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File:Vote “No” sign at Richmond Christian School voting centre in Ballina NSW 03 (cropped).jpg

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A1Cafel (talk) 06:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi there @A1Cafel - I've seen your work, thanks for all you do. I didn't upload the original image, I did a cropped copy (using the automated crop tool), so I can't vouch for its provenance, I suppose I assumed that the uploader had sorted that issue out themselves. Might have been an incorrect assumption on my part. I see your logic, completely, and, to remove risk, will remove the image. Thanks again MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:27, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

File:Labor Senator for NSW, Deborah O'Neil (cropped).jpg

{{Permission pending}} ITBF (talk) 17:57, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @ITBF,
This image originally came from the Flickr account of someone called Madelein Ren who had released the image under Public Domain. While I don't have the software to check, I'm sure you're right that the image was originally taken by someone in the Auspic team in Parliament here in Canberra. I made an inquiry to what is think is the relevant Parliamentary department this morning and now know that the photographer from the Auspic team team had, indeed, made released the image to the creative commons. I will now see if someone in the Parliament can send some kind of document confirming this release of copyright to the public domain to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org
I understand there are further instructions I need to follow here (replace the copyvio tag with the OP tag I think?) and I will do my best to follow them now.
Best regards,
Matthew MatthewDalhousie (talk) 23:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
I have no experience in this process, but as I do have the assurance that written permission does exist, and that it will soon be sent to COM:VRT I am now asked to replace the copyvio tag with the tag "subst:OP" which I will now do. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 23:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Just to update you @ITBF, have followed up with the relevant Parliamentary Services folks today, as many public servants are back in Canberra now. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Bother it all! Have just learnt that:
1. This image has now been deleted!
2. The photographer at AusPic returns to work tomorrow!
Ah well. I have tried @ITBF, I have tried. I may have to ask that photographer to help me re-start the whole process.
MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Please, edit this file's description

You cropped out two persons from the United Kingdom's Home Office original photograph, so the original file description is not correct for your altered version.

Why did you crop out those two G7 Attendees?

Do you know who they are?

See File:UK Security Minister Tom Tugendhat with some other attendees at the G7 Interior and Security Minister's Meeting in Mito, Japan, 2023.jpg Thanks, -- Ooligan (talk) 07:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Ooligan - the wider shot with is still here at wiki, [1], nothing has been deleted! And you're absolutely free to use that wider shot on a relevant article. I used a cropped version of the image because it was being used on an article about a particular person, and I felt it was important to be able to see that person's face. That's all. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:51, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Oh, and if you could tell me the names of all the attendees in that image, I would be very happy to add them in the caption. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:52, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
I've added names for the people I could identify. I'm unable to identify the man on the far-right of the picture. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Excellent work! MatthewDalhousie (talk) 01:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

File:UK Security Minister Tom Tugendhat with some other attendees at the G7 Interior and Security Minister's Meeting in Mito, Japan, 2023.jpg

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Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

As per the discussion, my understanding is it's okay to crop images if it's for a good purpose, in this case i made a duplicate of the image, and cropped it, so that we could see some of the people's faces clearly. The original wide shot is, of course, still in the commons and may be used for articles where it's about the wider group. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)


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BadzilBot (talk) 16:34, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Always good to check this, and I found this a really helpful short article here.
In short, all US government images are published to the public domain and there are no copyright restrictions.
MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
It is your responsibility as an uploader to input correct information in the Upload file process. This information includes author and license. In case you haven't, you should read COM:FLICKRWASHING which this is. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 23:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
At this point, I would appreciate it personally if you assumed good faith in your dealings with me. I hope that's okay. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you feel this way. I now understand that you're (was?) confused about Public Domain and Creative Commons. Most of the pictures you uploaded can probably stay on Commons, as long as they're correctly attributed and licensed. Please help with this effort. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 03:04, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I absolutely will help make that effort @Cryptic-waveform. Some of the images have been provided to flickr as creative commons, but will do all I can to find the confirmation statements. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 04:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

You see, an issue with bad metadata is that when images are republished, they are now incorrectly attributed. See asser.nl for example. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 02:53, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

I do see that issue, and I feel extremely embarrassed about it. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 11:48, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
I've reached out to the author of the article and asked them to correct the attribution.Cryptic-waveform (talk) 12:02, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Yes, that's a good idea. Thank you. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 20:54, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Australian images

Hi MatthewDalhousie, thanks for your contributions. Could you please ask the creators of your non-US-government images (eg the Australian ones) to use this tool to clarify their release of the images in the public domain? Thanks! — Frostly (talk) 17:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Frostly - I didn't even know that tool existed! Appreciate it!
MatthewDalhousie (talk) 02:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
@Frostly Great little tool, and I'm organising the photographer, Michael to use the process. Thanks for pointing it out to me.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 06:49, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
@MatthewDalhousie, no problem, happy to help! — Frostly (talk) 08:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
Okay @Frostly in some cases i had to send on the permissions that had been sent to me, using the format and system you put forward, I think I've covered all the non-military images now. I also used that template you suggested indicating US Government public domain protocols. There are a couple of shots where it was non-US personnel who had take the shot, but they were published to the US military site dvidshub.net and all of them are marked "Public Domain", so I think that should be okay. Thanks again for your suggestions.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 10:35, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
@FrostlyI've also corrected all of the "author" fields. That really is a trap for young players using the Flickr wizard thing - there's no option to nominate the author, it just assumes that the author is the same as the account which ain't necessarily so. Just has to be corrected manually, no getting around it.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 10:41, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Please use the correct license tag and prefer origin sources and descriptions

See my modifications to your most recent upload: Revision #838503051. Beware that CC is different than public domain. This is also true for CC-0. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:16, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Author of Ian Langford pictures

Are you the author of these pictures? If not, could you fix the author fields? Thanks. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 14:53, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

I believe those author fields are correct. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I've checked those fields and they are correct. May I ask, are you deliberately looking through all my past work to try and find issues? It's beginning to feel that way. 22:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC) MatthewDalhousie (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Great. Thank you for checking.

May I ask, are you deliberately looking through all my past work to try and find issues?

Yes, I did. And as you can see, I did find plenty of issues which I brought to your attention, and made changes to the files you uploaded to bring them to Commons standard. I have vetted all your files and the only outstanding issues are covered by the 3 separate deletion requests I've opened.
I understand that this is not pleasant for you, but there is no other way to go about it. Cryptic-waveform (talk) 03:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
You seem to be assuming that you're in some kind of position of authority, and you're not seeing that the way you're behaving is domineering. I plainly state here that you have neither the power nor the authority for "vetting" unless there is a secret clause to your wikimedia commons account that you have, so far, not disclosed. I am not experiencing you as a fellow editor approaching things in with the assumption of good faith. I'm plainly asking you to please back away from interaction for a good while, ask for some perspective from a mature editor who you respect and trust, and move on from there. Sincerely. I'm asking you to do that.MatthewDalhousie (talk) 03:29, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
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