Category talk:Maurice of Nassau

Renaming category

Hi! I'm trying here to move this category to another category "Maurice, Prince of Orange". The reason I'm doing this is that because there was a son of Duke William of Nassau who was named Maurice and has available media to categorize. Giving this, it feels better to call this Duke's son "Maurice of Nassau", and at the same time clarify the title of Prince Maurice of Orange. The category Maurice of Nassau applied to the prince of Orange was already wrong, because he was known as "of Orange-Nassau", giving his family line. It's also a better way to distinguish these two personalities. So, what I intend to, once more, is to move all files and categories of this category "Maurice of Nassau" to "Maurice, Prince of Orange", and leave it empty for the files related to Duke William's son (there's already one available). Greetings, Mhmrodrigues (talk) 19:10, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear Mhmrodrigues, You are not trying to move this category, you have completed the move already. That is not what I call consultation and cooperation. You have been around here for almost ten years. You still don't seem to grasp what cooperation means. You renamed and changed dozens of categories, just to have one (1) file named in a category that was already taken. And you are continuing to do so with other categories. Your renaming of categories is troublesome. Vysotsky (talk) 23:23, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

@Vysotsky: Hi! I'm sorry, but it didn't seem right just stop the renaming and leave it incomplete, with some files in a destination which wasn't yet created, beside the fact that those files would be hard to reach at another time. Why do you think my renaming is troublesome? It's because of the new name I give, or the way I move files? I agree it would be more easier to move files with a different way of recategorizing (like, for example, have the option of selecting all files at once for a new category). However, if the problem is the name, would you keep "Maurice of Nassau", when you have already another members of the Orange-Nassau family categorized as "Philip William, Prince of Orange", "Frederick Henry, Prince of Orange" or "William II, Prince of Orange", and Maurice shared the exact same titles as these persons? It's just a way of creating patterns and "groups" (Princes of Orange, Princes of Nassau-x...) inside a family with so many members with identical names. It is more easy to recognize immediately Maurice, Prince of Orange, if his noble title is already on the category name. Even more in a family in which there were at least two Maurices (if not more). With females, when there are two of them with the exact same name, they'll become more recognizable when searching inside the category if a title owned by them is given right in the name of the category. That's what I did with the two "Amalias of Nassau-Dietz" you saw in the category. If it because of the language/anglicization, I've had problems like those before, and I was told that we should be more careful specifically with persons who were born/lived past 1900, because of the birth certificates: in the case of "Sofia of Nassau", who lived past 1900, I just recategorized according to English Wikipedia, "Sophia of Nassau". Greetings, Mhmrodrigues (talk) 23:51, 2 May 2020 (UTC)