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File:Independence museum (Copy).jpg, not featured[edit]

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Museum of Independence situated in Dhaka, Bangladesh depicts the struggle for independence of Bangladesh.
  •  Comment This is a funny reaon to oppose: "vignetting is not corrected"; do you mean that vignetting is a "mistake" that must be corrected? If yes, in which manual of photography did you find such a weird weird argumentation? Vignetting is one of the creative tools that advanced and professional photographers can use to give a special and particular atmosphere to a photograph, especially a kind of photograph ike the one we see here: it is used to focus the viewer's eye into the center of the composition, where something important is seen by the photographer. It is a creative choice, not a mistake. Or you mean the photographer was so careless not to notice the heay vignetting and he forgot to correct it? Please correct and review your comment into something like "I dont like vignetting". At least will be seen as your personal Point of View and not an non-obeyed imaginative rule which is not existing. Paolobon140 (talk) 17:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you take a look at the Guidelines for QI, VI or FP photos here on commons, you will find that vignetting is generally discouraged here per consensus. Commons has a style of it's own where artistic renditions of photos are mostly not accepted, believe me: been there, done that, got the T-shirt. For fanciful, artistic photos with added image enhancements, you should seek out another forum. --Cart (talk) 18:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not that good in English, but in those guidelines i cannot find what you say; its wiritten about "inappropriate vignetting" (with some examples); and about stiching different photos (with some examples); its also written about old photos with some defects. But i cannot find anythng which says that "vignetting is generally discouraged here per consensus". Maybe i cannot see it?Paolobon140 (talk) 18:18, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • The rules in the guidelines are the result of consensus and "inappropriate vignetting" can be interpreted to mean that it is discouraged. This means that a user can vote 'oppose' on an image based on vignetting being present in it. It is within the rules to do so if anyone whish. --Cart (talk) 18:47, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree. I don't like vignetting in general, as I don't like chromatic aberrations or underexposed photographs. I have no doubt some photographers will consider all these problems as "creative" features, but that's not my opinion. Chromatic aberrations come from technical defects, and modern equipment like basic softwares are very helpful to correct those instantly. Same for the vignetting, on Lightroom for example you just have to click on one button and your image will look immediately much better (in my opinion). I don't know what was the purpose here, intentional or non-intentional. I mentioned this problem first in a comment 3 days ago, and since no reaction came, I opposed yesterday for this reason. Not sure I would have opposed otherwise, sometimes removing the vignetting change radically the appearance of a picture. So I'd have liked to consider the new version before judging. But now it seems to be more a negligence (to my eyes) and I don't like the aspect on an aesthetic level. I rarely appreciate pictures with vignetting, probably our tastes differ (I'm 40 years old and have been educated with this possibility of improvement thanks to numeric photography). The dark corners are like a visual pollution, unfortunately produced by the limitation of all cameras unable to adapt to wide angle lenses. That's like a play of theater centered on the middle, while I prefer a vision of free space, not limited at the sides. In the case the effect was intentional, I regret for me this looks too much like a "dark box", closed and unappealing -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:37, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • For me, the vignetting is not a problem in this particular photo since it is the natural consequence of having one single main light source in the room, my oppose is based on other factors. Natural vignetting has it's place in FPs too (Ex 1, Ex 2, Ex 3, Ex 4. I was only commenting that there are those who don't see it this way (like Basile) and they are entitled to oppose on those grounds. --Cart (talk) 10:56, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Only this one (Ex 4) is ok for me (but not sure there's vignetting). I dislike the 3 others, and the so-called "creative" examples on Wikipedia too. "Vignetting is often an unintended and undesired effect caused by camera settings or lens limitations". That's why I find clever to fix it. Graphic designer is a different job. Here the effect doesn't seem natural, and I believe this is rather caused by the lens (optical vignetting). But certainly both (also single central source of light) -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:36, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most of Salgado's photgraph are vignetted and wouldnt be consdered as featured pictures then?. Most of photographers choose vignetting as a creative choice. I agree it may happen an amatorial photographer cannot control vignetting but usually those kind of photographers are not able to set a camera in a manual mode, they usually shoot full automtic. This picture up here is evidently taked by a very skilled photographer and telling him that his vignetting "was not fixed" sounds more like an insult to a clearly skilled photographer. I myself usualy choose to vignette in certain cases by choosing a very open aperture (around f/2 with short lenses on a full frame sensor to give a natural vignetting and add a kind of gloomy atmosphere. I even had posted one of those photos here time ago, and vignetting was a very intentional part of the creative path- That is why i strongly disagree when i read that vignetting might be considered as a mistake. Photogaphy is a kind of art, and printers have been working decades to fnd the right way to vignette when needed. Even Caravaggio was vignetting his paintings to give depth tho his works and focus on parts of the painting. Paolobon140 (talk) 15:07, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 7 support, 5 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /--Cart (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]