dpi is downleveled to default 72 like always if you edit something like this in Photoshop. But before that reason one thing caused me to decline here. I simply don't like the fold in the middle and think it should be carefully removed. I know there are people who say that it belongs to the history of the document and the archival tradition of this map, but I believe, since this is a simple reproduction it sould show us mainly it's content in first place. --Der Angemeldete (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Je n’ai pas fait cette retouche volontairement, car elle est difficile et risque plus de corrompre l’image que de la restaurer. Parfois il faut aussi savoir s'abstenir de retoucher (sinon il faut reprendre sur photoshop toutes les craquelures de la Mona-lisa de Vinci). Si vous lisez la description de l’image, vous constaterez que cette carte a plus de 400 ans. Ce que vous devriez voir c’est son état exceptionnel de conservation. Le papier est sain, le tracé est bien visible, l’impression est net et les couleurs sont encore belles. Ce genre de document ne se scanne pas avec n’importe quoi. Je ne vois d’ailleurs pas ce qu’une meilleure définition apporterait puisqu’on voit la trame du papier. Le cartographe est un auteur majeur et son Atlas le premier du genre à être imprimé. Vous noterez qu’il y a des profils en travers du relief de la Bretagne, ce qui est rare. Vous noterez aussi les belles illustrations : A terre on voit les animaux qui font l’objet d’élevages (l’exemple du cheval qui est la spécialité de St-Renan et sa région - on le voit ici orner la région du Léon); en mer les illustrations sont soignées, chimères et bateau. Le cartouche central est finement détaillé et le compas donnant l’échelle particulièrement soigné. C’est une carte marine, donc on y trouve les hauteurs de fonds, les récifs, les îles … Il est certain que si on regarde juste le pli et la définition c’est autre chose. --S. DÉNIEL (talk) 17:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- That was exactly my point. I didn't speak about the conservation status, I spoke about the clarity of information and details. I know better conserved maps than this one and even older ones, but I can't bring them to Commons, cause it's either not allowed to upload them here nor am I able to reproduce them in a quality that would be sufficient to reach the status of a Quality Image. I do not vote for the archiv or library that conservates the original I vote for the reproducement. And in my opinion this could have been better done. It's an impressing map though.--Der Angemeldete (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support Even if it would be possible to do a higher-resolution scan, what we have here is more than satisfactory for FP. The fold in the middle isn't very distracting for me - I didn't even see it at first glance. Cmao20 (talk) 18:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support I agree with Cmao--BoothSift 00:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support High resolution, renown cartographer, excellent conservation state. I particularly enjoy the weird fishes beautifully drawn -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:34, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 05:31, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support - If someone does a higher-resolution scan that's better, we can promote that in place of this, but for now, we have this, and it's a beautiful map and a nice scan. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:56, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support The most unusual feature in this, is the drawings of the land silhouettes as seen from a ship. Such drawing were mostly found in pilots' note books until well into the 20th century when chart books of such silhouettes were issued. --Cart (talk) 08:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 09:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support Daniel Case (talk) 01:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Palauenc05 (talk) 08:16, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Tozina (talk) 13:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Support --EATCHA (talk) 11:10, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Non-photographic media/Maps
