User talk:Ancientcoincollector

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Ancientcoincollector!

First steps tutorial

Our first steps tour and our frequently asked questions will help you a lot after registration. They explain how to customize the interface (for example the language), how to upload files and our basic licensing policy (Wikimedia Commons only accepts free content).

You don't need technical skills in order to contribute here. Be bold when contributing and assume good faith when interacting with others. This is a wiki.

Getting help

More information is available at the community portal. You may ask questions at the help desk, village pump or on IRC channel #wikimedia-commons (webchat). You can also contact an administrator on their talk page. If you have a specific copyright question, ask at the copyright village pump.

Goodies, tips, and tricks

Put Babel boxes on your user page so others know what languages you can speak and indicate your graphic abilities.
You can find the files you have uploaded in your Uploads.
Please sign your name on Talk pages by typing ~~~~.
To link to an image page without embedding the image, type: [[:File:Foo.jpg]], which produces: File:Foo.jpg.
You may enable gadgets (custom features) for your account.
There are several tools to upload files.
Have you edited Wikipedia before? This guide might be useful.

Made a mistake?

Do you want to have a file renamed or moved? Use the move link and wait for an authorized user to rename it.
Do you want to have your recently uploaded picture removed? Tag it as {{speedy|reason here}}. For more information read the deletion guidelines.

-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 11:33, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Afrikaans ∙ Bahasa Indonesia ∙ bosanski ∙ català ∙ čeština ∙ dansk ∙ Deutsch ∙ Deutsch (Sie-Form)‎ ∙ eesti ∙ English ∙ español ∙ Esperanto ∙ français ∙ galego ∙ hrvatski ∙ íslenska ∙ italiano ∙ magyar ∙ Nederlands ∙ norsk bokmål ∙ norsk nynorsk ∙ occitan ∙ Plattdüütsch ∙ polski ∙ português ∙ português do Brasil ∙ română ∙ shqip ∙ sicilianu ∙ slovenčina ∙ slovenščina ∙ suomi ∙ svenska ∙ Tiếng Việt ∙ Türkçe ∙ Zazaki ∙ Ελληνικά ∙ беларуская ∙ беларуская (тарашкевіца)‎ ∙ български ∙ македонски ∙ русский ∙ српски / srpski ∙ українська ∙ հայերեն ∙ বাংলা ∙ മലയാളം ∙ ပအိုဝ်ႏဘာႏသာႏ ∙ မြန်မာဘာသာ ∙ ไทย ∙ 조선말 ∙ 한국어 ∙ 日本語 ∙ 简体中文‎ ∙ 繁體中文‎ ∙ עברית ∙ العربية ∙ پښتو ∙ فارسی ∙ ދިވެހިބަސް ∙ +/−

Affected:

File:Otho AR Tetradrachm.jpg

And also:

Yours sincerely, Christian Ferrer ^(talk) 20:19, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

{{Ping|Christian Ferrer} Hi Christian, I have uploaded the creative commons licence to my website (refer footer). It covers my ENTIRE footer. Hope this solves your concerns. If it doesn't, tell me what I need to do, and I'll do it. As you can see I am 100% willing to assist in resolving the concerns you have. I am a newcomer and would request some patience from you before deleting my work which I have contributed. Ancientcoincollector (talk) 01:14, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have closed this DR as kept, since the license on the website has been changed. I apologize for the drama, and hope that you understand it's from a desire to protect the rights of authors, since we often see copyrighted material stolen from such websites. - Revent^talk 01:33, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

{{Ping|Revent} Thank you Revent. I am really grateful you dealt with this so swiftly. Thanks again. Ancientcoincollector (talk)

I hope that you are not discouraged, and keep contributing (your images are indeed valuable documentation of these coins). Because of the vast amounts of material we see stolen from various sources on the web (many people assume anything they find on the web is 'free') we have to be very proactive about deleting material that has been previously published online. - Revent^talk 01:44, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Welcome![edit]

Hi Ancientcoincollector. I just wanted to leave a note here to thank you very much for your contributions and to apologise on behalf of the wider Commons community for the rather less than effusive 'welcome' that you have received. It is indeed unfortunate when new editors run into problems with licensing that they could not previously have anticipated (that's very common), only to find that editors seem more intent on pushing people away and in deleting files rather than in helping out. You explained your own situation very well, and volunteered very quickly to make the necessary change to your website licensing, which was in fact all that needed to happen. You have done everything you possibly could, and I am sorry that your introduction to Commons has caused you unnecessary stress.

The images that you have kindly made available to us and to the world are extremely useful, and provide an excellent opportunity for Wikipedia editors in many languages to illustrate articles for which freely available images can be hard to obtain. Few high-end dealers are prepared to take the time and effort to provide resources to help educate the public about the hobby, and probably relatively few collectors have access to the sort of rare coins that you have photographed. Many museums, unfortunately, will not release professional photographs of their own collections, and often restrict amateur photography as well. As you will have seen, some of your images are already in use on various Wikipedias, and I'm certain that more will be picked up in time. If you wanted to make the pictures even more useful, you might consider whether you could upload them at higher resolution, since at present they only look good when reproduced at quite small sizes. Our normal recommendation would be to upload pictures at the highest resolution that your camera provides; the software then automatically creates low resolution versions as needed for different purposes.

Anyway, welcome again! If you have any queries about how best to do things here or if (as I hope you won't) you run into any further difficulties, do please feel free to leave me a note on my talk page and I'd be happy to help out. All the best, MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MichaelMaggs, thank you so much for your kind and generous note. I am touched by the goodwill of the Wikipedians who rushed to my aid when I needed their assistance. As I've now explained on my userpage, there is a lack of high quality ancient coin photos and articles on ancient coins on Wikipedia. There are countless journals on ancient numismatics yet only a fraction of that information is on Wikipedia. I see more information about ancient coins on online discussion boards including wikis maintained by at least one of those discussion boards! For example, I have an entire book on the subject of Kushan coinage. Yet the wikipedia article on Kushan coinage is only a few paragraphs long. This is despite there not being much information available on Kushan coins on the internet generally, which is a shame as it is relevant to India / Pakistan's history and cultural heritage. Note that this particular article doesn't have any photos of my coins as I saw there were many decent examples of coins on the page already - disproportionately so to the volume of text.

I will start uploading higher resolution photos to Wikipedia Commons as you have suggested. I usually take high resolution photos and then scale them down to a more manageable size. I will make sure to start keeping the original size formats saved.

Thanks again, and hope to see you here! Ancientcoincollector (talk)

Thanks. I expect you'll have seen WikiProject Numismatics on Wikipedia. Seems relevant, though I don't know how active it is. MichaelMaggs (talk) 05:01, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

FYI (you might find this interesting, since you are using the images on your website) it's possible to hotlink images from Wikimedia Commons for use on external websites. This includes (though it's not incredibly obvious) the ability to hotlink automatically created thumbnails, by linking the URL of the thumb. The 'use this file' link on the file pages will provide the needed HTML code for hotlinking, with a few options for size, but you can modify it to get whatever size you want. - Revent^talk 06:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MichaelMaggs and Revent. I will have a look at that wikiproject page. Also great tip re linking to Wikipedia Commons and thumbnailed images. I have just uploaded a larger file. It is the original size from the camera. Hopefully this is much better and of more use to the project: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Domitian_Denarius_Minerva_RIC_167_1.xcf

That's great: thanks for making that change. I'm not very familiar with the editing software you use, The Gimp, but if it's possible to incorporate EXIF data into the final image that would be worth doing. The Commons software respects and retains EXIF information, and many editors like to see it. If you wanted to, you could include your own name within the EXIF data so that anyone downloading a copy of the image from Commons would have a permanent record of you as photographer embedded within the file (just don't include any limitations on use which are inconsistent with the CC licence). MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:14, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks MichaelMaggs for the heads up. GIMP is an open-source photo editing software. I believe in open-source - it makes the world a better place. The editing I do is limited to cropping each face of the coin and pasting onto one page with a white background. When I do that it seems the EXIF data goes missing - will need to research how I keep it intact. I did notice when uploading an older photo (for which I had used different software) that Commons automatically recognised the date it was created, so there must be a way to do it. Ancientcoincollector (talk)

Thank you[edit]

I hope you won't let recent events put you off from contributing. Thank you for your magnificent uploads - we need more antique dealers dealers and other commercial organisations to contribute, and you set them a fine example. Andy Mabbett (talk) 13:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Andy, very kind of you to write to me, thank you! I look at the positives in everything. I am much more familiar with Wikipedia's policies now as I had to research them carefully. I learned something about licensing that I was not did not know before. I got to "meet" one of the most prolific Wikipedia contributors and Administrators (the one who blocked me) who I have learned is kind of famous around here and obviously highly intelligent given his / her background in material sciences. I also got to interact with fellow Wikipedians such as as yourself, who have shown me a different (positive and friendly) side to Wikipedia - no doubt the side that you see and what has attracted you here. As I stated above in my response to MichaelMaggs, I believe in open-source and free sharing of IP (especially when it comes to educational resources such as images or articles etc.). It makes the world a better place. I look forward to continuing to contribute many more photos of ancient coins. I have many which I am yet to photograph in my collection and I am regularly rotating or adding to my collection. Ancientcoincollector (talk)

Commons categorisation[edit]

Hi Ancientcoincollector,

I would like to tell you something about the categorisation system here. On Commons files are put in the most fine-grained subcategory.

When you have a file in Category:Coins of Traianus it's included in Category:Roman coins by emperor, Category:Traianus and Category:Ancient Roman coins. When it's in Category:Sestertius it's also included in Category:Ancient Roman coins. So it's not necessary to overcategorise (see COM:OVERCAT for explanation) or tag pictures like on other platforms.

Cheers, Sascha GPD (talk) 09:19, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sascha GPD, thank you for letting me know, I was unaware of that. It will save me considerable time now when uploading images as it was time consuming to try and think of all the relevant categories!Ancientcoincollector (talk) 11:51, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ancientcoincollector,

categorisation here is a science in itself: Euboea + Ancient Greek coins becomes Ancient Greek coins of Euboea‎

Cheers, Sascha GPD (talk) 11:47, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ancientcoincollector. Sorry if I correct a little thing that Sascha told you. What he said about overcategorization of coin is correct. Not what he said about "Sestertius". In each file you have to distinguish the object by the subject. In art the object can be a paintings, a drawing, a statue, or a coin. The subject is what the object shows: a saint, an animal, a tree, or an emperor. A painting of Jesus Christ is not Jesus Christ: the object is the painting, the subject is Jesus Christ. So in your file, the object is a coin (which kind of coin? a denarius? a dupondius? an as? a SESTERTIUS !). The subject is the emperor Trajanus. So the correct categories that your file needs are "Category:Coins of Traianus" and "Category:Sestertius". It's true, both are categories of "Ancient Roman coins", but there is no overcategorization in this case. Best regards, --DenghiùComm (talk) 22:28, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please, don't blank your discussion page ! Thank you.[edit]

It's not allowed. --DenghiùComm (talk) 22:10, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@DenghiùComm: Hi, I think you are mistaken. Please point me to the relevant rule please. That would be more helpful than making an assertion about a rule. The rules I read said it is in fact allowed.

Ok, I asked more informations about this. The answer is "Archiving is far better, please see COM:ARCHIVE and {{Dont remove warnings}}. In the case of removal of text which is not unaddressed legitimate warnings, that is allowed.". I am sorry. Best regards, --DenghiùComm (talk) 10:05, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Numismatics[edit]

I just saw your wonderful uploads of many ancient coins and would like to invite you to join WikiProject Numismatics, we currently don't have many members but if you have requests or questions I'm sure that I or another volunteer would like to help you there, plus there are several resources there for importing images of coins to Wikimedia Commons. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 22:15, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Trung: Hi, thank you very much for your kind words! I will certainly take a look.

User talk:Ancientcoincollector

Contents

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

Welcome![edit]

Thank you[edit]

Commons categorisation[edit]

Please, don't blank your discussion page ! Thank you.[edit]

WikiProject Numismatics[edit]

Navigation menu

User talk:Ancientcoincollector

Notification about possible deletion[edit]

Welcome![edit]

Thank you[edit]

Commons categorisation[edit]

Please, don't blank your discussion page ! Thank you.[edit]

WikiProject Numismatics[edit]

Navigation menu

Search