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A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Thanks so much for your help translating image descriptions to Spanish language. Muchas gracias por su ayuda traduciendo descripciones de imágenes al Español. A hug The Photographer 20:01, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
Gracias por esto! Lo agradezco mucho Seb26 (talk) 20:47, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Re-writing texts

In this edit, I agree with you about the "various colours" vs "multi-color", that was my mistake. But the rest of your re-writing of the description changed the meaning of the text radically and in a faulty way. Just because one expression is a bit off, don't assume that the rest of the text is too. Please trust the original uploader to be able to tell how the photo was taken and the circumstances under which it was made. I have fixed the text now, please read my editing summaries. The grammar may be a bit off in the Spanish since I'm not as fluent in that language. Regards, --cart-Talk 14:06, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and apologies for the mistake. I hope you accept it was an oversight and there was no active intent to distrust the original author. I do trust them. I just made a reading comprehension error. I am glad you took the step to resolve it. Cheers. Seb26 (talk) 14:28, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Village_pump/Copyright#Israeli_currency

I thanked you though the notification system, but I feel like thanking you, explicitly, for writing such a well-documented and explained description of the issue. Kudos. - Reventtalk 01:21, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! I appreciate that. And as I said before, the thanks are in part for you for stumbling upon that stone quiet talk page and making it known. Cheers seb26 (talk) 01:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Truffle-vanilla

Hey Seb26, just wanted to thank you for being the "someone", that must have been a huge pile of work! Cheers, --El Grafo (talk) 19:28, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the message El Grafo! seb26 (talk) 23:05, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear license reviewer

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MissHazelJade

Thanks for your efforts with her at UnDR. I have little use or patience with people who assume that they somehow can get away with breaking a variety of rules here and then yell at the old white male who happens to be enforcing the rules. I don't think she will get very far at WP:EN because of WP:COI -- still another broken rule. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 09:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome, and it was understandably so as almost all of their comments were deliberately provocative. seb26 (talk) 14:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

About File:2016112320161123cat00m200038000c-002.jpg

Hello, Seb26. Could you check whether my photo is valid? 天馬松風 (talk) 11:05, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi 天馬松風, another agent is handling that request. You should continue corresponding with them via e-mail and ask them for other options if it is not working out. Or post on Commons:OTRS/Noticeboard. seb26 (talk) 12:24, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Domain public photo, and the previous is the same

Dear @Seb26,

You requested for deletion of this photo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Jaime_Alberto_Parra_-_El_M%C3%A9dico_Farc.jpg

You have the reason, there is not an 'official statement' that the picture is 'public domain'.

But the photo has circulated before Semana magazine and newspapers published –without source– in 2010.

However, I added the picture because has better quality than the previous one, that... it's the same photo that is published in Wikipedia some years ago!!!

Could you explain me why the first one remains published, and what can I do to publish it again –and improve the article?

Thank you very much.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.244.171.99 (talk • contribs) 06:15 4 jul 2017‎ (UTC)

Hi, I responded to your message at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Jaime Alberto Parra - El Médico Farc.jpg. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 13:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

GAULA

Why did u move Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal of the Policía Nacional to Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal? Because with the original title I just wanted to categories Gaulas of the Policia Nacional as there exists also Gaulas of the Navy and the Army (check here).--Sanandros (talk) 14:51, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sanandros, thanks for the message. Sorry it looks like my move reason in the history was cut off as being too long. The first reason I moved it was because the name was confusing in my opinion because it uses words that are a mix of two languages and it is unclear what are the parameters of the category. Secondly I linked to es:Ejército_Nacional_de_Colombia#Unidades_especiales which explains the structure of those organisations. My understanding from this page and others that I read is that GAULA (which the G is for grupos, groups) is a group of units who work in the hostage rescue field, and that inside this 'unified' group of units there are 16 units for the Army, 2 for the Navy and 15 for the Police. We could very well separate Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal into a subcategory each for the army, navy and police, but from the looks of the actual photos, the individual personnel have livery and markings that acknowledge GAULA in general and not the type of unit (example). This to me suggests that GAULA is perhaps much more of a unifying organisation in the way that they represent themselves and it might be inappropriate to try and separate and treat the units differently. If you think it is a better idea to break up the category and you have suggestions for better names, I would support that in the case that the names are just in one language, and possibly in brackets like: Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal (Policía Nacional)and (Fuerzas Armadas). For now, I put the Army, Navy and Police category onto this category in question so the content in it is technically linking with these branches and acknowledges the joint operation of these forces underneath the one branding. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 15:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Yea breaking up the cat would make sense because we have alread pretty much Policia Nacional pics in that cat. And also recognise Gaulas from Navy (vid) or army (example) is not that heavy as they have diffrent uniforms.--Sanandros (talk) 21:55, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
OK, sounds good Sanandros, what do you think of:
  • Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal (Policía Nacional)
  • Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal (Ejército Nacional)
  • Category:Grupos de Acción Unificada por la Libertad Personal (Armada)
Or should they read, Policía Nacional de Colombia, Ejército Nacional de Colombia, Armada de la República de Colombia, etc. seb26 (talk) 00:02, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
I admit I should have considered this before I did the move, apologies for the trouble, I don't know why it didn't occur to me and I guess I only saw police pics and the error with the name and wanted to correct it. Will discuss on the talk page next time. seb26 (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
The first suggestion with the short form in the brackets is fine enough. And don't worry errors are made to correct them ;) --Sanandros (talk) 07:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Adding otrs permission

Hi, Can you please add otrs permission for this [1] cropped image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perumalism (talk • contribs) 16:11 10 jul 2017‎ (UTC)

Hi Perumalism, a wiki link to the full resolution version of the file is all that is necessary. I did this as an example. seb26 (talk) 16:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Thankyou Perumalism Chat 16:22, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Copyright Violation

Hi Seb26, Sorry for all the confusion on my page. This is my first wikipedia article and I am just trying to figure it all out. Thanks for your patience (Developmental Biology (talk) 13:15, 11 July 2017 (UTC))

Responded on talk page seb26 (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

File:HChandlerDavis AlanMWald 2011.png

File:HChandlerDavis AlanMWald 2011.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

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Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 02:49, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Magog the Ogre, thank you for doing this, I should have put this to a DR initially given that they were not identical. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 03:54, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your action here [2]. Please see my reply. Can we please add the license back to the 3 file pages, pending the OTRS process, and not have the licenses be repeatedly removed? Sagecandor (talk) 05:15, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Sagecandor, sorry, I'm not going to take any more action here, please just allow the deletion review to run its course and for OTRS agents to respond. seb26 (talk) 05:28, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
@Seb26: I'm still in communication with the copyright holder. I took your advice and asked the copyright holder to also change the license on YouTube but I know that is not necessary and is in fact over and above what is required if we already have their OTRS confirmation by email communication. What else can I do ? Sagecandor (talk) 05:29, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

File postcard

hi, I got your message By the way, I saw the two previous steps, and I must say that first of all the message was immediately deleted without even being received, "I previously sent a five-file restore request and I am Have been accepted and restored, but I do not understand why you do not want to evaluate my request without even analyzing the deleted files in question, and saying that I told you the source in question, "please, you could do something", me You've reset five files earlier, so I'm sorry, but I'd like to ask you if you can continue doing so by analyzing the files --87.8.134.248 17:17, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

87.8.134.248, hi, I'm not an admin so I'm not in charge of evaluating the undeletion requests, that will be the decision of the admins. Thanks, seb26 (talk) 23:25, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
So come and listen to me? ", In the past the administrators had managed to restore the deleted files in the past, with this request," I can not republish this coexistence "how do I ??? --87.15.94.124 08:34, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Imagenes: Portada Enfoque.jpg, Portada Tsafique.jpg, Publi-02.jpg

Ya envié la solicitud para asignar licencias, no borrarás! [Ticket#: 2017072510014724] [Ticket#: 2017072510015303] [Ticket#: 2017072510015312] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aganon77 (talk • contribs) 19:43, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Ticket:2017051810020832

Hi Seb, I merged a ticket into this one and added a note to it, and was hoping you would take a look. I didn't want to step on your toes by barging in, but I hope you could ask for clarity in the attribution. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 14:47, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Storkk, that's fine, thanks for that. I think the attribution is fine, maybe we can add both names as an alternative. I would prefer not to email them again about this but if you feel it is warranted jump right in. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 15:28, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I'll do so. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 15:29, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Foto de Antonio Castellanos Mata

Muchísimas gracias, Seb26. Ahora voy a proceder con lo que me dices, espero que no me confunda. ¿Tengo que pedir después a mis colegas a poner otra vez un enlace en la página de Antonio cuando van a restorar el fichero? Muchas gracias por tu trabajo y compasión. Elena Grekova — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 37.158.218.239 (talk) 02:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Estimado Elena, gracias, vi el mensaje que envió a OTRS. En un rato cuando hay agentes disponibles será contestado. Por lo general, el agente que lo hace también modificará el artículo en los proyectos de Wikipedia para restaurar el archivo. Gracias por su paciencia. Saludos. seb26 (talk) 14:32, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

OTRS permissions

Hello, Seb26. I have seven photos needed OTRS permissions (uploaded for a month), could you help to check it?

Thank you. 長谷川明 (talk) 11:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Account name policy

Hi Seb. Regarding Special:Diff/230846819/253026476, I think you are incorrectly applying a Wikipedia policy to Commons. Our policy is at Commons:Username_policy, and only requires that organizational accounts identify themselves. Banning organizational accounts has been discussed many times in the past (peruse Commons talk:Username policy), but has never gained consensus to become policy. Storkk (talk) 11:39, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Storkk, hi, thanks for this. I feel the need to briefly clarify where I'm coming from. My post that you linked above is a reference to the Commons policy indeed and not Wikipedia. I take from the section "Use of the names of "organizations" is prohibited unless you provide evidence that you are or represent the respective organization". While I admit there was probably no suggestion from me to encourage the user to contact OTRS and identify themselves appropriately which was within their rights I suppose, there is still an issue in my opinion with their username giving the impression that the account could be operated by more than one person. This part of the ambiguity within COM:UP likely gave rise to the essay Commons:Role account and yes exists in the talk page discussions you linked. However, prior to this message I left, I had observed other administrators take action on promotional/organisational usernames by just issuing a straight block (I also requested one here and it was acted upon.) I thought it was more productive & collaborative to ask new users to rename themselves as a step to try first. This is more generally where I took my interpretation of the policy from as I was not contributing to the project at the time of those talk page discussions so was not aware of them. So given this, there might be a need for a reboot of the discussions on the topic since I can see different action being taken/different interpretations of the issue. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 12:08, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Category:Zionskirche (Allendorf/Lumda)

Hello Seb26. User:4nn1l2 told that you are handling the ticket (see User talk:4nn1l2#Category:Zionskirche (Allendorf/Lumda). Could you restore File:Allendorf Lumda Zionskirche Orgel (1).jpg an the others now? --Wikiwal (talk) 07:00, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Wikiwal. I'm not an administrator and I can't see any ticket mentioned in that discussion so I can't check it. However, I'm not available to work on this either, so I encourage you to ask 4nn1l2 or reach out to someone on COM:OTRSN if you feel it is appropriate. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 13:50, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, --Wikiwal (talk) 14:13, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi User:Wikiwal, I handled the ticket. All files have been restored and tagged appropriately. 4nn1l2 (talk) 17:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Well done! I'm happy that the pictures are restored. Thanx! --Wikiwal (talk) 18:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Before placing deletion requests, please be informed

I uploaded a picture of Botero I took at the Museo de Antioquia in Colombia, this was my picture. Of course I did not receive written request from the artist! Are you kidding me? The artwork is in a public museum and thus in the public domain. Before placing further pictures in the delete section, please be more informed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpalma01 (talk • contribs) 11:03, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Dpalma01, thanks for the message and sorry if you were frustrated by the deletion. I have appreciated some of the other images you uploaded and have worked on categorising some, so thank you for those. As for this image: All artworks including three dimensional works are copyrighted which means photographs (even if it was only taken by you) that exclusively show the artwork are technically a derivative of that artist's work. This applies in the United States and Colombia. Being in a public museum does not mean the artwork is public domain or that the artist has rescinded any of their rights. There was no personal expectation of you to contact the artist in writing but that being said we do host photographs of many artworks because their artists have provided permission for the work to photographed for this purpose. You may wish to read more at Commons:Copyright_rules_by_subject_matter#Art_.28copies_of.29 which explains that only works after certain dates (mostly talking 1920s or authors dead for 70-120 years unlike Botero) are available in the public domain. Please note that while I said that all artworks are considered copyrighted, many countries have an exception for works found permanently exhibited outside. This is called freedom of panorama. Please note Commons is strict about this, so if it was a surprise then that is OK, just keep it in mind for next time. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 12:15, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your input

I appreciate your input, but in the future it would help to avoid the back and forth if you would quote the "manual" when you are suggesting something, otherwise your comments may come across as trolling or subjective. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpalma01 (talk • contribs) 13:50 6 oct 2017‎ (UTC)

Dpalma01, no problem, sorry if that was your interpretation. Although my comment lacked links like you say, it didn't contain anything to suggest bad intentions. Suggestions are made on this wiki all the time in good faith. Also on an unrelated note, it is a good idea if you use the 4 tildes "~~~~" to sign your posts so that others can see who left the comment (see Commons:Talk_page_guidelines#Markup). Cheers, seb26 (talk) 13:56, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Dra. Myriam Jimeno Photo

When I was writting her article, I sent her an email to request a photo, and her assistant sent to me several to choose between them. So the only proof of her authorization is those emails received. But another way I propose is that you send her a direct email, asking if the information is true.--Luzcaru (talk) 23:06, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Luzcaru, thanks for writing to me. I believe you for sure but I think a little more explanation from me is needed to clarify why the image has been tagged as no permission. We have the OTRS system which is the appropriate way to file email permissions from outside people. There's no record of that being done with this image so there's no way for anyone to review the email to see what type of permission was actually granted. Did the assistant give permission for the photo to appear on Wikipedia? If so, that kind of statement would have been insufficient. We need images to be released under a free license or released from rights entirely into the public domain, which is a much bigger release of rights than simply the right to use it on a Wikipedia article. The usual way to acquire photos is to ask the photographer/owner to release them under a free license (e.g. Creative Commons BY-SA-4.0) using the template found at COM:CONSENT. In your emails, did you use this template? Or did the assistant explicitly in writing agree to this kind of license or to release the image into the public domain? Let me know if you can please. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 00:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
I did not use the template. The assistant did not explicitly agree to this kind of license. So, today I sent her the template by email requesting the Dra. Jimeno´s sign. I also sent to her the wikimedia permissions email. So, I hope she answer quickly. I will be in contact. Thanks for your time.--Luzcaru (talk) 19:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, will look out for the email. seb26 (talk) 01:20, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Ticket#2017092610002179

Hello, Seb26. I don't receive any emails sent by OTRS volunteers, could you help to scrutinize it? Thank you. Silly Bill (talk) 15:52, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Silly Bill. You will need to have patience while volunteers work through hundreds of other emails and eventually respond to yours (there is a large backlog), or ask on COM:OTRSN. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 16:37, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
If it exceeds 32 days that no volunteers handle, could I find you to help directly? Silly Bill (talk) 00:29, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
No sorry I am on wikibreak. The OTRS noticeboard is watched by a lot of people so if you mention it has been a while, I'm sure someone will try to help. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 00:33, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Versión en vector de la red Transmilenio metro

Hola, ya subí la versión en vector del mapa de la red Transmilenio Metro. Esta es la dirección: File:Sistema Transmimetro vector.svg Se ve diferente al original. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrihern (talk • contribs) 20:20 28 nov 2017‎ (UTC)

¡Gracias Chrihern! seb26 (talk) 00:12, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Imágenes borradas

¿por qué me borras las fotos, que tengo que hacer para que no las borres?. JUAN BLAS tenerife (talk) 20:23 3 dic 2017‎

JUAN BLAS tenerife: Hola. Fueron borradas porque todas provinieron de fuentes del internet. No sé si sabías pero Wikimedia Commons cuenta con imágenes del dominio público y de licencias libres. Commons:Sobre las licencias. Cuando subes imágenes, de hecho le añades a la imagen una linea de crédito que dice que tú has creado la imagen y que la pones a disponibilidad con una licencia de Creative Commons, aunque no la creaste. Todas las imágenes aparecían como si fueran la propiedad intelectual tuya cuando no son. Wikipedia en español es un proyecto vinculado con Wikimedia Commons en este sentido así que los usuarios de Wikipedia tiene que cumplir con estas reglas de subir solamente imágenes libres. Te recomiendo a buscar imágenes en Google mediante la herramienta en "Herramientas" > "Derechos de uso" > "Etiquetadas para reutilización con modificaciones" para que te salgan resultados apropiados y no protegidos. Cualquier duda me puedes avisar. Saludos, seb26 (talk) 20:31, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Gracias por tu respuesta, hice lo que me dijistes pero no me sale ninguna foto de lo que busco, que puedo hacer — Preceding unsigned comment added by JUAN BLAS tenerife (talk • contribs) 20:44, 3 December 2017 (UTC) JUAN BLAS tenerife (talk)

JUAN BLAS tenerife, sí, eso es lo desafortunado. En los casos en que no encuentres imágenes para un artículo, mejor dejarlo sin imágenes. Esto pasa mucho en Wikipedia en español dado que el proyecto no acepta imágenes protegidas en ninguna circunstancia, a diferencia de Wikipedia en inglés. Resulta que ese proyecto puede permitir logotipos, escudos, retratos de personas comerciales y fotografías históricas entre 1923-2017 en algunas circunstancias, mientras en el español no se puede. Espero que entiendas. En los demás casos, si hay oportunidad de fotografiar el sujeto tu mismo, te recomiendo hacerlo (digamos edificios, sitios o personas que puedes acceder), porque igual eso es parte de la idea del proyecto. Saludos, seb26 (talk) 20:52, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Ya tengo foto editada por mí — Preceding unsigned comment added by JUAN BLAS tenerife (talk • contribs) 20:54, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

JUAN BLAS tenerife, ¿a cuál te refieres? seb26 (talk) 20:58, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Ya la subi enta en ( https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har%C3%ADa_Club_de_F%C3%BAtbol ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JUAN BLAS tenerife (talk • contribs) 21:00, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Sobre foto historica en pagina Xesus Culebras en Galipedia

Buwenos dias! llevo tres dias trabajando intensamente para poder conseguir que se autorice una licencia valida a una multitud de fotos históricas y documentos de mi abuelo Xesus Culebras muerto en 1948. Soy junto con mis primos Teresa y Adriano Culebras el heredero de todo su legado documental de fotos y documentos personales, incluida la foto que he publicado en su pagina Xesus Culebras. Asi consta en "Xesus Culebras, nacionalista e agrarista.SERMOS GALIZA (num 244)May 4, 2017pag. 2 (Dice…hoxe custodiado por Jesús Adriano e Teresa Culebras, albaceas da memoria de seu avó)" Que puedo hacer para usarlos ? --Jesus Culebras (talk) 07:45, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Jesus Culebras, hola, gracias por el mensaje. Ya trabajo en esto, al parecer se necesita más pensamiento para evaluar a quién pertenecería los derechos de autor. Tenga en cuenta que cada imagen que usted ha subido se ve que tiene circunstancias distintas así que le recomiendo tener paciencia mientras otros usuarios comenten. Estamos en contacto. Saludos, seb26 (talk) 12:53, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

22:08, 13 December 2017‎ (UTC)

Note you are wrong, and misinformed. The photos in question were taken by self timer, as the photographer was the only photographer onsite in the middle of the desert for this expedition. He was contracted to take all the images of the expedition. I find your intrusions on that page as ignorant and invalid. leebrandoncremer 22:08, 13 December 2017‎ (UTC)

leebrandoncremer, I think there may be a misunderstanding. I voted delete for those photos until your comment explained how they were taken. The admin JuTa made the decision to delete them anyway, I requested that they be restored based on what you said, and they said no. See Commons talk:Deletion requests/Uploads by Leebrandoncremer. However, as I wrote to you on en.wikipedia, I'm fairly sure they are public domain anyway for the sheer fact of having been taken prior to 1955. I will continue to research that. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 22:12, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

Please stop

Look: if someone is asking for something to be deleted, it’s normally for a reason. That’s self-explanatory. I’d have appreciated if you had talked to me about it on my talk page first. Yes, it is being a dick to insist on a full inquisition for a simple courtesy deletion and not to take a community member’s thoughts into account, and I’d ask that you stop with your pettiness on this topic: as you say, it’s a simple bare bones DR. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

TonyBallioni: thanks for your message. There was nothing self-explanatory about it to me, which is why I asked. Once, and then you explained. It was then unnecessary at that point for you to make suggestions about the legitimacy of the question (that should have been on my talk page), processes about en.wikipedia, or comments about the differences between the projects and how Commons is penalising users, none of which are actually related to the image at hand. If the image showed people or any other identifying information, then naturally I would have respected it immediately as the intention would have been personality rights, but there was nothing of that sort. Deletion requests are supposed to be examined closely, and there are tens of requests each week which don't successfully elaborate on the rationale and are closed by admins as "no valid reason for deletion", rendering the 7 days spent a waste of time. It is beside the point of course, you should just be conducive to the questions of others in that area because that is how the area works. It is not up to admins to do guesswork, please present the case clearly in future deletion nominations. On a note about civility, if you disagree with my conduct, you should say so using the words "I disagree" in place of derogative language like "dick" and "petty", regardless if in your opinion the behaviour supposedly fits the bill. That's not collaborative at all and makes this a much harder environment to contribute to. seb26 (talk) 14:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
It is petty, and describing it as such is not uncivil in the slightest. A coutesy deletion is a valid reason to delete and unless there is a reason to keep it should be granted. There was no obvious reason to keep, thus rendering your questions pointless, and your insistence on asking them to an experienced Wikimedian who did not include any additional information petty. The fact that this would be handled simply on en.wiki and that not granting it would be penalizing users is obviously relevant to the image at hand: it reflects how some on Commons have no sympathy for inter-wiki collaboration. I advocate for people to upload files here instead of locally, but your actions here are actively driving away someone who prefers contributing media here over en. Re: don't be a dick: that's the tradtional name for the meta principle of how to interact with other users on Wikimedia projects (meta:Don't be a dick). When someone makes it clear that they don't appreciate what you are doing and there are no good reasons to continue it (which there aren't here), then yes, you are being a dick. I don't expect you'll apologize for it, but there is nothing wrong with calling it out. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
TonyBallioni: well, I appreciate the insight. Look, I can admit that now after hearing more from you that maybe asking a question as to why was not the most productive action to take. However, some good faith should really have been assumed of me from your part. It wasn't clear to me, also an experienced Commons user, why this was being courtesy deleted. Note that Commons does not have a courtesy deletion of the severity of "absolutely-no-questions-asked" written in stone like supposedly en.wikipedia has. It is pretty normal and pro-collaborative when users ask questions and other DRs involving courtesy deletions usually receive questions. Maybe I should have not inquired, but even so, doing so really did not justify the kind of aggressive responses that followed from you. I'm left lost as to why I was being pinned as the posterboy for what is clearly your personal opinion about the inter wiki relationships of Commons and en.wikipedia, and why it continues in your talk page communication here with me. Sorry to disappoint you but I can't really offer you any remorse or promises of change on behalf of the project, nor do I understand what is it that you expect as acceptable change. You are also a user equally here on Commons. Every user regardless of experience should expect the same level of civility and collaboration. It was really quite surprising to read from a user who is reportedly an administrator on en.wikipedia be so adamantly defensive when questioned and to non-transparently remove all traces of a discussion that they deemed as unnecessary and 'petty', and frequently using the word 'dick'. Similar behaviour on Commons would often be raised on user conduct noticeboards here if it happened repeatedly. I recommend you be careful with using the word "dick" in relation to that Meta document, since in the rest of the English speaking world outside of Wikimedia (and also given the sheer percentage of active contributors here who do not have English as a native language), it is an offensive term. Not the most appropriate move on your part. But thank you for the rest of your comments, collaboration is important and if that, the strongest part of my intentions, wasn't clear from the outset, then I may need to adapt my manner of comments and make it clearer in communication with others. Let's take a break and move on from this topic. Cheers, seb26 (talk) 02:00, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Yes. The word is as offensive as your behavior. I’m sorry for being curt, but please don’t ping me again on this project: your inability to see why someone might expect not to be hassled over something so simple and as to why they might not want to explain publicly something that is being asked as a courtesy shows that you have no respect for other users as people. I respect Commons policies and guidelines, but I also expect not to be lectured to on something as simple as a courtesy deletion request with no pressing reason to keep. I do consider that petty, and even if it is allowed by policy is something that you should have been handled better.TonyBallioni (talk) 02:08, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Castillo

Mandá a borrar todo. Cada vez es peor acá, es imposible hacer una contribución sin que se le busque la quinta pata al gato. Besitos, besitos, chau, chau. Pd. Conozco a Sylvia Iparraguirre en persona, me mandó las fotos a mi mail en esa época (2010) y ella las tomó. Pero bueno. --Aleposta (talk) 18:24, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

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