User talk:Zhuyifei1999/Archive 44

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Flickr reviews stacking up

since 10 hours ago.--Roy17 (talk) 03:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


There has been no review since yesterday evening, that is for at least 13 hours. Please repair. Thank you, Edelseider (talk) 07:57, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

I moved the job to stretch yesterday, now it can't find 'libmariadb.so.2'. I'm looking into it. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
I made it no longer import database stuffs, and it;s now running. Not a long term fix considering my other bots are still dependent on it. phab:T213646 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 09:30, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-03

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Recent changes

  • You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool. [1][2]
  • You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
  • Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text. [3][4]
  • Advanced item Templates with <templatestyles> could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. <templatestyles> has a new wrapper parameter now. You can use it for selectors like .mw-parser-output <wrapper parameter value> <selector from CSS page>. [5]

Problems

  • When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed. [6]

Changes later this week

  • You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
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  • Advanced item The AbuseFilter variable minor_edit has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15 17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Autopatrolled users will get Flickr import with UL

This is probably relevant for you as the operator of User:FlickreviewR 2. Can you alter the bot to also handle {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}} tags? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 14:43, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying. I think making UW tag {{Flickreview}} makes more sense than letting the bot handle {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}}, given that there are currently tens of thousands of files tagged with the latter and it doesn't make much sense to re-process them. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I think the Phabricatorians are planning to give Commons a hard time regarding this. The bot presumably finds files to be reviewed by checking Category:Flickr review needed, right? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
There are only 65,762 files that use {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}}. I'd say let the bot process them. Most files will probably pass without issues, which is good, because they were never checked with a server side solution. Some will be caught because the Flickr user is on the bad-authors list, which UploadWizard never checked for. That'll be good, actually, those files need to be examined anyway. Some will not be found on Flickr, for those files {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}} should be changed to {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard-deprecated}} (which for now could just be a redirect to {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}}). When the run completes, we'll have no more files with FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard and FlickreviewR can start processing new uploads with the template. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:59, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
UW does check against bad authors list since phab:T44307.
I still do not think the bot should re-check {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}}. If UW wants the bot to perform a re-check, use {{Flickreview}} instead.
And 65,762 (yes, tens of thousands) files is a lot. The bot reviews about one image every two seconds, so that would be 1.5 days of downtime just to process these files. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:14, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I also do not think "Phabricatorians" will give us a hard time; I think I am a "Phabricatorians" myself. Since you already have a patch, why not just upload it to gerrit? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
1. I don't know how. (yes, I could learn..)
2. The patch may not be desirable for MediaWiki in general. I don't know how it could be applied specifically to Commons.
You're right about the blacklist. I must be confused with something else. Just blindly replacing {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}} with {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard-deprecated}} is something I could do even with VFC. That would also allow FlickreviewR to start processing {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}}. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
What is your email address? I will upload a patch for you but I need your email to credit you.
I am unaware of any third party sites that utilizes UW's upload from flickr's functionality, but yes that does not rule out their possible existence. If you feel like this template deprecation is really the best way to go (which I don't), I can make the bot review these tags iff {{FlickrVerifiedByUploadWizard}} redirects to {{Flickreview}}. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
My spam levels just went down a bit.. No attribution required. I added a public domain statement to phab:T89131#4888176, is that enough? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 20:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
I don't feel it right to submit someone else's patch without 'setting the patch author'. So no. Whether it's Public Domain or nor is just a legal thing, and we aren't lawyers. Just... I need some email address to submit the patch with, okay? even if the address is not-email-able, it's still better than nothing. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 22:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
alexis@jazz.camp - Alexis Jazz ping plz 23:27, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard/+/485141 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks! Now that I think about it: mw.FlickrChecker.js considers all Commons-incompatible licenses (noncommercial etc) as "invalid". This makes no sense for third party sites, so the file was already tailored to Commons. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 07:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Category:RCE suggested: Accomodatie

@Zhuyifei1999: there is a typo in the title, it should read Category:RCE suggested: Accommodatie. (accommodatie) Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 15:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Moved the category and all the files. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 15:46, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Is the Embedded Data Bot down?

There have been no new entries in the log since 13th January. --jdx Re: 06:40, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Apparently I didn't install a module for OAuth; now installed and restarted. Let's see if that works --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 12:22, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
@Jdx: I'm getting other weird issues in the logs, like ValueError: time data '2015-04-30T17:53:47Z' does not match format '%Y%m%d%H%M%S' (why would the timestamp be from 4 years ago, and in a wrong format). How useful is bot currently with WP0 gone? I'm thinking of shutting it down if it's not useful anymore. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:34, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Actually not so much. Files with embedded archives happen once–twice a month. Recently I have been used the bot mostly for cleaning photos taken with Android, usually Samsung, phones, i.e. the bot has been tagging such files and I cleaned them manually using jpegtran. It reduces their size about 50–75%. Such files happen 2–3 times a day. --jdx Re: 18:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
So shall I just shut it down? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 20:05, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
OK, do it. A bit less work for me. :-) --jdx Re: 20:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04

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Tech News

  • Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta. [8]

Recent changes

  • The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category Pages with unreviewed translations to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in Special:TrackingCategories on Wikipedias.
  • https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems

  • When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed. [9]
  • MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone. [10][11]
  • Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed. [12]

Changes later this week

  • You will be able to use template styles in the Module namespace. [13]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

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20:36, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

flickr review suggestion

Hi! I suggest the bot should check the licence first and sizes later. See File:Halong Bay sky.jpg. It's ND and could be rejected straight, but marked for human review instead.--Roy17 (talk) 18:01, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

✓ Done https://tools.wmflabs.org/yifeibot/gitweb/?p=botscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=1812b5033743d8f0d9ed064ec03aabc1f8cfca1a I think this will work. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
I re-filtered CAT:FLICKR and it caught quite a few violations. Unfortunately, some of the files are from months / years ago. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Nice work! I'm seeing the results in my feed, and making some fixes. Here's one case the bot should watch for: when a file has been cropped/extracted from another file that's on Commons. This one should not be flagged, given that the source file on Commons is OK. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 18:20, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
It cannot check for crops. The code to do this is outside by ability (unimaginably complex) --Zhuyifei1999 (talk)
If hastemplate:"extracted from" is true del flickrreview? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 03:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
No, a bot should not 'refuse' an instruction. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
In that case perhaps the bot could add a maintenance category like Category:Review requested for extracted image as these may not require a license reviewer if the source has a review. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 04:00, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
w:feature creep, imo. Feel free to make another bot/query/maintenance page/whatever that does this or something similar. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 04:08, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
I have an unrelated suggestion. See [14]. When the bot detects passed_changed, could it check if the file happens to be in Category:Files with no machine-readable license? And in that case, add the license and pass the file without warning? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 18:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
I think I could go with the more traditional {{License template tag}}. Will do tonight. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 19:44, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
✓ Done Special:Diff/336463095 https://tools.wmflabs.org/yifeibot/gitweb/?p=botscripts.git;a=commitdiff;h=4eb7f2a04b3a6406709ad113fac366b69f78e353 --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:47, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

File:Juan Guaidó restored version.jpg

File:Juan Guaidó restored version.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Tech News: 2019-05

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Problems

  • When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed. [15]

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  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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18:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

SIGN ADVICE

Hello thank you for the advice about sign every message in wikipedia. best regard --CLAIREYUAN2010 (talk) 10:20, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-06

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  • It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed. [16]
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17:11, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Charles Moulin

Hallo. Please, I would like to inform you that there are two different people with the same name Charles Moulin, a painter and an actor. Thank you very much and best wishes. --Antonella (talk) 14:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

@Antonella Nigro: Which edit is this about? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 14:35, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, Zhuyifei1999. I apologize. It seemed to me that there was a mistake in the use of category, but it's ok. Thank you very much for your reply. All the best. --Antonella (talk) 23:34, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

FlickreviewR

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:02_Jaros%C5%82aw_Kaczy%C5%84ski_i_Beata_Szyd%C5%82o_podczas_6_rocznicy_tragedii_smole%C5%84skiej.jpg&diff=331990101&oldid=331990071

Could this be automatically accepted as PD? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 21:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Actually I'm slightly confused now what {{Polish KPRM files}} even entails..
You changed your mind? --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 21:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
No, I'm simply confused whether {{Polish KPRM files}} even is a PD template. Or just.. what kind of license it even is. It seems to get combined with {{PD-author}}. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:50, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
If far as I know, it's not a PD template. It's just a tag. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 01:54, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's even valid. I thought for a moment it was one of those PD-government tags, but it's not. So nothing the bot could handle. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 02:18, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
Another thing: list for Flickr accounts that require an additional human review. Am I right when thinking that is technically possible? - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:42, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
I think that's do-able, technically. Whether it should be done I'll leave it to the proposal --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:35, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Glitch?

I cropped this this and got this. I also cropped this and got this. Are these in danger of being deleted? Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 17:20, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

No. You should not add {{Flickreview}} if it's derived from a file on Commons. Also, use internal links for sources in that case. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. I must be ignorant, I don't understand. I followed a "wizard" and don't know what a {{Flickreview}} is. I entered the URL of the original on Commons, should I have started with "File" instead of the whole "http.." link?
Sorry to be a pain. I had an actual glitch a while ago, I had to go somewhere with code geeks. I'm not sure if I need that again, probably just my process? I clicked the wrong thing?
Again, thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 18:34, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
@Sammy D III: please use COM:Croptool (best in "lossless mode") to avoid future issues. Croptool will take care of everything for you. Your crop is also in a less than optimal format, another issue you don't have to worry about if you use croptool. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 19:40, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
I have it. Thank you. Sammy D III (talk) 22:00, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
@Sammy D III: Very good. Some advice: most crops are best uploaded as a new file. For a minor crop you could use the overwrite option. COM:Overwrite has some guidelines on this, but when in doubt, upload as a new file. File:DF7G-5036 20111004.jpg for example is better uploaded as a new file. (I just did that one) - Alexis Jazz ping plz 00:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Darn! My first try was an "oops". I didn't realize it defaulted to overwrite, I know better than that. I fixed another and will re-check the rest tomorrow (I think I got them correct). Thanks for your time. Sammy D III (talk) 03:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-07

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  • You can use the ambox CSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you use ambox there are classes you can use.

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18:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08

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  • When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident. [17]

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

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  • There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback. [18]

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23:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09

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  • When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown. [20]
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Future changes

  • The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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21:16, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10

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  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar).

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  • Recurrent item Advanced item You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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  • You can give feedback on the future of talk pages.
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16:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)


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