Commons talk:Pronunciation files requests

Language codes

If we're supposed to use ISO 639 for the language, then why do the instructions indicate only two letters? It should be three. And it seems as if people are already uploading their files according to two-letter country codes, not three-letter language codes.

Would anyone object if I clarified it and put the link to the ISO 639-article at english wikipedia up? - Karmosin 18:17, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

ISO 639 consists of two sub-standards, ISO-639 alpha-2 (for two-letter language codes) and ISO 639 alpha-3 (for three-letter language codes). For example, English can be en or eng. It's usually just en', as that's unambiguous.

That said, it's a good idea to be use both country and region code, like en-US or fr-CA, as some people already seem to be doing. We don't need revert wars between people who insist on their pronunciation. And certainly this place needs Image:en-CA-About.ogg. :) --Saforrest 03:43, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Another problem I just thought of. How should chinese and japanese words be dealt with? Should they be spelled with (hanyu) pinyin and nihon-shiki respectively or with characters? With or without accents, macrons and whathaveyou? - Karmosin 18:36, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Some users request that we make a difference between, say, fr_FR and fr_BE. However, pronunciation is by no means uniform within France; at it makes as much sense to include a typical "provençal" pronunciation as to include one with a francophone Belgian accent, given that the population of the PACA region is slightly larger than the francophone Belgian population. So how do we code this? fr_FR@Provence? David.Monniaux 16:00, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Template

does not fit perfectly here but please take a look at Template talk:Audio ...Sicherlich 07:59, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC) and why does Template talk:Audio not work?

Inclusion from en.wikipedia

The standard {{audio}} template on en wikipedia does not work with filenames containing non-iso-8859-1 characters, it seems. David.Monniaux 16:03, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Really odd. is not working on my PC (XP), but works fine on my iBook. doesn't give me trouble on either computer. Peter Isotalo 20:39, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is interesting, I have been looking for this. ..thanks will try add audio to Setswana wiktionary and other articles.... Best

Mompati Dikunwane (talk) 09:12, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Dialects not being noted, What is U.S. English?

The audio pronunciation guide/template rules are NOT stringent enough compared to audio rules for recording Wikipedia articles. I have encountered several speakers saying they are using "US English" to pronounce words. Unfortunately, the entire nation isn't going to agree that you wherever you are speaking the standard US English especially when it sounds very quaint in the ears of native speakers. (Ie: My little bout with the pronunciation of Minnesota by someone claiming to speak US English free of any regional dialect). Recognizing regional dialects in Wiki-land are a given, it's a rule, it's what makes Wikimedia an international product, above the influence of American imperialism. I really think we need to put reviews on new pronunciation files uploaded because no definitive regional dialect has been selected to be U.S. English. IE: It's quite false to say that my regional dialect is secondary to the original person who uploaded the pronunciation to Minnesota (and societal precedence once placed midwestern dialects as the standard U.S. English). There should be a tag made for people not in compliance with pronunciation file uploads (ie: not noting regional dialect, file info, sex of speaker, etc). And now what are we going to do about run-away people with a microphone and Audacity program claiming to represent all the U.S. English speakers? Davumaya 03:06, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Reviewing the naming conventions section

Regarding the Naming the files section on this project page I have some concerns. User:WikiLucas00 you may like to discuss.

1. Why is the 3 letter county code preferred over the 2 letter one used in Wikimedia urls? Eg its en.wiktionary.org not eng.wiktionary.org
2. Including the place of learning (or several) in the filename seems extreme. Some from Perth sounds very different than someone from Perth.
3. Not sure why the identifier is required. Personally I have a really long username that is distracting in filenames and we would need some sophisticated system to assign unique numbers to each recorder.
4. The filetypes doesn't mention .oga

Personally I preferred the old naming convention (eg "File:en-au-live1.wav") as it is simple and clean. All other information should be available on the file description page. I know all of this is moot while Lingua Libre uses it own fixed naming conventions but maybe we can shape those Lingua Libre conventions in the future.--Commander Keane (talk) 23:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

And why is the convention conflicting with the naming suggested in Category:Pronunciation? --Derbeth ^talk 07:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)