Template talk:Communist symbol

Moldova

We need to add Moldova too: http://www.rferl.org/content/moldova-bans-communist-symbols/24643461.html --RedParty (talk) 08:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

COM:OVERCAT

This template should not put images into Category:Symbols of communism, because each symbol belongs only in its respective category. E.g. File:10 Pfennig DDR Bildseite.JPG is (indirectly) in Category:Coats of arms of the German Democratic Republic, which either belongs or does not belong in Category:Symbols of communism. But never ever does an image with a GDR emblem belong there directly. Neither does any other communist symbol, which has its own category. --Watchduck (quack) 22:51, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

So then an image is double-categorized - why not when only this category provides the legality-warning? --Bernd.Brincken (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Hammer and sickle in Germany

While the flag of the old KPD en:Communist Party of Germany is still banned in Germany under en:Strafgesetzbuch section 86a of the German criminal code, the en:Hammer and sickle symbol itself is considered a universal symbol, and is legally used by the newer DKP en:German Communist Party and various other organisations and publications; see also (in german) de:Verwenden_von_Kennzeichen_verfassungswidriger_Organisationen#Kennzeichen_verbotener_Parteien.

So this line has to be removed from the list:

• Germany's Criminal Code §86a, referring to the "use of symbols of unconstitutional organizations" outside the contexts of "art or science, research or teaching"

--Bernd.Brincken (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Removed the respective line here: Template:Communist_symbol/en --Bernd.Brincken (talk) 14:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Republic of China (Taiwan)'s National Security Law

@Liuxinyu970226 and CreeperDigital1903: Hi! I see you added the statement "Republic of China in Taiwan's National Security Act (bans mainly affect flags of the People's Republic of China and symbols reflect the Chinese Communist Party)" to this template in Special:Diff/590131185 and w:zh:Special:Diff/67530799. But I fail to find an applicable entry in the latest 108 (2019) revision of 國家安全法 (National Security Law) of Republic of China / Taiwan [1]. And by searching with relevant keywords in Google, I find some news reports and discussions regarding this fact in 2020 and 2021[2][3][4], which appear to imply that such proposed regulation is neither passed by the legislature nor effective at all. Could you please confirm this statement? Thanks. --虹易 (talk) 01:41, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

You may want to ask @Chubit: on why they added such statements: special:diff/585136361 and special:diff/585136690. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:05, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

PS: Taiwan NSA said something which probably is the reason Chubit added so:

“

第二條之一 (禁止為外國或大陸等地區從事危害國家安全之行為) 　　人民不得為外國、大陸地區、香港、澳門、境外敵對勢力或其派遣之人為下列行為： 　　一、發起、資助、主持、操縱、指揮或發展組織。 　　二、洩漏、交付或傳遞關於公務上應秘密之文書、圖畫、影像、消息、物品或電磁紀錄。 　　三、刺探或收集關於公務上應秘密之文書、圖畫、影像、消息、物品或電磁紀錄。

”

Any official translations available? if not:

“

Article II.1 (prohibition on doing behaviors that endanger the national security for the sake of foreign countries or Mainland China) Peoples are not allowed to do the following behaviors, for the sake of foreign countries, Mainland area, Hong Kong, Macau, overseas hostile forces, or humans dispatched by them: a. Initiate, subsidize, take care of, operate, command or develop the organizations. b. Disclose, pay or send documents, images, videos, messages, stuffs or digital records in regard to official purposes that should be secret. c. Spy out or collect documents, images, videos, messages, stuffs or digital records in regard to official purposes that should be secret.

”

--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: Thanks for the reply. The (almost) same statement appears to be added into the law in the 85 (1996) revision: s:zh:國家安全法_(民國85年).

第二條之一 (不得為外國或大陸地區蒐集傳遞公務秘密) 人民不得為外國或大陸地區行政、軍事、黨務或其他公務機構或其設立、指定機構或委託之民間團體刺探、蒐集、交付或傳遞關於公務上應秘密之文書、圖畫、消息或物品，或發展組織。

Article 2-1 (Do not collect and transmit official secrets for foreign countries or mainland areas) The people shall not spy, collect, deliver or spy on administrative, military, party or other government agencies in foreign countries or mainland regions or their established, designated agencies or entrusted non-governmental organizations. To pass on documents, pictures, messages or items that should be kept secret in official business, or to develop organizations.

as a supplement to the previously existing one

第二條 (集會結社之限制)人民集會、結社，不得主張共產主義，或主張分裂國土。前項集會、結社，另以法律定之。 Article 2 (Restrictions on Assemblies and Associations) People's assemblies and associations shall not advocate communism or advocate splitting the country. The assemblies and associations in the preceding paragraph shall be stipulated separately by law.

which is removed in the 100 (2011) revision s:zh:國家安全法_(民國100年).

And in addition to the aforementioned reports on the proposed regulation in 2020, there are many reports of "waving flags of the People's Republic of China in Taiwan" in recent years [5], even just two months ago[6]. These sources turn out to contradict that statement.

@Chubit: Could you please confirm that? Thanks.

--虹易 (talk) 08:45, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

And there is even, literally, a Communist Party called "臺灣人民共產黨" (People's Communist Party of Taiwan)[7] officially registered, whose logo is a mixture of the "five-star flag" and "hammer & sickle".--虹易 (talk) 08:57, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

I am removing these text for now as the "ban" appears not to be listed in the aforementioned law. Also after some searching, I cannot find the "ban" in any other effective (or historical) laws of RoC/Taiwan.--虹易 (talk) 12:13, 2 May 2022 (UTC)