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Operator: Valerio Bozzolan (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)
Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: We are preparing Wikimedia Commons to Wiki Loves Monuments 2018 in Switzerland! Please see the bot test contributions (we love to set descriptive edit summaries). In short, the bot creates categories and adds files to them when possible, and connects these categories in Wikidata. Thank you for your time, reviewers.
Automatic or manually assisted:
Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): one time run
Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 10-15 edits per minute
Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N
Programming language(s): PHP (git repository)
Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- Are names like Category:Strick, paläolithische/neolithische Siedlungen really untranslatable on English? By the word, please use {{Wikidata Infobox}} for cases like Category:Kirill Listratov. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: Hello! The involved monuments are over 7000 but, as you can see, sometimes their Wikidata name is not provided in English. We also really hope to promote the improvements of these monuments (e.g. to have more descriptive descriptions and an English label) with this event. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- May be other organizers of competition could help with translation? --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:27, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: Hello! The involved monuments are over 7000 but, as you can see, sometimes their Wikidata name is not provided in English. We also really hope to promote the improvements of these monuments (e.g. to have more descriptive descriptions and an English label) with this event. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 14:18, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- The contest is starting on September 1st... in the mother category there are already a lot of German descriptions, goal of the contest is to improve visibility of the monuments and hopefully involve people in translations. --Civvì (talk) 14:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- But then categories will be re-created and files need to be changed. Actually many of a lot of Wiki-Love something participants uses only content categories and organizers do further categorization. In such cases translations/categories could be created on-demand. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 13:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- The contest is starting on September 1st... in the mother category there are already a lot of German descriptions, goal of the contest is to improve visibility of the monuments and hopefully involve people in translations. --Civvì (talk) 14:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
- Why have empty categories to be created? --Krd 07:24, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
- We have to say that this was the standard way to organize Wiki Loves Monument events since years by past teams, probably because empty categories are easy to be filled by new Commons users. Without these categories, all the pictures (thousands of images) will be uploaded to service categories, with future problems of categorization. They will be directly connected with the relative Wikidata items, ad part of this project and migration the monuments databases to Wikidata. Thank you for your interest. --CristianNX
- Thanks again for all the suggestions. Anyway, unfortunately the time is a bit going off. If it can help in avoid any bureaucrat problem with this semi-automated tool that creates the categories of these notable national monuments, perhaps it can help if I remove the bot flag from our semi-automated edits while editing on Wikimedia Commons (e.g. bot flag removal from source code) and I can also work very slowly, in order to really do not use bot special privileges. You know, «Semi-automated tools (e.g. Javascript tools) are not normally considered to be bots». Well, if you are interested as me in other strange bureaucratic inconsistencies, see also this personal nth request on bot consensus on Wikidata. In the meanwhile, thank you for any other kind reply/approval and for your time. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 02:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- In the meanwhile I'm editing very slowly and saving without sending the API bot flag as said above and operating only on monuments that have an English description (even if it's a Swiss event...) and that can be immediately filled with at least one image (even if the purpose of the empty categories is to be easily populated by participants...) in order to full respect any objection, until formal approval. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: About who can contribute to translations: here anyone can easily find monuments that don't have an English label. But you can visualize how nearly all the monuments are just in German or French. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 00:46, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think task could be approved if bot will create categories with English translations. At same time you could try to call for help of more translators. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- OK thanks. FYI in order to quit from our deadlock I tried to spam our needs in Wikidata project chat (permalink) and also in the Telegram one. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think task could be approved if bot will create categories with English translations. At same time you could try to call for help of more translators. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:07, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- @EugeneZelenko: About who can contribute to translations: here anyone can easily find monuments that don't have an English label. But you can visualize how nearly all the monuments are just in German or French. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 00:46, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- In the meanwhile I'm editing very slowly and saving without sending the API bot flag as said above and operating only on monuments that have an English description (even if it's a Swiss event...) and that can be immediately filled with at least one image (even if the purpose of the empty categories is to be easily populated by participants...) in order to full respect any objection, until formal approval. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 16:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks again for all the suggestions. Anyway, unfortunately the time is a bit going off. If it can help in avoid any bureaucrat problem with this semi-automated tool that creates the categories of these notable national monuments, perhaps it can help if I remove the bot flag from our semi-automated edits while editing on Wikimedia Commons (e.g. bot flag removal from source code) and I can also work very slowly, in order to really do not use bot special privileges. You know, «Semi-automated tools (e.g. Javascript tools) are not normally considered to be bots». Well, if you are interested as me in other strange bureaucratic inconsistencies, see also this personal nth request on bot consensus on Wikidata. In the meanwhile, thank you for any other kind reply/approval and for your time. --Valerio Bozzolan (talk) 02:03, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
- We have to say that this was the standard way to organize Wiki Loves Monument events since years by past teams, probably because empty categories are easy to be filled by new Commons users. Without these categories, all the pictures (thousands of images) will be uploaded to service categories, with future problems of categorization. They will be directly connected with the relative Wikidata items, ad part of this project and migration the monuments databases to Wikidata. Thank you for your interest. --CristianNX
- Just a quick comment that Valerio Bozzolan is an experienced bot programmer/operator and his bot can be expected to deliver what promised. I've not inspected the specific task at hand though. --Nemo 17:02, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
- If there are no objections, I think task should be approved and bot status given. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)