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No signature

This version of the script does not sign notifications left on user talk pages. I don't want to leave anonymous, undated notices which won't be picked up correctly by archiving bots. I'd also rather not receive {{Sign}} notices as a result of using this gadget. LX (talk, contribs) 17:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll add that in a sec--DieBuche (talk) 18:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Done--DieBuche (talk) 18:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Awesome. Just to nitpick: could you remove the "--" preceding the ~~~~, please? If people want dashes in their signature, they can add them to their custom signature. (I do, but I don't want that many.) Cheers! LX (talk, contribs) 19:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Done as well. Tryphoon agreed they're not needed, I personally don't really care--DieBuche (talk) 12:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again! LX (talk, contribs) 15:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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Edit conflict

Beim alten Tool wurde bei Bearbeitungskonflikten auf der Benutzerdisk die erste Warnung von der zweiten Warnung überschrieben. Nun bekomme ich wenn ich schnell hintereinander zwei Seiten markiere bei der zweiten Seite ein "An error occurred while notifying[...] API request failed (unknownerror): Unknown error: ``231''. . Die Lösung des Problems liegt wohl einfach in der richtigen Anwendung. Trotzdem wollte ich den Fehler bekanntgeben. --Martin H. (talk) 10:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Sehr komisch, die Fehlermeldung für einen EC sieht anders aus (und kann eig. garnicht passieren da das script so einen extra befehl der API, appendtext nutzt). Zufolge der API seiten: "Unknown error: This usually means something crazy like a rare race condition occurred. If you get this error, retry your request until it succeeds or returns a more informative error message". Kannst du genau beschreiben was du gemacht hast?--DieBuche (talk) 10:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Klar, hier, die 4 Dateien wurden mit vll 3 Sekunden Abstand markiert, bei der 2. und 4. hatte ich die Meldung (glaube ich, das C&P stammt von der 4.). Firefox 3.6.8, MonoBook. p.s.: Ich gebe zu, 4 dateien zu markieren so schnell ist nicht die feine art und wahrscheinlich nicht gewöhnlich, aber ich wollte den endlich von meiner watchlist runterhaben. --Martin H. (talk) 10:13, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
So wirklich erklären kann ich mirs nicht, das ist irgendein return code des SQL servers, anscheinend ist er beim wirklichen Sichern gescheitert. hier ist das gleiche nochmal erwähnt. Jetzt grad kann ich nichts machen, aber sag nochmal bescheid falls es wieder passiert, dann öffne ich nen Bug für die API. --DieBuche (talk) 10:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Fixed. Wenn der 231 auftritt, wartet das script 0.5 sekunden und probiert es dann erneut, seitdem hab ich das nie wieder gesehen.--DieBuche (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
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undefined deletion reason

Could somebody add second parameter to prompt method call (empty string) in nominateForDeletion? I think it's IE-related feature -- it uses "undefined" as default string if only one parameter is used, so there are numerous DRs with "undefined" reason, usually they are quite annoying: 1, 2, for example. Trycatch (talk) 13:28, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the report, fixed now.--DieBuche (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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Double signatures

I have now seen several people with two signatures. Could we possibly do some replacement before submitting. Probably something like:

reason = reason.replace(/^\s*(.+)\s*$/,'$1'); // trim whitespace
reason = reason.replace(/(.+)(--)?~{3,5}$/,'$1'); // remove signature

--The Evil IP address (talk) 13:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Deployed. --DieBuche (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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There is an error for not logged in users

When not logged in I get an error message when loading images.

TypeError: wgUserGroups is null. http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:AjaxQuickDelete.js&acton=raw&ctype=text/javascript (39)

Fix that as soon as possible. --32X (talk) 10:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Already done. You might have an old version in your cache--DieBuche (talk) 10:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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Missing typeof?

Isn't missing a typeof of in the following line?

if (jQuery.ui == undefined)

Helder 15:39, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed by User:TheDJ--DieBuche (talk) 17:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
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Move and Replace Gadget: strange resulting file name

please see http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Arcybiskup_Henryk_Hoser_w_soborze_%C5%9Bw._Marii_Magdaleny_w_Warszawie.jpg&action=history The last move was done with mediawiki directly. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 17:06, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, aber ich blicke da nicht ganz durch. Wohin sollte es eigentlich gehen? Oder meinst du das in der Geschichte der Name nicht verlinkt ist?--DieBuche (talk) 17:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, ich half nur einem User, der die Datei wohl da haben wollte, wo sie nun auch ist. Er verwendete das Move & Replace Gadget. Es kam aber anscheinend immer mehr Murks zum Dateinamen hinzu, statt, dass die Datei auf dem richtigen Zielnamen landete. Zum Delinker wurde auch nichts hinzugefügt, wenn ich es richtig gesehen habe (nur ein manueller Eintrag von mir).
Ich hatte bei meinem ersten Move-Versuch dann auch das Gadget verwendet und wollte von
"File:Arcybiskup Henryk Hoser w soborze św. Marii Magdaleny w Warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny.jpg"
nach
"File:Arcybiskup Henryk Hoser w soborze św. Marii Magdaleny w Warszawie.jpg"
verschieben. Die Datei war dann aber unter:
"File:Arcybiskup Henryk Hoser w soborze św. Marii Magdaleny w Warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. marii magdaleny.jpg".
Mehr weiß ich leider auch nicht. Liegt es vielleicht an den Sonderzeichen? Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 01:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Es lag an den mehrfachen .jpgs: Das script überprüft ob der neue name die Dateiendungen, und an der stelle kam als Dateiendung . marii magdaleny w warszawie.jpg. sowas raus. Sollte nicht mehr auftreten--DieBuche (talk) 09:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Merci! Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 00:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Danke sehr! Masur (talk) 05:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
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Missing links on some images?

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File:Meireles.jpg is missing the deletion links. I have never seen this before the gadget was switched to the ajax version of the script. A quick browse through a few dozen new and old files did not turn up any others that were affected. LX (talk, contribs) 17:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Right now it's configured to not display the links if there is already a delete/no permission/no source template on the page. --DieBuche (talk) 18:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I see. I'd still prefer if it were still possible to mark a file for speedy deletion as a copyvio even if it has a {{No license since}} tag. This is often the case with newly uploaded files where the uploader has chosen the "I don't know" option. If they are obvious copyvios, we shouldn't wait 7+ days to delete them. LX (talk, contribs) 18:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
You can still add the tag by first clicking on edit & then the links will appear. It was mainly added to prevent people from adding multiple {{Delete}} templates on an image. Maybe we should only hide it for IPs and not confirmed users?--DieBuche (talk) 18:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
That's a useful tip for now, and I think a good idea as well. LX (talk, contribs) 19:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Disabled for now, too much confusion caused. What do you thing about an alert('This image already has a problem tag, do you want to continue?'); --DieBuche (talk) 10:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Feature request: add pages to watchlist

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I normally watchlist files that I add any kind of problem tag or deletion tag to. I also watchlist user talk pages on which I leave messages. (Deletion discussions that I start are also added thanks to the option to watch all pages I create.) Some of these things are made harder by the script, since it doesn't open up those windows. It would be great to be able to set the script to watch these pages automatically. LX (talk, contribs) 17:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Right now it watchlists the DR page, uses the user preference on watchlisting for talk pages, and doesn't change the current watch status for the daily list. I'll add an option to also watch the user pages--DieBuche (talk) 18:11, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
You can enable it by putting
var AjaxDeleteWatchUserTalk = true;
inside your vector.js. Do you think it should be the default behaviour instead?--DieBuche (talk) 18:28, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Awesomesauce. Obviously, I should RTFC. I don't particularly care about other people ;) so you can leave the default alone. Are these things documented somewhere other than in the code? LX (talk, contribs) 18:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Not yet, but I'll start some documentation later today. --DieBuche (talk) 18:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Would it be possible to also add an option to add the file description page to the watchlist, say, by adding something like if (window.AjaxDeleteWatchFile) page.watchlist = 'watch'; to prependDeletionTemplate() and prependAnyTemplate()? LX (talk, contribs) 23:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Done--DieBuche (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Spam blacklist

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If copyvio is added with a weblink on the meta:Spam blacklist nothing happens, also no error message. Consequently no warning is added to the user talk. Its ok that nothing happens but maybe people will wonder why nothing happened. I tried adding http://www.online-casino.foo to a random file (my own work of course ;) ). --Martin H. (talk) 12:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Ich wollt mich erst beschweren dass die API keinen Error gibt, hab jetzt aber gesehen dass sie zumindestens irgendwie drauf hinweist: Das Ergebniss des Calls ist: {"edit":{"spamblacklist":"http:\/\/www.online-casino","result":"Failure"}} . Bin grad am umziehen, danach bau ich einen check ins JS, damit das dem Benutzer mitgeteilt wird.--DieBuche (talk) 14:18, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
(eigentlich sollten fehler nähmlich so mitgeteilt werden <error code="code" info="info" />)--DieBuche (talk) 14:22, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Danke für deine großartige Arbeit, dass Tool macht echt Freude und ist eine große Verbesserung - tut mir leid dass ich mit den Informationen nichts anfangen kann, mach du mal ;) --Martin H. (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Danke, das hört man gerne. Ich werd in nächster Zeit auch für die Dateiverscheibungen was basteln, so dass mit einem Click das Bild verschoben, der Delinker beauftragt, und das Rename template wieder entfernt wird --DieBuche (talk) 14:57, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Ein Fehler wird jetzt ausgegeben, das move script is btw auch live--DieBuche (talk) 19:44, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Secure server?

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See Commons:Forum#Löschvorlage. Lupo 12:30, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Answered there, it works for me on the secure server (?); To fix, I'll need a more detailed report. --DieBuche (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Tools broken

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Hello,

The warning and deletion tools are broken for me. I get "TypeError: Cannot call method 'getElementsByTagName' of null". My browser is Chromium 5.0.375.99 on Ubuntu. Yann (talk) 18:24, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Can't really reproduce :( . Clearing your cache might help, otherwise: Where exactly is the error thrown; do you see the buttons at all?--DieBuche (talk) 14:36, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Other input

CfD

Nice. Just one step seems to be missing: it doesn't notify the category creator (e.g. Wst for Tests). There also few minor things: parts still use the terminology from DR: edit summary on the subpage that is being created (currently "Starting deletion request"), screen message when doing stuff ("adding nominating page to the daily discussion page"). The edit on Category:Tests shouldn't be marked minor.  Docu  at 15:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

One click duplicate remover template?

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After your great work streamlining rename request template, I was wondering if you'd like to take on duplicates? --99of9 (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

I thought about that as well, but stopped for the following reason: In opposite to the rename process, where you only need to make sure that the title is ok, the duplicate deletion involves comparing the files, completing/merging the info templates, sometimes even resolving contradictory license information. Since it should be carefully checked, I don't think a "one-click-solution" would be the best idea here, it might lead to people using it without checking the files properly first.--DieBuche (talk) 14:24, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Despite those issues, I personally still think it would be a net benefit. But one smaller thing that would help is a single click to create the final redirect. At the moment there's a link which opens it up for editing, but it could autofill the created file with #REDIRECT ... --99of9 (talk) 02:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Dialogue boxes broken in Monobook

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The last set of updates don't work well for users of the Monobook skin. Instead of a dialogue box, I just get the text, an input box which is cut off on the right-hand side and two buttons, all overlaid on top of the image (which means the text is unreadable if the image is predominantly black). LX (talk, contribs) 16:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like jquery is available to all users now, but not yet jquery UI ? TheDJ (talk) 16:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Any word on when this might be fixed? I also noticed some other strange behavior with this version: sometimes, when canceling the tagging and then proceeding again to tag it, the text that had been entered when it was first canceled is what actually gets used. Reproducible fairly often, but not 100% of the time. As it stands, I'd rather have the old behavior with a proper dialogue box back. LX (talk, contribs) 14:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
^ Yes, this bug is very annoying. Several times I've created empty or nonsense DRs because of it. Trycatch (talk) 15:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that this change may fix that.... TheDJ (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
No, the bug is not fixed. Trycatch (talk) 02:19, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Hmm? ... Works for me now in Monobook (Firefox 3.6.10). Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
The problem is that we are loading the jqueryUI JS, but not the UI CSS. I'll try and get that fixed. TheDJ (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
The CSS should now be loading. TheDJ (talk) 17:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
see also http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Server_admin_log. The retained input bug is fixed. Problem was, that if you closed the dialog with the esc-key instead of the cancel button, the values didn't get purged. Also @Docu, the cfd action now notifies the creator.--DieBuche (talk) 11:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC) 
Yes, looks like now it works, thanks. BTW -- could you give focus to the dialog editbox immediately after clicking "Nominate for deletion"? It's slightly annoying to select it by mouse all the time. Trycatch (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Sure, that's easy. Should be done in a few minutes--DieBuche (talk) 17:37, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Strange thing, but it doesn't work in Opera (works fine in Chrome & Firefox). Trycatch (talk) 13:39, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Keep redirect when moving files

We should keep redirect when administrators are trying to move files. In COM:FR#How to rename a file?, the statement is clearly declared: "In most cases a file redirect should be left on the original page, except if it is a misleading or promotional name." The tool seems to suppress file redirects. It was quite unexpected and embarrassing me. Could you configure to keep redirects as default or to make the way to choose whether to delete file redirects? Thank you. – Kwj2772 (msg) 14:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

At the moment, only a "simple" move does not leave behind a redirect. The reasoning is that this command is only used for relative new files that are not yet in use, and leaving redirects behind is thus not that important. With the new jquery UI, i guess we could easily have a checkbox for the leaving of a redirect... TheDJ (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
There is a checkbox since a while. -- 11:23, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
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Move and Replace Gadget: Can't move a file to a non-file namespace

I tried to move a File to "somefoofilename.jpg" instead of "File:somefoofilename.jpg":

An error occurred while nominating this file for deletion. To nominate this file for deletion, please edit the page to add the {{delete}} template and follow the instructions shown on it. A detailed description of the error is shown below: API request failed (nonfilenamespace): Can't move a file to a non-file namespace Report the error here

Obivously some text needs to be adjusted for the move gadget.

Additionally the error window was too small in height. The error was difficult to read. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 22:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry fo the late response, both issues (unreadable and the error happening at all) are fixed now--DieBuche (talk) 22:57, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Viele Grüße --Saibo (Δ) 23:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
I'm still getting those error messages myself.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 00:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Help!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 13:57, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you have an example page? --DieBuche (talk) 14:03, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Regarding my artificial error: I cleared my browser's cache and the appearance changed but the error is still: "An error occurred while nominating this file for deletion." However, the windows containing the text is now big enough to show it.
But another error occured: the skript has removed the rename template from the files page! Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I was too lazy to change the text, since the error is now nearly impossible to happen. Did you mean that the error happened after the template was removed?--DieBuche (talk) 01:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, okay. :D I now have two "errors": 1: If I omit the "File:" when renaming the resulting error message is about "deleting files" 2: If such an error occurs the move template should stay on the files page since the file is not moved. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:30, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Turned out to be a simple typo: cleanup instead of cleanUp ;)--DieBuche (talk) 01:43, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Tested (error 1): Now you are ignoring that I have deleted the "File:" ;) Why display it then? Isn't displaying foo.jpg instead of File:foo.jpg sufficient? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 02:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

can't move file to a non-file space name

That's the message I got for File:Zeichen 103.svg. --Havang(nl) (talk) 14:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Please empty your cache and see above--DieBuche (talk) 15:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks.--Havang(nl) (talk) 15:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I cleared the cache but File:JOF.jpg gave me the same error as above when I tried to move it to File:James Owen Fender.jpg. Dr.K. (talk) 02:35, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I just saw that someone created this non-image page. Dr.K. (talk) 02:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
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Bugs?

These comments were moved from Commons:Village pump.

When I nominate one of my subpages for deletion, the script notified myself. It shouldn't do so, since I already know I'm requesting deletion of my pages. This would avoid doing this.

Besides, for both css and js pages which I nominated it displayed "404 error: File not found" after completed. Helder 17:06, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Could you move this to Mediawiki talk:AjaxQuickDelete.js, & I'll look into it later--DieBuche (talk) 17:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I've (hopefully) fixed the notification bug: all it took was an "if (user == wgUserName) continue;" in the right spot. No idea what might be causing 404 errors, though. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Weird, that used to work (see line 477). Regarding the 404: For some reason http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User%3AHelder.wiki/monobook.css works, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User%3AHelder.wiki%2Fmonobook.css doesn't (compare the slash before monobook). OT: You don't need the create a deletion request for your own pages, just put a {{Speedy}} on it--DieBuche (talk) 23:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I see... the problem was that the wgUserName check was missing from the "First handle non-file pages" branch above. Anyway, having it in notifyUploaders() works just as well, and catches more possible cases. (What if someone transferred an image from Flickr using Flickr upload bot, and then nominated it for deletion.) —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 05:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding th utility function: See http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/resources/mediawiki.util/mediawiki.util.js?view=markup , which will be available with RL--DieBuche (talk) 08:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
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"Nominate category for discussion" on Category:Waldsterben

I cannot use this tool for Category:Waldsterben. The reason is that the creator (User:ArtMechanic) died and his discussion page is therefore protected. So the author cannot be notified and the whole process stops. This is sure an odd exception. I still recommend to just give a message "Notification failed" (plus a link to the user-discussion-page) and to proceed without the notification. Notifying is sure the polite thing to do but IMHO not crucial to start a discussion. Greetings Jahobr (talk) 12:34, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk pages should never be protected. -- RE rillke questions? 14:41, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Consensus had been to protect talk pages of dead users. I suggest also tagging them with {{Nobots}} to avoid breaking bots, gadgets, etc.   — Jeff G. ツ 13:27, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I added this template. --Leyo 22:32, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
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Feature request: Checkbox for notifying user

It would be awesome if we could get a checkbox in the popup that allows us to uncheck it if we don't want to notify the uploader (for various reasons such as wanting to leave a custom message instead, prevent spamming when nominating multiple files from the same user, nominating your own files, nominating files uploaded by a upload bot, etc.). Rocket000 (talk) 07:51, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I see this is already on the TODO list. Rocket000 (talk) 07:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Btw, It already excludes yourself, people with {{Nobots}} on their page, and for most bots It finds the "real" uploader--DieBuche (talk) 10:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I didn't know that. A checkbox would still be nice though. :) Rocket000 (talk) 13:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

With the next release, the addressee can decide which messages they want to receive. -- Rillke(q?) 20:10, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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For self

Find problems with videos--DieBuche (talk) 22:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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