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File:Common kestrel falco tinnunculus.jpg, delisted[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 6 Mar 2011 at 10:37:18
Common Kestrel

  •  Info The originally uploaded picture has obviously been greatly modified, and not particularly well. I suspect that the whole background has been replaced - the perch looks square edged and manmade, what were the original surroundings?. Ok, we have no particular problem with edited images if it is well done, and disclosed, but here it is neither. For instance the tips of the tail feathers should be white and rounded, this bird has had them snipped off - I expect the original had a much lighter coloured background at this point, and in cutting out the bird from the background, they were lost with the background. On the original upload there are a couple of white specs in this area which were probably part of those feathers. There are editing artifacts all the way around the outline of the bird. (NB I am not complaining about the subsequent editing for the FP nomination) --Tony Wills (talk) 10:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Original nomination)

Examples to compare: File:Common-Kestrel.jpg, Off site example

I put an initial question on his talk page, no reply yet. Everything below the perch worries me, the background has a different texture (smooth) than above. No sign of the talons from the front toes appearing under the perch (what is that perch?). I think the photographer just cleaned up the image but wasn't aiming to submitt it to FP, if he would upload the original image we could maybe redo the edits. --Tony Wills (talk) 03:21, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

* Keep Still great. LeavXC (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe in delisting FP images that were up to the standard at the time (others disagree ;-), but in this case it is a recently promoted image that clearly failed what I thought was a standard here : edited images are fine so long as the editing is disclosed and not apparent (so I am not so much concerned with the quality of the photo, but the quality of the edits). --Tony Wills (talk) 21:52, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info Andreas has sent me an unedited version, the falcon is perched on top of a white sign, the white tail feather tips are very difficult to see against that background but I think that we can retrieve them, the talons on the front toes are hidden by the sign. I haven't yet seen the camera original file, so am not sure yet whether we can get a less compressed version (with fewer JPEG compression artifacts). --Tony Wills (talk) 20:02, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist As Tony and Nikopol. --Cephas (talk) 23:41, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist opposed when it was nominated. regards, PETER WEIS TALK 16:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info Andreas sent me the original and I have re-edited it to include the tail tips and eliminate the visible jpeg artifacts. I have adjusted levels slightly, but haven't increased saturation or adjusted the colours. The original background was fairly noisy, so I have smoothed that out with a gausian-blurr. Others may be able to do a better job, so I have uploaded a jpeg of the original too. (PS I love the sign in the original, it is as though the Kestrel is guarding the area, and directing you to read the sign :-)

File:Common_kestrel_falco_tinnunculus-original.jpg
re-edit --Tony Wills (talk) 20:28, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply] 


Confirmed results:
Result: 7 delist, 2 keep, 0 neutral => delisted. /George Chernilevsky talk 15:30, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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