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File:Riverside Trek Fest 2014 (14349292930).jpg, not featured[edit]

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Gowron and Martok at Trek Fest 2014
  •  Info created by IowaPipe (on Flickr) - uploaded by Miyagawa - nominated by Miyagawa -- Miyagawa (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- What more could you want than two Star Trek actors who dress up as their characters some fifteen years after their show ended! Anyway, it is Robert O'Reilly as Gowron throwing sweets to the kids, while J.G. Hertzler stands behind him. You'll note that while Hertzler's make-up really matches the show, O'Reilly wears his quite lighter than on television. Miyagawa (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Legal oppose I believe the appearance of Klingons generally, to say nothing of specific characters, is covered by Paramount's copyrights for Star Trek, and thus this cannot be a free image. Daniel Case (talk) 18:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's the first I've ever heard about a make-up design being copyrighted. But if that was the case, then wouldn't every cosplay image also be copyrighted? Paramount has the copyright to the Klingon language, but I think it ends there. Miyagawa (talk) 17:00, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
As a matter of fact, yes, copyright extends to the costumes worn in the movies and show (Paramount paid people to design them for that purpose, after all). And photographs whose primary subject is people in costumes and/or masks depicting characters in a copyrighted work, where such costunes were created for the work and are not either representations of historical or current attire or otherwise commonly worn for any purpose other than depicting those characters or others like them, regardless of context (i.e., if the photo were of Rainn Wilson and John Krasinski wearing dress shirts, slacks and ties passing out candy at a parade, this wouldn't be an issue), then they cannot be free images. At least that's how I read COM:COSTUME. The fact in this case, the two cosplayers are themselves the actors who played the characters in question makes this even more clearly a third-party copyright situation and thus ineligible for Commons.

Please remember when looking at images on Flickr that very few users over there are the masters of copyright law as applied to still images that we are over here. You can't take their word that it's CC. Daniel Case (talk) 17:04, 8 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Daniel, would you please clarify, are you a lawyer? You haven't stated either that you are or aren't, and you seem to be giving advice on interpretation of a somewhat murky area of law. - Jmabel ! talk 03:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Am waiting for the legal question to be solved. --Tremonist (talk) 14:53, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose --What more would I expect? Well, let me guess… may be a red bucket with yellow dots? Or may be a higher f-number which would leave the face of the second character in focus too? Or may be even a closer shot of the main character at the very moment he throws the candys? But that last one might be based on too high expectations. Sting (talk) 23:43, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 1 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /Yann (talk) 22:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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