User talk:Ιγκόρ
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[edit]Если вам интересно, можете вот этот вектор довести до общего вида. File:Gerb donecka 1995.svg--Sergkarman (talk) 09:46, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Спасибо! Попробую. — Ιγκόρ (talk) 14:07, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Отличная работа! Это именно то, что я и подразумевал. Только забыл упомянуть про белые вставки. Вы можете их сделать прозрачными? Заранее благодарен. --Sergkarman (talk) 06:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Благодарю! Готово. — Ιγκόρ (talk) 13:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Отличная работа! Это именно то, что я и подразумевал. Только забыл упомянуть про белые вставки. Вы можете их сделать прозрачными? Заранее благодарен. --Sergkarman (talk) 06:23, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
Просьба
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У вас хорошо получается работать с векторами. По этому прошу еще обрезать вот этот герб. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergkarman (talk • contribs) 10:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Ну и зеленый можно заменить на более темный.
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Yann (talk) 07:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Kuban flag colors
[edit]Hey so is there a source you've got for the colors you uploaded to the Kuban flags? I feel like this should probably be uploaded to an alternate file labeled "alternate colors" or something. NorthTension (talk) 16:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hello! Those are simply Web-safe colors of raspberry, green, and blue. For some reason I keep seeing pink or purple being used. However, the Cossacks never used pink. Even in songs, it's always some lyrics about a raspberry ensign. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 16:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- All the pictures I can find online of people using the banner are using those brighter colors, is this an example of citogenesis? I always use Vexillographia as my source and they use the brighter colors, but since I can't find any contemporary sources or things made before the internet that show it; have you gotten into touch with Viktor Lomantsov, operator of Vexillographia, at all? I can do so if you haven't yet. NorthTension (talk) 16:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly. Unfortunately, sharing misleading information here has lead to some misconceptions. Thanks for the word for this, by the way. Apparently, file:Flag_of_Kuban.png is the source of this color mismatch. Years ago somebody published it and now it is all over the net. Could have been worse though: File:Bandera_dels_Cosacs_de_Kuban.svg... I've never heard of the person you mentioned. I went to that webpage and it also says raspberry, though a brighter color is used. Also, file:HeroLaborKuban.png has a quite similar color. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 17:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ah gotcha, Lomantsov and Vexillographia/Heraldicum are probably the best sources for flags and coats of arms/emblems from the former Russian Empire and Soviet Union, but I think you invariably have come across them since he's really prolific. NorthTension (talk) 18:15, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know the website, just didn't know the person behind it. Let me know the results of your research. Good luck! – Ιγκόρ (talk) 18:22, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Emailed Mr. Lomantsov cause I finally remembered, so I'll let you know if anything comes up! NorthTension (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Got a reply back from Mr. Lomantsov:
Issues with shades of colors on old flags are always controversial. In the 19th and early 20th centuries, no one bothered with describing shades according to Pantone. Real old flags or posters would help, but I don’t know about the flags of the Kuban People’s Republic preserved in museums. But I think that the crimson color of the Kuban flag should have corresponded to the crimson color commonly used in the army. The army had its own “palette” - red, light blue, dark green, crimson, etc. Some army and Cossack banners had a crimson color, and as a rule it was a similar shade on both the banners of the early 19th century and the banners of the end century - rich crimson color (the color of ripe raspberries. It was not very bright, a rather muted tone). Of your drawings, No. 1 (EN: I posted three files in the email) is closest to it. The second one is too bright, and the third one is not raspberry, but dark burgundy. Not a picture - some banners: the banner of the rifle regiments, gray. 19th century (with a crimson cross) and a Cossack Ural banner with a crimson border. I think Kuban should be similar. But all these, of course, are purely speculative conclusions... Everything may be completely wrong.
- Emailed Mr. Lomantsov cause I finally remembered, so I'll let you know if anything comes up! NorthTension (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know the website, just didn't know the person behind it. Let me know the results of your research. Good luck! – Ιγκόρ (talk) 18:22, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Ah gotcha, Lomantsov and Vexillographia/Heraldicum are probably the best sources for flags and coats of arms/emblems from the former Russian Empire and Soviet Union, but I think you invariably have come across them since he's really prolific. NorthTension (talk) 18:15, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly. Unfortunately, sharing misleading information here has lead to some misconceptions. Thanks for the word for this, by the way. Apparently, file:Flag_of_Kuban.png is the source of this color mismatch. Years ago somebody published it and now it is all over the net. Could have been worse though: File:Bandera_dels_Cosacs_de_Kuban.svg... I've never heard of the person you mentioned. I went to that webpage and it also says raspberry, though a brighter color is used. Also, file:HeroLaborKuban.png has a quite similar color. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 17:25, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- All the pictures I can find online of people using the banner are using those brighter colors, is this an example of citogenesis? I always use Vexillographia as my source and they use the brighter colors, but since I can't find any contemporary sources or things made before the internet that show it; have you gotten into touch with Viktor Lomantsov, operator of Vexillographia, at all? I can do so if you haven't yet. NorthTension (talk) 16:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
- No. 1 is the current version of the file that's uploaded to Commons; but of course keep in mind the ending of that reply. NorthTension (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hold on the previous message, I may have gotten something.NorthTension (talk) 14:13, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ended up getting final confirmation from Lomantsov, I found a "brandbook" from Krasnodar Krai with Pantone specifications that I'm going to be using for the raspberry and green, but for the blue there appears to be two correct options: the blue from the Russian flag (Pantone 286 C) and the blue listed in the brandbook (Pantone 640 U) so I'll just use the former on the regular files and upload the latter as an alternative file tomorrow. NorthTension (talk) 04:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure that it's historically accurate to use the specs of a modern polity to represent a historical flag. Anyway, I've started a conversation regarding the colors on the talk page of the flag, so more people would see it. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 06:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- It's all we've got, aside from those medals from the civil war there are no drawings nor surviving flags in existence. Modern Kuban Cossacks use the same tricolor as Krasnodar Krai as far as I can tell so unfortunately we're going to have to work backwards. NorthTension (talk) 10:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not sure that it's historically accurate to use the specs of a modern polity to represent a historical flag. Anyway, I've started a conversation regarding the colors on the talk page of the flag, so more people would see it. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 06:13, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ended up getting final confirmation from Lomantsov, I found a "brandbook" from Krasnodar Krai with Pantone specifications that I'm going to be using for the raspberry and green, but for the blue there appears to be two correct options: the blue from the Russian flag (Pantone 286 C) and the blue listed in the brandbook (Pantone 640 U) so I'll just use the former on the regular files and upload the latter as an alternative file tomorrow. NorthTension (talk) 04:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Kuban flag
[edit]Please stop adding the Kuban flag with the wrong colors Dd12467 (talk) 23:07, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
- Did you join your website just to do this? Do you have any evidence to back up Igor being wrong? NorthTension (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, @Dd12467! You may provide your evidence that those particular colors were used on the flag file's talk page. – Ιγκόρ (talk) 14:20, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
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– Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 01:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Please stop doing Original research
[edit]Hi,
I've already spoke with you about the methods you are using to "take real colors" for the flags are questionable at best and are simply false at worst:
But it seems you're not only using live pictures with uneven light and/or unknown en:White balance to "take real colors", but also started to "unify" them to Web colors! This is a really wrong method to pick colors for flags and emblems.
Here's an example:
Please take a look what are the real sources:
- https://web.archive.org/web/20220307051451/https://www.mil.gov.ua/ministry/simvolika-ta-nagorodi/
- https://ips.ligazakon.net/document/U551_06?an=350
- https://web.archive.org/web/20170805123043/https://www.president.gov.ua/documents/2092017-22298
Some of those are old, sure. You can't pick an exact color from those images.
But you can also take a look at a new Ukrainian armed Forces website:
You can pick a color from those emblems and make sure the Raspberry color you chose yourself is wrong.
- d60163 - from the UAF website https://www.zsu.gov.ua/wp-content/themes/zsu-theme-newgen/assets/img/zsu-logo.png
- 9a0030 - your color of 26 September 2023
- e0004d - your color of 3 August 2023
Please take into account an Commons:Overwriting existing files official guideline:
DO overwrite
Minor improvements
minor and uncontroversial color correction, noise reduction, perspective correction, etc.
Your changes of color are NOT uncontroversial. Your changes are very controversial. Thus, they violate an official guideline.
I will revert a file.
Please abstain from color changes based on your opinion and questionable methods instead of referring to en:WP:Reliable sources.
Thanks, VoidWanderer (talk) 12:10, 3 August 2024 (UTC)