User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2018/April

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File:Jason_Flores-Williams_cropped-768x960.jpg

I am the one who originally uploaded this file to the Commons. It is almost the thirty day automatic deletion window for it, since it was claimed that the rights for the photo were not correctly released. I was told, however, that there was a thirty-nine day backlog for Commons:OTRS requests. If this is the case, can you prevent the auto-deletion of this file until a decision is made? I asked the person who had the rights to send an additional email giving a more explicit release of the rights for it, which they did, so it should be able to stay. However, I would like to avoid having it get deleted, and having to start from scratch. Thank you. --Hardindr (talk) 01:31, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

@Hardindr: I have not heard from anyone about this file since 5 March. Are you the person I was corresponding with? If you have any tickets other than Ticket:2018022610007667, please let me know.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 01:44, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I am not a member of Commons:OTRS and can't access OTRS requests so, no, I don't believe I am the person who you were corresponding with. I am the person who originally uploaded the file and I want to avoid it being auto deleted before a determination is made regarding whether or not the rights for it were probably released. --Hardindr (talk) 01:51, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Hardindr: Ok, the person you thought had the rights had to get in touch with the photographer, and neither of them have contacted me since 5 March. You may join the conversation by emailing permissions-commons@wikimedia.org and copying that person. Please add the following to the subject bar of the email message: [Ticket#: 2018022610007667] (including the brackets).   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:00, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I am going to ask the person to send another email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org with all of the relevant information. Please look out for it. Hopefully, that will solve the issue. --Hardindr (talk) 02:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: The person who owns the rights to the photo (the person depicted in it) has sent in an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org with all of the relevant information to release the rights. The ticket number was in the subject of the email, so you should be able to find it. Please let me know when it has been looked over. Thank you. --Hardindr (talk) 10:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
@Hardindr: I really wish you would either email us per the above or just let the process happen.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 12:33, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: I sent an email as you requested, to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org, with the ticket number in the subject line and the person who has the rights to the photo cc:ed. --Hardindr (talk) 00:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
@Hardindr: I got it, thanks.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:26, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
@Jeff G.: Thank you for your help getting a photo up on Jason Flores-Williams's Wikipedia article. It is greatly appreciated! --Hardindr (talk) 02:04, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
@Hardindr: You're welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:11, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

User MChew

Please advise precisely what images you feel are problems so that issues can be corrected or discussed. Thanks --MChew (talk) 06:21, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done on your user talk page, where I started the conversation.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:12, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

File:Mariana (20885411540).jpg

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E4024 (talk) 07:35, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Own work

Is "own work" no more valid on Wikipedia ? What is the difference between this and that ??? FredD (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@FredD: Sorry, I didn't realize your name might be Frédéric Ducarme, you upload for like 25 other people.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

for the reverts. Artix Kreiger (talk) 11:47, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: You're welcome.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:49, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Its a shame he turns out like this. :/ Artix Kreiger (talk) 11:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
@Artix Kreiger: Indeed, I hope he can gain control of his emotions.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

"Авторские права" и лицензии!

Уважаемый когда появились у нас "Авторские права" и лицензии? Не подскажите? При СССР такого понятия вообще не существовало! Многие архивные фото из личных коллекций(архивов) давно не имеют никаких связей с давно почившими фотографами и давно не существующими фотоателье. Оформлять и платить же за авторство своих фотоматериалов будет далеко не каждый, только едениницы алчные до заработки денег в надежде на обогощение. В итоге получится, что любой пытавшийся (вроде меня) пополнить эту "свободную" электронную энциклопедию, нарвавшись на Ваши "кирпичи" и отсутствие человеческого понимания, бросит эту пустую "забаву" вообще заниматься этим. В итоге этот Ваш "проект" останется только вашим и со временем просто заглохнет на всегда. Тем более мне непонятно такое "ръяное" (считаю предвзятое) отношение именно ко мне. Я Вам обеспечиваю известность, притягиваю (к Вашему сайту) различными интересами людей и тем самым рекламирую его через общественные соцсети - и вы все это просто не цените??? Вместо того, чтобы больше привлечь сообщества, заинтересовав его исторической причастностью к событию и тем самым увеличив общественный интерес к Вашему же информационному ресурсу, Вы просто все удаляете и все своими ограничениями отталкиваете общественность вообще! Сайт без коллективных фотографий становится вообще малоинформационным, узконаправленным и малоинтересным. Просто обидно за себя потраченных своих трудов и своего личного времени. А по поводу авторства, так это так не делается как это делаете Вы. Занимайтесь тогда только с музеями и оф. источниками, которые смогут Вам офиц. доказывать все это авторство. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagun D L (talk • contribs) 07:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Lagun D L: Your opinion is welcome at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Лагун Д.П. и Лагун А.Т..jpg, not here in Russian.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Why no redirect?

Because that page never existed in the first place. I put the template twice there because it doesn't seem to take an extra argument to explain details. I don't like that page with hatemail in its history. I see you got some too, lovely, isn't it? Yours is a bit less threatening though. - Alexis Jazz 15:03, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: I have taken vandalism of my userpage as a sign I was doing a good job patrolling vandalism.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:10, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
You are a wise man. - Alexis Jazz 15:19, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: Thank you. :)   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 15:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Revision of File:고양이진.jpg

That was a temporary link, or a link that only works on your Pixabay account. I removed it. - Alexis Jazz 16:44, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: Sorry, thanks for taking care of it. BTW, can you see File:Issa2.jpg? I can't.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 17:13, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

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Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Gbawden (talk) 12:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

N'Gouja 2.jpg

We explained to FredD his mistake, he understood it. What is difficult to understand is the case of this image N'Gouja 2.jpg. It does not present any irregularity it is even signed by his name and not his pseudonym. In a spirit of conciliation it would be good to withdraw this request Thank you for your understanding. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 05:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

@Archaeodontosaurus: Sorry, I didn't realize his name might be Frédéric Ducarme, he uploads for like 25 other people. However, his insults stand.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:21, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Losing so much work so quickly is traumatic, these insults can be forgiven in this context. Many contributors would be gone. He has a very positive attitude, he started to contact the authors and he continues to contribute actively. This is a good example. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 14:45, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
@Archaeodontosaurus: That's easy for you to write, you're not @Ellin Beltz.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:54, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Jeff & Archaeodontosaurus: One of the things learned early by admins here is to attempt to ignore the insults while being fair and even with everyone. There has been no "loss" to the project because the images were here without permission. The rules (e.g. COM:L) are very simple and direct. Items not falling within these limits cannot be hosted here for free. If work is "important" then there will be no difficulty doing what it takes to make sure the licenses are correct. Usually when someone reacts in anger and lobs insults, their licenses are incorrect and it's likely that some/all of the images will have to be removed. Not because of their insults or childish behavior, but because the uploader wastes their time being insulting instead of getting to work and fixing the license issues. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 14:23, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

An apology, of sorts...

Jeff, I've known you a long time, so I feel I need to explain what I said at COM:GL/PHOTO. You have this tendency to barge into discussions you're not really a part of with comments that, at first glance to an uninvolved user, might seem authoritative, but in fact are basically unnecessary and seem to come from some sort of innate need to be "noticed" or "respected". I do wish you wouldn't do that. I know you'd love to be a sysop here so that you could add it to that bizarre "matrix" which you add to your user page everywhere, but have you ever considered that this might actually be exactly the behaviour that tends to prevent that from happening? Food for thought, perhaps - otherwise please forgive the intrusion. -- Begoon 13:40, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Begoon: I have had my project matrix for over ten years. It is there on top of my user pages for my convenience. On any of six projects, it allows me to get to many of my most-used pages in two taps or clicks. I'm sorry if you find it "bizarre", but I think yours is the first comment I've had on it. Some of my comments on this project are authoritative as an OTRS member/agent, file reviewer, file mover, and rollbacker.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:39, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
...er, yes... ok. I was trying to help, but you appear to have missed the point somewhat spectacularly. Not to worry, I said what I felt I needed to. Are you really "an OTRS member/agent, file reviewer, file mover, and rollbacker."? <sarcasm>That's dreadfully impressive.</sarcasm> (well actually, it's not impressive in any way at all, and is a direct example of what I'm talking about - see above) Nothing you do here is "authoritative", regardless of any "mall cop" permissions you might feel are somehow "relevant" in some way. -- Begoon 18:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) As far as I can tell, Jeff G. is indeed all of those things so your message seems a bit odd.
Jeff G., I have something pretty similar to what you have. (hell I'm a tps here) Your intentions are good, so are mine, but in time some people will grow to loathe you. You now probably expect some sound advice from me at this point, but I don't have any. I could say some obvious things, but this is a complicated matter. If you want help to find out how to upgrade the memory in your laptop, just ask. - Alexis Jazz 17:23, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:British Columbia Yellowhead Highway 16 3.png

Hi Jeff G. Can you take a look at the OTRS ticket discussed in Commons:Deletion requests/File:British Columbia Yellowhead Highway 16 3.png and see if it can also be applied to any of the files being discussed in en:Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 January 18#Non-free road signs used in list article? One of the non-free files being discussed in that FFD discussion (en:File:British Columbia Highway 5.svg) appears to be essentially the same as File:British Columbia Yellowhead Highway 16 3.png (the only real differences being the route number and the file format). If any of the non-free files are covered by the same ticket, then perhaps you can clarify this in the Wikipedia discussion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

  • @Marchjuly: ✓ Done.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 07:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Thank you for taking a look. However, the FFD discussion is not really a deletion discussion per se; it has more to do with whether the non-free use of those particular files in one particular article complies with Wikipedia’s non-free content use policy. Even if the consensus reached is to remove the files from that one article, the files are still being used in other articles so they will not be deleted. The reason why the OTRS ticket matters is because the files need not be licensed as non-free content if the ticket covers them as well. Freely licensed files are not subject to en:WP:NFCC and the en:WP:NFLIST issue I raised would become a moot point. If the files are really PD, Wikipedia cannot keep them as non-free per en:WP:NFCC#1, so their licensing needs to be converted. So, if you believe the files are PD, you can convert their licensing and add the OTRS permission templates since you are an OTRS volunteer; the files can then be moved to Commons. — Marchjuly (talk) 08:51, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

File:Wabash Terrain Wiki022018 Final.pdf

The link to this document on your user page is broken. You probably want to remove it or request undeletion. - Alexis Jazz 14:09, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

@Alexis Jazz: Fixed, thanks.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Notification about possible deletion

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If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Affected:

And also:

Yours sincerely, Gbawden (talk) 07:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

"Deny" edits

Hi Jeff G., may I ask why you made edits like this one? --LamBoet (talk) 03:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

@LamBoet: The perpetrator of the edit I reverted, initially known as INeverCry, is editing in violation of his community & WMF bans, blocks, & locks. I am helping to implement en:WP:DENY to deny him the fruits of his labors, in the hope that he will give up and find a more productive use for his spare time. If he made some good edits, you and other Commons users in good standing are welcome to reinstate them and I will not oppose without good reason.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:09, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I understand. Yes, I have seen a few such categorization edits that look correct, so I will reinstate them if you don't mind. --LamBoet (talk) 04:15, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
@LamBoet: Go ahead.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 04:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
As I don't remember for myself, did we come to a consensus about how to deal with evidently legitimately IncSP-nominated files? From the latest spree at least Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gate To Los Angeles (7435901294).jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by JanZiembicki are indeed very likely copyvios. --Túrelio (talk) 08:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
@Túrelio: I was bold, nominating the sock for block & lock, mass rollbacking what I could, and using "<noinclude>{{Speedy|[[COM:CSD#G3]], vandalism. DENY.}}</noinclude>" on the DRs only the sock had touched. These methods worked in the past. At least one other user got backlash in the past for not using noinclude on speedy noms on DRs, causing daily DR pages to be littered with those speedy noms. I'm sorry if I overstepped in my zeal to fight this user who has targeted me, my friends & colleagues here, and many of the pages we frequent. I'd still like to import en:WP:CSD#G5.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:35, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
You seem to have misunderstood my posting. It was an honest question, not meant as criticism. As you know, with INC the problem is that he should, of course, not given any incentive to continue his sockpupping activity. On the other hand, quite a share of his nominations is justified or at least reasonable. While I am a bit more inclined to the latter, I don't want to undermine the former. --Túrelio (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
@Túrelio: To specifically answer your question, no I don't believe we came "to a consensus about how to deal with evidently legitimately IncSP-nominated files", but I am pleased that multiple Admins have seen my bold edits and acted on them to further the denial, and no one has commented about those edits until this and the following section were started.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 01:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

DENY II

Hi Jeff,

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cloud screenshot.png ist immer noch auf COM:O gelistet. Was ist zu ändern? Nochmals vielen Dank für Deine Aufmerksamkeit. Regards Hystrix (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Seriously, I don’t think oversighters can do anything good here. Contrary, let all Wikimedia see which namely Commons functionaries protect interests of the troll. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 09:05, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
@Hystrix, Incnis Mrsi, and Túrelio: I don't see what that DR has to do with Oversight. OTOH, I understand that Oversighters have a function to fulfill. It may be that @Christian Ferrer did not see the speedy because it was outside the section. I'm sorry about that, I will improve placement of the speedy, probably on the last line. I no longer advocate deletion of that DR because Christian and Túrelio have already affected the history of it.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:51, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I can't thank you enough for your work identifying copyrighted works and hard-to-identify derivatives. I hope I'm not annoying you too much with my attempt to finally clear the Transfer-from-en-to-commons list. To save as much work as possible, I'm carefully filtering out the images by hand, one by one. Sadly, some (such as the "oil paintings") still fool me. I'm still learning and hope that the amount of warnings on my page will be seen in relation and comparison to the amont of valid images transferred during the process, and to the amount of images already not transferred preemptively.

~ ToBeFree (talk) 02:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

@ToBeFree: Thank you.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 03:04, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Russell Harvard and other photos

Why these mass cancellations? These photos are on the Flickr profile of the Huntington Theater Company, loaded with the correct Creative Commons license. What's the problem? Regards --Bart ryker (talk) 06:49, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Bart ryker: Please see Commons:Deletion requests/undefinedinsource:huntingtontheatreco.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

For a job well done

The Original Barnstar
For discovering what to me would have been an impossible connection (sculptor’s permission) between File:NewarkJustice1.jpg and File:Martin Luther King Jr. Federal Courthouse, Newark, NJ, USA.jpg and then acting on it. You have saved much more than just two images, Carptrash (talk) 16:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
@Carptrash: You're welcome. Did you take any other photos of her work which could use permission? If I were to take a photo of just that courthouse today and had a wide-angle lens, I would do it from the back of the sculpture's head, to include the entire front of the building.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 16:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
No, I am afraid not, I didn't know who she was when I visited New Jersey (2400 miles away, even more kilometers) I just took the shots. I then started using the shot and writing an article about her, got the permission to use it and then (swear to the goddess) my house was hit by lightning and I lost my computer and my correspondence with her and thousands of pictures. I really should go back and finish her article. Thanks for reminding me. Carptrash (talk) 16:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
@Carptrash: You're welcome. I'm only 16mi from there, but I don't have a good camera or a wide-angle lens. I guess you're from the West Coast.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 21:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Not quite, was New Mexico, now Arizona. I also now realize that those pictures were (are) 35mm slides from my pre-digital days. You might wish to drive by and just check it out, it is (opinion) an impressive work.Carptrash (talk) 00:09, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

I can only put it down to a new browser - could be old age tho! Appreciated --Herby talk thyme 13:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@Herbythyme: You're welcome. Nobody's perfect. I fatfinger sometimes, especially as a passenger on bumpy rides.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:37, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
Strangely I find it is something about the browser actually. The sig does not get inserted at the right place at the moment - more research needed. Best --Herby talk thyme 13:39, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Reversion at HD

Hello, Jeff G.! Just a note to say that, as you probably guessed, my rollback was a stupid misclick. Sorry to trouble you.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 05:45, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

@Odysseus1479: Thanks, nobody is perfect.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:48, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
@Odysseus1479: You may be interested in m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Rollback/Feedback round.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:22, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:AceDouble

This is my last warning, stop editing on my talkpage, you are unwelcome! — Preceding unsigned comment added by AceDouble (talk • contribs) 10:40, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

  • Signing your posts on talk pages is required and it is a Commons guideline to sign your posts on deletion requests, undeletion requests, and noticeboards. To do so, simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments. Your user name or IP address (if you are not logged in) and a timestamp will then automatically be added when you save your comment. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion). Thank you.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
@AceDouble: You seem to be under the misapprehension that you own that page. It was assigned by the Mediawiki software for communicating with you. "a user cannot avoid ... appropriate project notices and communications by merely demanding their talk page not be posted to" per WP:NOBAN. See also the rest of that page and WP:OWN.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 11:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

"DENY"

Hi, please don't tag a DR page for speedy. Ask an administrator to clean up instead. You are creating a mess. Jcb (talk) 22:42, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jcb: How would you clean up?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 22:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) By asking an administrator to clean up instead. - Captain Obvious 22:53, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: That's what the speedies are for. @Túrelio and Yann: You have been participating lately in the group attempt to DENY this particular LTA. Do you think I have been doing anything wrong?   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 02:29, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm artix ask me anything

70.21.184.216 23:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

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