Category talk:Driving cabs of rail vehicles

Proposition to move: Category:Train cockpits to Category:Driving cabs because I can't find a hint in the English wikipedia that cockpit is normally uesd for driver's cabs of locomotives and other rail vehicles. Same thing here: wiktionary:cockpit. Other proposition for the category name: Driver's cabs.

•  Oppose Not in line with naming in category:cockpits and a driving cab could be for a train, tram, truck, bus, ... --Foroa (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
•  Comment Searching for train cockpits on google produces 1,280,000 ghits, so there is more then a hint that the term is used. Declaring an interest as the progenitor of this category, so will explain the rationale of this category without voting. This category came about through the diffusing of the cockpits category, which was hundreds of files of cockpits with little organisation, mostly of aircraft as can be expected, however as the aircraft files were being sorted out into their own subcategories, it became apparent that there existed small groups of cockpits from other vehicles. These other vehicles were given their own categories and were filled out using the search function to find similar files. Looking through the contents of train cockpits, it should become obvious that it is a term used by photographers and uploaders (my re-organisation took place in April 2008, so the existence of this category may have influenced what uploaders choose to name their files after this date, but the majority of such named files predate this re-organisation.)KTo288 (talk) 22:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
  • PS is it usual to put a category under discussion template on the talk pages of the creators of a category?KTo288 (talk) 22:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
•  Comment The fact that photographers and uploaders use a term doesn't necessarily say that the term is correct. And the number of hits on Google doesn't say more. First you have to subtract all those entries who based their wording on the Wiki category! Second you have to subtract the entries of persons who have no idea at all of railway terms. Ask 100 persons what they would call the wheel seen in this picture File:Zurich Be 4-6 Mirage 1606 cab.jpg and I'm sure only few would correctly call it a controller or "the controls". I have never seen the word cockpit for a cab in a publication of the rail industry. -- Gürbetaler (talk) 23:30, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

No intense discussion until here! Template removed.--Gürbetaler (talk) 23:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

•  Support If anyone wishes to revive this move discussion, I would support it. Using the term "cockpit" for train cabs sounds unnatural in English. --DAJF (talk) 01:33, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
•  Comment I can agree "cockpit" is not the best word for rolling stock driver's cab (I feel it as an unusual metaphor). However, the proposed category name is not better. Maybe, it is more "natural", but it is also less correct and specific. Almost every type of vehicle (a ship, a bus or tram, a truck, an aircraft, a crane) can have a driving cab (excluding bicycles and small automobiles). We could use some more descriptive name but such one would be too long. The current name is a bit curious but also short and unambiguously understandable. However, "Train driving cabs" can be acceptable name (and similarly for the parent category and for non-aircraft sister categories). --ŠJů (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
•  Comment Quite against our language habits the Public Transport Company of Zürich is now seeking "tram pilots" (Trampiloten) instead of "tram drivers" (Tramführer in German). Maybe it's not long we need to get used to tram cockpits...-- Gürbetaler (talk) 01:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

  We have not a category Category:Tram drivers but Category:Motormen. Let's discuss it there... --ŠJů (talk) 22:18, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

New proposal: Train driving cabs

•  Support - thank you for this proposition -- Gürbetaler (talk) 20:56, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
•  Support: "Train driving cabs" sounds sensible. --DAJF (talk) 02:07, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

General discussion

Please notice the general discussion Commons:Categories for discussion/2014/01/Category:Driving cabs of vehicles. --ŠJů (talk) 22:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)