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I am in the response of categorizing all my recent images. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 19:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, IliketrainsR211T!

Thanks a lot for contributing to the Wikimedia Commons! Here's a tip to make your uploads more useful: Why not add some categories to describe them? This will help more people to find and use them.

Here's how:

1) If you're using the UploadWizard, you can add categories to each file when you describe it. Just click "more options" for the file and add the categories which make sense:

2) You can also pick the file from your list of uploads, edit the file description page, and manually add the category code at the end of the page.

[[Category:Category name]]

For example, if you are uploading a diagram showing the orbits of comets, you add the following code:

[[Category:Astronomical diagrams]]

[[Category:Comets]]

This will make the diagram show up in the categories "Astronomical diagrams" and "Comets".

When picking categories, try to choose a specific category ("Astronomical diagrams") over a generic one ("Illustrations").

Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.

For examples of how to properly categorize images, please see here and here. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is your final warning. If you continue to upload images without properly categorizing them, I will block you from uploading. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All my previously uploaded images have been categorized by year and which subway system it was photographed. I will use this to categorize future images. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 20:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thus far you have added nonexistent categories (that duplicate existing categories that other users have added) and duplicate categories. This does not give me any confidence that you understand how to categorize images correctly. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:34, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What would be an example of a correct way of categorizing images? IliketrainsR211T (talk) 21:16, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I already gave you examples in my comment above. It is disappointing to see that you did not read it before replying. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:32, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to check some of my more recent images from this month to see if I am doing this correctly? If so, please check Wellington and Downtown Crossing orange line images to clarify. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 21:52, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you're trying to do, but your edits are increasingly nonsensical. Why are you adding duplicate license information, and adding categories that are already on the file page, and replacing specific categories with less specific categories? Please read Commons:Categories thoroughly before you make any more edits. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Look for the new category of images here: Category:MBTA New Rolling Stock. I am still adding images to this. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 02:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have figured out how to make my own categories now. I am coming up with titles to upload new images under these in the future. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 02:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, I am blocking you from all file and category editing. You have proceeded to make a number of absolutely unnecessary categories, most of which duplicate existing categories that are already on the files, and all but one of which have incorrectly capitalized names. None of the category edits you've made so far have been productive, and it's unclear why you are making these strange edits. Are you not able to see the categories that are already on each file page? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:31, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason: "I will promise to figure out categorizing future images I may want to upload here. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 11:23, 23 April 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

Decline reason: "As you confessed, that you need exploring what categories to put these images into, your unblock is premature. You need to understand categorizing BEFORE you are allowed to edit, not after. Taivo (talk) 08:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

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Hi, Can you explain in details what you intend to do? Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was recently blocked from uploading and editing files for "persistently refusing to categorize them", something that I did not know about in the first place. I tried to add categories to these images myself, but AI has been criticizing these categories as "nonsensical". I would like to explore what categories to put these images into when uploading future images, but I need to be unblocked in order to do this. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 1:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Request reason: "I was blocked from uploading images last month because of "persistent refusal to categorize these images", something I did not know about beforehand. In the future, I will take a closer look at the categories section when I upload new images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IliketrainsR211T (talk • contribs) 00:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)‎"[reply]

Decline reason: "You were advised "This is your final warning. If you continue to upload images without properly categorizing them, I will block you from uploading". This was not unclear, and you were aware because you responded. Your rationale that this was "something I did not know about beforehand" is thus demonstrably untrue, and is indeed a new story from your previously declined request that you attempted to blank against instructions. COM:BP asks an understanding of the issue and a credible commitment to discontinue. These are not on offer. Эlcobbola _talk 08:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

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@Elcobbola, Taivo, and Yann: Letting you know that I've blocked RidenewsubwaytrainsR211A (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) as an obvious sock. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:35, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason: "I have finally figured out how to categorize my images when uploading, so that when I do this in the future, I will be sure to make it easier for other users to find these images.IliketrainsR211T (talk) 21:57, 5 May 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

Decline reason: "Again, requests must be credible. You ignored explicit warning(s); were not truthful about having been warned; and now have been

Confirmed to have been socking with RidenewsubwaytrainsR211A. On these you've been silent. If you are unprepared to engage genuinely with your conduct, you should be prepared to remain blocked. Эlcobbola _talk 18:49, 6 May 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

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Request reason: "During recent uploads that I tried with a separate commons account (Not on Wikipedia itself), I figured out that while uploading, you could search for categories using the "Categories" blank and find ones where the image fits into. I had an "Aha!" moment at that point, because now I know that it is easier to categorize images while uploading them, not after. Additionally, I understand that the categories I attempted to create were not appropriate, because they were either copies of existing categories or did not exist themselves. In the future, I promise not to create additional sockpuppet accounts."

Unblock reason: "per discussion and recommendation from Matrix. Taivo (talk) 12:59, 18 May 2024 (UTC)"[reply]

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I'm willing to give you a chance if you can understand and apply the category system. You seem to be interested in trains, so please do the following:

Pick two random images from the Flickr page at [1] that you feel you can categorise properly if they were uploaded on Commons. Link the URLs of the images in your response.
Read Commons:Categories fully, in particular pay attention to the "Categorization tips" and "How to categorize" sections
Find and link the appropriate categories for each image with the syntax [[:Category:name of category]] in your response

If you can do so successfully, this will show some understanding of the category system, and it gives us grounds that could lead to unblock. Also, any more socking and you will remain indefinitely blocked. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 16:06, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to figure out which images in the Flickr link, if any, have been uploaded on Commons? IliketrainsR211T (talk) 23:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@IliketrainsR211T: you can check the license on the right - if it says "All rights reserved", or a Creative Commons license with "NonCommercial" or "NoDerivative" in it it's not on Commons since the license is incompatible. Even if it says a license that's compatible with Commons, I wouldn't worry about it - we're just seeing if you can use categories, not the intricacies of the Flickr licensing system. I'll assume you're not looking up images via Commons, but please don't, that defeats the point of this. Just use any image on the Flickr page I linked that you think you can categorise properly. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 19:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. [2]https://www.flickr.com/photos/billmc6212/40602492092/in/pool-mbcr/

Category:MBTA Commuter Rail

Category:MBTA in 2018

Category:MBTA Fitchburg Line

Category:Wachusett station

Category:MPI HSP46 locomotives of the MBTA

2. [3]https://www.flickr.com/photos/29997762@N05/29657033002/in/pool-mbcr/

Category:MBTA Commuter Rail

Category:MBTA in 2016

Category:MBTA Newburyport/Rockport Line

Category:Salem station IliketrainsR211T (talk) 00:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@IliketrainsR211T: This is better than once you started uploading images (i.e. not providing categories), but as Pi.1415926535 pointed out, the categories are still too broad. Read "Modularity principle" section from COM:CATPRI, and please do the same procedure with two more images of your choice from the Flickr link I provided above. Avoid broad categories like Category:MBTA Commuter Rail unless absolutely required. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 19:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Taivo, Yann, Elcobbola, and Pi.1415926535: IMO the above is, per COM:BP, is a "credible promise that the behaviour that led to the block will not be repeated" (i.e. they clearly understand categories now). The acknowledgement of the issue is in the second unblock request from the top. Think it's a good idea to give some metaphorical rope. Fine to unblock? —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 17:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They created a sock (RidenewsubwaytrainsR211A) to evade their block. Where has this been addressed? Эlcobbola _talk 17:05, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See above unblock request: "In the future, I promise not to create additional sockpuppet accounts". I think that's a good acknowledgement of the sockpuppet account and promise not to do it again. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 20:00, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Matrix: I still see a lack of understanding of category hierarchy. Two categories for the first image are too broad (Category:MBTA Commuter Rail and Category:MBTA Fitchburg Line), and the more specific Category:Fitchburg Line trains is missing. One category for the second image is too broad (Category:MBTA Newburyport/Rockport Line). This would still require cleanup by other users. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the analysis, I've asked the user to keep this in mind in the future and complete the same thing with two more images. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 20:02, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. [4]https://www.flickr.com/photos/erielimited/52581567569/in/pool-mbcr/

Category:Canton Junction station

Category:Providence/Stoughton Line trains

Category:MPI HSP46 locomotives of the MBTA

Category:MBTA in 2022

2. [5]https://www.flickr.com/photos/erielimited/51884887554/in/pool-mbcr/

Category:MBTA Commuter Rail trains at South Station (Boston)‎

Category:MBTA in 2021‎

Category:‎MPI F40PH-3C locomotives of the MBTA‎ IliketrainsR211T (talk) 20:38, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That looks correct to me. I would support an unblock with one additional reminder: to check the coordinates on your images when uploading. GPS on phones and cameras is not perfectly accurate in cities, especially underground; many of your uploads have coordinate errors of hundreds of feet or more. If the coordinates are not exactly where you were standing when you took the photo, you will need to correct or remove them. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:50, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This might be an issue of me trying to straighten out my images to the best of my ability. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 23:06, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I take back my last statement; I was not previously aware of these issues. IliketrainsR211T (talk) 23:09, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a reminder to please double-check the coordinates when you upload images. File:Ruggles MBTA Orange Line Station, May 2024.jpg has incorrect coordinates - they are on the busway, whereas the photo was clearly taken on the Orange Line platform. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These categories look better and much more specific. Also a reminder to IliketrainsR211T to not create nebulous categories like Category:New York City Subway Platform Views and to only create categories if you're sure you're following Commons:Categories#Creating_a_new_category. Pinging @Taivo and Elcobbola if they have any other concerns before unblock. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 18:17, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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