User talk:Alexis Jazz

If you are planning on sending me threats, please, check your spelling first. At least put in the effort, okay?

Some YouTube channels with Creative Commons content that Commons isn't using much from:

• The Scottish Parliament from ScottishParl
• World Poker Tour from TheWPT (note: not every video is CC)

Why don't you take some screenshots, import whole videos by downloading them with https://en.savefrom.net/ and import using video2commons, etc? Don't forget to tag your uploads with {{Licensereview}}! If you need help, just ask me! (or the folks at the helpdesk or village pump)

User template mods

Hi Jazz! Hope this finds you warm and well. I would like to modify my user template after seeing another users template and I would be "jazzed" :) if I could get your assistance once again. Dietmar Rabich has a detailed series of notations that I would like to replicate, if you care to check it out. Thank you in advance for your assistance. --Don (talk) 17:46, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

WPPilot, I suggest you copy Template:Don Ramey Logan credits to Template:Don Ramey Logan credits/sandbox and just try things out. My indef block has been lifted, but I'm not really active here anymore. One more note: IIRC we mailed some time ago, but I can't find those conversations anymore and can't remember what I told you exactly. You just mentioned me on Commons:Village pump/Copyright (revision 827947362) and I wanted to say that, IIRC, your case is/was complicated and probably not hinging on the Creative Commons license at all. So I wouldn't recommend using it as an example of Facebook not respecting Creative Commons. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 18:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz Thanks for the suggestions, I have done just that. I was unaware of an indef but glad you were able to get it lifted, I rarely even comment here anymore preferring to simply contribute pretty pictures.. I think there is duplicity in the comments, and I agree the scrapping issue has little to do with a city posting on FB, nevertheless what little I can share of my personal experiences with the host might be useful to others at some point.--Don (talk) 18:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

So I made some headway but am rather rusty on code. Care to give me a hand or suggest a nice code user that can help? Don (talk) 06:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

WPPilot, I don't know, just try a village pump I guess. I need a wikibreak, not more work right now. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 00:36, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

I understand that.
I thought you might get a kick out of these numbers: we assume the 10,000,000 pages receive views evenly throughout the year, and the average lifespan of a post on "platform" is 5 days, then we can estimate the total views per day as follows: Total views per day = Number of pages * Average views per page * Average lifespan of a post * 365 Total views per day = 10,000,000 * 100 * 5 Total views per day = 500,000,000 The total views per year: 182,500,000,000 just for me :) wow. Enjoy your break. Cheers!--Don (talk) 08:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

WPPilot, you got mail. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 14:05, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

You have a reply. Don (talk) 19:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

WPPilot, thank you so much.
I found a minute to look at your template. Your mailto: link isn't working, I fixed it in your sandbox. You can also put the extra text in the note2 parameter, which I also did in your sandbox, this is a matter of personal preference of course. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 14:35, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz thank you, I applied it to the template and have a question about how it displays. Looking at my last upload, File:The Avalon Pier at Night by Don Ramey Logan.jpg - Wikimedia Commons it shows the second CC "box" under the new text block. This is not in the template, and I see no call to it in the original code on the page. How do we make that, go away? Don (talk) 15:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

WPPilot, you mean below "No use in social media with incompatible license!"? That's {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} which has to stay as {{Not public domain}} isn't a license tag. Or do you mean something else? - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 16:32, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I just feel he need after everything to note that directly. Don (talk) 20:15, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

File:Man on bench - duane hanson.jpg

File:Man on bench - duane hanson.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

19h00s (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

File:İD bayrağı ile bir militan.jpg

File:İD bayrağı ile bir militan.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Viii23dawari (talk) 10:22, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Gelukkig nieuwjaar

Moge het nieuwe jaar jou en al jouw geliefden veel voorspoed brengen. 🥳👍🏻 --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:28, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Factotum fucks up titles on mobile

• phab:T355746

Please see the above link 🔗. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:23, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Update request

Hello.

Can you remove the dashed lines within Azerbaijan in File:EU Member states and Candidate countries map.svg, because all of Nagorno-Karabakh was taken over by Azerbaijan in late September/early October 2023 and the de facto Nagorno-Karabakh ceased to exist?

Yours sincerely, 31.200.16.100 12:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, not my field of expertise. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 13:37, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Black titles

Before I go to the Phabricator to report this as an issue with the MediaWiki software, is it Factotum that turns hyperlinks to pages I've already visited black or is this one of the "improvements" by the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) again? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 11:16, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Where is this happening? - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 19:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

It seems to be fixed now. I only had it yesterday, I doubt that it has anything to do with location, but as I'm in the Philippines now for a couple of months I have a much slower internet connection. I'm not sure if that's related, as oftentimes I have to click "Publish" several times and get errors before I can post anything. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 23:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Donald Trung, were the black or black and bold? Were they clickable? Black and bold are links to the current page. Otherwise I have no clue. Take a screenshot if it happens again. But a flaky internet connection could maybe play a role, if some CSS fails to load because of it. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 03:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Unclicked links were blue, previously visited links were black like the text, they weren't bold and were invisible to me unless I knew where to click (the hyperlinks themselves still functioned normally). Perhaps this was just an issue with the MediaWiki software and it got quickly fixed. Anyhow, I know that Factotum wasn't to blame for this. Thank you for your time. -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:24, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Old MediaWiki Upload Wizard

Hello Alexis Jazz,

I wanted to ask you this last year but forgot. As you're quite technical, is it possible to re-create the old MediaWiki Upload Wizard from before December 2023 and let users upload using that one?

I'm not sure if you've seen the new MediaWiki Upload Wizard, but the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) sees it as their holy mission to prevent admin backlogs from forming so they want to make basic uploads as tedious as possible by constantly having to click that the file you're uploading is not a selfie 🤳🏻 or a logo and a lot of extra steps were introduced. My guess is that among the unintended consequences of this is that we'll get less new contributors.

The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) also explained that as of now they're not looking to improve the experience for uploaders and only for admins dealing with backlogs (which seems to be the only thing they care about, almost all new tools and proposals coming from them is how to maximally exclude people and introduce new ban hammers). At least when they introduced the MediaWiki Upload Wizard they allowed people to still use the old upload form, but now you can only use the new "improved" version.

So, is it possible to somehow retrieve the old MediaWiki Upload Wizard and turn it into a forked tool and call it something like "Special:MediaWiki Upload Wizard (pre-December 2023)" or something? --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 05:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Donald Trung, good question. I haven't uploaded anything recently.
You could retrieve an old version of UploadWizard, here. See also mw:Extension:UploadWizard. But it's an extension (as opposed to a gadget), so just forking it on-wiki is anywhere from pretty difficult to impossible. And you couldn't maintain it, so it would break sooner or later.
Realistically, you could make a gadget that improves the current UploadWizard somehow. Or create your own UploadWizard gadget from scratch. Or use an alternative, like the Commons app or Commons:Upload tools.
While I haven't used the current version of the UploadWizard (I haven't uploaded much recently), what you're talking about doesn't sound too bad. I wrote Commons:Upload Wizard proposals a long time ago, it sounds like they implemented some of that. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 20:07, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

I just cannot stress enough how little the new "improvements" resemble your proposals. In fact, the only actual implementations that the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) added that I would consider to be improvements are for artificial intelligence-made files. For more context on these changes please see "Commons talk:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements". The only goal is "to reduce admin backlog", that is all the changes are deliberately made to be a pain in the ass of uploaders in the hopes that admins will have less work to do. Even the admins can see the unintended consequences that WMF staff cannot.

In short, they basically just added a bunch of extra steps to the MediaWiki Upload Wizard, while this isn't a bad thing per se but the way they've implemented it is just outright horrible. I've noticed a trend where the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) takes what ARH's ("Advanced Rights Holders') say serious and just ignore whatever anyone else has to say. For example, I brought up the same issues as the admin above did but I was ignored. Interestingly enough, I independently came up with a similar system for the MediaWiki Upload Wizard, but this was immediately dismissed.

My main issue with the changes aren't just the fact that they added completely unnecessary clicks, but that the wording of those options outright contradict policy. If it's your own work you can select:

• 3. Please select the option that best describes the purpose of this work.
  • ✅ This work provides knowledge, instructions, or information to others.
  • ❎ This work is for my personal use e.g. photos of myself, my family or friends, or I am required to upload it for my job.

A small number of personal files are allowed per "COM:SELFIE" 🤳🏻, but the wording claims that no selfies ever are allowed. You're also not to upload anything related to your job, this means that WMF staff cannot upload anything either, or do they now have to lie every time they upload? Now imagine you're an employee at a GLAM institution and you see this message, you were tasked with digitising important works online and your museum chose the Wikimedia Commons, you see this message and ask your supervisor, (s)he then says "guess they've changed their policy, best not to upload here".

When you upload a work that isn't yours you get:

• 4. Please confirm the following statement before proceeding.
  • ✅ I confirm that this work does not include material restricted by copyright, such as logos, posters, album covers, etc.

Note that you already added the license and had multiple steps confirming the free nature of the file(s) concerned, now you get an extra mandatory step which can confuse people into thinking that all logos, posters, album covers, etc. are still restricted by copyright ©️, it doesn't leave room for the concept of a "{{PD-textlogo}}". The Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) is very clear that their only goal is to reduce bad uploads, but I think that spammers won't care and that genuine good faith contributors will be scared away.

I'm going to draft and propose a new Tutorial Upload Wizard and I'll incorporate some of your proposals into it as well. None of the extra steps introduced actually offer any helpful guide or anything to uploaders, they're just designed to scare potential spammers off.

Another important difference is that before "I found it on the internet" or "I am not sure" simply nominated the upload for review and automated deletion, now it just straight up tells you that you cannot under any circumstances upload the file. They just added more filters, there's barely any more explanation, and the filters they added often have texts that contradict actual rules and policies. I would rather see the creation of a tutorial programme that can teach people how copyright ©️ works rather than the shortsighted "improvements" that were recently added.

Bad uploads are often a knowledge issue, most people upload in good faith and simply don't understand how laws work, by explaining it to them step-by-step in an easy to understand method we could level the learning curve. I think that if we keep going on this path of increasing the learning curve by outright peddling disinformation that we'll just end up with less people and less new contributors may mean less admin backlog but I don't think that a shrinking community is a price worth paying. My proposed tutorial will be so easy that it will teach the intricacies of copyright ©️, Freedom of Panorama (FoP), de minimis, the threshold of originality (TOO), to literally anyone. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 17:27, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Donald Trung, I just uploaded some files. Didn't have any problem with this, maybe it's worse on mobile? The COM:SELFIE thing doesn't seem to prevent uploading (at least I could still press next) so only the warning wording needs adjustment, which can probably be adjusted locally. And it doesn't say you can't upload work-related files, only if your job requires uploading files you have a problem. Given COM:PAID that isn't always an issue either. The question needs to be read the right way: uploading the logo of the notable company that you work for or a photo you took of the HQ provides knowledge/information to others. It's difficult to distinguish this from a click farm that uploads spam. I didn't see question 4. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 07:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

People who work for the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) or any Wikimedia affiliate organisation technically have jobs that require them to upload stuff for their work. Of course, "COM:PAID" would be better to link than the vague text, but these are just extra boxes to tick whenever you upload. If you only upload once in a while it's not annoying, but if you upload hundreds of files these boxes are quite annoying. The question listed as "4." (Four) appears only when you click the "This file is not my own work" box, this seems like a way of sneaking in "Commons:Watermarks" despite community consensus against it. Though it specifically mentions logos, my main issue is that you have to tick this box after you've already established that a file is free to use. It's just an extra click designed to make people question their uploads after they've already filled in all the relevant information.
My main issue is that novice users get the wrong impression of what is and isn't allowed to be uploaded here, kind of how the "Wikimedia Commons app" claims that you can only upload files that are your own work (at least when I last used it several years ago), it explicitly claimed that anything that wasn't your own work wasn't allowed, kind of implying that the Mona Lisa wouldn't be allowed here because it's not your "Own work".
Instead of actually trying to educate novice users on what is and isn't allowed the only "solutions" people ever seem to come up with is tonnes of warning ⚠️ templates and broad discouragements. Writing actual simple to understand guides on how FoP, de minimis, the TOO, Etc. works would be way better than these "solutions". -- — Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 16:44, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Fixed, not fixed

Excuse me for writing to you here, but I don't get any notifications at the English-language Wikipedia so you can ping me here. Anyhow, the Factotum title display issue was fixed earlier but has since returned. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:37, 2 March 2024 (UTC)