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Hi Vanisaac,
Many thanks for looking into this file. I saw your query about tartans and thought your idea to use stroke-dasharray and mask fascinating. I wondered if shading the weave could be make it clearer, but couldn't get the thumbnail working, and noticed that your tartan image was zoomed out quite far (so the weave wouldn't be visible anyway) and thus gave up. However, if you think shading is useful, please let me know and we can look into it again.
Cheers,
cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 21:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Cmglee: Yeah, I was interested to see what you had come up with, and have definitely been thinking about how to incorporate that idea. Without trying it yet, I think I can probably recycle the mask pattern for at least half the thread texture.
- What this has really been working up to however, is a userscript that automatically generates a tartan image from the sett pattern - hopefully taken from a template or infobox. Not sure if it can just be generated on the fly, or if it would need to get uploaded. The big issue with texturing is that most complete tartan patterns mirrored through both pivots are around 300-400 threads in total, so you either have to use a huge image, not be able to show the whole tartan pattern, or lose the thread texture to small size. But I'm still working on this and don't expect it to be finished any time soon, so there's lots of room for experimenting. You can download my current code (make sure to view the code and copy it directly instead of saving the page) which is currently encased in an HTML page with just a simple submit button to invoke the script for right now. It uses the color values from the w:en:template:Infobox tartan documentation, although you can certainly change the color values however you'd like, and it outputs a window with pretty much the bare SVG.
- You'll notice there's a line
<g transform=\"scale(1 1)\">\n
that you can use to zoom in on the image -scale(3 3)
would zoom 300%, for example. But please feel free to tinker. When I hit on something, I'm updating at w:en:User:Vanisaac/scripts/TartanBuilder. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 23:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Vanisaac. I think it's possible to generate graphics on the fly, as Template:SVG Chart and EasyTimeline do that. You'll probably need buy-in from each Wikipedia to allow it, though. Creating an SVG to upload is likely less bureaucratic. An example is Slashme's Parliament diagram tool.
- I'm unfamilar with tartans so don't know how they are usually presented, but how about having an image showing a zoomed-out view similar to File:SVG_Black_Watch_Tartan_test_file.svg with a magnified inset showing a unit cell with thread-shading?
- Anyway, great work so far. Here's a barnstar for you! cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 23:42, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- So all tartans are woven in fundamentally the same way: the 2-over, 2-under twill pattern. So if you were on a page like w:en:tartan and talking about tartan weaving, something like that shading system would be incredibly helpful. If you were instead looking at the actual pattern of the tartan, then conveying the overall pattern would be significantly more important. The thing is that most tartans have a symmetrical pattern to them. You start on the edge with a stripe of one color called a pivot, then proceed through to the last stripe of the sett (the pattern description). From there, instead of going directly back to the beginning, you instead work your way backwards through the sett to the first stripe, then work your way forward and backward until you finish the weave out to the end of the material. However, there are several tartans that break that general rule - the Buchanan tartan being a notable example - where they will go through the sett and immediately start over at the beginning, or even use a different color for one of the (usually small) stripes when going through the sett in each direction. So understanding a particular tartan is more than just getting the full sett included, you need to pivot it all the way back to the beginning of the sett. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 19:26, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining. As you've clarified that the weave is basically the same for all tartans, I take back my suggestion of having an inset. Nevertheless, the description in your paragraph is fascinating. If there isn't already an illustration for it, I volunteer to illustrate what you have described for a typical and the Buchanan tartan. Do let me know. Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 23:40, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- So all tartans are woven in fundamentally the same way: the 2-over, 2-under twill pattern. So if you were on a page like w:en:tartan and talking about tartan weaving, something like that shading system would be incredibly helpful. If you were instead looking at the actual pattern of the tartan, then conveying the overall pattern would be significantly more important. The thing is that most tartans have a symmetrical pattern to them. You start on the edge with a stripe of one color called a pivot, then proceed through to the last stripe of the sett (the pattern description). From there, instead of going directly back to the beginning, you instead work your way backwards through the sett to the first stripe, then work your way forward and backward until you finish the weave out to the end of the material. However, there are several tartans that break that general rule - the Buchanan tartan being a notable example - where they will go through the sett and immediately start over at the beginning, or even use a different color for one of the (usually small) stripes when going through the sett in each direction. So understanding a particular tartan is more than just getting the full sett included, you need to pivot it all the way back to the beginning of the sett. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 19:26, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- I've actually already created and uploaded two tartans with the web version of this tool at File:Tartan Black Watch b24k4b4k4b4k20g24k6g24k20b22k4b4.svg and File:Tartan Buchanan +b18g46k6b18k6y40k6y40k6b18k6r40w6r40k6b18k6g46.svg. You'll notice the "+" in the sett pattern for the Buchanan tartan, which instructs the script to process it as an asymmetrical tartan, while the Black Watch is unmarked as a regular symmetrical tartan pattern. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 01:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, yes. What I mean is to have an image with two highly magnified views showing a typical tartan with the "triangular wave" progression and a Buchanan one with "sawtooth wave" progression, each with threads shaded for clarity. Good notation to define tartans. Is that a standard normally used? Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 02:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, a tartan's pattern is specified with a "sett", which is a letter or letters denoting the color and a number for the thread count. It normally has spaces after each number, but it was easier to parse in my algorithm by eliminating the spaces, so that's what I chose for my normalizing function. You can also have different tartans with the same clan name, so the sett is a good unique identifier for the images. The plus for an asymmetric tartan is not a standard - those are normally just identified with a parenthetical. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 04:39, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Great use of stroke-dasharray and mask to create tartan, and attempt to create a tartan builder tool! cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 23:45, 18 July 2020 (UTC) |
Kaktovik
[edit]Thanks for these! I've used them in the article.
Kwamikagami (talk) 03:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
@Kwamikagami: I know! I tried to put them in the table of values and ran into an edit conflict because you did it underneath me. I caught a couple of "<" you missed converting to the 10 digit. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 03:47, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I should've let you do that, since you went to the trouble of creating them. Do you want to finish the table? The only reason I didn't complete it was that I didn't have graphic subs for the rest. Kwamikagami (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Kwamikagami: No, please feel free to get the table in the shape you'd like. I have no qualms about others using the tools I create, and I am getting close to heading for bed anyway and going in to several busy days, so you could very well be in to next week before I got around to it. I really only had converting the existing table to the images on my to-do list with this. I'm going to fix the vertical placement of the zero digit and sign off for the evening. Best of luck! VanIsaac (en.wiki) 03:55, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I adjusted the 0 a bit to make it more rounded, and the others all look great. If I can figure out how to import them into a font, I'll have one to distribute when Unicode approves them. Kwamikagami (talk) 04:49, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- You might want to investigate the Laser Iñupiaq and Laser Yukon fonts. I'm pretty sure that's what that document was written with, and they would have those glyphs with their full geometry intact. If you can get permission, they would just need to be mapped to the new SMP code points at U+1D2C0..U+1D2D3 from their current private use mapping. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 14:43, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- Those fonts date back to 1997, but if you check their site on Wayback you can see that they were crude monowidth glyphs until they were replaced with Barkley's designs in 2010. But one of them is the font used in MacLean's 2014 dictionary. Kwamikagami (talk) 21:58, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Tocharian anusvāra and virāma confused
[edit]Dear Vanisaac, some years ago, you uploaded a lot of Tocharian characters from TITUS[1]. However, TITUS has failed to represent virāma and anusvāra correctly, and by copying their images you imported their errors to Wikimedia Commons, whence they spread to various Wikipedias. The following images are concerned:
# | TITUS transcription and image | Your image | Problem | |
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1 | -n | [1] | This is actually naṃ, i.e. na plus anusvāra ṃ (not virāma!) above. | |
2 | -naṃ- | [2] | The image on TITUS shows na in the top left, ma in the bottom right, both connected by a virāma stroke, and a virāma dot (not anusvāra!) above the ma. In Tocharian this would be read as nam\•. You just removed the na from the image, leaving m\•. |
TITUS has scanned their images directly from Sander 1968[2], where in table 30, column u, you can see the original of image 1 in the row "Anusvara" (!) and the original of image 2 in the row "Virāma" (!). Examples for virāma writing with dots can be found on CEToM[3], e.g. in THT 330, where there is even a m\• in the centre of line a1. (In Tocharian, one would rather expect Fremdzeichen ma in virāma position, as in line a4, not normal ma. There is also virāma writing with two dots in Tocharian.)
Therefore, I would like you to correct your images by
– removing the na from your image 1 and correctly calling it "Tocharian anusvāra", and
– calling your image 2 an example for virāma.
Best wishes, --Flawed reality (talk) 01:51, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Flawed reality: by all means, feel free to implement whatever changes you deem necessary. These aren't my images in any sense; I just happened to find and upload them with the information from the source. Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and you obviously are better informed on this subject than I. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 04:30, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I only added a remark on the respective image pages and uploaded the image for anusvāra (ṃ) proper. That's all I can do for now. --Flawed reality (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
References
[edit]- ↑ Thesaurus Indogermanischer Text- und Sprachmaterialien (TITUS), The Tocharian "Alphabet" / Das tocharische "Alphabet". http://titus.fkidg1.uni-frankfurt.de/didact/idg/toch/tochbr.htm
- ↑ Lore Sander, Paläographisches zu den Sanskrithandschriften der Berliner Turfansammlung. Wiesbaden: Franz Steiner 1968.
- ↑ A Comprehensive Edition of Tocharian Manuscripts (CEToM), https://www.univie.ac.at/tocharian/
Question about size-specific SVG programming
[edit]CC @JoKalliauer: and @Glrx:
In July 2020, you asked me whether it's possible to make a thumbnail have difference appearance for different sizes.
I've just thought of a hack which misuses the bug http://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T20463 – if a cell of an SVG pattern is rendered smaller than one pixel, it is rendered as a solid colour, as in this example.
One could perhaps abuse this with an SVG mask to switch between different images.
Cheers,
cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 05:09, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
(uWFALLf
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I must be missing something, but I don't know how one could navigate a vessel over a waterfall? Useddenim (talk) 00:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC) Useddenim (talk) 00:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I would take that as fairly axiomatic. This was conceptually intended for places where there was otherwise navigable water both above and below a falls of some sort - en:Willamette Falls is an example. This all really started with a request for icons to support maps of things like the en:Patowmack Canal where the canal parallels a river through its non-navigable sections, and crosses from one side to the other, sometimes using stretches of navigable waterway, sometimes just a single pool. But we needed to make a three-way distinction between navigable canal sections, navigable natural watercourses, and non-navigable natural watercourses, and figured they could probably interact with river features in pretty much any way. I mean, how would you map an historic waterway where there was a portage at a falls? Maybe the gradient should fade above the falls from the navigable to unnavigable color? I'm not sure, but if you have ideas, I'd love to see it. VanIsaac (en.wiki) 04:14, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Vanisaac: How about the new
PORTAGE
icons? Which dashing look better? Useddenim (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)- Well, I uploaded a version of (
uWFALLg
) with the gradient to non-navigable above the falls. How do you think that works with your portage overlay? VanIsaac (en.wiki) 23:52, 26 April 2023 (UTC)- 👍 It certainly gives the impression of whitewater, although I think a bit of the effect is lost at 20px—perhaps it should lighten closer to the edges? Useddenim (talk) 00:30, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I uploaded a version of (
- @Vanisaac: How about the new
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