User talk:Alexis Jazz/Proper use of Flickr2Commons

I'm not sure if this will be an effective way to discuss the issues. Discussing on each individual user page doesn't seem ideal because many issues overlap. I'm doing it on here instead of the VP because my style may make it look like something.. less than positive. It's just my style, don't take it personally. I don't know how to write this otherwise without being extremely boring. If you're mentioned here, you're not guilty or anything - but there is probably room for improvement in your uploads.

The discussion at User:Guanaco's proposal Commons:Village pump/Proposals#Restrict usage of Flickr2Commons shows there is some irritation regarding the way Flickr2commons is used. As I already suggested there, perhaps we should discuss this with the users in question. I have most probably missed many, you are simply users I noticed at some point.

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User:SecretName101: you registered 8 years ago. You're not a rookie. But Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with hastemplate:"CC-BY" insource:flickr insource:/"reviewlicense=Public Domain Mark"/ seems like a rookie mistake. Other than the license issue, several of these photos like File:Washington Capitals Parade (42854006561).jpg [7] or File:Washington Capitals Parade (42183051974).jpg [8] don't seem like they could ever be used in any article on any project. And File:Stanley Cup Parade (42853177361).jpg [9] is not only bad, it's a derivative work.

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User:Mindmatrix: File:Fantastic video of pat and i on a ride (shot by andrew) (2775293353).png and File:GO TRAIN (2986002472).png are just thumbnails from Flickr videos. Flickr2Commons can't handle video. But even if I put that aside, assume the videos [10] [11] had been uploaded. Low resolution, shaky phone camera video, "GO TRAIN" having only "Toronto" as a category, "Fantastic video of pat and i on a ride (shot by andrew)" (that filename is absolutely brilliant for all the wrong reasons) having only Canadian National Exhibition in 2008. How would we use these on any project? There is also File:-6 365 06.01.2011- Snow! (5332045236).jpg. In response to my remark about renaming, categorizing and photoshopping this Koavf decided to actually use it so my work wouldn't just be for a file nobody would ever see. An example was made out of it, but this kind of uploads is really not up to snuff.

I try to filter out files in batch uploads, but some get through nonetheless. It doesn't imply I think they belong on Commons; when processing the new uploads, I nominate these low-quality ones for deletion as I find them. I use generic top-level categories to sort files at time of upload, and later inspect that category to sort files into better subcategories. Mindmatrix 13:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, it's kind of descriptive for how some feel about these uploads[3]

User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao You've uploaded a bunch of photos for Category:2011 Independence Day Parade (Washington, D.C.). My first question would be: would people really be that interested in a parade from 2011 in 2018? Obviously for historic purposes though, it is easily justified to upload some quality photos. Which makes me ponder what File:Independence day Parade 2011 DC - 0ii (5906184948).jpg could ever be used for. Or File:Independence day Parade 2011 DC - 0do (5905284841).jpg (what is this?). Some photos like File:Independence day Parade 2011 DC - 0he (5905587801).jpg really could be usable, but there is only one category. Nothing to describe what we actually see. So anyone looking for this kind of photo will never be able to find it.

I've always wanted a photo of him from this angle[4]

User:B dash: you know why you're mentioned. I'm happy you appear to no longer tag existing files as duplicate. I just wanted to include you in this discussion. This photo is one from a set that was already uploaded by another user, but that user selectively removed some photos from the set before uploading. This is one of those, this wasn't a duplicate.

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User:Rudolphous: you know why I mentioned you. I hope your future uploads will all have good descriptions, categorization and no fluff. I do wonder if you're planning on revisiting your existing uploads to improve them as well?

Rivisited all pictures of Suriname. Did around 200 edits. If you find other weirdness, let me know. Or make a dedicated page of it Rudolphous (talk) 21:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh hi Nessie![6]

User:Victorgrigas: I don't have to explain anything, I'll let the photo speak..

I also have a question for everyone. Why? Why do this mass uploading? Are you trying to backup Flickr? Do you assume other users enjoy cleaning up your uploads? (maybe you should try to team up with users who are interested in categorizing what you upload..) Do you think storage is free for Wikimedia? What is your philosophy behind these uploads? - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 04:51, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Added User:Victorgrigas. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 04:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

With the Mark Saffle images, it is evident the uploader was the photographer. He uploaded them as CC-1.0, thus I presumed it would be safe to identify them as CC-BY. SecretName101 (talk) 01:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

And in what world is File:Washington Capitals Parade (42854006561).jpg of no potential use??? Shows crowds of Capitals fans attending the parade, and illustrates the close proximity between the National Museum of African American Culture and the Washington Monument.SecretName101 (talk) 01:36, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@SecretName101: but it doesn't show the actual parade. I wouldn't argue about File:Washington Capitals Parade (27985215297).jpg. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 04:30, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

again, also illustrates the relation between two landmark buildings. SecretName101 (talk) 04:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@SecretName101: it doesn't matter anyway when the categories, description and filename don't mention those buildings. Nobody looking for it will ever be able to find it. - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz, there are category tags for that reason.SecretName101 (talk) 05:17, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

What are you trying to say? - Alexis Jazz ^{ping plz} 05:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)