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Please stop being rude

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Please stop with personnal insults in my talk page. If you are really interested in contributing to QIC, you are welcome and may well start by reading carefully the quality images guidelines, concerning size and other things. If, on the contrary, you are only having fun in disrupting the work of others, then your case will be easily dealt with. -- Alvesgaspar 13:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Captain-tucker (talk) 16:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grand Bravo pour votre zèle. Avec des gars comme vous sur ce site, on préjuge négativement des contributions des autres, sans en avoir la moindre preuve...Exellent!! Continuez comme ça...--Toubabmaster (talk) 11:53, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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 fetchcomms 16:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removing info

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Uh, I'm rolling back all your recent edits because you've basically removed all the copyright info. If you have them deleted, please request that instead.  fetchcomms 16:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

English: I did the same on your most recent edits as well. Please do not remove these informations, especially license. I am afraid I really do not understand your reasoning here. Could please state why you are doing this ?
Français : J'ai fait de même sur vos dernières modifications. Veuillez ne pas retirer ces informations, en particulier celles sur les licences. J'ai bien peur de ne pas comprndre votre démarche. Pourriez-vous s'il vous-plaît expliquer les raisons de vos actions ?
Jean-Fred (talk) 22:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Jean-Fred (talk) 22:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
English: Last warning. Next time, short block just to make sure you realise we are talking to you.
Français : Dernier avertissement. La prochaine fois, ce sera blocage court pour être certain que vous comprenez qu'on vous parle.

Jean-Fred (talk) 08:25, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Toubabmaster!

Why did you remove twice the Category:Vehicles facing left? This is a boat and a boat is a kind of vehicle and it's facing left. So, where's your problem?

regards, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 06:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Salut Toubabmaster!

Premièrement: s.v.p pardonnez moi mon français si mal.

Aux images: D'abord vous avez téleversés quelques images à wikimedia commons et vous avez ajoutés quelques informations accompagnants à ces images. D'après vous avez essayés plusieurs fois d'éteindre ces informations. Normalement des utilisateurs comme moi continueront à remettre à zéro cettes extinctions d'information. Mais vous avez écrits à votre User page hier: Mes imports ne sont pas et n'ont jamais été ma propriété. Les licences ne peuvent donc pas etre conservées en l'état.

Donc: Si vous n'êtes pas le proprietaire de ces images ou des droits de publier les images, je crois ça vaut mieux d'annuler les images mêmes complètement.

Cordialement, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 08:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Bonjour

En effet, je souhaite la suppression des images que j'ai importées dans la mesure ou elles ne sont pas les miennes. C'est dans ce but que j'ai retiré des informations. J'en avais d'ailleurs parlé à User:Jean-Frédéric, sans succès. Je ne connait pas la procédure pour supprimer ces images. Peut-etre pourriez-vous m'aider? Merci --Toubabmaster (talk) 22:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Ok. Je crois que c'est possible d'annuler toutes vos photos, parce que la téléversion (upload) des images était un erreur, parce que vous - au moment de téleverser ces photos - ne saviez pas que vous n'avez pas les droits nécessaires aux images.

Donc, vous écriverez ici s.v.p. une liste des noms des photos; et moi, je vais questionner quelques compatriotes wikipédiens, comment le faire d'annuler (delete) ces photos.

A bientôt, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 16:10, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

En fait ça concerne toute mes imports.[1]. Ce n'est pas moi qui ai prit les photos. --Toubabmaster (talk) 00:48, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Salut Toubabmaster!

J'ai commencer de préparer toutes vos images au speedy delete. Je vais completer la liste successivement.

faits
begin old maps
end old maps

A bientôt, fcm. --Frank C. Müller (talk) 11:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

J'ai rajoutté le modele de suppression sur les autres photos. Merci pour votre aide. --Toubabmaster (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what is happening here, but please don't tag pictures of maps for copyvio when they are clearly over 100 years old. Wknight94 talk 13:51, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merci de dialoguer avant d'insister. Ces images n'ont pas été scanées par moi, donc les licences ne peuvent etres conservées. Rien a voir avec leur date de création. --Toubabmaster (talk) 13:53, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Next time I have to revert, you will be blocked. Wknight94 talk 13:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apprend a lire le français avant de faire n'importe quoi...vous etes également (avec moi) l'auteur d'une guerre d'édition. Qui va vous bloquer? --Toubabmaster (talk) 13:56, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pour les cartes anciennes, peu importe qui les a scannées; voir {{PD-scan}} ou {{PD-art}}. –Tryphon 14:37, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ben justement, c'est pas des licences qu'on peut voir sur ces images. La licence PD old doit tenir compte des droits liés a la numérisation. Vous pouvez bien sur inventer toutes sortes d'excuses pour ne pas admettre les torts du curieux administrateur qui bloque son contradicteur sans discussion (on ne qualifiera pas le message que l'on peut voir plus haut une tentative de discussion, hein). --Toubabmaster (talk) 23:28, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Non, il n'y a jamais de droits liés à la simple numérisation. {{PD-old}} indique simplement que l'image originale est dans le domaine publique à cause de son âge, et il est sous-entendu que la numérisation n'a pas apporté de nouveau copyright (comme indiqué sur {{PD-scan}}, ce tag est généralement utilisé pour les cas où il pourrait y avoir un doute, où certaines retouches on été effectuées par exemple, mais ne sont pas suffisament créative pour qu'il y ait copyright). Dans le cas qui nous occupe, je pense que {{PD-old}} est adéquat, mais vous pouvez utiliser {{PD-scan}} si vous préférez.
En tout cas, il n'y a pas de raison de demander la suppression rapide de ces images. Si vous pensez qu'il y a un réel problème (i.e. si mes explications ne vous ont pas convaincu), vous pouvez demander leur suppression de telle sorte que d'autres personnes puissent exprimer leur avis. –Tryphon 23:56, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merci de vos explications. Je conteste votre interprétation, mais je vous remercie de vos explications. Je suis tout de meme surpris de voir que les admins se permettent de reverter mes contributions sans me fournir d'explications. Est-ce que c'est a moi de faire l'effort de demander à Abigor les raisons qu'il l'on conduit a reverter mes contributions? En attendant, je vais naturellement reverter des contributions qui ne m'ont pas été expliqués. On peut m'accuser de mauvaise foi, encore faut-il faire l'effort de venir entammer un dialogue avec moi. PS: Je trouve scandaleuse l'attitude de la personne qui a bloqué mon compte, et je suis pas tellement surpris de voir que plus de trois jours après le blocage, je n'ai toujours pas été débloqué, malgré ce que l'on peut lire sur cette page. --Toubabmaster (talk) 13:11, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tous les temps sont indiqués pour le fuseau horaire de Greenwich (GMT), donc votre blocage expirera dans moins d'une heure (en été, il y a deux heures de décalage avec la France). Pour ce qui est de remettre les tags de suppression rapide, je ne peux que répéter que ça n'apportera rien de bon. Je vous recommande d'entamer une demande de suppression (une seule où vous pouvez lister tous les fichiers concernés, voir COM:MDR); c'est la procédure standard dans ce genre de cas, où tout le monde n'est pas d'accord avec la suppression. –Tryphon 13:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Me dire que tout le monde n'est pas d'accord je veux bien, mais quel est le problème? personne ne vient m'expliquer les raisons qui ont ammené un administrateur a reverter mes demandes de suppressions. Que l'on ne soit pas d'accord avec les droits liés a la licence des vieilles cartes, je peux le comprendre, en revanche j'ai beaucoup plus de mal avec les photos. A moins bien sur que l'on cherche a me pousser a la faute...Je ne desepère pas d'avoir un jour, une explication Au passage, je n'ai toujours pas été débloquer a cette heure. --Toubabmaster (talk) 14:06, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have undone the autoblock from this account. Try editing now. Wknight94 talk 14:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Je ne peux pas m'exprimer à la place d'Abigor, mais je crois que c'est cette discussion qui l'a fait douter de vos motivations. –Tryphon 14:18, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mes motivations font douter Abigor? C'est noté, mais en attendant j'estime avoir fait une demande en bonne et due forme. Je ne m'estime plus responsable de la présence de ces photos sur ce site. S'il existe des raisons valables a ces reverts (autres qu'une impression de doute) je suis a votre disposition. En attendant une explication solide et argumenté ne comptez pas sur moi pour effectuer de nouvelles demandes (dont je suis certain qu'on trouvera encore une excuse pour refuser ma demande). La responsabilité juridique de ces copyvios est a présent le soucis d'Abigor. Bonne continuation --Toubabmaster (talk) 14:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Wknight94 talk 13:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grand bravo a l'administrateur qui fait une guerre d'éditions et qui vient bloquer par la suite. L'ajout d'un modèle copivio sur les images est justifié car je n'ai pas moi meme réalisé les numérisation de ces images. Je demande la meme sanction (3 jours) a l'encontre de l'administrateur qui participe a une guerre d'édition et qui bloque sans chercher a comprendre quoi que ce soit. Je continurai donc a faire les ajouts qui me plaisent sur les images que j'ai importées. N'en déplaise a Mr Wknight. --Toubabmaster (talk) 14:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Sorry Mr Wknight, but i'm not the man who have Digitizing this map. You have to delete it. --Toubabmaster (talk) 14:12, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't matter. No one can claim copyright to an exact copy of a map that is 300 hundred years old. Wknight94 talk 14:15, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Be carrefull with the copyright status. You can't speak about PD-old because to keep this licence, the right must come from the personn who have Digitizing the maps. I think that peopole like you, who block, whitout undrestand after war edddit is not a good thing for this place. --Toubabmaster (talk) 14:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See my comment above. Simply scanning an image is not creative enough to create a new copyright. Only the copyright of the original author is relevant, and in the case of old maps, it has expired. So {{PD-scan}} would be the correct license. –Tryphon 14:41, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You know what happening in tree days. I will continue to put the copyvio template whithout explanation from Wknight94. --Toubabmaster (talk) 23:36, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't do that, it will only earn you another (longer) block. If you really think those images are copyright violations, the correct thing to do is opening a deletion request. But if your only issue is the rights associated with digitalization, I can already predict the outcome; as I tried to explain to you, the digitalization process involves no creativity, and is therefore not eligible for copyright. –Tryphon 00:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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How about some justification for the block, or should I just take it to noticeboard/problems. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 00:53, 25 August 2010 (UTC) Huib talk Abigor @ meta 07:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Une justification est trop vous demander? Vous avez choisit de ne pas répondre à mes messages sur votre page de discussion, et vous continuez a réfuser le dialogue en me bloquant sans autre forme de procès. Merci pour votre sens du dialogue. J'invite les lecteurs de cette page a consulter mes contributions pour chercher a comprendre les raisons de ce blocage, moi je n'ai rien compris. 15 jours ne devraient pas etre trop long...je dit donc a très bientot cher Abigor. --Toubabmaster (talk) 10:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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? It is possible to know why? You choose to not talk with me on Commons:Deletion requests/Toubabmaster. It is possible to know when this picture will be deleted? --Toubabmaster (talk) 18:09, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

why? because you keep adding copyvio tags.
Your images might never be deleted. If you go to the deletion request page you will see, that other people too think that you are the author of those photographs. I do not believe that none of the images you have uploaded are not yours.
Until very recently, you have never come up with reasonable reason why those images need to be deleted. Now why should your father want them deleted? Is there a good reason? Amada44  talk to me 19:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My father don't want to give his pictures. I do it because it was for aticle for french wiki, but father saw it and says me to delete them. Now, if you don't want to delete it, it's your choice, not mine. Maybe, if you talked me about your choice on the page Commons:Deletion requests/Toubabmaster, i never continue to keep adding copyvio tags. You prefer to say nothing and waiting for a new block. --Toubabmaster (talk) 22:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
look, I am not doing this to annoy you, all right? Its just that your story seems to be made up. If you release images into public domain, you can not undo that! Do you understand that? Also, why should your father not want those images released? (I still don't believe that its not you who did the photographs!) Give me a good reason!! And when you write it, try to not accuse me because that doesn't help. Amada44  talk to me 07:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You choose to don't belive me. I accuse you, because it's the truth. If you don't like that, please do your job whith respect for others. On commons, many pictures are deletd for copivio problems. Sometimes you choose to belive. And now you prefer to keep and block. I'm sure that block is here only for keeping the pictures, and you don't want to explain your choice whithout block. Thaks for everything, the copivio is your problem now, not mine. --Toubabmaster (talk) 10:52, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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