Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/File:19-11-09-Alte-Nationalgalerie DSF4154.jpg

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File:19-11-09-Alte-Nationalgalerie DSF4154.jpg (delist)[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 24 Sep 2022 at 08:54:50
Dome of the Alte Nationalgalerie, Berlin, Germany.

  •  Info There is a better FP from the dome of the Alte Nationalgalerie.

(Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:19-11-09-Alte-Nationalgalerie DSF4154.jpg)

  •  Delist -- IamMM (talk) 08:54, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist --A.Savin 10:19, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delist -- George Chernilevsky talk 10:29, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep and strongly request close. A.Savin on the new image nomination suggested "Delist and replace" but this procedure is commonly confused with the procedure on English Wikipedia FP where there can typically only be one FP of a given photo, and the image is "replaced" in the article. On Commons, the rule for "delist and replace" is strictly for when an existing image has been reworked/improved, and explicitly not for this situation where someone has come along and taken a new photo. This image here was only taken and nominated a few years ago and got enthusiastic support from 18 reviewers. Both images are quite different in terms of crop and exposure, with the new one arguably over-exposed and this one under-exposed. On Commons we can have several FPs of the same view/subject and we generally only delist an image if it now falls way short of the standard we'd expect today, and I suggest that nominating images for delist that got a solid 18 supports three years ago is looking at the wrong end of the quality spectrum. -- Colin (talk) 14:08, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Colin: Not sure about closing it, seems more debatable. Regardless of the image that was recently featured, this image doesn't meet the FP criteria IMO. The number of votes is a tricky issue and affected by the situation for example this image that I think is my best nom so far could not reach 10 votes. We've had other cases here that passed FPC with shaky consensus but won POTY, and we've had images with +30 votes that didn't find success there. -- IamMM (talk) 18:47, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Well all the voting is a bit random at times, but really, I think this one got nominated "because we now have a better one", which isn't valid reason to delist on Commons. Wouldn't you agree? -- Colin (talk) 21:01, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree with this. My understanding of A. Savin's comment is that the difference in quality is significant enough to justify this image not deserving of FP status. I consider myself a low-expectation voter, but I can't really see it as FP in this case. The marble columns on the sides and the statues between the smaller circles are completely missing and as an architectural that is clearly color-oriented, it looks too dark. If we consider the dome itself as the subject, showing sky blue instead of turquoise is still unpleasant for an image that is supposed to be one of the best. -- IamMM (talk) 22:22, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]