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Hello, Tomwsulcer!
Tip: Add categories to your files
Tip: Add categories to your files

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]
[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

BotMultichillT 06:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear BotMultichillT, I added categories using the "Common Sense" tool as of Oct 22, 2009.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:08, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
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--Secret (talk) 21:55, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

OK go ahead and delete it. I got feedback via email that it wasn't allowed. I didn't know that; I still get very confused about copyright stuff since I'm not a lawyer. I didn't know if it was acceptable or not because it's a newspaper. Sorry about the fuss.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:16, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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Okki (talk) 19:55, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello Tomwsulcer,


In fact it is not just a question of making money or not with this picture, the point is that Wikimedia commons can only accepted free content, that is, images and other media files that can be used by anyone, anytime, for any purpose.


For the case that we are interested in, it may be possible to fix the license problem, but you should be aware that the current holder of the copyright is unlikely to be Dr. Benjamin Ginsberg, here it seems that it is the Johns Hopkins University. As you can see on this page, the picture has been used by the university on a website under copyright, this is a strong indication that the university hold the copyright on the picture.


To be remained on wikimedia commons, the picture should be correctly licensed, for this purpose, we need that a representative of the current copyright holder (Johns Hopkins University) e-mailed to permissions-commons-at-wikimedia.org a clear statement of permission, including image informations as origin and copyright license. You can found more explanation here.

sincerely, --Chandres (talk) 20:39, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Nonsense fuss

I realize you've figured out the technicalities, but you're missing the bigger picture. So what if Johns Hopkins "owns" the rights to the picture. It's in the university's interest to promote their professors; Dr. Ginsberg is a star professor; and having their star professor appear on Wikipedia would clearly be to Johns Hopkins best interests. Did Johns Hopkins complain about the picture on the Commons? I surely doubt they would ever complain. Johns Hopkins TOOK the picture to promote their professor. And it's not like this is some hot tabloid photo revealing some celebrity indiscretion or boobflash; it's a picture of a professor. While you have technicality and rules in your favor to do what you want here, in a larger sense, you're not helping, but making lots of nonsense work for everybody, including me, as well as yourself, as well as Dr. Ginsberg (who instead of focusing on political science will probably have to fuss with university people about permissions), as well as JHU people who'd rather not be bothered. Please use judgment. Avoir un bon jour.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:51, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

You should realize that today there is 5,642,768 files on Commons! You really think that it's possible to maintained such a database without taking care of the copyright holder of the files? So please stop thinking that we doesn't want the picture here, it's all the opposite, Commons is always looking for good quality pictures to ilustrate articles on the wikipedia from every language. You can't imagine how much pictures we have to delete because copyright holders doesn't take the time, of have no patience, to correctly upload and license the picture. You also should keep in mind that we haven't the law in our favor, we have to respect the laws, it is very different.
It seems that you know Dr Ginsberg, so if you think it will be hard to get permissions from the university, I will encourage you to take your own picture of Dr Ginsberg and uploading it on Commons, without forgeting to send the appropriate e-mail to commons.
If Dr Ginsberg absolutely want these picture to be present on wikipedia, you have to get the autorisation from the university, there is no possible alternative.
I'm really sorry for you, I understand perfectly your position as I am in the same situation with my own university and a lot of pictures I cannot upload on commons without autorization of legal department. --Chandres (talk) 21:34, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I've deleted this image as being clearly outside Commons' project scope; specifically, it was "self-created artwork without obvious educational use." Personal artwork depicting one's own editorial views is not within Commons' mission. Fran Rogers (talk) 07:29, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

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Sven Manguard (talk) 07:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)


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Postdlf (talk) 05:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I took the picture of a board. The board had pictures of public officials. So, the problem is what -- that the original photographers have a copyright (one for each picture?) possibly, so therefore my picture can't be used? Is that the reasoning? Sorry, these issues as you know are quite complex. I had not meant to do anything wrong, but I just figured that it was in public. Let me know if my understanding of the reasoning is correct. At this point, sometimes it seems like the only thing I can photograph and post is an in-depth look at my own navel (or does God own the copyright?). :) --Tomwsulcer (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, the original photographers have a copyright. A photograph of a photograph is a copy of that photograph (fancy word: derivative, meaning it copies the other work but adds to it in some way, such as your photograph of the display of all these photographs). The only way around that (in the U.S. at least) is basically if the photographs just happened to be in the background, to qualify as de minimis use. An example would be if you took a picture of a street and a picture on a sign or on an advertisement is incidentally part of the scene (hard not to do that in Times Square). But here, the photographs were clearly the focus of the picture and your reason for taking it and posting it. Sorry. Postdlf (talk) 14:34, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your explanation. It's not your fault. I should have known. Sorry about the fuss. These copyright rules confuse me to no end, but I think over time that I'm getting better at learning how it works, so I appreciate your taking the time here to teach me this stuff. So, what I'm getting is these are the types of pictures I'm allowed:--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
  1. public buildings
  2. landscapes, nature scenes, streets, paths, parks (eg no people)
  3. crowd scenes only if no recognizable faces (or de minimus)
  4. portrait of a person if I have their permission (and can prove it)
  5. diagrams I create (but should use png not jpg format)
  6. appliances, technological gadgets (but try to remove brand names)
  7. pictures of myself
  8. landmarks
  9. photos of paintings IF copyright expired (eg before 1923 etc)
  10. derivatives okay IF copyright expired or public domain declared
But other than that, no good. And I bet this isn't comprehensive by any means, that exceptions and other cases will present themselves. Like, a picture of a picture, or a picture of a painting, won't work, since the original work may have a copyright. I hope I'm getting this stuff right.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:06, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
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CutOffTies (talk) 16:38, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

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If you add another a joke image because "it was fun while it lasted for a day or so and Wikipedians are entitled to some of this, aren't we?", I will make sure an admin knows and do my best to get your editing privileges revoked. Do not waste our time again and do not use an encyclopedia for your jokes. --CutOffTies (talk) 10:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

If you go through life with your attitude you'll find yourself eating yer lunch all by yerself. There are times and places to be serious, and there are times and places when the absurdity of the world is such that you can only stay sane by poking fun at it. You need both in proper measure. This was a harmless dabble. Remember we are unpaid volunteers, contributing our time and effort without pay; in addition to my contributions, I volunteer on the basis of editing for donations, helping Wikimedia raise valuable funds for numerous projects. In total, looking at the value of all of my contributions to Wikipedia and Wikimedia, one could argue conservatively that I've contributed tens of thousands of dollars of my time here, free of charge -- that is, to get someone of my caliber to contribute would cost this and much more. There are all kinds of benefits to humor -- helps us relieve tension -- helps us learn things -- helps us understand the absurdity -- and if you only see what I did as a "joke image" you're missing the beauty of the experience here. Didn't you learn anything too? Aren't you better off for it? Was it only a waste of your time? If the only benefit of my occasional humor is to help you smile a bit and to not take live so seriously all the time, then it would have been worth it. And I'm sure I could persuade dozens of admins that your contributions here, while important too, sure have a sour taste to them, and surely they won't enjoy working with sourpusses like yourself. Lighten up.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:04, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
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CutOffTies (talk) 01:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

OTRS

Hey Tom, I'm about to head out the door, but I thought I'd drop you a quick note before I leave. In cases where you are uploading photos that you didn't take yourself and the copyright hasn't expired, it is generally expected that you send a permissions email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org so that other editors can verify that you do, in fact, have permission to upload the files. The minimum requirement for such an email is that the copyright holder identifies the image in question and declares that they release it under a specific free license (like Creative Commons Attribution or Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike). If several images are by the same author you can usually take care of all of them in one email. (Unfortunately, it is not adequate for the author to simply state that they give you permission to use the image on Wikimedia or Commons.) Some people find the following email template helpful for accomplishing this Commons:Email templates. On the issue of getting permission from the subject of the photo, it depends on the jurisdiction. I believe in the U.S. it is not necessary to get the subject's permission as long as they were in a public space when the photograph was taken. Hope that helps. If you need more guidance, I would suggest posting a note to Commons talk:Licensing. Good luck. Kaldari (talk) 02:45, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Kaldari. I'll get about getting the permissions sent. Wondering if the pictures above might be held until I have time to get the permissions done?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 02:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


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No permission

Since an admin thought this was more appropriate, I removed the speedy deletion templates from the files in question and replaced them with no permission. You can view the files for more information.

As for your accusations of harassment - it is common to examine a user's body of edits after they have committed vandalism. Fortunately, these edits are not vandalism and I realize you were acting in good faith. However, anyone familiar at all with the copyright guidelines here know that you can't just claim that so and so gave you permission. Otherwise, why do we have these procedures in place to begin with? Now please stop the communication with me and if you want to take care of your files, go ahead. This is about following the policies here; please don't turn it into something else --CutOffTies (talk) 12:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I feel you are harassing me, accusing me of vandalism above which I heartily dispute. The pictures which were uploaded were all done in the spirit of Wikimedia since I knew the people in them, or who took them, fully consented to having them here, but I'll agree that I perhaps need to do more to get explicit emailed permission, which I am in the process of doing, that is, and do things according to the letter of Wikimedia in terms of emailed permissions and such. I feel that your targeting of my past contributions is not a routine investigation like you claim, but that you were particularly irked by the Paul Revere - Sarah Palin cartoon (see above), and have used this as an excuse to target my past contributions. Please understand the rules and procedures for uploading pictures are complex -- the OTRS system is particularly difficult for most people to navigate -- confusing forms -- unclear instructions -- which baffle many and which I still don't fully understand after trying on and off for quite some time. And it's possible for people like you to use your knowledge of the rules to push people like me around -- bullying is what I'd call it -- and I'm going to call attention to this everywhere I can. When I try to comment on your talk page, you erase my comments and call them harassment. What kind of cooperative spirit is that? Another example: rather than add a "permission needed" tag, or help me on how to put an "OTRS pending" template on (where is that?), you chose numerous pictures for "speedy deletion." I am trying to contribute constructively, but I feel like I'm being treated by a petty bureaucrat who is using their knowledge of details on some kind of vendetta project of yours.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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The best thing to do, in the case of the "x person emailed me saying it was okay," is to forward said email to the OTRS team, which will prove to them permission has been given. The procedure is there. Looking up, it looks like you're aware of this, and yes, it can be a bit complex, but it's absolutely required. We simply cannot take it on face value that you have received permission from the various copyright holders, any more than we would take edits on Wikipedia at face value without sourcing. As for the harassment charge, I just got here, and have not examined things deeply enough to be able to say, but I do agree with CutOffTies on one front - when I find one issue I perceive as a violation, I tend to take a quick look through the other contributions to see if there are others. That's not harassment, it's due diligence. --Golbez (talk) 16:30, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Golbez. I hadn't known about the forwarding to OTRS idea -- that's a big time-saver. I'll try to do that from now on. I hadn't known. But I still feel like I'm being harassed, since I've been uploading pictures in good faith for quite some time; nobody alerted me that I needed to do OTRS, or how to do it, or what the procedures were. So I figured that I had the procedures down pat. I did come across the OTRS page a while back and my eyes watered over -- it's quite confusing -- templates -- even the initials OTRS seem intimidating. So it was a bit of a surprise that see, on my talk page, about twenty pictures slated for deletion -- and this came a few days after the whole Sarah Palin - Paul Revere brouhaha. So I feel like I'm being punished selectively as a result. The tone of the messages was imperious and insulting -- I was called a vandal, and was not treated with any fair measure of deference or respect and I wasn't offered help about how to do it properly; rather, numerous pictures (many of which I do not have on my watchlist) have been put up for deletion using speedy delete, not something milder such as please forward a permission. It takes quite a bit of time to upload even one picture -- perhaps 5 minutes or so -- and it takes only a few seconds to hit the delete key. What I'm saying is this kind of treatment is against the spirit of Wikimedia, particularly towards a volunteer who has raised substantial cash for the project while volunteering my time. My concern is now that pictures that I've uploaded in the past, that are not on my watchlist, are being deleted without my knowledge, and it's like a lot of my volunteer work (which helps everybody) is being undone with the click of a mouse.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
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Hey. Basically, permission to use the image on Wikipedia is not enough. Images need to be released into the public domain or under a free license; normally, I recommend Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0. The permission for the release needs to be given by the copyright holder; this is normally the photographer, or their employee. Once you have such a release, it should be forwarded to the OTRS address with a note about where you have uploaded the image. Does this answer your query? J Milburn (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thank you for your response. And in future, I'll try to use the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 one more; in the past, I just picked one (2.5 I think) because the wording is so confusing to me. Thanx! And I can upload a picture but I have to put the OTRS pending thingie somewhere which I'll probably figure out how to do soon.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:26, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
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I've marked it as OTRS pending, but you have to send the permission to OTRS, they have not accepted your statement in the file as proof. :-\ -- Darwin Ahoy! 05:44, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh, yes, sorry about this; I've been learning the new rules about how to do the OTRS. So I'll send an email to this lady and hopefully she forwards it on to the right people. Sorry, hopefully the OTRS thingie will get to you soon.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Update: I just emailed Houlding. It's up to her to email you, or get the photographer (if there was one) to forward the email. Such fuss we all have to go thru because these copyright rules are so complex.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:26, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
I absolutely agree with you and even ranted with the OTRS staff about this very situation, but it seems they have good reasons to follow all that bureaucracy and are inflexible at that. If you have the original mail the author sent you, you may forward it to the OTRS, sometimes it is enough.-- Darwin Ahoy! 08:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, thanks. Looks like Houlding forwarded the email so the picture will stick. And, it's just the world we live in -- complex -- it's nobody's fault -- just how things are. And I respect everybody's contributions here, even when they're sometimes telling me they have to delete something, because they're just following the rules like all of us are trying to. But the result is something quite amazing, isn't it? This crazy wonderful amazing encyclopedia? Like a great place to learn stuff. Nothing before like it, ever, anywhere, like even in the 14 billion years since the universe began. And information and knowledge continues to accelerate.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
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I sent the email to Sirota, but apparently it wasn't forwarded or was lost in the sauce. I'll try again but otherwise I understand.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

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The guy who took the picture is a Facebook acquaintance, and it is too much fuss for me to get him to send in the darn permission email. I sent him an email to forward to Commons, and apparently he has not done this. I do not care that much about this photo. And the picture is not that valuable on the Lake Keowee article. So, please delete it; sorry about the fuss.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 00:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

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Use this link Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard to inquire about KM photos.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:17, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

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RIT

Tom, nice pics of RIT. If you get the chance, I suggest a little more detail on the images, such as naming the buildings, etc. Thanks.--FieldMarine (talk) 03:01, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks FieldMarine. I visited RIT with my son as part of a college search. We visited many colleges and I took lots of photos; I do not know the names of buildings and it would have been too difficult for me to record them while taking photos. Uploading the photos to Commons with the cumbersome interface takes considerable time since I can not type everything in with the keyboard, but have to keep switching to mouse clicks to open or close windows or move the scroll bar. Sorry if I can not provide any more detail but maybe others who are knowledgeable can help you. If you are suggesting to me that I not upload photos unless I know the names of the buildings, then that is another matter, and would like to hear from others whether they concur, if that is the request you are making.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:31, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Understand...no big deal. Good luck with the college search. I'm sure that bring you to some cool places. Semper Fi! FieldMarine (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

NSA Utah Data Center

Hi, i mapped the NSA Utah Data Center <http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=158898045> by Bing imagery and linked it it the WP-article (will be shown in the minimap tomorrow). Maybe you could help identify the buildings as you made the preliminary WP-map.--Jjaf.de (talk) 13:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Cool use of Bing imagery. I do not know the names of buildings but only based the sketch on something I found elsewhere.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:42, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Please identify your photos

Uploading pictures of buildings with no identification is not very useful, and leaves to other people the work of identifying them. Please don't do that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:45, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

I do as much as I can. It takes time to take photos, crop and resize them, upload them to Commons with tedious tools like the Upload Wizard. It's a free service courtesy. I'm a volunteer. I provide as much information as I have at my disposal. There is no requirement that other people must come along and elaborate on my captions; why not simply leave those few photos without much identification alone? Why fuss with them? And if other people wish or don't wish to elaborate on captions, it's up to them. Same thing with categories; I categorize as much as I can, but the categorization system is extensive, constantly changing, and others usually choose to recategorize as they see fit. The greater rule here is to try to be nice to people, to be appreciative for what they have done; it makes Wikimedia a better place to contribute.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:46, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but that's complete bullshit. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:32, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Why?--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:33, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
[1] Examine any photo at random. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Wow. You take great photos. Impressive collection. So, wondering what is your system -- do you take the photo and have a pencil to write down the address? I keep my camera on my belt but I rarely have a pen and paper but I suppose I could keep one in my pocket. My method is to shoot perhaps 50 photos, say, then upload them to my computer (usually a few days to a week later, time permitting), crop them, resize them to make them smaller; but at this point it is difficult for me to remember what's what. Sometimes I'll take an extra photo of a plaque or building number but my memory is going and I can not always remember what goes with what. Clearly you have a superior system I'd like to emulate if you don't mind, so please tell me how you do this.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:48, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment, and the questions, which you're probably going to regret asking.

I think of the process as having four distinct phases:

Phase 1: Taking the photos: This is pretty straightforward. I usually know where I'm going and have something of a plan of action (although I do carry my camera with me for "targets of opportunity" at random times). I've glanced at a map of the area to help me remember where I've been after the fact, and have identified probable targets in various references, such as the AIA Guide to NYC, Guide to NYC Landmarks, lists of places on the National Register, tour guides etc. As I'm taking shots, I'll occasionally take a reference shot of street numbers, street signs, plaques etc. - anything that will remind me later of where I've been. Depending on how many subjects, this can take up 2 hours or more. (I usually end up with 75-125 shots.)

Phase 2: Transferring and identifying the shots: I transfer the shots from the camera to my computer, orient them correctly, then do some light labeling of groups of images (for instance, the street name of the first photo I took on that street) to help my memory later. If I run into a snag and can't remember what the subject of a photo is, I'll do a little quick research online and in the references I consulted earlier to jog my memory.

Phase 3: Selection and correction: This is the phase you mentioned above: I select the specific shots I want to use (I usually take 3-6 shots of every subject (occasionally more), from different angles and at different settings on the camera), crop them, adjust the color balance etc. The amount of time this takes can vary greatly, depending on whether it was a sunny day (and where the sun was in relation to a subject) or an overcast one. When I finish with each image, I save it with a more descriptive file name, which, again, may require that I look up some information I don't recall.

Phase 4: Uploading: This phase probably takes the most time of all, since I do all the research necessary to make sure the shot is correctly named and to gather the information for the description, which will generally include the name of the building, the address, the neighborhood and place, when it was built, who designed it and in what style. Anything else of interest I've gleaned I add in, trying not to go too far. I use the references I mentioned above, plus the NYC GIS map, Landmark and Historic District designation reports, and -- for those "targets of opportunity" which turn out not to be mentioned in the usual texts -- I Google search the web. This phase includes all the categorizing.

All in all, a "normal" batch of photographs (one day's shooting) is usually about a week's project overall. I've been going out to Brooklyn lately, taking 100+ shots, which takes 3 hours or so. Identifying them takes an hour or less. Selection and correction takes a couple of evenings, and uploading the resulting 30-50 edited images takes the rest of the week. Even then, I'll go back and make changes when new information comes to light.

I used to work on one image at a time, identifying, selecting, processing and uploading each one in turn, but by the time I got to the later ones I'd forgotten a lot of stuff about the subject and the images. Working in batches, one phase at a time, seems to work much better. If you were interested in using some version of my methodology, I would suggest that you at least do my Phase 2 as soon after taking the images as possible. Then, when you have the time to finish the process, you've already got some pre-identification as a memory aid. That's what I do if I'm coming back from a trip or vacation with 500-1000 shots.

I know that I probably go overboard, and I don't expect everyone to go to this level of detail or be this anal about the whole thing. In fact, another contributor who uploads a lot of photos (far more than I have), User:Jim.henderson, isn't as comprehensive in his descriptions as I try to be, but he always includes the name of the building and other information. I believe he takes a lot of his shots while group bike riding, so I'm sure his method for keeping track of where he's been is a lot different from mine, and that his preparation and uploading process is probably less onerous than mine can be. It might be worth dropping him a note and asking him about it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:37, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow. You are professional in your approach. Wikipedia and Wikimedia is lucky to have you. You have taken excellent pictures with great descriptions. What makes your approach better than mine is that when you go out, you do so with a plan, a roadmap, planning in advance, and you are frankly just more disciplined about it than I have been in the past, plus taking more time to get things right, taking multiple shots, and so forth. Me, I would go places, and simply have my camera along, since I would be unsure before departure that I would be taking any photos; but if something interesting would come up, I would just shoot it, and have it in my camera, and maybe a few days later, upload it, and then decide whether it was worthy of Wikipedia; but by that time, I might not have remembered the specifics of the location. So, compared to your method, mine is rather haphazard I suppose, although sometimes it has resulted in some good shots by luck mostly. In future, I'll try to bring along index cards and a pen, and write down building names and move towards your method, but please don't expect overnight changes since I am getting older and it becomes harder for me to change habits. It would be really cool to have a camera that, after taking a picture, I could type in a few notes about the photo, and have it linked in with the digital image somehow; that way, right on the spot, I could insert the data like building address and other stuff. My biggest problem with uploading photos is the slowness of using the Upload Wizard, since I am constantly having to switch from keyboard, to mouse, and back again, multiple times within each photo; I would much prefer a system in which I could move between input boxes using a "tab" key. To upload about 50 photos takes me perhaps 45 minutes, and I find the process cumbersome. And I have not yet figured out how to get a better program such as Commonist working on my computer.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:43, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I am honored to be brought into this discussion between already long-respected colleagues. My approach, as outlined in the somewhat out of date User:Jim.henderson/Picture pipeline is intermediately haphazard. Some pix are there because I've always got a camera with me, even on the dullest errands, even if just my smartphone. Others are snapped on biker gang rides that require keeping pace, hence afford sparse and extremely hasty opportunities. More are on specific solo photo expeditions seeking a pre-identified target or two and snapping everything else of interest along the way. Biggest class are after breaking away from the gang on the return leg from the suburbs, with lesser prep study. Except where the target is splendid, I spend only a couple minutes off the bike, looking for angles and later regretting my haste but in winter I have the excuse of needing to get off the road before dark.
High technology can be wonderfully helpful. My current main camera, the Nikon AW-100, is the worst I've ever owned as far as picture quality (except camera phones), but it's got the best geotagger, with the same exception. For many pictures, my haste does not preclude an informational shot showing institutional name, street signs or other aid to identification. With these items and Google Earth I can identify almost everything later at the desk.
On the road the smartphone is even more capable, using either the Alpha test version of the Wikipedia site, or the Commons app downloaded from Android Play. With these I can type in a description as it uploads to Commons. I hope for improvements at the Wiki end, including apps, to collect more information with less typing on the tiny glass screen with stiff cold fingers. I also hope for better Android cameras (Nikon and Canon already sell early ones) or more likely smartphones with better camera. Most cameras, incidentally, have a microphone and can record sound video. Set video resolution to minimum, point the camera at either yourself or the target, and record a 10 second snippet of description. I did this twice in past years before the camera had GPS. Smartphones can also download a voice recorder app if you don't want the informational video to take space. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I am honored to have two prolific and advanced Wikimedia contributors counseling me, since it suggests optimism that I can improve, although clearly I have a ways to go. I am an admitted geotagging virgin, technologically somewhat behind-the-times, with only a simple point-and-click digital camera (Sony SteadyShot 14.1 mega pixels) and it is unlikely I'll get anything more expensive camera-wise in the foreseeable future (unless there's a cheap but good model out there, possibly used, letting me do this stuff). I read through much of Jim's User:Jim.henderson/Picture pipeline and noted that photos were chosen based on whether they could go into any articles -- an interesting approach -- I've been uploading photos which I think might be possibly useful to anybody in the future, and I am now wondering if this is the right approach. I generally declare all my photos "public domain" since I believe it is more likely they'll be copied and used by others (sometimes newspapers have picked up my photos for their stories) and I highly doubt any photo I take will be worth anything to me commercially. Sometimes I use my photos in Wikipedia articles; my hunch is it is hard for us to know, now, what will or won't be useful at times in the future. What I would like to do, in future possibly, is get more photos of people, but I have yet to figure out an efficient method of recording their approval, although I think all I need is verbal permission. I think I've wasted more time getting third parties, such as the subject of a biography article in Wikipedia, by coaxing them via email, to send me a picture of themselves, and then trying to track down permissions and such; it bears fruit maybe one time out of five, so generally I don't do this anymore. Cool possible experiments I'm thinking about: getting permission from someone in a profession, such as a police officer or plumber or dentist, to photograph them as they work, and publish photos of course with their approval. I'm also trying to get up to speed with learning svg graphics, so I can make charts that are scalable. I would love to be able to make a "gif" file -- not there yet -- and uploading short videos would be cool too, possibly. Very cool, Jim, how you do these great photos on bike trips -- really cool. Another thing I try to shoot if I come across it -- auto accidents. Plus it would be cool to assemble BMK's building photos into a collage somehow.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
If it's any consolation to you, I also use an inexpensive point-and-click camera (Canon PowerShot A810 16 megapixels), which I got as a Christmas gift and is actually a step UP from the camera I used to take most of my shots (a hand-me-down from my son).

I, too, was a geotagging virgin until Jim instructed me in the basics, and it's not all that hard to master. My camera doesn't have a GPS, so I simply pull up the Google map of the subject, estimate where I stood when I took the shot, get the coordinates for that spot and do my best on the heading. I think I've gotten to be pretty accurate - certainly enough that someone could go to the spot and verify the subject.

As for whether the photos will be used for anything - well, obviously the historic buildings and such are pretty likely to be used, and (if Jim hasn't gotten there first with a better shot), I'll insert my photo and, while I'm there, do a general cleanup of the article. Still, I also take a lot of less-than-historic buildings, targets of opportunity, things that catch my eye or look interesting to me, and I never hesitate at taking the shot and uploading it. I figure that it's impossible to know exactly what use a photo may be to someone -- on Wikipedia or elsewhere -- so I go ahead and provide the shot, and leave it for others to decide whether to use it or not. Certainly, those of my pictures that have been picked up for media use have generally been of non-notable buildings that just happened to be a good accompaniment to some article. So, basically, I don't worry much about it, I just take what I take and let the chips fall where they may.

I know what you mean about convincing people to provide photographs. I'm in the middle of trying to get a fairly well-known professor to allow me to upload a photo of himself that he owns. He was pretty agreeable and then things slowed down, so I have to work a little harder on that. I've had better luck convincing people on Flickr to change the license on their photos so I can upload them here - I've been able to do that a handful of times. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:18, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Photo freshly geotagged, hopefully correctly, although the photo's title of "Church in New Jersey town probably Little Silver NJ" should probably be changed because it is in Shrewsbury NJ not Little Silver NJ.
Hey I geotagged my first photo! Took me a while but I used your (BMK's) method to figure out the two numbers, which I fetched from Google Maps, and then I borrowed the location template from one of BMK's photos (File:100 West 15th Street.jpg), and added it to my photo, changing the numbers of course, and I think I got it right. I guessed at the heading (NNE). My town of Summit NJ is celebrating wildly with floats, a marching band, and ticker tape hurled from second story windows (or was that somebody merely throwing out their garbage). I'll try to do more geotagging as I go along although it does add one more step in the whole photo uploading process, so I am still kind of wondering how helpful it will be for future users to have those two numbers on there -- I suppose it will definitely be helpful for some purposes, but I am wondering if the overall helpfulness will justify me taking more time to add these numbers. Any thoughts on this? And, wondering which is overall best for Wikimedia -- only uploading photos if geotagged coordinates were there, or having (more) photos sometimes lacking geotagging coordinates? Next camera I get, I'll include geotagging capability as a preference. Plus I've been doing through both your (BMK and Jim's) photos marveling at the contribution. And the idea of converting Flickr users to the right license -- will keep that in mind, thanx.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Congrats! You're now a geotagging pro!

I think the tagging helps for a number of reasons. First, it's the equivalent of "verification" on en:Wiki - that is, anybody can (if they want to) go to those coordinates and verify that the subject is there where it's supposed to be. Second, things change. In a dynamic world, buildings get torn down, or built where there was none before, facades get changed, stores open and close. I think of the Commons as a repository of images not just for now, but for the future. I look at the Berenice Abbot photos of NYC from the '30s and note the changes that have taken place, which would have been almost unknown if not for the existence of the photographs (take a look at her picture in en:Gashouse District and my equivalent below it). Having a geotag on an image will (I think) immeasurably help those who set out to find how a place has changed over the years. I'm sure there are other reasons, but those are two that seem important to me. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanx. I'll strive to geotag as best I can from now on.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 19:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
That would be great! I was so impressed with the importance of it, that after Jim showed me how to do it, I went back and geotagged some months worth of previously uploaded images. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Big help. Coords are the only part of the process in which I'm excessively fussy; my filenames and categories often need correction by more patient minds. First the GPS camera puts its geotag on the picture. On a later day, I adjust a batch (usually 4-12 in a batch), upload, and adjust once more on the file description page. Or thrice more. Often the coords must pass through my head, which often loses a digit. This can be avoided by pasting, for example from Acme Mapper or Ald-Hjl-Koord-en.kmz. Ah, Monmouth County. Been a couple years since I biked from Sandy Hook landing to South Perth Amboy station. Must take another look this Summer, perhaps going south this time to Bay Head or beyond. Incidentally I don't think Hanson Place Central United Methodist Church is showing our best picture. Jim.henderson (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, Jim, until I get a new camera, I'll probably be using BMKen's method. I think there's a way to cut-and-paste the numbers from Google Maps.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:40, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
@Jim: Re: HPCUMC - Agreed. The shadows were so deep the day I took mine I had a devil of a time making the image look like anything usable. I've replaced mine with Tom's. (You don't have one, do you?) Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:42, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Coincidentally, I took my shot the day before Tom took his! Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
Where camera geotagging fails (formerly about 40% but now under 10%) I use maps to tag before doing the crop, tilt and color adjustment. Sometimes in the field there's time to snap the same picture by my smartphone, whose location is more reliable. Studying at the desk, when an otherwise good picture has no location sometimes I get a preliminary location from the successful autotag of a nearby picture. And sometimes the shot intended for upload looks worse than the establishing shot or the smartphone shot, but somehow has a better location. Surprises abound; roles switch.

Resolution and licensing issues

Wondering what you both think about picture resolution; I've been trimming mine to about 800x 600 roughly, since they upload faster and may be easier to store, or does Wikipedia prefer higher resolution photos? Btw I added BMK's geotag data to the Hanson photo. Cool you were there around the same time.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 22:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I generally just upload at whatever resolution they end up at after cropping; I only resize if there's some specific reason to do so, such as with this composite image where I needed to match sizes. Although my new camera can take 16 megapixels (4608x3456), I use 8 megapixels instead (3264x2448) as I'm not convinced that the extra resolution is all that worthwhile (although I'm open to arguments otherwise). (My old camera topped off at 1600x1200, so the vast majority of my uploaded images are under that size.) My wife is the better photographer in the family (although still an amateur) so if I'm uploading one of her images (under her name) I'll resize down to preserve any potential future commercial value, however unlikely that might be.

I think as a matter of policy, Commons prefers that the resolution be as high as possible, but I'm not sure where I read that. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:01, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks maybe I won't resize the photos as much as I have been doing. Yes I think I read something about Wikimedia wanting more pixel-intensive photos somewhere too but I can't remember where.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I was wondering about licensing: public domain vs cc-by-sa 2.5. I generally use Public Domain as the license since I believe more people are likely to use a PD-licensed photo, since users need not even understand the particulars of the CC-licenses. But at the last Wikipedia event I went to, one argument against PD licensing was that somebody could copy my photo, alter it slightly, then return it to the private sphere, making the work once again unavailable without payment. But I don't mind if this happens; in my view, the original freebie photo is still available. So I continue to use PD since I want people to use my photos; but I am wondering what your thoughts are about this, ie, which licenses do you prefer and why.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

More tends to be better, other things being equal which they rarely are for me. There's a Commons distaste for reduced resolution pictures, in part because sometimes there's a way to use them for an unfair advantage in "best picture" contests. That sort of contest, of course, is not a worry for the likes of us with our little P&S cameras and inadequate study. For file size, the Wikimedia server operators say the cost of more Terabytes is trivial. Some Web sites send the original file to the reader and tell the browser to cut it to appropriate size, which can cause seriously slow transmission on a slow DSL like mine. That also isn't a problem for Wikimedia which reduces the resolution before sending the page.

My little camera is like many recent ones, having 16 MPx which are more pixels (cheap, nowadays) than the the little lens (good lenses are still expensive) can resolve, so I cut the camera's resolution to 12 Meg which also helps my slow computer and connection. I assume it also improves performance in bad light, speaking of which, Sunday when I'm in the neighborhood for the BPL Wiki Workshop the Sun might be right for a snap for Hanson Place. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

And yes, most my pix are CC0, which is almost the same as Public Domain. Decorating the Web site of small travel agency I saw my picture of a tour boat on the Harlem River which also illustrates the Tourism in New York City article. In a brochure of Open House New York I saw my picture of the Old Croton Aqueduct in The Bronx. A friend called my attention to a Bay Ridge news site using my shot from landward of the Bay Ridge car float yard. This last was kindly credited to me and Wikipedia. The others were not. Presumably a great many other uses are not attributed, and anyway it's not a problem. Jim.henderson (talk) 12:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Frankly, I'm not quite sure why I use CC-BY-SA and GFDL instead of CC0 or PD - it's just what I started doing and I kept on doing it. I guess I like to have a bit of ownership of the shots, and I don't think that the licensing inhibits anyone from using them, since the terms are extremely liberal (and are ignored much of the time in any case). Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:50, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Interesting. Yes it kind of confirms my sense that the licensing is probably not that important an issue, overall; I had found the cc-by-sa somewhat confusing to understand, conceptually, and I had thought that others, wanting to use my picture, might have been similarly confused and also would have been dissuaded from the attribution requirements, and would choose a PD photo instead of a cc-by-sa one. Several of my photos have been used by newspapers and that is fine with me -- more people getting to use them, see them.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
Far as I know, concern lest big business hijack private creativity via derivative works for corporate profit is an important theme of the Free Culture Movement. Having spent over 40 years as a corporate drone, I find myself unterrified by this prospect, and prefer the simpler idea that, yes, go ahead, do what you will with my picture. Don't worry about violating my legal rights as author, because I have surrendered them. Of course, if I happen to be photographing Tavern on the Green on a winter morning when an airliner falls into Sheep Meadow, one of the things I'll do is reconsider questions of rights and money before uploading. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:14, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
Yes. :) I'm with you on the simpler approach. Plus, I really think a possible user is more likely to use our public domain photos -- they don't have to bother to ask permission, to study what cc-by-sa means, to fuss with attribution (even though many attribute them regardless) -- so I believe that giving away photos is in keeping with the Free Culture Movement. And if a particular photo has obvious commercial value, perhaps that one I'll sell. Seems reasonable.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:42, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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Read Sowell

On your page you say "if you don't like feeling this way, THEN: read Sowell." Which book? I'm intrigued. --Tom dl (talk) 01:21, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Thomas Sowell's book A Conflict of Visions. I found the first chapter or so to be helpful in understanding many underlying belief-systems for liberals and conservatives. Sowell tries to explain why liberals and conservatives think the way they do. I am less sure about his vision hypothesis about how much of human "thinking" (or lack of it) happens at a pre-analytical stage in human development, but, in my experience, I agree with Sowell that ideas tend to cluster together in peoples' minds. So, liberals tend to have one way of seeing the world, conservatives, another. Why? Sowell offers one explanation; I think it is on the right track but there is still much more to figure out.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:21, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks :-) I'll check it out --Tom dl (talk) 16:30, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

So - this is your own work? I suppose you did it as a vector graphic? Can you give us the source, not just the rendered PNG? Commons accepts files in SVG format for that, I can try to convert to SVG if you want...--92.201.166.156 12:29, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it was my work, based on the image from the news story (see the link on the page). I would have liked to do it as a vector graphic so it is scalable, but my graphics program does not permit this. I tried learning Inkscape a while back but never quite mastered it, and then I switched Linux distributions and don't have Inkscape any more. So, if you can do an SVG-format image, that would be great! Please try to improve the diagram, perhaps make it longer (?) and better looking and we can switch to your diagram, if you wish.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

What did you create it with? No chance we can extract the vectors out of there?.. :-( Oh - and Inkscape should be available in the repositories for any major Linux distribution...--92.201.166.156 12:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

GNU Paint. Sorry I don't know much about vectors. Yes Inkscape could be used but I haven't gotten around to loading it yet, then learning it; busy with other projects.:)--Tomwsulcer (talk) 14:35, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I had a try:

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Oooooo. I think you had a succeed. Great job! I replaced my image with your better one on Hyperloop.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for quickly developing a graphic schematic of the Hyperloop concept pod. It adds a lot to the article. Cheers. N2e (talk) 15:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, N2e but an IP has rendered a better drawing, using SVG scalable graphics, but I love baklava!--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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No required license templates were detected at this file page. Please correct it, or if you have any questions please check my FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Yours sincerely, Jarekt (talk) 19:37, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

The license is {{cc-by-3.0}} that is, "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported" -- specified in the emails that are being sent to OTRS. The photographers have given their permission via the emails.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:20, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Reventtalk 10:04, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, duplicate, delete one of them by all means.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:16, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Reventtalk 21:46, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

If duplicate, yes go ahead and speedily delete.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 11:51, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
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Ubcule (talk) 00:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

This is public writing -- on a museum -- so I thought it was okay to photograph, but I am not that attached to it, and if keeping this image ruffles feathers, well go ahead and delete it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 08:54, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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Ubcule (talk) 00:02, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Pan Am is a defunct airline. This image was part of an advertising campaign from the 1960s approximately, and it may have historical value, and was publicly displayed in a museum, so I thought it was okay for Wikimedia. But if it ruffles feathers, well go ahead and delete it, I'm not that attached to it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 08:56, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
Since you mention elsewhere that the copyright rules baffle you, I'll try to keep this simple.
* It's nothing to do with "ruffling feathers"; Commons is supposed to be a repository of freely-usable images, not an arbitrary collection like Flickr. (#) That's why Commons cares about copyright even where others (supposedly) do not.
* Unless there's evidence to the contrary, we assume that everything that *might* be copyrightable- and isn't the uploader's own work- is copyrighted. If (e.g.) something is out of copyright due to age- or for any other reason- it's the uploader's responsibility to make clear why.
* As far as 2D graphic works (i.e. images, posters, signs, etc.) are concerned, it generally doesn't matter where they're located (in public or otherwise). Any reproduction of them- photographic or otherwise- remains copyrighted to the original owner. Any photo solely or significantly based around them is a derivative of a copyrighted work and not free. (Don't worry about photos where (e.g.) such posters are a minor background detail, though- that's usually okay as long as they're not the intended focus of the image).
* You can't tag a reproduction of someone else's image solely as your "own work" if that "own work" was simply photographing it. You have to correctly indicate the source and status of the original thing you're trying to reproduce.
(Note that some things- e.g. really simple signs- are considered too simple to be copyrightable).
I hope that's not too complicated, but it's what you need to know (and do) if you want to upload reproductions of signs, posters, etc. by other people. If this seems like too much work, I'd recommend that you stick to uploading your own material. Hope this helps.
(#) I know Flickr's rules require users to correctly indicate the status of images and only upload those they have the right to; in practice, this isn't enforced in most cases.
Ubcule (talk) 15:10, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for explaining, I'll try to absorb the rules as I continue along... My main thing is Wikipedia as an article creator and revamper, and I'll try to keep working on my image skills as I go.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:16, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
No problem. BTW, just to let you know in advance, but I didn't check all your past uploads when I nominated those above, so it's possible that there are quite a few others already in the same boat that will be nominated for deletion (for the same reasons) sooner or later.
All the best, Ubcule (talk) 20:28, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. No I don't think there are many other deletables. Mostly I do landscape images, or images of things, occasionally people, some diagrams that I did myself, but you're welcome to check.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
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Ubcule (talk) 00:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Hi there,

Just to let you know I uploaded a modified version of your drawing File:Framed Cabinets.jpg. I don't think I've changed anything about the image itself beyond adjusting the perspective and cropping the surround.

However, please feel free to revert this if you're not happy with it.

All the best, Ubcule (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Ditto File:Frameless kitchen cabinets.jpg, which has also been brightned. Ubcule (talk) 20:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Images from Paterson Museum number 50.jpg

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Yours sincerely, (tJosve05a (c) 22:14, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Sculpture photograph copyright issue

Images of people are fine if you don't show their face; if their face is shown, it is necessary to get their verbal permission.

Hi... I just used some of you wonderful Grounds for Sculpture photos on the Wikipedia page and have a copyright question perhaps you can answer:

Several months ago I uploaded many I took at GFS to Commons and then used them on the GFS Wiki page, as well as on a few other Wiki pages about some of the specific sculptures. A month or so later they were all tagged for deletion due to copyright violation. Despite my protest they were all deleted from Commons and teh pages. (I was only able to save my peacock photos by explaining that these were real birds.) As best I can understand it, they were claiming the law (in the USA at least) is that photos of sculptures are not the property of the photographer - but all rites belong to the sculptor. I was pointed at some legalistic Wiki pages backing this up, and did some other research, but I did not understand all the details and basically gave up.

So... do you have any idea what you did differently to have your pix avoid deletion (up to this point anyway)? I'd love to understand this so I could use my photos. Rp2006 ([[User talk:Rp2006|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 14:59, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Frankly I have no idea. I'm sorry your images were deleted. My personal sense is that the copyright rules are complex and fudge-y and open to all kinds of misinterpretation, and that there is not much fairness to it -- just scroll up on this page and you can see instances in which my images were deleted. And I think that if a Wikimedia volunteer comes across your images and is having a bad day, that they can put your images up for deletion, and they're usually deleted -- why, again, I can not say for sure. Some things I think are generally true -- photographs of landscapes, buildings, nature and such are generally safe. Photographs of artwork like paintings in museums are generally not safe and subject to deletion, unless they're earlier than 1920s in the US (and the rules get murky). Outdoor sculptures? I think it's a gray area, subject to interpretation. There is a rule about the freedom of panorama, which usually covers buildings and landscapes and such, but if a sculpture is in a public place, like a statue of a prominent historical figure, they're usually allowed. Not sure about sculptures in the Grounds for Sculpture. About people -- if it is one person, I ask them before I take their picture, do I have your permission to put your photo in Wikipedia? They say yes, snap, I upload the image, then tag it with the term {{Consent}} in the "Permission" parameter, and those images usually don't get deleted or tagged with a "personality rights" warning. Crowd images can be okay if most faces are barely recognizable, or photos of people from the rear. Another idea I have for you -- create a user page for yourself, and write something on it; that way, your handle doesn't light up in red (a sign to the deletionists that you're most likely a newbie.)--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 16:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

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Yes, delete, all I did was make an improved version of the file, but I never checked the original file's sourcing.--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 22:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I did look around to see if it I could find the original research, but have only found random blogs repeating both versions of the graph with an authoritative "According to Alpha T Knowledge..." - when such an organisation doesn't seem to exist, it's just the commons username of the uploader. Sorry to see that your effort was wasted here! --McGeddon ([[User talk:McGeddon|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 18:13, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
Everything we do in Wikipedia and Wikimedia is ultimately like building sandcastles -- we enjoy building them, marveling at their beauty, but sooner or later the tide will wash them away.--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 18:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

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Location of Young people texting on smartphones using thumbs

Hi,

Do you happen to remember where did you take this photo?

I want to use it in a Wikimania presentation, and it would be nice to say where did it happen.

Thanks! --Amir E. Aharoni ([[User talk:Amire80|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 09:50, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Looks like it happened in the fellowship room of a church.--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 13:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! And do you happen to remember in which city or village? --Amir E. Aharoni ([[User talk:Amire80|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 13:47, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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Deletion request

Hi! Losing an election is not a disqualifying thing. We have tons of peeps who lost elections. Or their head got that matter -> Category:Marie Antoinette of Austria ;-)) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 23:45, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Her picture definitely is within project scope. Maybe someone wants to compile a who ran for what gallery. Yes, you can't ask for deletion as uploader. I would rather keep the file, I wouldn't start a war over it tho. It's a keeper in my book and I don't use that word keeper lightly. C(_) BTW: We don't work with G7, A11 , ABC 123, here on Commons, so you don't have to look the en-wiki reasons up. We are all literate admins and understand your reasoning. Most times that is. Probably. ;-) Anywho: If you still want to delete the poor woman, give me a ping. --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 01:28, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Ok thanks for explaining. I have long since given up trying to understand how the Commons works. I'm just thinking that since her wikipedia article will probably be deleted, since her only notability was as a candidate, and she lost, that the image will not be needed. But it's not a big deal, I'll go with whatever is decided.--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 12:18, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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And also:

Yours sincerely, Ankry ([[User talk:Ankry|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 06:44, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

File:Tree and bushes and grass -- 8 of 33.jpg: should it be in Category:Birches in art or Category:Poplars in art? DMBFFF ([[User talk:DMBFFF|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 07:01, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
Yes I think the tree is a birch. Thanks for your categorizing know-how.--Tomwsulcer ([[User talk:Tomwsulcer#top|int:Talkpagelinktext]]) 10:00, 3 April 2020 (UTC)