Commons:Bots/Requests/JeffGBot 4

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JeffGBot (talk · contribs) 4

Operator: Jeff G. (talk · contributions · Statistics · Recent activity · block log · User rights log · uploads · Global account information)

Bot's tasks for which permission is being sought:

  • COM:AWB, COM:JWB, COM:VFC, Cat-a-lot, etc. to do mundane non-controversial maintenance things at higher speeds than humans are expected to perform, while not clogging up recent changes.

Automatic or manually assisted: Manually assisted or automatic

Edit type (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): One time runs at the discretion of the operator

Maximum edit rate (e.g. edits per minute): 15 edits per minute for semiautomatic AWB and JWB, really fast for automatic VFC or Cat-a-lot

Bot flag requested: (Y/N): N (already have it)

Programming language(s): AWB, JWB, VFC, Cat-a-lot, etc.

  — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:55, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

  • Open-ended broad bot approval is rarely given to inexperienced bot operators; majority of what you have described is performed on primary user accounts daily without the use of a bot. I am hesitant to support any broad bot discussion, especially when it's task is based on the operator's opinion of what they believe is "non-controversial". Do you have a specific task to request permission for or not? All the best, ~riley (talk) 03:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@~riley: Larger tasks (>999 edits) for VFC, maintaining my own uploads, Flickr2Commons uploads, mass spelling changes, removal of NOTOC magic word from filespace, piping realname in author field at author request, etc. I have done many of these things (except the >999 edits and NOTOC) with my main account. Further guidance as to what the limits are for each type of account and software package would be helpful. I have defaulted JeffGBot to making all edits minor.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:13, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think this request sould be more specific. NOTOC is for example already removed from file namespace and my bot takes care of the rest including checking of new uploads. So this does not convince me. --Schlurcher (talk) 08:29, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Clerking Category:Checkuser requests to be listed? Fulfilling Commons:Bots/Work requests?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 00:47, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Already is clerked by a bot however rarely needed. Work requests are generally handled on primary accounts and if they require the extent of an account with a bot flag, a new BRFA is opened up. ~riley (talk) 02:07, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
How about null-edits?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:16, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Null edits don't need the bot approval since it does not show up in anyone's watchlist, and all the changes applied are MediaWiki-internal. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 03:19, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yet they are subject to speed limits. :(   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:26, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You're requesting 15 edits per minute or "really fast with VFC" (which can't be controlled anyways) for your bot, I don't see any issue with you running 15 edits per minute or VFC speed on your main account which people do on a daily basis. I rather that than open-ended approval for a bot. ~riley (talk) 03:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Zhuyifei1999: Am I reading correctly that my bot account can make null edits at full speed right now with AWB, JWB, or pywikipediabot's touch?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 01:19, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Assumption the "full speed" follows mw:API:Etiquette#Request_limit, yes. --Zhuyifei1999 (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Open-ended single action tasks should be performed on main accounts (maybe with software support). There is no need for a bot flag. It might acctually be counter effective, as these single action tasks are not checked by other users. This request should be re-opened/modified to repetitive well-defined tasks. --Schlurcher (talk) 05:55, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please help me understand which templates must be substed. --Schlurcher (talk) 04:56, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Schlurcher: There are 212 of them which transclude {{Must be substituted}} in their descriptions and are therefore listed here, but some of them may not be transcluded at present.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 00:07, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Both of your last two examples are perfectly fine to be addressed with separate bot requests. Both need also some work and further discussion to be done properly. Sometimes it is sensible (for example in a talk namespace) to not subset a template that should be subsetted. The discussion on COM:BR#PD-US-defective notice already shows that a lot more aspects need to be taken into account to do it right. I would be happy to review them once you feel ready. This omnibus request here is however not helpful for the project and should be closed. --Schlurcher (talk) 05:31, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Schlurcher: Thank you. I am holding off on the defective notice issue pending the resolution of COM:BR#PD-US-defective notice.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:39, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 I withdraw my permission request.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:39, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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