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Archiving

¡Hola Fma12! Please archive your talk page rather than simply delete the notifications. --Saibo (Δ) 17:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Hola Saibo, thanks for the advice! I did not know how to keep the talk archived. I' ll keep in mind, regards ! Adios Fma12 (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Platense 1976.jpg

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November 2011

Please do not remove problem tags

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Hi! It has come to my attention that you have removed a warning which says that a file doesn't have enough information about the source or license conditions. Nevertheless, it seems to me that this information is still missing and I have restored the tag. You may either add the required information or, if you think that required information is already given, put the image up for a deletion request so that it won't automatically be deleted. Thank you.

Coekon (talk) 04:57, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Tip: Categorizing images

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Deletion requests

Hello,

Please do not reopen deletion requests, unless you have new information or argument. This is disruptive. Admins have already too much work. Thanks, Yann (talk) 14:14, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello, ok. Fma12 (talk) 14:16, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Like the template says: It only consists of simple geometric shapes and/or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection. That's a recent assessement. It was uploaded before in English Wikipedia. Regards, Yann (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

category removed?

Hallo Fma12, why did you remove the category of the club? I have put it back in again. Was this an accident? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Saibo, indeed I removed the category by accident. In fact, I have added some images to "Boca Juniors" and other Argentine football and rugby union clubs. If there was a mistake, it not was my intention, sorry. Fma12 (talk) 15:05, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay, fine - no problem. :-) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:10, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi...

Why did you remove these categorizations? Lobo (howl?) 06:54, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Hola, te respondo en Español porque es mi lengua de origen también (soy Argentino). Te comento, removí esa categoría porque en el caso de Saviola, él aparecía listado en Players of River Plate, aunque no había una sola foto de ese jugador con la camiseta de River. Entonces me pareció poco apropiado que Saviola aparezca en esa página siendo que sus imágenes son solamente de clubes de Europa. Con Esteban Cambiasso pasa exactamente lo mismo.

No sé si estarás de acuerdo con este criterio, yo al menos considero que incluír múltiples categorías de un jugador de fútbol cuando hay imágenes de éste solamente con la camiseta de uno o dos equipos, sólo contribuye a crear confusión entre los usuarios. Me gustaría conocer tu opinión al respecto... Saludos. Fma12 (talk) 12:33, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Pensé en un principio que habías eliminado las categorías por ese criterio, pero luego vi que quitaste

[[Category:Association football players from Argentina]] de Esteban Cambiasso, y a eso no le veo sentido que lo elimines (además de que hay una foto suya con la selección argentina). Por otra parte, yo no estoy de acuerdo con aquello de eliminar solo las categorías de los clubes en donde ha estado el jugador pero no aparezca vestido de ese club. En primer lugar, en la página de ayuda sobre categorías se indica esto:

Pages (including category pages) are categorized according to their subject, and not to their contents, because the contents are generally not a permanent feature of the category page; in particular, you can momentarily find inappropriate contents in a category page.

El sujeto de estas categorías es el propio jugador. Además, ten en cuenta que las fotos sin estar jugando para el club no se pueden categorizar en ningún equipo; si un jugador solo ha jugado en un club, y solo aparece vestido de paisano, entonces ¿cómo vamos a poder categorizar con precisión la imagen? También, si se incluyen las categorías de solo los equipos en los que estuviera cuando se realizaron las imágenes tenemos el mismo problema que se intenta solucionar, pues no todas las imágenes estarán bien categorizadas en todas las categorías. Por esto, creo que la mejor solución es la de categorizar en general los jugadores en todos los clubes en que hayan jugado. Lobo (howl?) 16:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

¿Tienes alguna objeción a lo que dije? Lobo (howl?) 03:58, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

No, no tengo mucho que agregar, aunque creo que no todos los casos merecen tratarse igual, porque no todas las carreras de futbolistas lo son. Buscaré algun ejemplo y te lo daré. Fma12 (talk) 04:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

No podría estar más en desacuerdo con eso, creo que se ha de buscar coherencia y una homogeneidad en la categorización para que sea lo más concreta y correcta posible, si se trata cada caso de forma distinta lo que tendremos es un caos. Volviendo a lo primero que mencionaste, no podemos categorizar basándonos en las fotos que en un momento determinado existan en una categoría, sino que son las categorías las que deben acotar qué contenido alojan, porque ese contenido va variando con el tiempo. Y te pongo un ejemplo análogo: imagina un político que haya militado en diversos partidos políticos: el partido A, el B y el C. Pero resulta que por el momento no existen fotografías de todas las épocas de cuando militaba en cada partido ¿Crees entonces que es correcto sólo categorizarlo como militante de solo esos partidos en que aparece en las fotos mientras no se añadan más? Pues en mi opinión rotundamente no, porque en el momento en que se mezclan varios partidos las imágenes ya no están clasificadas de forma precisa siguiendo el criterio de que las imágenes pertenezcan a todas las categorías (o bien representará a un partido, o bien al otro, o quizá a ninguno). Esa persona ha sido parte de esos partidos políticos, y es útil tenerla categorizada en ellos aunque no exista ninguna fotografía de esa época en concreto, porque entonces nuevas imágenes podrán añadirse sin que se produzca ningún desajuste. Por eso, no veo un error que esas fotografías se incluyan en subcategorías de personas militantes de determinado partido (o en nuestro caso como jugadores de determinado club), porque lo único que implica esque la persona que aparece en la foto en algún momento de su vida fue miembro del partido político, y no necesariamente que en las fotos de esa subcategoría esa persona estuviera militando especificamente en ese partido. Y si hiciera falta hacer esa distinción, sería sencillo por ejemplo crear una categoría de 'Personas militando en el partido A' y categorizar las fotos correspondientes de cualquiera dentro (o incluso crear otra subcategoría 'Fulano militando en el partido A'). Básicamente, lo que se categoriza de esa forma es por una parte a una persona y por otra parte si hiciera falta subcategorías de fotos de esa persona. Y es esto lo que se hace mayoritariamente en las categorías de deportistas, es al parecer práctico y sencillo. Sin embargo tiene el inconveniente de que el concepto de categoría parte de que las imágenes deben estar contenidas en el tema de las categorías superiores cada vez más específicamente, y esto puede considerarse que no se cumple en el sentido en que en la categoría Players of Club Nosecual habrá acertadamente fotografías de jugadores de ese club, pero no necesariamente de jugadores jugando para ese club. Creo que ese es el principal problema. Una opción opuesta sería descategorizar la categoría de la persona completamente de todos los clubes en que haya participado, y solo categorizar las imágenes atendiendo a sus particularidades en concreto, es decir, que en las categorías de 'Players of Club Nosecual' solo aparecieran imágenes de jugadores vistiendo o estando en activo en ese momento en el club en cuestión. El caso, de nuevo, es ser coherentes en la categorización, y dejar solo unas categorías mientras se eliminan otras no lo veo nada correcto. Lobo (howl?) 21:19, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Huracan 1973celebrating.jpg

Hi ! You state that this file is in the public domain in the US. Was it published without a copyright notice ? --Claritas (talk) 23:11, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi! No, this file is already in the public domain in Argentina, not US. The point is that I could not find the tag (I use the upload wizard) when uploading the file so I have to provide the image first and then editing this in order to modify the information about the licence. My question is: is there any way to indicate that an image is under the Argentine public domain while I'm uploading it to commons? Thanks, Fma12 (talk) 01:24, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

You can add Template:PD-AR-Photo to the permissions field of the summary template, and fill in the license as "other" on the standard upload form. The file was PD in source country in 1996, so there shouldn't be a problem with the US copyright, but it's important to add the licensing tag for the source country. Thanks. --Claritas (talk) 06:20, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Wait. This photo is created in 1973. Unless proof that it was created on or before 1970, this is not PD in USA. --George Ho (talk) 22:07, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) To assure you, under Argeninta law, a photo must be both published for more than 20 years and created for more than 25 years to be out of copyright. --George Ho (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Pedroochoa 1925.jpeg

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George Ho (talk) 05:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I have left my reasons on the nomination page. The discussion is closed for me so I won't reply anything here. Thanks Fma12 (talk) 23:49, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

I know you left, but read Articles 31 and 35. Well, I can't find laws about photos and periodicals. However, consent of this person is beneficial. He did give permission to the magazine and the photographer to be photographed and to be publicized. I wonder if the pictured person gave permission to upload this image. --George Ho (talk) 00:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

The discussion is closed and the community reached a consensus to keep the image uploaded. You can wonder anything you want now.... Fma12 (talk) 20:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Violación de copyright

Estimado Fma12: hola, mi nombre es Senko, el autor de dos de las fotografías de barreras automáticas que has subido a la página de Wikipedia "paso a nivel", diciendo que son de tu creación. Sé que no lo son porque esas fotos las saqué yo (y tengo los originales conmigo como prueba), y sé donde las has encontrado: www.rxrsignals.net Haz el favor de no usar mis fotos de nuevo sin darme crédito por ellas. Atentamente, Senko

Estimado Senko: Te comento algo brevemente, esas fotografías las tenía guardadas en mi disco rígido y ni me acordaba de dónde las había sacado, de hecho no tenía la menor idea de quién había tomado esas imágenes. Subí la de la estación Padilla porque de hecho, me venía muy bien para ilustrar el articulo de "GRS" de Wikipedia con una señalización ensamblada en Argentina como es el caso.

Las puse como autoría propia porque: 1) las fotos no estaban colgadas en ningún sitio web que pudiera arrogarse su autoría (de hecho, hoy estuve buscando en rxrsignals y no encontré esas imágenes....); 2) no sabía quién las había sacado (ahora me entero que fuiste vos, aunque veo que no tenés cuenta en commons para siquiera citarte), ¿o sí tenés? pregunto porque este mensaje sale sin tu firma.

Para finalizar, y si te parece bien, modifico la información de esas imágenes dándote el crédito como corresponde, no me interesa arrogarme la facultad de nada ni violar copyrights, no es mi estilo, espero hayas entendido las razones que te detallé.

Aguardo tu respuesta, cuando gustes, saludos Fma12 (talk) 03:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

URAA on Argentinian images

Images created more than 25 years ago are still copyrighted, even if published more than 20 years ago. 1973+25=1998; 1973+20=1993. Argentina images are protected by Berne Convention and, also, Argentine law for overseas distribution. Look at {{PD-AR-Photo}}. --George Ho (talk) 03:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

template layout (PD-because)

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You should not be removing DR tags, especially not to add a copyvio tag. If someone disagrees with a copyvio tag, it goes to DR. Period.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:23, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

It's okay to remove copyvio tags if you disagree with them. It's not okay to remove DR tags. You do not edit war over copyvio tags; if someone takes it off, you take it to DR.--Prosfilaes (talk) 01:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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Prosfilaes (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

File:Middx v NZ 1905.jpg

I simply love how you can't use edit summaries, how it should be evident to everyone else how you are self-evidently right.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Let's see; you started this by trying to short-circuit discussion by putting a copyvio on a file that was up for discussion at DR. When I write out a full explanation of why a free license may help people who aren't covered by the public domain, and you didn't even try to respond in your edit summary. I fail to see how I'm the one not being collaborative.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:13, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Autopatrol given

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File:Codra-logo.jpg

Hi Fma 12, You've supported the PD Text aspect of the above file in the DR. I respect your view and I would like to know your view in respect of the DR Gents Toilet Signboard in Hindi. It was marked for DR once, DR decided in favour of "keep" but deletion requester gain marked it for DR. Regards, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC).

If you check the file carefully, you'll find renomination for deletion after the closure of the first DR debate ended in "keep" decision. Regards, Hindustanilanguage (talk) 19:03, 18 April 2012 (UTC).

Thank you for the opinion on the DR. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2012 (UTC).

Some interesting / weird findings about user: Ices2Csharp

Dear Fma12, I just checked the toolserver report of Ices2Csharp. To my surprise, although he joined commons on 06 November 2011, he has surpassed 14OOO edits. Yet, he never uploaded a single image (only 5 reuploads - which were also just reverts). He acquired filemover status much before me, yet so far he moved only 69 pages whereas I am reaching nearly 300 file moves in less than a month. he has only two category edits. That means he's involved in DR filings, DR debates, etc. Will such a person contribute anything worthwhile for Commons? Hindustanilanguage (talk) 11:52, 22 April 2012 (UTC).

Friend Hindustanilanguage, those statistics sound really weird! Where that person obtained such status from, is a mystery for me. I'm in Commons much before him, I have uploaded a lot of files more, but I'm far from reaching 14.000 edits, that's clear attending to I created my account some years before him. Unfortunately I have always problems to see my number of edits at toolservers so I can't specify you my activities on Commons... Fma12 (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Tool Server Statistics:

Username: Fma12
User ID: 436776
Registration date: 13:27, 09 November 2008
First edit: 13:29, 09 November 2008
Total editcount: 3506
Distinct page edits: 2304
Page/edits (avg): 1.52
Edit count per namespaces
Namespace-Edit count-%
User - 5 - 0.14%
User talk - 86 - 2.45%
Commons - 192 - 5.48%
Commons talk - 2 - 0.06%
File - 3198 - 91.22%
Category - 145 - 4.14%
Log actions
Action type-Action count
Edit patroling 106
Image reuploads 122
Image uploads 632

Hindustanilanguage (talk) 18:13, 22 April 2012 (UTC).

Average Edits

Hi FMA12, you have 584 edits in the last 30 days. Our common friend has had 4,152 edits in the last 30 days. But this shoot up is mostly the result of filing DRs on his own and participating in others DRs. With each DR, edit-1 is the "Starting deletion request" page edit, then comes "Listing Commons:Deletion requests" page edit and then user talk page notification edit - 3 edit count increases with one DR! Next comes your participation in DRs filed by others - just types Delete or Keep, and your edit count increase by 1. There is another method of boosting edit count on the Wikis followed by Ices' friend SpacemanSpiff - he goes in search for PD files on Flickr.com Filmitadka.com,etc, saves it on his hard disk and then uploads these second hand files on Commons - his edit counts will shoot up like anything. The choice of method of boosting edit counts is up to you. Meanwhile, I've questioned the moral right of Ices to file DRs, re-DRs and may be re-re-DRs on the Hindi Toilet file DR page. I've even notified him by leaving a Talkback on his user talk. But so far he has remained silent on the question. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 07:50, 23 April 2012 (UTC).

Hi, Hindustanilanguage, I was really surprised withe the number of edits that I made within 30 days. But nothing compares to our friend, who has achieved a mark that is impossible to surpass or even reach (at least for me). I wonder how many time does this user spend on Commons by day? Fma12 (talk) 15:44, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I've no idea. Hindustanilanguage (talk) 16:19, 25 April 2012 (UTC).

Logos

About this edition of yours, I had no idea, Im giving you some more kits that should then be fixed: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6].--Nuno93 (talk) 21:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

trademark law is NOT copyright law

Dear Fma12,

please note: trademark law is NOT copyright law!

You can NOT change license tags due to the provisions in Argentine Law 22362, article 3, section f because this law is about registered trademarks and NOT about copyright. So please review all your changes due to this law and undo them.

Best regards

--ALE! ¿…? 07:56, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I have answered on my talk page. --ALE! ¿…? 21:50, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

(reproduction): Dear Fma12,

sorry to contradict you, but you mix up copyright law and trademark law.

The law you are citing, Law 22362, is a trademark law. Trademark laws are something totally different from copyright laws, because e.g. copyright law might apply but trademark law not and vice versa.

Commons bases its decision ONLY on copyright law.

Regards --ALE! ¿…? 21:49, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Sponsor Camiseta Titular River Plate

Escribo acerca del comentario en el patrón de la camiseta titular del Club Atlético River Plate, yo soy el responsable de haber colocado el logo, y si viola las leyes de Wikipedia me retracto. Lo que sí quería aclarar, es que hay muchos diseños de patrones de camisetas donde se está empezando a incluir el logo del sponsor, y en algunos casos se coloca hasta el logo del/los patrocinador/es. Un claro ejemplo son los diseños de los templates que aparecen en el artículo en español sobre el mismo Club Atlético Boca Juniors, donde el escudo del patrocinador aparece en contraste con el color de fondo donde está ubicado. Si es que hay una regla que indica que no se debe incluir sponsors invitaría a colaborar en removerlos. Desde ya, muchas gracias.

--PM07 (talk) 19:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for completing the request I had started before. I strongly support the request. Fma12 (talk) 12:24, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Template camiseta River Suplente 2012/13

Hola de nuevo. Escribo para avisarle que arme un template mas adecuado de la camiseta del CA River Plate, siguiendo el modelo de la camiseta. Debido a que el modelo de la camiseta seguira siendo ClimaCool, la banda roja de la camiseta suplente es similar a la banda estampada en la camiseta titular de la temporada 2010/12 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Kit_body_river_1214a.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Kit_body_river_1012_h.png Subo los enlaces crudos porque no tengo mucho tiempo para poder armar la visualización ahora. Un Saludo. --PM07 (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Independiente fc crest.png

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Bulwersator (talk) 11:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

HI

Thanks. But first you commented with delete with no reasonable reason, I did all possible to confirm my work, i changed flicker account to some rights reserved to prove it. Do you mean I still keep the picture to all rights reserved in flicker and keep it here with CC?

At last, will you ask any admin to close the discussion because there no more to add.--Neogeolegend (talk) 05:10, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Final warning for edit warring in football kit images

Hello there.

This is a final warning to all editors involved in the upload war over football kits. Pages like File:Kit body rmcf1213a.png, with over a dozen back and forth uploads, are disruptive.I have seen this same type of edit war on several pages, and going back several months. It does not matter if you think you're right or not, it has to end. If you are on the side advocating for logos, and the image has no logos, upload the version with logos as a separate image, and add the version with no logos to the other versions section of the file description page. The same goes for if you are on the side advocating for no logos and the current version has logos already. It is better to have two stable versions than to have one very unstable one.

Also, since at least one party has already started this, I am explicity forbidding you from putting each other's versions up for deletion at DR. This is an extension of the edit warring, and is, like the edit warring, highly disruptive.

Because of the length and severity of this mess, the minimum block length I would consider for continued violations after a final warning is one month. Repeated infractions will quickly scale up in block length. I do not consider myself too involved to take admin action here. It has to end, and repeated pleas for you all to talk it out have fallen on deaf ears.

Sven Manguard Wha? 16:24, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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Affected:

File:Saints uniforms12.PNG

And also:

Yours sincerely Stefan4 (talk) 09:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

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Tip: Categorizing images

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File:Huracan 1973celebrating.jpg

File:Pedroochoa 1925.jpeg

File:Basile_1966rac.jpg

Violación de copyright

URAA on Argentinian images

template layout (PD-because)

Do not remove DR tags

File:David wallace kicking.jpg

File:Middx v NZ 1905.jpg

Autopatrol given

File:Codra-logo.jpg

Some interesting / weird findings about user: Ices2Csharp

Average Edits

Logos

trademark law is NOT copyright law

Sponsor Camiseta Titular River Plate

File:Kit body river1112a.png

Template camiseta River Suplente 2012/13

File:Independiente fc crest.png

HI

Final warning for edit warring in football kit images

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template layout (PD-because)

Do not remove DR tags

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File:Codra-logo.jpg

Some interesting / weird findings about user: Ices2Csharp

Average Edits

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