Commons talk:WikiProject BSicon

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See here also other discussions about BSicons, or expand:
Main talk:
“Gallery” talk:
Category talk:

Talk pages[edit]

In an effort to consolidate all of the BSicon discussions, please introduce new topics on one of these pages:


More talks can be found at:

Project talk[edit]

Category talk[edit]

File talk[edit]

There may be more. Some of these may refer to more than a single file, but to the whole set they belong to; those discussions should be moved here.

Wikipedia talk[edit]

Note that these pages should be used for discussions about the Catalog pages, not specific BSicons.

Deletion requests[edit]

Barnstar[edit]

vKBHFa
STRc2
STRc3
STRc2 STR3+1 STRc14 STR2+4 STRc3
STRc4 BAHN STRc1
STRc1 v-STR+4 uSTRc2
uSTRc3 vSTR+1- STRc4
uSTR3+1 uSTRc14 uSTR2+4
uSTRc4 uSTRc1

Just a thought… I'm sure someone else can come up with something better. Useddenim (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Moved from Talk:BSicon/Icon topology and semantics

As said somewhere else we “need” a barnstar. Here’s a suggestion — you'll need to check it at my user page at wp:pt because Commons lacks multiple overlay support (something else we need to fix); it could be recreated as a single SVG file. -- Tuválkin ✉ 14:17, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Placement[edit]

What has really been bugging me lately is the lack of consistency across pages. The diagrams are often placed in different spots in each thread, sometimes under its own sectional header, sometimes in the infobox. I think we should standardise where the diagrams should be placed.

The two most popular placements; in the infobox or under a header would be preferred. Deonyi 07:08, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

That’s a matter pertaining to each project, not to Commons. I agree it should be standartized, in principle (many exceptions, though), but each project has its own policies and technical details concerning infoboxes and the like. Also, the standartization you seek will be only possible when all projects share the same templates. -- Tuválkin ✉ 10:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They do not share the same templates? If you mean infoboxes, depending on the placement, you could update it to include the map or remove the particular code and place it on its own.Deonyi 00:56, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I meant the BS-templates — they need to be synchronized across projects before any other standartization is even possible. That’s one of our goals and one of our open tasks. -- Tuválkin ✉ 10:26, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Locks icons are scrambled[edit]

Hi, a number of lock icons seem to be scrambled. The page is still there, but the actual icon does not display, and it has caused mayhem to break out on the waterways maps on en:Wikipedia. So far, I have found   (uFGATEd),   (uFGATEu) and   (uSTAIRd). Bob1960evens (talk) 10:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have now reported these on Phabricator. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
These files appear to be valid SVG images, except that that they lack two or three features which are not, strictly speaking, required; but some user agents may fail to process them properly if these features are absent. These are: (i) a DTD - the line 
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>
may be inserted at the very start to fix this; (ii) there is no SVG version information, so the opening ‎<svg> tag should be given the attributes xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" version="1.1" in addition to those that it already has. --Redrose64 (talk; at English Wikipedia) 15:53, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is more serious than the svg. Aklapper, who is dealing with the Phabricator report, I think, suggests they are generating an HTTP 429 error, and commons fails to load the files. It has just started happening, and my setup has not changed for years. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:58, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Phabricator T181507 has been closed as declined. The error has only just occurred, and the files have displayed correctly for years. I have tried adding various stuff to the front of the file, in line with other icons that still work, but BSicon_uFGATEd.svg still fails to display. Bob1960evens (talk) 14:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
After a second attempt, uFGATEd eventually displayed properly. I will try the others. Bob1960evens (talk) 15:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User page template[edit]

  • On the project page i read that creating a better user page template is one of the open tasks. So some months before I had designed a template which could fit in this task – but on de:WP. So I translated and moved it to Commons and you can look at it here. What do you think? If I have to improve something, just write it down here or on the template's talk page. -- C21H22N2O2 /talk/lab/de/en 20:35, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ronhjones died[edit]

Very sad. More info here; you can say you miss him here. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 03:09, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology and translation (end of line stations)[edit]

  • head station; Kopfbahnhof
    head station; Kopfbahnhof
  • end station, ex track to the right; Kopfbahnhof, ex Strecke nach rechts
    end station, ex track to the right; Kopfbahnhof, ex Strecke nach rechts
  • ex terminal station, track to the right; Kopfbahnhof, Strecken nach rechts
    ex terminal station, track to the right; Kopfbahnhof, Strecken nach rechts
  • closed station: terminus of closed line, through line remains open
    closed station: terminus of closed line, through line remains open

The four examples above seem to use four different English terms for the same thing ("head station", "end station", "terminal station", "terminus").

They seem to describe stations at the end of line ("a terminus"). I'd suggest to use just one term.

Neither seems to translate as "Kopfbahnhof" (at least when following de:Kopfbahnhof). So some other term in German should be found. Enhancing999 (talk) 08:04, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nonetheless, they all more-or-less adequately convey the meaning. A more serious problem are all the icons that have descriptions that merely say "BSicon", "Icon for railway diagrams", or something equally vague. Useddenim (talk) 19:12, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It depends what you consider "more-or-less adequate". Using different or incorrect descriptions for similar icons can be confusing and lead to mis-categorization.
"Kopfbahnhof" is "Säckstation" in Swedish and "gare en cul-de-sac" in French. While this may be appropriate for some lines, in general, it's not and doesn't adequately describe the type of station. Accordingly Category:Dead-end_train_stations isn't applicable to these icons.
Once they are all in correct categories, the detailed description is secondary. Please leave my comment(s) here. I don't want to discuss galleries. Enhancing999 (talk) 06:49, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
None of these icons are in Category:Dead-end train stations but all are correctly categorized within Category:BSicon/railway sub-cats, so I don't know what the issue is. And what do image galleries have to do with this discussion? Useddenim (talk) 13:54, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing, which is why I undid your moving of my comment.
Talk:BSicon (where I tried to move this discussion) is about the icons themselves; Talk:BSicon/Catalogue is for the catalogue pages (or "galleries", as you called them); and this page is for dicussing the BSicon project in general.
BSicon is a gallery. Enhancing999 (talk) 04:31, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
In name only; it's a catalog/directory/index for the BSicon project. (I have to use multiple synonyms since you seem to insist on using literal definitions.) Useddenim (talk) 21:39, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's just bad to have a description "Säckstation" (or translation) on any of these icons. Enhancing999 (talk) 03:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
So fix them, instead of just complaining. (And I'm not aware of any icons that have descriptions in Swedish.) Useddenim (talk) 04:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are just dozens of icons that need to be fixed, but sure, I will do. Enhancing999 (talk) 04:30, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New icon[edit]

Moved to Talk:BSicon/New icons and icon requests#New icon
02:46, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
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