User talk:Fry1989/Archive 9

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Hi Fry1989, after initially dupe-processing this image, following your request, I've now restored it after the protest (User_talk:Túrelio#Wrong_deletion_of_the_Albanian_flag_file) by the uploader, as it indeed differs from the alleged duplicate in the design of the birds tail. --Túrelio (talk) 08:07, 4 April 2020 (UTC)


How do you handle uploading files

Hey, I've been asked to help out on a Wikisource project, s:Index:UKSI19810859.pdf. We appear to have a lot of the stuff, and I think I might have or could create the outstanding stuff kind of easily, but uploading it the way I normally do it (I use the 'Old form', so I can do the information and templates in detail, and preview them.) I know you do a lot of file uploads, how do you handle it, do you just use the new/standard uploader or do you use a program?--The Navigators (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

@The Navigators: , hey. So I use Upload Wizard just because it is fast and easy, but I create all the information in a preview page first. I take any file really (preferably related to the image I am about to upload), click edit, fill out all the info, license, and categories as needed for my new file, and click preview. Then when I upload the new file in Upload Wizard, I put in the file name that I want and just type some nonsense in the other boxes that require to be filled, and the upload it. I then copy-and-paste my preview over onto the new file. You can see what I mean with this edit revision. It's sort of unorthodox, but it works for me. Fry1989 eh? 00:12, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Okay. I could make something like that work. Thanks. (Guess I'm not sure why I'm even bothering to try and avoid having to go back and make additional edits after upload, since I seem to end up doing so no matter what I do. Always something that escapes the eye on proof reading.)--The Navigators (talk) 16:42, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
You'll almost always miss something or find something new to add. That's just the way it is. Fry1989 eh? 17:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


Logos categories naming

Hi

Concerning the move Category:BBC logosCategory:Logos of the British Broadcasting Corporation - this move seems completely inconsistent with other similar categories. Every other category in Category:Logos of companies of the United Kingdom and Category:Logos of companies associated with mass media follows the XXXX logos convention rather than Logos of XXXX. It also seems unnecessarily long as a category name.

Is there a naming convention for categories of logos that I've missed? Thanks, Cnbrb (talk) 10:18, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Cnbrb: , I am not aware of a set convention, but I do believe that using the proper name of organisations would be better, especially where there may be conflict (the Australian ABC and the American ABC for example). Fry1989 eh? 17:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
This would create a naming problem if you're going to be consistent across all similar categories. Category:BBC television programmes will have to become Category:Television programmes of the British Broadcasting Corporation and so on. Also, I can see no consistency with any similar categories under Category:Logos of companies associated with mass media (CBS, ARD, RTVE....). With WP:COMMONNAME in mind, I think it best to stick to BBC logos. Cnbrb (talk) 19:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
On the other hand, it would be consistent with the master category naming for all sorts of imagery sorted by country into "Logos of France", "Flags of France", "Symbols of France", "Photographs of France", and such. I agree that a common scheme should be stuck to. I won't rename any logo categories again until a new one is so decided. Fry1989 eh? 22:35, 19 April 2020 (UTC)


Need your Eggspertise...

Could you have a peek at File:Test Brasil-svg.svg and compare to File:Coat of arms of Brazil.svg? The xml is on the talk page, I dumped it into inkscape with no changes. Thanks! C(_) --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:30, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I see no differnce other than the positioning within the viewbox. Fry1989 eh? 17:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Yep, same here. I thought I missed something. Thanks for peeking! --Hedwig in Washington (mail?) 04:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


Jamaican Road Signs

Out of curiosity, for Jamaican road signs, are you working off this or a newer manual? --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, GSW-FR(ALS). 03:58, 17 November 2019 (UTC)

@Nat: Yes, that is the manual I was using. If you know of a newer version, I would be very pleased to see it. Fry1989 eh? 16:51, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
The relatively new Ministry website indicates that they may be a new one but someone seems to have screwed the pooch / made an error, and now to the TCDM links leads to an non existent file. --Ìch heiss Nat ùn ìch redd e wenig Elsässisch!Talk to me in EN, FR, GSW-FR(ALS). 18:01, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Bastards, LOL. I found the manual I am using (and most of my manuals actually for other countries too) through Google searching, terms like "Jamaica road signs PDF" and the sort. Maybe the Ministry will fix their website in the future. Fry1989 eh? 19:49, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


Please help to make the Cambodian Ministry badge.

Hello..! Fry1989 Right now, a friend of mine who works in Cambodia has sent me a message that the Cambodian government has issued a svg ministry badge for ease of use in the civil service of Cambodia's ministries. before November 9th. Which is national day Have a badge to do(svg. File)

1.logo on national bank of cambodia 
2.logo on Ministry of Health. (Top priority)
3.logo on Ministry of Rural Development
4.logo on Ministry of Land Management, Urban Planning and Construction. (Top priority)
5.logo on Ministry of Water Resources and Meteorology
6.logo on Ministry of Justice
7.logo on Electricité Du Cambodge. (Top priority)

Thank you for coming here.🙏🏻😍 --มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 00:47, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

I will try to see if I can make any improvements, but I can not make any promises because it is a very complicated image. Fry1989 eh? 00:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
Okay, but you have to do the Ministry logo. Important first, in detail In case you can use the logo before Cambodia national Day

มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 17:16, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

I am very sorry, but I do not have the skills needed to make this image better. But I have found this PDF document with a higher resolution image of the logo of the Cabinet of Ministers on the first page. You can make a request in one of the Graphic Labs and show this and it should help a user with better skill to improve the image. I apologise. Fry1989 eh? 18:39, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
Okay.. Ah....!I understand the problem you are sending now.All of this, I can write a request for you to create a Ministry logo.Cut the logo from the Office of the Council of Ministers in Cambodia.That is the Ministry logo, I will bring people who are skilled in Cambodian art to make this logo instead.As for the other Ministry logos that I have written for, if any Ministry logos that you think are easy to do, do so in case you need them on National Day.I would like to thank you very much for explaining the problem and thank you very much. มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 16:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)


Requests

I will add it to my list. Fry1989 eh? 18:44, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
@Illegitimate Barrister: , see File:Montgomery County no vending sign.svg. Fry1989 eh? 19:40, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch. – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 22:20, 13 November 2019 (UTC)


Bulgaria

Hello! Fry 1989 I can't do road sign of Bulgaria because jammed in the Bulgarian language font that uses the sign and road signs model that is not clear almost all so if you don't mind, please do the Bulgaria road sign. Thank you very much ! --มองโกเลีย๔๔ (talk) 13:15, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

@มองโกเลีย๔๔: , I do not have any documents for Bulgaria. Do you have any sources? Fry1989 eh? 17:08, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
road sign of Bulgaria can be downloaded on this website.

http://www.api.bg/files/7414/5923/2608/Pravilnik_za_prilagane_ZDvP_2015.pdf มองโกเลีย๔๔ eh? 10:02, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

The images are not in SVG format and the PDF does not have construction sheets, so I will not be able to upload those signs. But I will look for other Bulgarian sources in the future. Fry1989 eh? 18:45, 17 April 2019 (UTC)


Request

Hello.

Can you add the borders of South Sudan in File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate-ar.png, File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate.png and File:Fatimid Islamic Caliphate He.png, because modern borders are superimposed on these maps and South Sudan has been forgotten. These maps are almost duplicates with the same colors and resolution but are language variants of each other.

Thank you.

31.200.17.228 08:29, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

I am sorry, but I do not know how to change PNG files. But if you make the request in the Graphic Lab, I am sure someone will be able to change the borders. Fry1989 eh? 20:32, 6 February 2018 (UTC)


Singapore

I saw that you removed the links. Isn't any link better than no link? If Wikipedia operated by that logic, the website would be a lot less trustworthy. Links become dead from time to time, sometimes they are replaceable, sometimes not. But is that a valid reason to remove them? Sorry if I seem harsh, but I'm just wondering. — VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:42, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I just messaged you at the same time you messaged me, hahaha. I usually only include links to my files if they are photographs. I just didn't think they were necessary, but I'll put them back in. Fry1989 eh? 19:45, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Well, what a curious timing coincidence! You're a cool guy for being able to change your mind after being presented with arguments. Just out of curiosity, do you find nitpicking annoying? On one hand, I'm a bit reluctant to bombard you with nitpicks regarding minor details about the files you've uploaded, but on the other hand, you seem to be someone who has an eye for detail, fixing symmetries and geometry unnoticeable to most people. — VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
I nitpick a lot. I am obsessive-compulsive about making my images as exact as I can, making the infoboxes efficient, colours being accurate, to the extent that sometimes I can't think straight. So I am no one to judge others for nitpicking. And I am always open to advice and concerns. Fry1989 eh? 19:57, 1 June 2018 (UTC)


Gross...

Won't lie, I might have felt a tiny bit sick when I saw this:

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/traffic-control-devices-manual/sign-specifications/view/1090?category=1032&subcategory1=&term=

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 14:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

@VulpesVulpes42: , I'm confused, what is gross about it? It looks like a normal sign to me. Fry1989 eh? 17:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Two of the symbols, the lookout and the camera, are copyrighted by Standard New Zealand. If one is to use them legally, one is supposed to purchase a CD ROM from them. Well, guess I'll have to live without the camera DL©.
Now, I'm obviously exaggerating a bit (OK, maybe a lot), but I genuinely find the degree to which the simplest of things are copyrighted nowadays a bit absurd. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 17:52, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't notice. But the NZTA licenses their diagrams under Copyrighted Free Use, so technically you don't need to worry about legality unless you're using them for profit and then things might get a bit complicated.
BTW a question regarding the Vienna Convention. Do you think I should do signs like the STOP sign and others with inscriptions in the 6 working languages of the UN? So far I've just done them in English. As a slight side note, I seem to be loosing steam a bit. I hope to complete the Convention but some days I really just feel so blah. I hate when that happens. Fry1989 eh? 18:07, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for replying so late. To be completely honest, I feel like both alternatives are completely logical. Not doing all 6 UN languages makes sense because a lot of countries which do not speak English still use "STOP" and the like. Doing the 6 UN languages also feels logical. If I were you, I'd probably begin with doing all the signs, and then deciding on whether or not to do the signs in the other languages. However, I ain't you, so the choice ultimately rests in your hands. - VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 06:55, 10 May 2018 (UTC)


Low bridge ahead?

It's weird, I cannot find this sign in the SDRE... yet you improved the sign with official dimensions. I also remember seeing this sign somewhere... am I going crazy? Is this perhaps a deprecated sign? You seem to know the answer, so I am going to let you explain. —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 18:34, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

It can be seen on Google Streetview on Stadium Road. My presumption is that it is a one-off, since I've not seen any examples anywhere else and it is not in the SDRE or any historical documents I have been able to find. It is only used on one approach to the low bridge, it is absent from the opposing approach. Fry1989 eh? 18:40, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
So when I remember seeing it, I probably remember that particular image file while browsing through the gallery. As for the dimensions and proportions, I presume that you simply replaced that awful font with the official one, and proportioned everything to be more in line with actual SDRE signs. Anyway, thank you for answering :) VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 18:45, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it appears to have the exact same proportions as the REDUCE SPEED NOW sign, so that is what I did. It is possible that area has had unusually frequent bridge strikes, or maybe some LTA employee ordered the sign without official approval. Fry1989 eh? 18:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


Ficta Voluptatis Causa Sint Proxima Veris

I am really curious about that link... will it ever go from red to blue? What is it all about? Is it a surprise? —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 13:00, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I have been here for about 10 years (time flies!). I have been blocked from editing as a sort of "time out" many many times, sometimes deserved, sometimes not. There is one admin in particular that doesn't like me and lied to get me blocked and took their vendetta to getting another admin to lose their rights. I even caught them in their lies, but nobody wanted to listen. It was a Latin phrase I created for myself because of the outrage I felt at the time. I intended to document those lies, but have since moved on. I keep it on my page so I do not forget how some admins here behave and get away with it. It will stay red. Fry1989 eh? 16:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
I feel your pain, Fry. We've fought in the trenches together. – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 08:46, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


St. Kitts and Nevis Coat-of-Arms

The Coat-of-Arms of St. Kitts and Nevis is not blue. https://www.gov.kn/ — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.21.165.158 (talk) 00:04, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

At that time, the Government of St. Kitts and Nevis depicted it in blue on their website and that is why I coloured it that way. Fry1989 eh? 17:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)


Heads-up

A concern about UK Traffic Signs Content, pursuant to a recent news item on the BBC website. Bidgee (talk) 23:09, 20 March 2018 (UTC)


Regarding Singaporean curve signs

You held off from doing the inner curves of the two curve signs. Wouldn't it be fair to assume that the radius of the inner curve is the radius of the outer curve minus the width of the stroke? — VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:15, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I tried two different methods. The first was based on the diagrams from the SDRE, which does not seem right at all since the inner curve is wider than the outer curve. But I did try and it still tripped me up. Then I tried the second way with the inner curve being that of the outer one minus the stroke as you suggest, but if I do that with the width of the stroke being 65mm, there is no room for an inner curve. Math was never my best subject, but I can't figure this out. But as a side note, I used Google Streetview and some of them appear to lack an inner curve anyway. Fry1989 eh? 19:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Just as a test, what about switching the inner and outer radiuses from the SDRE? —VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 20:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
I will try that some time in the future, but I am happy with the sign for now. Here's a streetview sign btw. Fry1989 eh? 21:09, 19 June 2018 (UTC)


Construction sheets for New South Wales road signs

Howdy! There is a good chance that you've already stumbled upon this, but in case you hadn't, I thought that I oughta let you know. Many signs don't currently have official specs, but for those that do, simply click on "View sign design plan" to get a useful PDF. Might be useful since Australia is still in your list of incomplete countries. Have a good one! VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 08:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

I did have that webpage at one time, and then I lost it. Thanks for finding it again. Fry1989 eh? 15:35, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


Horizontal lines

It can be hard to tell the difference between them on-screen, in some fonts more so than others. One distinguishing feature of the hyphen, aside from being short, is that it usually shares some features with the lettering, such as stem thickness, stroke termination, or nib angle. (Monoline and many sans-serif fonts have little to no ‘character’ in these respects.) Sometimes they’re even slanted or slightly tilde-shaped, and they’re often placed in a slightly different vertical position. Dashes are thin, featureless lines, and the en- and em-dashes differ only in length. (In monospaced fonts they can be especially hard to distinguish; in some of these the en-dash is made extra short to make it obvious.) Anyway, there’s nothing on Commons like en:WP:MOS (which BTW recommends some uses of dashes where IMO hyphens should be used instead), but for situations where uniformity is wanted, to separate the ends of a range English typographic style generally calls for an en-dash.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 22:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

After taking a much closer look, I was able to see the difference. It's rather embarrassing that all this time I had been using a hyphen rather than an en-dash. But thank you for setting me right. Fry1989 eh? 17:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)


Wales (working drawings)

Since you will do the UK in the future, I thought that you might benefit from working drawings for Welsh signs ([1]). You'll want to click on the red text that says "Traffic Signs Documentation" to expand the list of schedules. Then you can click on any of these schedules to see a list of PDFs. Doing Welsh bilingual signs is probably not your highest priority, but I thought that you having the link couldn't hurt, and I also know that you have done a bilingual yield sign for Wales. — VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I do have that source as well, but the problem with their PDFs is that the letters are broken into many pieces. That makes re-creating them more difficult. But it would be nice to do them some day. Fry1989 eh? 16:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)


Since you are working with Singapore...

I did not plan to contact you this many times in such a short timespan. Judging by the quality of the font, I would guess that you have the relevant chapter of the SDRE. Just to be sure though, I'll give you the link: [2] VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 19:55, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, I do have that document as well as 2 others from the SDRE. I check them against each other and so far they all match up. But you can contact me any time, I appreciate it. :) Fry1989 eh? 21:01, 2 June 2018 (UTC)


Did you notice the revert...

File:RomanianTrafficSign 30-Stop 1977.svg :-) Ronhjones  (Talk) 15:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

No, I didn't. Fry1989 eh? 18:43, 14 October 2018 (UTC)


Problem of Picture

File:شجرة نسب عشائر الدرابسة(شمر) -الطرة.jpg Hello Fry, there is a photo which is actually a picture of another picture, it is a family tree which was done in the mid of the nineteenth century, and in the same it is an own work of the uploader which seems to has something wrong. Hani Dani (talk) 21:10, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

I see the image, but what do you want me to do with it? Do you want me to change the license, or vote in the Deletion Request? Fry1989 eh? 17:55, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
I think that Hani Dani is worried that, while the photograph itself is own work and public domain, the depicted family tree has a separate copyright status, and I believe that that is the reason as to why he or she has nominated the file for deletion. VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 15:59, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
That is a valid concern, but I have nothing to do with the photo. Fry1989 eh? 18:10, 1 September 2018 (UTC)


SAVE FLAG OF MAURITANIA

Ciao, can you PLEASE save the File:Flag of Mauritania.svg from VANDALIC NOMINATION FOR DELETION (-> no valid reasons given for deletion)???? See "Revision history": user E4024. Please can you restored my implementation in this flag (see also "revision history") before locked it? GRAZIE/THANK YOU !!

The file won't be deleted. Fry1989 eh? 20:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)


Swedish Flag

Hi its me again from the talk page of the regular wiki, but how does any change happen to the flag now? Who edits the new change? --193.11.161.211 16:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Havsjö: , you will need to wait for more people to comment and a group decision. You may want to follow the Request for Comment process to bring it to the attention of more users. Fry1989 eh? 18:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, do you think some kind of change can be implemented to the flag? It has been almost a month now, but aside from us, nobody seems interested. I guess we have the opinions of us two + official government sources--Havsjö (talk) 17:26, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Because the file is protected, there isn't anything I can do without a new consensus. All you can do is keep campaigning for other users to consider your proposal. You may want to try contacting any fellow Swedish users that you know that are interested in flags, both here on Commons and on the Swedish-language version of Wikipedia. I am sorry I can not do more, but there has to be more users supporting your proposal before an administrator will un-protect the file and allow it to be changed. I will contact some users I know and ask them to take a look as well. Fry1989 eh? 17:45, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi, do you think any change can be made yet? --Havsjö (talk) 21:07, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I do not know. But I will ask two more people I know to join the conversation. Fry1989 eh? 22:40, 28 April 2019 (UTC)


Texas Rebel Battle Flag

Curious about the significance of the combined images and what it is proposed for. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 47.36.254.93 (talk) 16:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

It's just something I uploaded many years ago when I first joined Commons. I don't really have much connection to it. I guess you can call it a fictional flag. Fry1989 eh? 23:11, 17 August 2019 (UTC)


Argentina manual

I saw that you'll do road signs for Argentina. Here's a manual that may help you: https://www.argentina.gob.ar/sites/default/files/manual_sv.pdfTito zz (talk) 14:55, 17 October 2019 (UTC)


category

Fry if you get a chance can you apply the proper category for this file - (not sure the one I used is best) Thanks in advance - FOX 52 (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


I thank you for reverting to the source

I edited the South Vietnamese stop sign to change "DỪNG LẠI" to the Vietnamese version of DIN 1451 typeface (which Vietnam called as gt2 and gt1 and we seen the typeface in the comtemporary Vietnamese highway road signs). Now I saw that you reverting a change. I thank you for doing that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baokhang48812002 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately the link in the source section no longer works, but I requested in the Graphic Lab that the Vietnamese text "DỪNG LẠI" be made to look like it did in the photo. Fry1989 eh? 17:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)


Bad/Fake SVG

About [3]: Hi! Note that a {{Bad SVG}} contains a mix of vector and bitmap data wheres a {{FakeSVG}} only contains bitmap data. I’ve changed the template in the file above.Jonteemil (talk) 03:12, 4 October 2019 (UTC)


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Malaysia Low Vis roundel

I've pulled the Malaysia Low Visibility roundel, from the pertaining articles - I searched endlessly, and it appears to have been some type of testing phase but not in use. C-130 s/n M30-08 had a low vis applied in 2005, but removed in 2006 - (more recent photo of 2010): see here for details. - regards FOX 52 (talk) 18:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


West Indies Federation SVG Flags

Hi, I have noticed the colour schemes for the West Indies Federation Blue and Red Ensign Flags do not match the standard flag colours of the main SVG flag, also should the orange circle in the main SVG be more orange (almost to a bronze colour), and if so could all the flags be modified so they have matching colour schemes for consistency please. Many Thanks (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 15:30, 2 November 2018 (UTC))

I do not believe the blue and red ensigns ever existed. Without a source, I can't support them. Fry1989 eh? 17:37, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Ah right I am sorry I didn’t realise that, forgive me, I rest my case (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 18:12, 2 November 2018 (UTC))


Question about "File:CW22-2.svg"

I was looking at the file and noticed the "CW22-2" and the history says you moved it to that from "W22-2" in order to give it the "correct MUTCD designation". I see that Texas lists it as "CW22-2" in the "Texas MUTCD" but the United States Federal MUTCD, Table 6F-1 lists it as "W22-2".--The Navigators (talk) 04:09, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

Greetings. Yes, I renamed it with the prefix CW because there is a discrepancy in the MUTCD file naming. Permanent warning signs and works zone warning signs are broken into two separate categories in the MUTCD. There are some signs which have a permanent version and a temporary version, but there are others that do not. File:MUTCD CW22-2.svg is only used in construction and blasting zones, there is no permanent (yellow) version of this sign. Since two files can not share the same name, there are two ways of going about naming these files. One is to name them "MUTCD W3-1 (temporary)", but therein lies the problem. Since many of the orange signs do not have a permanent version, naming them all with "(temporary)" is inappropriate. The other option is to name them with the W prefix changed to CW, the C standing for construction. Many of the files in Category:Diagrams of U.S. Construction Signs already had the CW prefix, and as you mentioned it is the prefix used in some state MUTCDs, therefore it seemed the most prudent option. Fry1989 eh? 17:22, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
I see, sorry for the bother. (Although, funny enough I did locate a 'permanent' version of CW22-2. Made by Dept. of Defense for military bases where they test munitions and have sensitive equipment. But it's separate from the proper federal MUTCD, with its own special code.)--The Navigators (talk) 22:01, 23 August 2018 (UTC)


Question for someone with an eye for detail and an understanding of geometry

If you compare the two images ([4] and [5]), which zero do you think looks better? Thank you. VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 12:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Both appear ok to me, though the second one has a slightly more narrow black ring. Do you have a construction sheet for the typeface? Fry1989 eh? 16:04, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
I sadly do not have construction sheets for either the font or the road signs themselves. Surprisingly, I have only been able to find construction specifications for old Swedish signs, and the pre-Tratex font. On the official web page where Tratex can be downloaded, they state that the font can be freely downloaded, but that the quality cannot be guaranteed. Since I had noticed some flaws, I contacted the Transport Agency and asked if there was a way to guarantee the quality of the font. I got the polite but disappointing answer that there didn't exist a good solution to my problem, and that the digitized version of Tratex had not been updated in years. Since you think that both versions look OK, I think that I will revert my change, since I believe that it is better to keep close to the official EPS rather than to strive for some marginal benefit. — VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 18:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)


Flags of Stfhd, Tfgjcv, Kfgxhjif etc.

Hi. User Sf 571 has uploaded quite a few flags that have awfully many consonants in their names. Do you think they are real flags from a place with a very consonanty language or is it some kind of highly creative spam? A quick internet search gave no results and the descriptions and categorizations contain no information whatsoever. TilmannR (talk) 17:02, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I am not familiar with any of these flags. A reverse image search I did on a couple of them also showed no results. Without any sources, they are useless. Fry1989 eh? 17:12, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
I guess I'll give Sf 571 a few days to add information or react to my post on their talk page and then open a mass deletion request. Thank you! TilmannR (talk) 17:39, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


President's Ensign of Dominica

Hello, Fry1989. I know that you don't have too much SVG skills, but can you make the president's ensign of dominica with this coat of arms? Source: http://presidentoffice.gov.dm/nationalsymbols2/79-presidents-ensign -64.237.228.166 12:12, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Done. Fry1989 eh? 19:18, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. -64.237.228.166 22:30, 24 November 2018 (UTC)


I found out the font

Well @Fry1989: , I reviewed the other speed limit signs and, I realised all (Arial Bold, Clearview and Highway Gothic) fonts were used in different versions of the sign. I don't understand the signs in the Philippines, some use Clearview and Arial Bold but no official records or whatever. Anyways, I would like to help vectorising the Chinese road signs and other non-SVG file road signs. --hueman1 (talk) 23:54, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

That is great, thank you. Fry1989 eh? 00:16, 14 July 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for the sign. If possible, finding other sourced colored old Taiwanese signs would be greatly appreciated to expand 道路交通標誌標線號誌設置規則.--Jusjih (talk) 07:02, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@Jusjih: , greetings. I do have several scans for other old Taiwanese road signs. [6], [7], [8], [9]. Fry1989 eh? 17:40, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


File:Test.svg is a highly watched file.

You might use Commons:Commons SVG Checker istead of using File:Test.svg.

If a file only contain <path-data most cases the file will be rendered correclty by wikimedia (as in inkscape/firefox/chrome).

 — Johannes Kalliauer - Talk | Contributions 21:26, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, but I use File:Test.svg to test and compare visual elements of the current version of a file I intend to upload with their historical versions. Commons:Commons SVG Checker appears to have a different purpose. Fry1989 eh? 00:10, 14 February 2019 (UTC)


Vector drawings for Icelandic road signs

I had already written a nice long message to you, but just before I was going to submit it my Wii U ran out of memory (don't ask) and decided to reload the page, so I had to start all over again *sigh*
I do apologize, but I don't feel like writing it all over again, so I'm just gonna give you the link and let you have a look for yourself:

http://www.vegagerdin.is/SthbThjon.nsf/2d1e761d5db9cd840025702a00731850/dffa96b300db4faa0025779700559a4a?OpenDocument

VulpesVulpes42 (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I was wondering where that website went, I had seen it a long time ago but misplaced it. There's also one for Sweden, Norway and Finland, I have those thankfully. Fry1989 eh? 21:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)


Bad file name

Fry there's a problem with your Bangladesh Army Aviation roundel, it appears to be the Bangladesh Army badge/symbol. Their website has it the home page. Bangladesh Army aircraft carry the badge, but the Air Force roundel is prime insignia (seen here, here, here, & here) - Even our own Wikipedia places is as a badge. - FOX 52 (talk) 08:51, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

This is a similar situation to Italy's naval aviation, which uses both the tricolour roundel and the anchor roundel. And also to Iraq, which until recently used their badge also as a roundel. So it can be both at the same time. But I am not opposed to renaming it if you feel that its usage as a badge is the primary purpose. Fry1989 eh? 16:17, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Well for the purpose of legitimacy, that might be best (name change) - FOX 52 (talk) 17:43, 10 October 2019 (UTC)


Vertical flags

Maybe you are interested in knowing what the "partners" Nyttend and RainbowSilver2ndBackup have done e.g. for the file:Flag of Slovenia, vertical.svg and file:Flag of Serbia, vertical.svg and many, many others. Perhaps you also want to follow the discussion Icon flag and maybe participate in it. Sincerely, --Icon flag (talk) 01:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)


Query

Is the logo in the poster of this game copyrightable? I picked up a random experienced editor to ask this question because I have no experience to decide its threshold of originality. Harshrathod50 (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

The developer and producers are based in the United States, so that logo would be below the threshold. It should be safe to upload here. Fry1989 eh? 17:05, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. What pages here should I learn so that I can decide Threshold of Originality myself in future? Harshrathod50 (talk) 11:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Threshold of originality is good for the United States, but has limited entries for other parts of the world. Participating in deletion nominations will also help you build a wider understanding of the threshold of originality in various countries. Fry1989 eh? 16:39, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I'm on it. Harshrathod50 (talk) 06:53, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


fictional flags in important articles!!

Both flags are merely fictional without any provided source and used for formal important state article. I don't have any common account so pls care !- 2A0A:A540:A15E:0:9587:50A2:E8B7:B7DC 14:12, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


Applying recently-standardized colours retroactively decades (or even centuries)

Hello, Fry. There's been a bit of hub-bub recently over on the English Wikipedia between myself and some other guy over whether or not we should apply modern standardization colours retroactively. Said hub-bub was so heated it even got my template editing rights of many years revoked. Now, I'm of the mind that it is anachronistic to use colours that were standardized recently retroactively long ago, so for instance, should we apply the Russian, German, Italian, and Estonian flags' colours (IIRC standardized in 1993, 1999, 2006, and 2014 respectively) back a century (or more) prior? There are a lot of Imperial Russian SVG flags using the contemporary Russian Federation flag's colors, for instance. Now, seeing your edit on this file leads me to believe you are of the same mind as well. YMHAOS, Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 21:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Illegitimate Barrister: , it is a complicated issue. In the specific case you mentioned here, it was not only that the standardization was recent which I objected to, but also because Serbia is a different country than FRY/S&M. But generally I would agree that modern standardizations should not be applied retroactively. Which raises the issue of New South Wales. The current colours come from a booklet produce in 2015, but I do not know if the colours were actually standardized at some earlier time. If I can find that out, I would upload a separate file with the older colours. Fry1989 eh? 23:52, 21 January 2019 (UTC)


Opinions

Hi. I noticed you'd been involved in this discussion, and, since I'm not the best judge of what falls under PD-shape and what doesn't, would you mind taking a look at these:

and letting me know if they too fall under PD-shape? I have a feeling that maybe 2 wouldn't but 1 would? Thanks in advance. - ක - (talk) 08:02, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jesuschristonacamel: , thank you for messaging me. Sadly I do not think either would be accepted under PD-shape on Commons. The patterns are very original. Fry1989 eh? 18:55, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. There go my hopes of using them on lists/tables!- ක - (talk) 18:58, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I am very sorry. Fry1989 eh? 18:23, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


Illustration workshop: Irish speed limit signs

Hi. You seem to be an expert on road signs. Could you have a quick look at the signs on "Commons:Graphic_Lab/Illustration_workshop#Missing_Irish_speed_limit_signs" to see whether there's anything obviously wrong with them? The workshop request was made by an anonymous user in January, so I don't expect any feedback from them. And this is the first set of road signs I've made. There might be some conventions that I'm simply not aware of. Thanks. TilmannR (talk) 15:40, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

They look good to me. I intend to work on the Irish signs in the future with the specs from DTTAS, but that is still a long way off. Thanks. Fry1989 eh? 15:50, 3 September 2018 (UTC)


File renaming

Just because images share a category does not mean that they are part of a set. There are two scenarios that this criterion is designed for. First, certain complex templates (such as those that use BSicons or that display football kits) assume that the images used in them will follow a specific naming convention. Wikisource also uses a specific naming convention for the source files they transcribe. Second, files that form parts of a whole (such as scans from the same book or large images that are divided into smaller portions due to Commons’ upload size restriction) should follow the same naming convention so that they appear together, in order, in categories and lists.

Please do not do that anymore. --sasha (krassotkin) 21:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not English.

--sasha (krassotkin) 21:42, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Files should NOT be renamed only because the new name looks a bit better.

--sasha (krassotkin) 21:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Files should NOT be renamed only because the filename is not correctly capitalized.

--sasha (krassotkin) 09:09, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

It is in the long-term interest of Commons and the other connected projects to have the names of a set of images be standardised. I make sure of immediate replacement from one name to the other to make disruption minimal. In the case of the flags I am renaming, we have several flags of presidents, prime ministers, and other government officials. It is in the interest to standardise them such that the files are named "Flag of the...of...". You are also misconstruing the motivations behind the rename of certain files. I did not rename any files simply because they are in one language and I think they should be in another language. I rename them as part of standardisation or to correct naming errors such as spelling or wrong dates of use only Unless you have a meaningful objection against this standardisation, or evidence of it's disruption, I will continue my efforts. I have been a trusted user of the File Mover right for many years and am quite aware of the policies. Fry1989 eh? 21:45, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
  • We do not have such criterion of renaming as "standardization". Moreover, the rules unequivocally warn of the inadmissibility of such mass renaming involving 700+ projects. You constantly violate all renaming rules. If you continue to do this, I will have to apply for the removal of the renaming right from you. --sasha (krassotkin) 21:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Files across projects are renamed all the time, and in my several years as a trusted file mover, no other user has taken such objection to any of my renames. Also, I have proposed and put forward multiple file name standardisation schemes myself that have been accepted, so I know what I am talking about. This is a non-issue. Fry1989 eh? 22:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)


Historical flags of Tobago only

A few weeks ago found a section on the following website https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/tt-tob.html#1877 which contains information about three for macaroni and flags of the island of Tobago only prior to when the then colony joined with Trinidad. Please can SVG graphics of these flags be created please. The web link contains all the information you need. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 18:16, 2 November 2018 (UTC))

I am sorry, but I don't have the SVG skills needed to make those flags. I wish that I could. Fry1989 eh? 18:49, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
Ah no worries, I am in the same boat, do you know of anyone who might me so we can pass this request on to. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 19:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC))
I would suggest making a request in the Graphic Lab. Fry1989 eh? 20:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


Deletionism strikes again

Howdy, Fry. Need your help with deletionists. – Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 21:42, 3 June 2018 (UTC)