Template talk:Institution/2012

Parameters

Parameters similar to those {{Creator}} could be used here but I am not sure how useful they would be

• Authorities (VIAF for the Louvre here). Probably less useful than for creator but it seems consistent to have it.
• Alternative names (we currently have "native name" but in cases like churches, there may be many more than that)
• a "type" parameter (a bit like occupation) It would look silly in many cases ("Boston Museum of Fine Arts type=Museum of Fine arts") but could sometimes be useful. --Zolo (talk) 11:26, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

This template started as an offshoot of the {{Creator}} and I copied all the fields I though were relevant at the time. However I agree that it might be worth it to revisit this:

• That said I think we should add some authority control field. My preference would be to create {{Institution authority control}} similar to {{Authority control}} and let people call that template. The candidate parameters would be:

• VIAF
• link to OSM page and outline on the map (see Template_talk:Location#Add_an_optionnal_parameter_for_OpenStreetMap
• possibly other

• Alternative names - so far I never run into a case when I needed it, since most GLAM institution have one official name, but churches, castles, convents, etc. might have multiple names.
• Type - I was toying with the possible uses of type. One idea I had was to add an icon similar to the way en:Template:Museum works. But each time we have an icon clicking it should get you somewhere and I did not have many ideas where. May be category with other institutions of the same type. I was also not sure where to place the icon. Top bar seemed logical but I do not want to overwhelm it with possibly unnecessary junk. As a result I shelved the idea.

--Jarekt (talk) 14:11, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

For authority control. It should also inclue GKD, that is used in {{Authority control}} but is for institutions. LCCN is also used for institutions. Another problem is that a few creators are actually corporations or the like, not individuals. Actually I am beginning to wonder if it was such a good idea to add so many parameters in {{Authority control}}. The idea behind VIAF, was to make the participating institutions numbers unncessary. If we added all of the some creator would have 15 authorities. But true, for now there are currently more cats with PND than with VIAF, and links (notably BNF) look much better through direct link that through VIAF link. I dont know about OSM either, it is an ID so it makes sense, but it is geographic info, not institution info, so it makes sens it coordinates as well.

I like the idea of icons, but dont know how to place it either. And if they are too be of some help to the non-informed readers, we will hae to find clearer ones than en.wp--Zolo (talk) 22:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Since most databases are the same as for creators and since anyway some non people are already in category:Categories with authority control data, I would suggest to use the same authority control template as for creators.--Zolo (talk) 21:01, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Linkback not working

The linkback doesn't seem to be working for me (FF9, Win 7). Clicking on it just opens/closes the box. The link works for {{Creator}}--Strainu (talk) 12:45, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

It does work for me (FF9, Win XP). You click, box opens/closes than you wait and nothing happens and than you end up on the creator page. In the old days you had to click on the arrow to open/close the box, but something changed in the software and now you can click anywhere. Very confusing. How is the linkback working for others? --Jarekt (talk) 12:53, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

I have just upgraded from FF8 to FF10 but no link works in neither of them (creator templates work though...)--Zolo (talk) 10:04, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the weird part. The 2 templates seem to have the same code. I must be missing something simple :)--Strainu (talk) 11:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Actually some it works in English, but not in other languages because the "linkback" parameter is missing (compar {{Institution/en}} and {{Institution/ro}}. Having this template translatewikied to avoid that kind of problem.--Zolo (talk) 18:42, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I added | linkback = {{{linkback|}}} to all 5 language subtemplates missing it. This should fix it. As for move to translatewiki, I agree. Strangely although it is a vital part of Commons there is no documentation for it, here or on translatewiki. It seems like the only way to do it is to ask user:Multichill, who knows the process. I will ask him. --Jarekt (talk) 19:46, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanksZolo (talk) 20:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing this Jarekt!--Strainu (talk) 22:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

I have posted a [http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Village_pump&diff=prev&oldid=66827261 message on the Village Pump about translatewiki. --Zolo (talk) 08:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Authority control

I added support for adding {{Authority control}} template, similar to the way {{Creator}} template does it, after I noticed people trying to use it. Apparently many museums are listed in VIAF and other catalogs. --Jarekt (talk) 04:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The coordinates link is not working at to moment in file namespace. See Commons_talk:Geocoding#Coordinate_duplication for more info. --Jarekt (talk) 01:09, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Better RTL compatibility

{{Editprotected}} Hi, please use

File:Gnome-go-{{#ifeq:{{dir|{{int:Lang}}}}|rtl|next|previous}}.svg

instead of File:Gnome-go-previous.svg in Template:Institution/layout. It will switch the icon when visitor wiki is RTL. Thanks in advance! :) −ebraminio^talk 15:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done --Jarekt (talk) 19:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)