Commons:Bots/Requests/SanbornMapBot

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Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought: To upload, categorize, rename, provide with a generated index Sanborn Fire Insurance Maps downloaded from the Library of Congress and other places (seldomly).

Automatic or manually assisted: manual

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): intermittently for a few weeks

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 100 when uploading

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N

Programming language(s): perl

Nowakki (talk) 09:34, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

• Please make test run. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:40, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  i have already uploaded 80,000 files through my main account in the last few days, unaware of this prior authorization requirement. Nowakki (talk) 16:28, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  here is a proposal for the index which i would add to the category page of a town. this category would then have subcategories for the (year, volume) combo of a map too. But the index should suffice to access all the plates.

  User:Nowakki/sanborn test

  the code to add the index is not yet written. i will add comments above and below the generated content to allow automatic edits to easily be undone.

  For the moment i just need to upload the images. I can ask for additional permissions when i have the code ready.

  Additional permissions will almost certainly also include the renaming of old files that were uploaded by somebody else with a bad naming scheme.

  In any case, all accesses of the bot will be restricted to files and categories that start with "Sanborn Fire Insurance Map From". In other words, it may make more sense to just look at the end result as this is really just an upload job for new content with some alteration to old content in the same "namespace". Nowakki (talk) 16:38, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko: does this request for a test run still stand now or not? Nowakki (talk) 15:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

  Based on your uploads: will be good idea to put content of file name into description, not just plate number; please enclose description in language tag. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 16:12, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

  Ok, i am now using the in the description the same string as in the filename (File:ALLTHIS.jpg) with a language tag. I will delay editing existing pages in case something else comes up. Nowakki (talk) 05:01, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko: So what is the ruling here? Can i run the bot or not? If yes, can you transfer the auto patrol rights from my main to the bot account? Or do i have to make a separate request for that? I need that to get rid of the rate limit. Nowakki (talk) 03:55, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  Please make test run. Bot could operate on full speed after approval, but it's necessary to verify that its uploads are fine. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:39, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

  This is an ongoing process. Functionality is continuously added. However uploads can proceed now. There are now a few more uploads for you to verify.

  I will then finalize the code and bring a few example towns to the intended end state, so you can approve of the old file rename and the generated index features when the time comes. SanbornMapBot (talk) 11:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Description is still not wrapped in language tag ({{en|<description>}}). --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:02, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

  Damn. It is fixed now. Some more images uploaded. SanbornMapBot (talk) 02:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  Looks OK for me. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

  can you transfer the autopatrol right from my main account to the bot? SanbornMapBot (talk) 02:20, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

   Done. But please perform only test uploads until this request approval. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:45, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I have today recategorized and supplied with a {{rename tag all map files from Wyoming (954 files). There are 218,807 files still to be renamed.

  As it stands the newly renamed files have a different structure, with different metadata, as provided by the original uploader, from all the plates that i uploaded.

  perhaps it would be a good idea to include at least one wiki-link with the newly uploaded files and behind that wikilink would be a page that explains everything about the files in general. SanbornMapBot (talk) 17:48, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

  A request to rename 200,000 files found no support after a recent poll failed.

  I am planning to add 500,000 redirects to commons and build an alternative tree of categories to

  hold the redirects instead. I am requesting permission to let the bot do that.

  To make this possible, all names in this tree will be of the form "Sanborn Fire Insurance Map of"

  instead of "Sanborn Fire Insurance Map from".

  An advertisement/notification for the "fixed and consistent with Sanborn original indexing practice" filenames will be placed in c:Category:Sanborn maps of the United States by state and in each of the 50 state categories, because 50 is not a big number.That should be sufficient for it to get noticed by anyone involved enough (i.e. using the files often) to benefit from the fix. Nowakki (talk) 16:27, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko I believe the request in the parent comment needs approval. Is there something you can do? Thanks. Nowakki (talk) 17:51, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

  What is usage statistics for these files? If absolute majority of them are not used, I think they should be renamed without leaving redirect. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:56, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

  @EugeneZelenko I made a mistake during upload. a few thousand files were uploaded with a different naming scheme from the others. The volume and the year in the filename switched places. Since these files are barely a week old, they should be renamed without leaving redirects. I request permission to take care of the problem. Nowakki (talk) 09:45, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

  Please make test run. Sure, it's fine to rename without leaving redirect in such circumstances. --EugeneZelenko (talk) 15:44, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you. I will start working on that.

  Feel free to comment on the other request above.

  Answers like: "I don't know", "I am not authorized", "I'd rather not" are total acceptable. I am an adult and will find ways to deal with it. Nowakki (talk) 13:42, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

• Have you read Commons:Bots and will you follow it? Multichill (talk) 17:44, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

  yes Nowakki (talk) 15:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

  @Nowakki: are you sure? Also the part "In particular, bot operators should not use a bot account to respond to messages related to the bot."? Please don't use your bot account in conversations. Multichill (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

  Not using the bot to talk anymore after having been told so yesterday. Nowakki (talk) 12:11, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

• Please do not use a bot account for manual edits, and especially not for discussions. We discuss with bot operators, not with bot accounts. --Krd 12:04, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

• @Nowakki: Please summarise: Have all mentioned issues been addressed? Is this ready to run? --Krd 14:33, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

  I have abandoned further attempts to deal with the incompetence of other people in this matter. In a properly run organization, heads would have rolled and people would have a reason to attempt not to fail so badly. To quote Carl Sagan: In order to upload Sanborn maps to commons, you first have to fix the bugs and fix the procedures and retrain the people. Nowakki (talk) 14:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Withdrawn. --Krd 16:44, 7 February 2024 (UTC)