Commons:Requests for comment/Technical needs survey/Handle multiple creators in MediaViewer

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Fix MediaViewer's inability to handle collaborations

Description of the Problem

• Problem description:

When two or more creators created a work of media, MediaViewer will always reduce this to the first person with a Creator template. It functions perfectly well when names are given in text alone, however. For example:

This should list two creators, Humanité René Philastre and Charles-Antoine Cambon. It instead will only list one. There is, however, no single creator who's more "correct" than the other: This was a collaboration. This is, of course, misattribution, which is especially bad since MediaViewer presents itself as if it can provide an accurate credit line. This is not a new issue: The problem has been known about for a decade now, and really, really needs at least some resources thrown at it.

Alternatively, consider just defaulting to "See file description page" with a link there in any case where the conversion isn't trivial.

• Proposal type: bugfix

• Proposed solution:

I'd suggest it'd be easiest to move forwards by allowing two or more creator templates to be used: A Creator template and additional text breaks as well, but that, at least, can be worked around by making a Creator template (or Creator-like template) for additional people. Personally, I would suggest at least four Creator templates, because I can point to cases with four names easily: File:Edward_Duncan_-_The_Explosion_of_the_United_States_Steam_Frigate_Missouri.jpg.

• Phabricator ticket: T68606 - (from 2014!!!)

• Further remarks:
  • The other thing that doesn't work well in the MV are dates with precision lesser than days (e.g. months, years), that are displayed only as "1 January XXXX". — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 15:55, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

    For variable values of "January", or would even 2020-08 show as "1 January 2020"? - Jmabel ! talk 18:50, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

seriously, i dont know how mediawiki can have a component that's worse than a user-developed gadget Help:Gadget-GallerySlideshow for so long.

1. when switching images by pressing left or right arrows, GallerySlideshow can show the new ones instantly. MediaViewer lags.
2. GallerySlideshow can have a row of thumbnails on top. mv doesnt.
3. GallerySlideshow can handle multiple creators. mv cant.
4. GallerySlideshow can handle any kind of dates. mv cant.
5. GallerySlideshow shows the categories too. mv cant.--RZuo (talk) 23:53, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

   My understanding is that they got it mostly functional, put it live, fixed a couple glaring issues, then immediately dropped all development resources. It's the only way such basic issues could still exist. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Votes

1.  Support.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me}🇺🇦 09:51, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
2.  Support Bluerasberry (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
3. yes.--RZuo (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
4. yes. Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
5. yes. Abzeronow (talk) 16:39, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
6.  Support — Draceane ^talk_contrib. 08:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
7.  Support -- Schlurcher (talk) 13:43, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
8.  Support --Gestumblindi (talk) 01:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
9.  SupportAlachuckthebuck (talk) 16:35, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
10.  Support* Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:20, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
11.  Support--Bogusław Pab (talk) 11:01, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
12.  Support SWinxy (talk) 02:42, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
13.  Support Nardog (talk) 05:04, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
14.  Support --GPSLeo (talk) 18:31, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
15.  Support. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 00:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
16.  Support Bidgee (talk) 18:37, 14 February 2024 (UTC)