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Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:36, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

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Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:21, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Please use sub-categories

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When categorising files, please avoid placing them into several categories that are directly linked within the same tree (e.g. a parent category and a child category – like Category:United Kingdom and Category:London), to prevent over-categorization of files and over-population of categories. Usually, only the most specific category should be used. See Commons:Categories for more details. Thank you.

––Apalsola tc 20:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

That is what Iam trying to do. It is not always obvious which sub-category an aircraft category might be in, so ALL aircraft categories should be in the manufacturer category, other sub-categories are incidental!! The over-categorisation is due to others creating unnecessary sub-categories--Petebutt (talk) 06:32, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
@Petebutt: Edits like this one create COM:OVERCAT violations for no discernible purpose. The category already has been placed in the relevant sub-category Category:Douglas military aircraft, so placing it also at Category:Douglas aircraft serves no purpose. Apalsola (talk · contribs) is right to point the correct method to use. If you feel a category is unnecessary, us Commons:CfD to discuss and resolve it. Josh (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Nonsense edits

Hello. Yet a couple of such things as Revision of Category:Mikulin piston aircraft engines and I’ll request your account to be blocked indefinitely. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 10:26, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

As has been explained to you on multiple occasions, "Unidentified" and other maintenance categories exist for clear reasons - to help images get labelled, described and categorized properly. Yet you persist with edits like this, this, and this. It's really a shame, because you have substantial knowledge about aircraft and I wish you would simply contribute constructively. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:35, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


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Request reason: "Whereas at first sight my actions were disruptive. I posit that I was merely responding to the disruptive edits of others. Namely, placing large numbers of images in inappropriate categories and expecting others to do their donkey work. The only way of repairing the damage is to move the images to another more appropriate category en-masse. I promise not to repeat the actions, IF THE OTHER EDITORS STOP THEIR DISRUPTIVE EDITS!!!!!! If you check with my contributions you will see that my positive contributions FAR outweigh the results of attemptoing to repair other peoples nonsense and request an immediate repeal of the block"
Decline reason: "So far you have been blocked at least 6 times and surprisingly none of them has been indefinite. People believe in you and you constantly disappoint them. In this unblock request I see no regret, no promise to follow the rules, but accusing other people. The fact that there is other crap in Commons is not a reason to upload your own crap. The same is for relationship between users: if the other people make unconstructive edits, then this is not a reason to make unconstructive edits yourself. Most of your blocks arouse due to your bad edits and this unblock request does not give hope for better future, so I must reject it. You are autopatroller – I think, that this is not good due to your many mistakes, so I revoke this right. Of course, after block expiring you can again apply for autopatroller flag. Taivo (talk) 09:39, 25 January 2019 (UTC)"
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IMHO #Nonsense edits in certain categories can’t fix some other nonsense by third parties. The user may be admitted to the [edit] button, and even could be permitted to categorize files, but I don’t expect any mild solution—short of categorical (pun intended) prohibition to touch anything in the namespace 14 with possible exception for red categories—to have merit. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 12:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Any chance of repeating that in English?--Petebutt (talk) 15:06, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Extrapolaris (talk) 01:37, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

Drawings and images of the Junkers Ju 287 V2

I recently got copies of the books Junkers Ju 287: The World's First Swept-Wing Jet Aircraft by Horst Lommel and Jet Planes of the Third Reich: The Secret Projects, Volume 2 by Manfred Griehl, and even though some historical Nazi aviation sources considered the EF 131 to be the same as the Junkers Ju 287 V2/V3 and the Junkers Ju 287 V3 to be the armed prototype, the drawing that the Airwar.ru website on the Ju 287 identifies as the Ju 287 V2 actually depicts the Ju 287 V3, because drawings and photos of the Ju 287 V2 on pages 51 and 70-74 of Lommel's book clearly show that it had the same airframe as the Ju 287 V1 except that it was powered by six turbojets, the tailwheel was removed, and the horizontal stabilizer was set 30 cm lower. The Ju 287 V3 indeed had the same airframe as the Ju 287A-1 but lacked armament, and the drawing labeled as the Junkers Ju 287 V3 at the Airwar.ru link on the Ju 287 actually is of the Ju 287A-2, because the Ju 287A-2 was to have two of its six Junkers Jumo 004s mounted on the sides of the fuselage, and the remaining four mounted in pairs below the wings.

As a side note, three more prototypes of the Junkers Ju 287 were ordered, of which V5 was to be the first armed Ju 287 prototype, and the V4 was to be the prototype of the Ju 287A-2 (see page 293 of Griehl's book).

Therefore, you may want to upload images from Lommel and Griehl's books of the Junkers Ju 287 V2 before and after being destroyed by the Germans to avoid capture by the Allies. That said, even though the EF 131 was a different plane than the Junkers Ju 287 V2 in having armament, the V2 did not have the same airframe as the production Ju 287 or EF 131 an instead had the same airframe as the first Ju 287 prototype.Extrapolaris (talk) 02:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

Why are these images put up for deletion by a known sockpuppet?--Petebutt (talk) 02:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
The image I nominated for deletion comes from a web link that's no longer active. Also, the image was incorrectly labeled Ju 287 V2 when in fact it is of the Ju 287 V3. You can inform Greg Goebel that the image I've nominated for deletion that he created actually depicts the Ju 287 V3 because the V2 had the same airframe as the V1.Extrapolaris (talk) 02:26, 7 November 2019 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

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