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94.196.196.84 10:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

--147.30.131.240 10:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Vlot werk.

Zover bedankt. Ik heb je met de watchlist en F5-toets gevolgd. Dat ging snel. Ben je nu klaar, of moet je deze nog doen [1] ? --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

De laatste loodjes ? Clin: Deze maken geloof ik, de telling vol [2] ; [3] ; [4] . --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Er staan nog 246 files onder bovenstaande link 5, 39 onder link 6, 220 onder link 7 en 43 onder link 8. Als de link niet opent, even klikken op het donkerblauwe PSID nummer en/of F5--Havang(nl) (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@Havang(nl): Ik gebruik https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=10533988 . Zal ik die {{PD-self}} ook maar voorzien van cc-zero? De laatste 50 die er dan overblijven moet je denk ik even handmatig doen. Multichill (talk) 14:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
OKE, Ik kijk wat er overblijft na je actie. self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all|migration=redundant en nog andere varianten van redundant en CC-BY-SA-all komen voor, die doe ik intussen, tenzij dat je botwerk verstoort. --Havang(nl) (talk) 14:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
PD-self waren de foto's van voor 2010, daar zaten nog wat verkeerd gecategoriseerde tussen. Na controle miste ik nog 80 files, en die 80 verschenen met jouw link net hierboven. Het lijken typefouten CC=Zero ... Dus die ga ik nog doen. Wat een varieteit aan licenties, met als die verschillende wizards. Intussen heb je toch maar even drie uur werk gedaan, dat maakt je uitval over renaming meer dan goed Clin . Heel veel dank. --Havang(nl) (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

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94.196.196.84 10:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

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Vlot werk.

Zover bedankt. Ik heb je met de watchlist en F5-toets gevolgd. Dat ging snel. Ben je nu klaar, of moet je deze nog doen [5] ? --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:37, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

De laatste loodjes ? Clin: Deze maken geloof ik, de telling vol [6] ; [7] ; [8] . --Havang(nl) (talk) 12:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Er staan nog 246 files onder bovenstaande link 5, 39 onder link 6, 220 onder link 7 en 43 onder link 8. Als de link niet opent, even klikken op het donkerblauwe PSID nummer en/of F5--Havang(nl) (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@Havang(nl): Ik gebruik https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=10533988 . Zal ik die {{PD-self}} ook maar voorzien van cc-zero? De laatste 50 die er dan overblijven moet je denk ik even handmatig doen. Multichill (talk) 14:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
OKE, Ik kijk wat er overblijft na je actie. self|GFDL|cc-by-sa-all|migration=redundant en nog andere varianten van redundant en CC-BY-SA-all komen voor, die doe ik intussen, tenzij dat je botwerk verstoort. --Havang(nl) (talk) 14:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
PD-self waren de foto's van voor 2010, daar zaten nog wat verkeerd gecategoriseerde tussen. Na controle miste ik nog 80 files, en die 80 verschenen met jouw link net hierboven. Het lijken typefouten CC=Zero ... Dus die ga ik nog doen. Wat een varieteit aan licenties, met als die verschillende wizards. Intussen heb je toch maar even drie uur werk gedaan, dat maakt je uitval over renaming meer dan goed Clin . Heel veel dank. --Havang(nl) (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Probleem parent category=subcategory.

Dag Multichill, Kun je eens kijken naar Category:Inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile die de parent categorie is van 332 persoonscategorieen, maar tevens subcategorie is van al die 322 persooncategorieen. Mijn voorstel zou zijn, onder parent category Category:People of France by status een nieuwe categorie te plaatsen Categorie:People inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile een deze nieuwe categorie niet als subcategorie, maar als tekstverwijzing opnemen in de categoriepagina Category:Inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile. Door het grote aantal zouden de wijzigingen met een bot kunnen gebeuren. Is dit een oplossing voor dit specifieke probleem parent category=subcategory ? --Havang(nl) (talk) 09:49, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@Mike Peel: . Switching to English. Category:Inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile is full of clutter. First category is Category:Jean Charles Abbatucci. The {{Wikidata Infobox}} makes that Category:Jean Charles Abbatucci ends up in Category:Inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile. I don't think that's intentional. Can you have a look? Multichill (talk) 10:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
It's being added because Jean Charles Abbatucci (Q727261) has award received (P166)=names inscribed under the Arc de Triomphe (Q1313340), which in turn has category for recipients of this award (P2517)=Category:Names inscribed under the Arc de Triomphe (Q9557338), with a commons sitelink of Category:Inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile. That's the normal route that's followed by the infobox to add awards categories, so you'd need to change some part of that for the infobox to stop adding this category. Hope that helps. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:19, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Is it possible to change in names inscribed under the Arc de Triomphe (Q1313340) the award winners item Names inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile into People inscribed on the arc the triomphe and then study how to avoid that bad commons sidelink ? --Havang(nl) (talk) 17:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
I've created Category:People inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile and Category:People inscribed on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile (Q66442436), and moved the subcategories there, does that make sense? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 20:34, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
I think that the problem is solved now, I removed the cross-linking categorie and the line « See also: Category:inscriptions on the Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile» and a corresponding line in this category. I go check if this works. Thanks--Havang(nl) (talk) 16:24, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
There is a substantial reduction of number of cross-linked files between those persons and war memorials in France https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=10580568, so that's a good improvement. --Havang(nl) (talk) 16:39, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

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Themightyquill (talk) 12:03, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments 2019


Hallo Multichill,

bald ist es soweit: Vom 1. bis zum 30. September 2019 findet zum neunten Mal der internationale Wettbewerb Wiki Loves Monuments statt. Dabei können Bau- und Kulturdenkmale fotografiert und die Fotos hochgeladen werden. Du hast an einem der vergangenen Fotowettbewerbe teilgenommen. Deshalb laden wir dich ein, dieses Jahr wieder mitzumachen. Wir freuen uns auf deine Fotos!

Es sind viele spannende Motive überall in Deutschland zu fotografieren. Neben beeindruckenden märchenhaften Schlössern, Burgen und Kirchen können auch andere Kulturdenkmale wie Brücken, Industrieruinen, Bauernhöfe oder Parks fotografiert werden, um sie unter anderem in der Wikipedia zu dokumentieren. In den letzten Jahren sind zahlreiche neue Denkmallisten entstanden, die sich über Fotos freuen. Für die Suche nach Motiven gibt es bei Wikipedia zahlreiche Listen und Karten. Als Einstieg hilft diese Übersichtsseite. Weitere Informationen erhältst du auf der Mitmach-Seite.

Du bist interessiert, am Wettbewerb mitzuwirken, dir fehlt aber die richtige Technik? Dann wirf doch mal einen Blick in den Technikpool und das Technikleihportal von Wikimedia Deutschland! Dort findest du Kameras, Objektive und Zubehör verschiedenster Art. Sollte noch Technik fehlen, die aber in Zukunft unbedingt benötigt wird, dann freut sich Wikimedia Deutschland über dein Feedback zum Technikpool.

Außerdem laden wir Dich ein, ab Mitte September 2019 an der Vorjury teilzunehmen. Diese bewertet die hochgeladenen Bilder und ermittelt so gemeinsam mit der Jury, die im Oktober tagt, die Sieger von Wiki Loves Monuments 2019 in Deutschland. Das Vorjurytool ist hier bald freigeschaltet. Du benötigst dafür nur deinen Benutzernamen und das Passwort.

Für Fragen steht das Organisationsteam gerne auf der Support-Seite zur Verfügung.

Viel Spaß und Erfolg bei größten Fotowettbewerb wünscht dir im Namen des Organisationsteams --Z thomas 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

GPS-data unreliable.

Dag Multichill, de GPSdata van mijn camera('s) zijn onbetrouwbaar, zie Commons:Village pump#GPS-data unreliable. Wat vind je van de voorgestelde oplossing en kun jij dat uitvoeren? Vr gr. --Havang(nl) (talk) 15:53, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Wheelwarring

Je weet heel goed dat je buiten je boekje bent gegaan door al die bestanden te undeleten zonder netjes een UDR te starten. Wie denk je wel dat je bent om jezelf even als een soort superadmin boven anderen te plaatsen. Niet collegiaal en ook niet volgens de procedures. Echt schandalig dit. Jcb (talk) 20:08, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Nee, ik ben helemaal niet buiten mijn boekje gegaan. Ik heb foto's die op onjuiste gronden zijn verwijderd hersteld. Je moet toch blij zijn dat dit probleem nu eindelijk is opgelost?
De orginele werken zowel 2D als 3D zijn in het publiek domein, om dat aan te geven heeft Creative Commons de Public Domain Mark 1.0, zie https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/mark/1.0/deed.en
Het Rijksmuseum claimt (en heeft) copyright op alle foto's die in de Rijksstudio staan om ze daarna onder de CC0 1.0 Universal (CC0 1.0) Public Domain Dedication vrij te geven, zie https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/deed.en
Fijne avond, Multichill (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Jij bent net als ieder ander verplicht om een UDR te gebruiken ipv te gaan wheelwarren, dat weet je heel goed. Wat er op dit moment op de site van het Rijksmuseum staat is dat de objecten PD zijn. Jij hebt gehandeld op basis van wat je denkt dat er had moeten staan. Je had beter je tijd en energie kunnen gebruiken om te zorgen dat op hun website datgene staat dat jij denkt dat ze bedoelen. Met power play kun je wel even je zin krijgen, maar dat is natuurlijk geen duurzame oplossing, zeker niet als je nog langer moet samenwerken met collega's. Jcb (talk) 20:29, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
Nee hoor, op https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/nl/api/api/gebruiksvoorwaarden / https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/api/terms-and-conditions-of-use gaat het gewoon over data en afbeeldingen. Multichill (talk) 08:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Cross-checking monument IDs with Wikidata to add Commons sitelinks

I'm quickly re-running this for my usual set of Commons templates vs. Wikidata IDs, e.g. [9], to catch any that have changed over the last few months. The IDs I've checked are:

Are there any others it would be useful for me to run through? I'm minimising my monument-related edits now ahead of WLM, although I would have liked to have pushed for the adoption of {{MonumentID}} (e.g., see File:At Paraty, Brazil 2017 107.jpg) more than I had the time to do. :-) Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:00, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

@Mike Peel: the list is probably much longer than that I think, see also Category:Cultural heritage monuments with known IDs. One I recently created is Rijksmonument complex ID (P7135) = {{Rijksmonumentcomplex}}. I would me careful with the start of WLM to not break anything. To me {{MonumentID}} looks like a bad approach. Why introduce some new template when you can just pull it from the structured data using LUA? With LUA access to the local data, we can just go over the depicts statements and use some logic to display whatever template we like without changing the wikitext. Multichill (talk) 10:41, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
OK, let me know if there are any particular ones it would be useful to run through. My plan with {{MonumentID}} is to connect that with Depicts statements once they become available, then we no longer need the locally defined QIDs. It's better to link to the Wikidata item (with a hopefully easy migration plan for the future) rather than storing more data in templates here. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 10:45, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
BTW, MonumentID is a spin-off of the {{Wikidata Infobox}} code, which is quite well tested nowadays. I wouldn't call it "barely a prototype" as you have done below. Mike Peel (talk) 13:35, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Template ID

Hi Multichill, You have more insight in this matter, please have a look to this change. I suspect in it is not ready? Thanks! Romaine (talk) 12:10, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

@Romaine: , see previous topic, {{MonumentID}} is barely a prototype and shouldn't be used anywhere in this state, let alone in a big photo competition that is starting in less than 24 hours. Multichill (talk) 12:13, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
In the monument lists (like w:pt:Wikipédia:Wiki Loves Monuments 2019/Portugal/Lista/Lisboa) there are now different IDs then before. Changing back to Template:WLM-PT will break it too, as the old monument IDs are mixed with Wikidata IDs. Romaine (talk) 12:30, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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