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Bonjour,

Merci de ne pas enlever la catégorie Category:Week-end gastronomie, Hermalle-sous-Huy, août 2012 sur les fichiers qui la contienne. Elle permet de référencer les photos prises lors d'un week-end rencontre en Belgique. Merci ! --M0tty (talk) 08:16, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jeanhousen, when filing cats for badname-speedy-deletion, you should first correct the interwiki-links on other projects. Otherwise, after deletion of the original cats, these links will be dead and users from the other projects angry. --Túrelio (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Sorry !.. it's done for all the stations on the Ourthe or Amblève lines - --Jean Housen 17:02, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. All deleted now. --Túrelio (talk) 18:07, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
That would be somewhat okay *if* User:Foroa did not silently restore the old categories afterwards *without* updating again links in Wikipedias. Now I have good reasons to be angry. Renaming categories without very good reasons nor wide agreement is a very easy way to disrupt other Wikimedia projects and waste contributors' and users' time. — Bjung (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Renommage de catégories d'anglais en français

Bonjour,

Je vois que tu "traduits" de l'anglais vers le français des noms de catégories. Je ne sais si ceci est opportun à chaque fois.

Pour une chapelle classée, connue sous son nom français dans de décret de classement, oui. Mais traduire "Dampremy-La Planche train station" vers "Gare de Dampremy-La Planche" moins. Et ce ne serai certainement pas opportun pour l'ensemble des stations de métro de Charleroi, par exemple. Un nom tel que "Beaux-Arts metro station (Charleroi)‎" dit le nom de l'objet, le quoi et où. Et permet d'avoir la liste en ordre alphabétique sans code complémentaire.

Bien à toi.

--Jmh2o (talk) 13:51, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Je t'invite également à attribuer une catégorie à bon essentient : rien de plus frustrant que de faire de recherche par catégorie et de voir que la photo est mis dans une catégorie pour un détail insignifiant, à la limite du visible. Comme par exemple cette photo File:Dampremy-Maison communale 1869.jpg dans la catégorie "Post boxes in Charleroi". Ou celle ci File:Jumet - Hôtel de Ville.jpg dans "street mirrors in Charleroi". Il en va de même pour car parks où l'on voit une voiture parquée sur une photo dont le sujet est tout autre. Merci de "bien" choisir les catégories. --Jmh2o (talk) 14:00, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Bonjour, Pour les stations de métro, bien d'accord : il suffit de se conformer à l'usage, et pas seulement à Charleroi : à Paris, on parle de prendre le métro au "Châtelet", de descendre à "Bercy" etc, à Bruxelles ce sera "Arts-Lois / Kunst-Wet", etc. Par contre pour les gares de chemin de fer, il me paraît beaucoup plus judicieux d'adopter le nom du bâtiment tel qu'il est d'usage là où se trouve, comme dans la catégorie "Train stations in Paris", on trouve la "Gare du Nord" et pas "Paris north train station", et à "Train stations in Berlin", on trouve "Berlin Hauptbahnhof" et pas "Berlin central train station", et cela vaut aussi pour les ponts, le nom "colle" au bâtiment ; dans la catégorie "Bridges in Florence", on a le "Ponte Vecchio" et pas "Old Bridge", etc.

Pour ce qui est du mobilier urbain et autres objets ou éléments que l'on trouve dans les vues de villes ou de campagne, je m'attache principalement à dresser un état des lieux au point de vue de l'aménagement urbain et de la qualité des paysages en général : quand il y a un aménagement expressément conçu pour y parquer des voitures, avec plaque "P", aménagements au sol etc, pour moi il s'agit bel et bien d'un aménagement, qui a nécessité une préparation (plan, terrassement, etc); et qu'il s'agit bel et bien d'un "construction" au sens strict un "building" ; cela vaut aussi pour les boîtes postales et tous ces objets de mobilier urbain qui structurent notre environnement, et dans ce sens il est d'autant plus intéressant de les avoir dans des vues "contextuelles", plutôt que des gros plans. Imaginez par exemple qu'on dispose de photographies de rues dans le passé, il y aurait un tas d'éléments qui ont aujourd'hui disparus et ces photos parleraient des paysages urbains avec tous ces "détails" significatifs ; pour prendre un dernier exemple, il est vraisemblable qu'au train où vont les choses, les cabines téléphoniques, et peut-être les boîtes postales plus tard, vont complètement disparaître.

Enfin pour terminer, je dirai qu'une photographie, si ce n'est pas un gros plan, est souvent polysémique, et qu'il est réducteur parce qu'elle présente principalement 1 aspect du réel de négliger toutes les autres informations qu'elle véhicule. --Jean Housen 15:06, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Je ne suis pas du tout d'accord de mélanger les règles de nommage des stations de train en Belgique. --Foroa (talk) 15:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Bon : en tout cas, je ne vais pas me lancer dans une guerre d'édition ; mais je dirai cependant que "ne pas être du tout d'accord" est un argument un peu mince, sans justifications, que par ailleurs ce qui vaut pour les "églises", "château", "cimetière", "pont", etc en français, pour les "kirche", "schloss", "burg", "bahnhof", "friedhof", "brücke" etc en allemand, pour les "kasteel", "kerk", "begraafplaats", "brug", etc en néerlandais, ne vaudrait pas pour les "gare" ou "station" en Belgique ? Il y a là une subtilité et un illogisme que je ne comprends pas. --Jean Housen 16:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Moi non plus je ne me lancerai pas dans une guerre d'édition. Je souhaite simplement "la moindre surprise". Quand j'ai créer les catégories et à l'exception du patrimoine classé (mais là aussi, pas de soucis pour modifier ce qui existe), j'ai pris le "nom" tel que dans la langue du pays y ajoutant ce que c'est et où cela se trouve.
Donc : "Charleroi-Sud train station", car "Charleroi-Sud' est le nom. Tout comme "Maison Dorée (Charleroi)" ; "Golden house" me poserait problème. Et je n'aime pas "Church of the Conversion of Saint Paul (Mont-sur-Marchienne)‎", Je peux toutefois accepter "Conversion de saint Paul (Mont-sur-Marchienne), church" si "Église de la Conversion de saint Paul (Mont-sur-Marchienne)" pose problème.
Bien à vous.
--Jmh2o (talk) 17:31, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Il me semble tout à fait évident que c'est pour tout le monde plus intéressant et plus simple d'avoir une structure de nommage symétrique à travers tous le pays dans Category:Train_stations_in_Belgium, indépendant s'ils soient du côté Wallon, Bruxellois, Allemand ou Flamand. En plus, des trajets qui impliquent plusieurs gares en plusieurs langues seront beaucoup plus facile à "lire", comme le Category:Line 34 (Infrabel), Category:Line 36 (Infrabel) (incomplets il me semble). --Foroa (talk) 17:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

You categorised the ship in Hasselt Belgium. In fact, it was Hasselt in the Netherlands. --Stunteltje (talk) 18:43, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Big mistake ! Thanks.--Jean Housen 19:10, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
No problem, I make my own. --Stunteltje (talk) 20:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Category system for Koblenz

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Nyttend (talk) 21:14, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Overcategorisation

Please, consider reading [Commons:Categories#Over-categorization the rules on categories] before redoing edits such as this or [1]. Overcategorisation should be avoid, otherwise we would end up with thousands of articles and files listed under the same category, which turns it useless and is what is explicitely intended to be prevented by creating specific subcategories. Best, Qoan (dis-me!) 03:30, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Dublin Airport categories (Category:Vehicles in Dublin Airport)

Hello!

You have created many grammatically incorrect subcategories. I had to let them all moved to the correct one. PLEASE keep in mind: vehicles are at an airport not in one. Regards, High Contrast (talk) 22:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Not a specialist in english grammar, but an aircraft land at an airport (where there's an anchorage), I'm not sure an automobile, or a Shell tank truck do that, they are indefinetely or temporarily located in this airport.

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Kastoria

Danke für die großartige, mühsame Arbeitǃ -- Kürschner (talk) 17:07, 31 August 2014 (UTC) Danke, es ist interessant und ich lerne eine Menge über das Geschäft der Pelz und Kastoria, wo ich noch nie gewesen (obwohl ich viele Orte in Griechenland zu sehen).--Jean Housen 20:01, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Besonders für mich als Kürschner waren es spannende 14 Tage. Ein Besuch dort lohnt sich auch sonst. -- Kürschner (talk) 07:28, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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Alsace

Bonjour,

lorsque vous créez une catégorie "Haut-Rhin", ayez toujours soin de vérifier que d'autres villes que Mulhouse puissent y être intégrées, je pense notamment aux vélos ( vous avez négligé Colmar ) et puis aussi à l'intégrer aux catégories "in Alsace" qui existent également dans la plupart des cas. Sans cela, vos efforts restent isolés et mal intégrés - ce que Mulhouse ne souhaite pas être ! :)

Cordialement, --Edelseider (talk) 17:22, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

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Why do you add [2] "Stairs in NRW" AND "Stairs in Germany" (not the only example)? Have you ever read COM:OVERCAT? --A.Savin 20:03, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Have you ever thought that all these categories of architectural elements by type and location can evolve and integrate into this category: Category:Architectural elements in Germany. In my view, the purpose of categories is not to hide images in pyramid categories but to create cross-links that allow fast searches, even for those who, for example, do not master perfectly all the nesting of administrative divisions Germany.--Jean Housen 20:34, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand your point? I'm perfectly fine with our existing policy on categorization. You may create sth. like "Stairs in Germany by city" if you wish, but do not violate COM:OVERCAT! --A.Savin 21:24, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello?? --A.Savin 12:07, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Staircase - treppenhaus (135589271).jpg

Would you please read the description of the file ("Staircase in the Volkshochschule Tempelhof-Schöneberg in Berlin") and after that explain me why you categorize it entirely to Cologne? Either you have not understood that those two cities are 700 kilometres far from each other or you are committing willingy vandalism. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 08:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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Category:Dormers

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Je suis d'accord avec toi concernant la demande de suppression de la photo : du grand n'importe quoi. Soit cependant attentif de ne pas supprimer des commentaires, surtout que le miens est favorable au maintient de la photo. N'oublies pas de signer tes propres commentaires. Bien à toi. --H2O(talk) 13:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Désolé pour le commentaire supprimé : il a été placé pendant que je rédigeais et j'ai pas saisi de suite pourquoi j'ai dû replacer le mien car la page avait été modifiée entre temps :-)--Jean Housen 14:15, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

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Merci de pas modifier MES catégories personnelles... Cordialement - --Wayne77 (talk) 09:14, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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C messier (talk) 09:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, all those files should be renamed, but not because of the date... On Commons names should describe as well as possible the object on the photo, for example: "Mercedes C330 coupe, Liege 20150805.jpg". The name of the city tells nothing -- it can't help other users in browsers.

Bonjour,
tous ces fichiers doivent être renommés, mais pas à cause de la date ... Sur les noms des communes doivent décrire aussi bien que possible l'objet sur la photo, par exemple: "Mercedes C330 coupé, Liège 20150805.jpg". Le nom de la ville dit rien - il ne peut pas aider les autres utilisateurs dans les navigateurs de trouver ce qu'ils recherchent. Wieralee (talk) 20:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


== Quelle confusion mentale  : les noms de fichiers ne doivent pas nécessairement refléter la complexité et les multiples informations contenues dans la photographie ; si vous privilégiez le contenu "immédiat", vous effacez les autres informations ; basiquement, une photo, c'est capturer un moment en un lieu : voilà pourquoi je nomme mes photos sur 2 critères : la date et le lieu. Ensuite, j'utilise les catégories pour affiner le classement de la photo. Pourquoi est-ce que "Mercédès 330 etc" devrait-il prévaloir sur le fait que la photo a été prise à Liège le 5 août 2015 : je ne suis pas un collectionneur d'album Pannini.--Jean Housen 21:28, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Hallo Jeanhousen

du kümmerst dich im Augenblick besonders um meine Bilder aus Thasos. Finde ich gut. Wieso hast du bei Medien in der Kategorie „xy in Thasos“ die frühen Jahre vergessen, z.B. aus 1.7.4 Thasos lead, zinc, silver mines aus dem Jahr 1920 ? Gruß --- Haubi (talk) 11:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC) == Well, it's done now :-) I find very interesting your photos: this is a good overview of daily life in Thasos ; most documentaries photos on wikimedia are very repetitive (the same monuments, places that all tourists visit , ...). Here one has a view of the rarest and least photographed aspects , such as economic activity that is the reality of a region and its inhabitants . --Jean Housen 16:47, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Excuse, why didn't you answer my question ? --- Haubi (talk) 20:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Catégories

Bonjour, un grand merci pour cet excellent et minutieux travail de catégorisation ! JeanBono (talk) 11:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Rhônexpress TGV

Le Rhônexpress n´est pas un train mais un tram. Un autre probleme est que la gare de Lyon-Saint Exupéry ne se trouve pas dans Lyon n y meme dans l´aglomeration de Lyon, mais dans la commune de Colombier-Saugnieu. D´autre part pour la categorisation ont n´est pas tellement stricte.Smiley.toerist (talk) 08:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Mairies in France

Bonjour Jeanhousen. J'ai l'impression que tu as un peu oublié le côté anglophone dominant de commons, ces derniers temps. La category:Mairies in France existait déjà sous la forme category:Town halls in France et n'avait donc pas à être créée. Et il me semble donc que la category:Mairies in France by city devrait être renommée en category:Town halls in France by city. Cordialement. Père Igor (talk) 18:35, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Bonsoir. Je n'ai pas du tout perdu de vue que les catégories s'énoncent en anglais : il me paraît simplement que dans le cas des bâtiments de pouvoir et/ou d'administration communale/municipale, le terme "Town hall" peut bien sûr regrouper sous son égide un certain nombre de sous-catégories, pour certaines desquelles il n'existe pas de mots de traduction exact en anglais, car les bâtiments, dans un certain nombre de cas, c'est comme les personnes : cela porte un nom et/ou un prénom, qui ne se traduisent pas et qui sont souvent liés à un contexte culturel. En allemand par exemple, ce qu'on appelle "château" en français se distingue entre "schloss" (château de plaisance) et "burg" (château-fort). Tous les "palazzi" véntiens ne sont pas des "Palaces" au sens de Versailles, de Buckingham, de Blenheim, etc.

Dans le cas des bâtiments communaux en France, la distinction entre "Hôtel de ville" (au sens premier = les édifices qui marquent l'émancipation de la bourgeoisie, avec leurs beffrois ; ou au sens des édifices à la rhétorique affirmée des grandes villes industrielles du XIXe siècle, qui recourent pour leur hôtels de ville à tout le répertoire de l'éclectisme architectural) et "Mairie" traduit non seulement une différence de statut, mais aussi des typologies architecturales bien spécifiques, comme par exemple le très intéressant cas des mairie-écoles, ou des mairie-lavoirs, qui correspondent aussi à des contextes historiques et socio-culturel.

Donc j'essaie d'ouvrir mes yeux et je vois que dans le grand sac des "Town halls" il y a plein de choses très différentes, que j'essaie de ranger avec la plus grande pertinence, car il me semble que catégoriser c'est en quelque sorte créer du sens en assemblant des choses appareillables ; je ne vois donc pas du tout en quoi il faudrait supprimer ces catégories distinctives, qui, à l'aune des 36.000 communes de France, pourraient rassembler des photos de séries de bâtiments ayant entre eux des trais communs... --Jean Housen 19:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Moi ce sue je vois, c'est qu'un petit tour sur des dictionnaires basiques (Larousse, Petit Robert) indique que le nom générique du bâtiment est mairie, et que hôtel de ville n'est qu'une mairie particulière (celle d'une ville, étonnant non ? ), donc que la catégorisation actuelle n'est pas correcte. De plus, certaines municipalités ambitieuses ont fait graver à une certaine époque « Hôtel de ville » sur leur façade même si la commune en question est loin d'avoir été, ou d'être, qualifiée de ville. Père Igor (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

"Town hall of " vs "Mairie de"

Bonjour Jeanhousen

je ne comprends pas pourquoi vous renommez les categories "Town hall of xxx" par "Mairie de xxx " sachant qu'il est convenu que d'une manière générale on donnera un nom en anglais aux catégories communes à un maximum de langues.

D'autant plus que l'expression anglaise "Town hall" inclut les expressions françaises "hotel de ville" et "mairie".

Ce sujet ayant fait l'objet de très lognues discussions, je reverte vos changemenets (non discutés préalablement ou non justifies en commentaires) pour les categories don't je suis le créateur intial

Cordialement, --Poudou99 (talk) 17:47, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Lisez le commentaire juste au dessus ; par ailleurs il est TOUT-A-FAIT erroné de dire que "Town halls" englobe "Mairies" et "Hôtels de ville"' : pourquoi existe-t-il des mots différents, si ce n'est pour cerner des choses différentes ? voir la remarque ci-dessous à propos des "schloss" et "burg" en allemand qui sont des "castles" mais d'un type très différent : je pourrais multiplier les exemples à l'infini. Je ne suis pas du tout opposé à une uniformisation par l'anglais, mais quand elle crée un perte de sens, il faut recourir à des dénominations appropriées. --Jean Housen 17:53, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
En français (en France), le terme "hôtel de ville" indique précisément le bâtiment ou le siege de la mairie - le mot "mairie" étant l'organisme municipal. Mais il est vrai que l'on emploe souvent le mot "mairie" pour parler du bâtiment.
Ce n'est pas une raison pour casser les catégories mises en place depuis des années et surtout (sauf si j'ai raté quelque chose) de procéder à des changements aussi profonds dans les arborescences des categories sans concertation préalable. Ce que vous venez de faire a de très fortes conséquences que vous n'avez peut-être pas mesurées.
Il existe énormément de categories ayant des noms en anglais dans Common et qui englobent des lieux, des personnes, des objets,... situés en France. C'est un choix communautaire pour qu'une certaine uniformité de classification puisse profiter à un maximum de contributeurs ou d'utilisateurs de photos de Commons.
Je ne suis donc absolument pas d'accord avec vos choix de noms ni votre méthode de contribution
Cordialement, --Poudou99 (talk) 18:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Je viens de voir que vous avez procédez de la sorte (remplacement de ""Town hall of xxx" par "Mairie de xxx ") pour de nombreuses sous-catéegories relatives aux communes françaises. Comptez-vous faire la même chose pour "Churches of xxx", "Streets of xxx", "Train stations in xxx", "Bridges in xxx", "Buildings in xxx", "Events in xxx", "Landscapes of xxx", "History of xxx", (et j'en passe des dizaines et des dizaines) où "xxx" est le nom d'une commune française ? Si tel est votre projet, je vous souhaite bon courage.
Il serait sage, avant que les retours en arrière deviennent vraiment trop compliqués, que vous procédiez vous-même aux retours aux noms précédents. --Poudou99 (talk) 18:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Apparemment, vous soutaitez poursuivre vos changements de catégories unilatéralement. Ne pensez-vous pas cependant qu'il serait consensuel d'en discuter plus largement, notamment sur le bistro de Common (vous avez remarqué que nous sommes deux à vous avoir fait part de notre désaccord initial). --Poudou99 (talk) 20:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Je vous invite tous à venir en parler au bistro. --Medium69 You wanted talk to me? 21:42, 1 December 2015 (UTC)