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Estopedist1 (talk) 06:50, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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Pedido de divulgação

DarwIn, Joseolgon, GualdimG, Tm, Tuvalkin:Foi posta em discussão a alteração da Category:Porto para Category:Porto (city) - aqui. Eu, em princípio estou em desacordo, e solicito a quem tenha capacidade/esteja disposto a expor a sua argumentação (em Inglês?) que o faça e que divulgue esta discussão a possíveis interessados em colaborar na mesma. Obrigado --JotaCartas (talk) 23:07, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

  • Poderão usar esta página para expor sucintamente argumentos, e eu inicio.
  • Esta pseudo solução não poderá nunca ser 'a solução' pois o problema não existe:
  • 1 - Durante os 10 anos que trabalhei na 'Categoria:Porto' so tive que retirar no máximo umas 20 imagens pertencentes a outros locais chamados Porto, por falta de desambiguação.
  • 2 - Tanto quanto pude encontrar, só existe uma outra localidade it:Porto (città antica) com unicamente a palavra 'Porto' no seu título, cuja notoriedade é claramente inferior à cidade do Porto. Há pelo menos 40 localidades (seguramente mais) chamadas unicamente 'Paris'. Passa então a ser Paris (France) ? - give me a break — Preceding unsigned comment added by JotaCartas (talk • contribs) 2020-01-27 23:58:19‎ (UTC)
  • Por mim deveria usar-se "Oporto" no Commons, mas tá bem. Para não baralhar o esquema, fico de fora desta discussão, até por que os argumentos apresentados pelo OP são um disparate (ainda que alguma da oposição seja também disparatada). -- Tuválkin 02:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
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Huntster (t @ c) 05:04, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please stop

You had already done this before, and I had reverted you with an explanation in the edit summary. This is not in the interior of a lighthouse. It is in the Coast Guard Museum/Northwest, in Seattle. The museum is not a lighthouse. My edit summary when I reverted you before was perfectly clear: "revert: remove Category:Interiors of lighthouses in the United States, this is in a museum".

If you think I'm wrong, then let's discuss, don't just make the same edit again after you have been reverted with an explanation. - Jmabel ! talk 16:59, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Jmabel, OK, Stoped. Sory, I was making several batch categorizations and I didn't saw your reversions. Sometimes errors occurs but I will be more careful in the future. --JotaCartas (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
But this is equally wrong, and I have also reverted. Having one or two Fresnel lenses in a military/maritime museum doesn't make it a "lighthouse museum". - Jmabel ! talk 17:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Jmabel, OK, Understood --JotaCartas (talk) 17:28, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

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Lisboa

Assim, não, p.f.: A ideia é manter estas fotos em Category:Lisbon até estarem categorizadas convenientemente: Tipo isto. -- Tuválkin 06:15, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Tuvalkin, Ok, já parei. Também só encontrei umas dezenas que já estavam mais localizadas. Ex: um turista no cais das colunas, classificado em "street photogrphy" e em "Cais da colunas" ficou nestas categorias mas saiu de "Lisbon", assim com o um no Jardim da Gulbenkian , é desnecessário estar em Lisbon. De toda a forma, PAREI abç--JotaCartas (talk) 06:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Tuvalkin, No entanto, se a ideia é classificar em : pessoa sentada, vestida de vermelho, a olhar para a esquerda, com óculos etc etc etc, eu não estou interessado em fazer isso, e creio que aqui, cada um só faz o que lhe interessa, desde que não faça asneiras. Assim mesmo sé o pretende fazer, encontra todas essas fotos em "Street photography in Lisbon" e pode classificar o que muito bem entender, não havendo necessidade de também estarem em "Lisbon", i.e. estarem em "Cais das colunas" e "Lisbon" é "Overcategorization", não recomendado na Commons abç --JotaCartas (talk) 06:33, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Certíssimo, é COM:OVERCAT. Mas ninguém defende que se mantenham estas fotos Category:Lisbon indefinidamente. O que defendo (eu e outros) é que se use esta categoria como um “entreposto” onde se acumulam estas fotos para facilitar a sua dissiminação: Enquanto que é pouco eficaz usar o Cat-a-lot ou o VFC em categorias com poucos ficheiros, em “bateladas” de 200 vale a pena aplicar, em poucos segundos, coisas como Category:Anonymous people of Lisbon ou Category:Cais das Colunas às largas dúzias que se lhes adecuam. Ao fim de várias destas “penadas” fica a maior parte das fotos com a maior parte das categorizações necessárias — sem nos obrigar a trabalhá-las exclusivamente uma-a-uma; mais cedo ou mais tarde, Category:Lisbon é removido, mas entretanto cada foto já acumulou pelo menos algumas das categorias necessárias, permitinido dissiminação posterior. Manter estas fotos em Category:Lisbon para permitir uma melhor categorização (ver dois exemplos) é pois um objetivo consentâneo com as orientações Commons, e portanto é, tal como o COM:OVERCAT, um meio e não um fim. -- Tuválkin 14:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

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É preciso ter cuidado

com coisas destas. -- Tuválkin 16:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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Lighthouse Images

Well done for uploading all of those 3000 Flickr lighthouse files, I will help categorize those that I recognize as time allows. I added a ToC template to help navigate through the pages. Jokulhlaup (talk) 09:57, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Jokulhlaup, OK thank you, I'm also categorizing as much as I can. Any help is welcome --JotaCartas (talk) 14:26, 6 November 2020 (UTC).

Does the Albarnaz Lighthouse have a second or third order Fresnel lens?

Olá JotaCartas,

Reparei que corrigiu a categoria desta e desta imagem, o que desde já agradeço, pois desconhecia que as lentes de Fresnel se classificavam por ordens.

Encontrei no entando informações dissonantes sobre o tipo de lente instalado no Farol de Albarnaz: Esta base de dados classifica-a de facto como sendo de segunda ordem, mas a Autoridade Marítima Nacional diz que é de terceira ordem. A menos que tenha informação em contrário, julgo que a segunda fonte é mais fidedigna?

Muito obrigado, Julesvernex2 (talk) 14:01, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Julesvernex2, Viva. Antes de mais, como pode verificar, classifiquei cerca 100 faróis por ordem de lentes de Fresnel, e não procurei todas as fontes existentes sobre cada um. Portanto são sempre possíveis alguns erros. A fonte que usei foi The Lighthouse Directory, que julgo ser a maior base sobre faróis de todo o mundo. - Quanto ao farol de Albarnaz, tem razão, deve-se acreditar mais nas fontes nacionais, porque em princípio deverão ser mais fidedignas. Vou alterar. Abraço. --JotaCartas (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Compreendo, obrigado e um abraço! Julesvernex2 (talk) 20:12, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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Please check your recent uploads from Flickr. Files from the British Museum are in Category:Lighthouse fresnel lenses. Senator2029 17:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Senator2029, oops, thank you. It happens, a mistake. I will correct --JotaCartas (talk) 17:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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