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This video was made in support of a newspaper in Colombia called "El Tiempo" and not supported by any political organization. --The Photographer (talk) 14:52, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I´m sorry, I forgot, these kind of newspapers and media companies (with this backgrund ownership) are completely unpolitical and striktly neutral, like El Universal for example. --Hubertl 15:24, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
How you can read on El Universal, it was purchased by the Venezuela government[1]. I did not like your tone when responding me, however, i invite you to not take it personally. --The Photographer (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question I did take a look. The Photographer for what country this is importnant ? Venezuela, Colombia... ? Hubertl is marking propaganda, for who to whom ? All i get it made Venezuela in this video as bad country and in need for more american dollars. Techinally video is OK, now problem is one perhaps want it in category Venezuela economy while other want it in CIA crayons... and made in Colombia ? --Mile (talk) 16:59, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your question Mile. Locally in Venezuela there is no free press, perhaps with the exception of the "El Nacional", severals newspaper with almost 100 years like "El Universal" have been bought or drowned economically by Venezuela government.[2] And this video is important because shows a problem that currently happening in my country (Venezuela), shortage is only a problem of many generated as a result of a corrupt and dictatorial government.[3] Today Beria was at the airport with a small package of medicines to send someone who will get this to my family in Venezuela, thousands of people have died as a result of the shortage of medicine and food, this video has more than one year and the situation has worsened and that is the raison why news is not leaving the country and other countries newspapers are trying to report the situation (such "El Tiempo" or CIA? I don't think so [4]), Social networks and few online media (El Nacional) are only way to be informed that what is happening, war reporters are not entering Venezuela.[5] People are dying en masse by this problem, yesterday near my house in Margarita, Venezuela was sacked a garbage truck [6] and massive theft (looting spree) unfit for human consumption things, has become a common practice due to lack of food.[7] This is not a personal situation, it is something that is happening in the whole country. Btw I'm not the CIA or whatever WMF worker --The Photographer (talk) 18:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It´´s ok, when you defend your one-sided view of Venezuala - which is in fact your very personal view, nourished by your own political, obviously a very right-liberal position. But FP and Wikipedia in its whole is definitly not the place for. --Hubertl 19:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My grandfather was the founder of the Communist Party of Venezuela and my father participated in Left-wing protests and off course it's the current line used by Venezuela gouverment side, however, I do not belong to any political position, imho the politics has been generated in Venezuela to separate the population and to radicalize botho sides an thus keep people distracted in discussions as you try to build here. Although beyond any political color there is a reality and a macabre entertainment like people lines to buy food.([8]) --The Photographer (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose As important as it may be, it is by no means outstanding in quality or originality. And thats the only aspect we are judging here! Would granting the FP star to this video help to fight poverty? Not at all. We judge photographical work on FP, we do not support any social or political movement by featuring their promos, regardless of their justification or urgency. --Kreuzschnabel 19:23, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a political movement due this video does not explain opinions or political philosophies because it's about the situation in Venezuela and remembering that problems have no a political color --The Photographer (talk) 19:32, 10 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Much of what is in this video has reliable sources to back up this logic (see shortages in Venezuela). El Tiempo is also one of the more respected newspapers in Colombia. The video even states that the government has good intentions but things didn't go as planned, so I'm confused on how this material is seen as non-neutral. I am not sure about what classifies how a video is granted an FP star, but this video is pretty neutral by Venezuelan standards.--ZiaLater (talk) 04:50, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Question - Is there any rule that videos on Commons have to have a neutral point of view? Neutral point of view is a rule on Wikipedia, but not, for example, on Wikivoyage. I didn't realize there were any rules about the opinions expressed on Commons videos. For what it's worth, it's crystal clear to me that pure laissez-faire capitalism, unfettered by regulations and social welfare programs, let alone the oligopolism or monopolism that tends to turn into, is not the solution to any country's problems. But that doesn't mean that this video is not accurate in explaining Venezuela's problems - or, maybe more relevant, fair (which happens to be the Wikivoyage standard; see voy:Be fair). It's also a very clear explanation and kept this watcher's attention. I will vote to support a feature for this video unless someone can point to any Commons rule or guideline requiring a neutral point of view. I'll also point out that if we are truly bound by a neutral point of view, any videos that present any left-wing world view you or I may agree with would also be off-limits. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:46, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support - Thank you. That policy is very clear. Like you, I certainly found this fast-paced, but the Spanish is very clearly enunciated and I was able to read the subtitles, although I agree that perhaps some time should have been taken in places. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I tried watching it twice and both times I gave up after about 1 minute. It's just too fast paced for my taste, I'm really struggling to keep up with the subtitles. --El Grafo (talk) 21:16, 11 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I feel like I can support this as well. It's a subject that's been overlooked and the video has some fairly good explanations. Also, for those of you having difficulty with the subtitles, try watching without audio. It may defeat some of the purpose but it helped somewhat.--ZiaLater (talk) 06:05, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Was wondering; videos are low here, and straightly techinally its OK. --Mile (talk) 06:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Freshwater Economics for Dummies, basically. Daniel Case (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Verde78 (talk) 10:32, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support 😄 ArionEstar 😜 (talk) 21:33, 13 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support I am not sure how this is supposed to be judged. The technical quality is great by YouTube video standards, but low by international mass market video standards. This video is provided by El Tiempo, described in its Wikipedia article as the most significant newspaper in its country, Columbia. Regardless of any bias that this video may carry, I think that because it comes from a major newspaper, it is significant as a contemporary media artifact of what the most established news media in Columbia is saying at this time. Is this judging process supposed to be only about technical quality, or is judgment on the basis of cultural significance an overriding factor? I might change my vote if I am not judging according to the customs here. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 8 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /Laitche (talk) 19:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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