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[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 2 May 2023 at 02:54:33 (UTC)
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- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Natural#Ethiopia
- Info created & uploaded by Snowmanstudios (Thomas Fuhrmann) - nominated by User:Ikan Kekek -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Gorgeous blue (purple?) hour photo of an Ethiopian salt lake. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support -- IamMM (talk) 05:06, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support outstanding, but it has a ccw tilt. Thomas Fuhrmann: please fix it. As the water is always horizontal, the line between an object and its reflection should be vertical. -- Ivar (talk) 05:49, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment the sky colours look very unnatural to me. Perhaps could OOP, Snowmanstudios, explain this? --SHB2000 (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment While we wait for possible comment from him, my remark is that I think they're plausible. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:07, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- This photographer creates beautiful images that are heavily processed. This should be declared as photo art or something like that. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:38, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- That would be redundant, wouldn't it? And beyond whether all photos are "photo art," let's say for the sake of discussion that this is indeed heavily processed (although I don't know whether it was). Photographers have been heavily processing images for well over 150 years, haven't they? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:40, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- You're probably right. Anyway - really full explanation on this one, so plan to support. But is the licence OK - the copyright info on the EXIF looks restrictive even though it has a CC 4.0 banner. Charlesjsharp (talk) 18:55, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- I'm now going to oppose per A.Savin's comment below. --SHB2000 (talk) 01:11, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Lifar. A red dead pixel at the bottom right and a white one at the left should be fixed.--Ermell (talk) 07:54, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Is the purple color realistic ? I don't know, but the wow is there. PS : I don't see dead pixels mentionned by Ermell. --Sebring12Hrs (talk) 11:22, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment first of all, Thanks to Ikan Kekek for the nomiation! I really appreciate it. Regarding the notes and other question: I fixed the tilt, I found the dead pixels (coming froming the 25sec expos., not using the reduction for it) ... the colors: I got curious, because usually I don´t do a lot of processing, except using hdr´s from time to time if light makes it easier or I can´t use filters. Usually other photographers tell me to add more saturation and so on. I uploaded the original RAW image here: Details of the shot: tripod, ND-filter, GND-filter, ISO 100, 25sec, f/8,0. The low ISO and low shutter speed explains the nice soft colors. And yes, it was a really blue to purple hour. Thhe whole set of images are crazy. Detail of editing: Exposure +0,63; contrast +24; highlights -100; shadows +22; whites -40; blacks -3; clarity +8; vibrance +12; saturation +32; no tone curve edits; no HSL or Color edits. More questions? Ask. :) --Snowmanstudios (talk) 16:40, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Snowmanstudios, thanks very much for your remarks! Could you also address the points made by A.Savin, Basile Morin and me below and by Charlesjsharp about the license (which looked OK to me)? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek As visible, I uploaded the image under CC BY-SA 4.0-license. I can´t see a problem here, too. Snowmanstudios (talk) 12:49, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Snowmanstudios, thanks very much for your remarks! Could you also address the points made by A.Savin, Basile Morin and me below and by Charlesjsharp about the license (which looked OK to me)? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Dinkum (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --XRay 💬 17:42, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --BigDom (talk) 20:41, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose I happen to know this place exactly same time of day, that is, colours are definitely unrealistic, picture is very poorly categorized btw. --A.Savin 23:01, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment At this latitude, I wouldn't think there would be a drastic difference between November and January, so this does give me some pause. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:19, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Purple hue of the derivative version
⚠️ Uncalibrated color space. The so-called "raw image, no editing" is also uncalibrated, and displays a "Tint value = +32" from the metadatafixed -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC) updated comment --Basile Morin (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
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- For the unedited version ... yes, Sorry Basile Morin. You are right. The tint +32 came from the last edit of the processed image and wasn´t set back to zero in the virtual copy in Lightroom. I fixed this together with the color space for this image as well. Snowmanstudios (talk) 12:42, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Fixed but currently not yet uploaded? Should we conclude that the file named "File:Ethiopia - Lake Assale (raw image, no editing).jpg" is actually an edited version with a misleading name? If so, it is important to fix this error as soon as possible by uploading an update, in my opinion, or to delete the wrong file. We can't claim that "it is a natural tint" while the purple hue we see was rather blue at the origin -- Basile Morin (talk) 14:14, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, Snowmanstudios! My emotion is honestly higher with the natural colors coming from the original picture. Then I would support a version based on this shot. The purple tint adds nothing in my view, and I regret it even spoils a bit the realistic aspect of this beautiful scenery. -- Basile Morin (talk) 23:33, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This sentence: "Copying, duplicating, saving as a digital file, printing, publishing in form of media including web, manipulating, transmitting or reproducing without the prior written permission of Thomas Fuhrmann is strictly forbidden and would constitute a breach of copyright." is refuting the terms of the current license CC4.0 and should be removed from the metadata exif -- Basile Morin (talk) 00:49, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support It is a long exposure photo (25 sec.). Probably made with a gray filter. Then you consciously get different colors and it becomes more like a painting and not an exact print of reality.--Famberhorst (talk) 05:22, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 09:01, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Beautiful. And, to my eye, the colours look perfectly attainable. Lighting can change drastically, depending on atmospheric conditions, the angle of the camera towards the sun, and the sun's elevation, so comparing this image with others of the same location doesn't tell much (e.g., this and this were shot at the same location within less than 5 minutes). The camera's white balance setting and the Raw processor demosaicing algorithm will further influence colours, making it very hard for anyone but the photographer to assess if the resulting image is faithful to what his eyes are seeing. In a nutshell: are these colours possible? Yes. Were they like that when the image was taken? If Snowmanstudios asserts they were, then they were. Does it really matter? Not for me, but I understand why others think differently. --Julesvernex2 (talk) 10:29, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Great capture that deserves a support. The suggestion to update the misleading hint about color profiles is very constructive, in my opinion. -- Radomianin (talk) 12:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Huge thanks again for all your supporting votes and positive vibes. Snowmanstudios (talk) 12:47, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- As requested, can you upload RAW file, though it seems that proves nothing if filters were used. In photo competitions (which this sort of is) I guess that the use of filters would normally be disclosed? Charlesjsharp (talk) 16:16, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support per Julesvernex2. --Aristeas (talk) 14:36, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Yann (talk) 11:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support Nice, and per Aristeas Poco a poco (talk) 17:37, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
- Neutral, as file has been nominated for deletion. Daniel Case (talk) 04:48, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thomas obviously wants his photos to be on Commons, so I assume the licensing phrasing issues will be worked out. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:16, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Tournasol7 (talk) 06:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 13:14, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support IMO, colors are OK. 😄 ArionEstar 😜 12:27, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:20, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Places/Natural#Ethiopia